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Disgraced Tory MP Scott Benton does a Boris Johnson and quits – politicalbetting.com

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  • That would make a good film: Macron des Sources.
    When I was a child, we used to watch that film because it had boobs in it.
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 9,948
    Leon said:


    I’m not even going to go there. Suffice to say people that believe the Elysee is hiding something are not crazy conspiracy theorists
    If only we had a recent example of a palace withholding information, but it turns out the conspiracy theories were entirely incorrect and there was an important but benign personal reason for not disclosing that information.
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    MattW said:

    I don't think ending road building was ever a proposal. Some schemes were stopped, and others were not stopped.

    I don;t see the default 20mph speed limit in urban areas being reviewed - aiui we are due another interim report soon, and I think the benefits will be too significant to prevent a reverse ferret.
    Likely so. As I’ve said many times, it’s universally 20mph around me in north London. It’s great. An improvement in so many ways. You soon get used to it.
  • DonkeysDonkeys Posts: 723
    Leon said:

    No, they do care

    If you talk to the right sort of French person they gossip about this a lot

    I have met two people that know these families from Amiens. One intimated to me that there is indeed a scandal, but wouldn’t say what, the other actually described her version of the scandal (or the shocking truth) but I won’t repeat it here because I don’t want to get banned - and nor do I want to get arrested in France
    I'm only interested in a conspiracy theory featuring Trump Boris Johnson the Spectator magazine Emmanuel Macron if it involves the Jesuits.
  • Eabhal said:

    That's the problem with evidence-based policy making.
    The minister responsible for the 20mph policy has stepped down and has been replaced with North Wales Ken Skates who has a very much more sensible attitude to the issue

    North Wales road building projects could be revisited with Mark Drakeford gone

    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-north-wales-road-building-28879680#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
  • ExiledInScotlandExiledInScotland Posts: 1,534
    edited March 2024

    And face oblivion - the one thing Reform and those mentioned cannot seem to understand is that the political gravity has moved far away from Brexit and the right and they will suffer the same fate as the dinosaurs, whilst Starmer looks at 2 if not 3 election wins
    You may well be correct. What I don't see in British politics is where do the socially conservative voters now go? The Conservatives marched left on policy and overshot the centre (most of government policy is ripped from Ed Miliband who should demand royalties). Labour are looking centrist-ish but will have to appease their activists (the private education and energy infrastructure proposals have scope for a lot of interesting unintended consequences that willl impact their marginal vote share). The Lib Dems didn't seem to enjoy power in the Coalition (when did they last mention it on the airwaves?) and seem to prefer the purity of opposition. Reform have a slightly unpleasant odour around them.

    Nobody seems to be actively offering something positive, they're just pointing fingers at each other. A cleared out Conservative party could become attractive quite quickly in opposition. But probably not.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,278
    Eabhal said:

    If only we had a recent example of a palace withholding information, but it turns out the conspiracy theories were entirely incorrect and there was an important but benign personal reason for not disclosing that information.
    Which is basically my position. I don’t believe the mad theory mme macron is a guy. I do believe there is an awkward truth being concealed which makes it more difficult to bat away the madness

    The absence of any photos of her first husband - bar the wedding photo - is really quite striking. And he died as a recluse? And no one could reach him
    for years before that? And his death was not announced for nine months (during macrons presidency)?

    Er, ok. All perfectly normal. Not
  • You may well be correct. What I don't see in British politics is where do the socially conservative voters now go? The Conservatives marched left on policy and overshot the centre (most of government policy is ripped from Ed Miliband who should demand royalties). Labour are looking centrist-ish but will have to appease their activists (the private education and energy infrastructure proposals have scope for a lot of interesting unintended consequences that willl impact their marginal vote share). The Lib Dems didn't seem to enjoy power in the Coalition (when did they last mention it on the airwaves?) and seem to prefer the purity of opposition. Reform have a slightly unpleasant odour around them.

    Nobody seems to be actively offering something positive, they're just pointing fingers at each other. A cleared out Conservative party could become attractive quite quickly in opposition. But probably not.
    A Tory Party that offered young people something on home ownership and shunned the elderly vote could foster a whole new long term coalition.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,385
    Leon said:

    Which is basically my position. I don’t believe the mad theory mme macron is a guy. I do believe there is an awkward truth being concealed which makes it more difficult to bat away the madness

    The absence of any photos of her first husband - bar the wedding photo - is really quite striking. And he died as a recluse? And no one could reach him
    for years before that? And his death was not announced for nine months (during macrons presidency)?

    Er, ok. All perfectly normal. Not
    She had three children with first hubby.
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,112
    Just spent 3 weeks in the USA and didn't hear anything about Trump the whole time I was there, except if you switched on the TV news. But I was in a very Democrat area.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 53,385
    Mum and I got our polling cards today, London Mayoral election presumably. Can't be a May election now, surely!
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 9,948

    The minister responsible for the 20mph policy has stepped down and has been replaced with North Wales Ken Skates who has a very much more sensible attitude to the issue

    North Wales road building projects could be revisited with Mark Drakeford gone

    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/major-north-wales-road-building-28879680#ICID=Android_DailyPostNewsApp_AppShare
    Setting aside the pros and cons, It's bad politics. In DfTs 2018 study, 20mph limits had 74% approval rating (net +58%) for people living in residential areas.

    Only 3% of people thought they had a negative impact on the local economy.

    So, while Tory activists knock on doors, they are likely to meet with widespread incredulity at the idea that speeds should increase in their neighbourhood.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,162
    edited March 2024
    Kate Garraway on caring for Derek Draper, and her resultant debt:

    Basic cost was 4k per month, not including therapy.

    That could help to put social care back on the agenda (where it needs to be). With Labour flying in formation with Conservatives on mayny things until the election, is this one a distinctive for LibDems to push - it's defining for Ed Davey?

    Ed Davey's wife was diagnosed with MS in 2022.

    Interesting parallel with Lee Anderson, who's wife has Cystic Fibrosis.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68656222
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 34,112
    edited March 2024
    Latest polling-based forecast for the next Canadian election.

    Con 210 seats
    Lib 63
    BQ 38
    NDP 25
    Green 2

    https://338canada.com/federal.htm
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,278

    She had three children with first hubby.
    First hubby died on Christmas Eve 2019. At 18.30pm

    He was apparently cremated on… Christmas Eve 2019

    The whole thing gets weirder and weirder

    According to some reports the affair between 15 year old Emmanuel and 40 year old brigitte auziere began at the Auziere family home. While Brigitte’s husband was there (but unknowing)

    He felt so humiliated at being cuckolded by a schoolboy he filed for divorce and never saw his wife then ex wife ever again. He avoided all social contact where he might meet her (even close family funerals)

    That’s why he became a recluse and that’s why there are no photos. That’s quite odd and that’s the semi official explanation…

    Perhaps his sudden and apparently shameful death was eventually suicide, after what Brigitte did to him. You would keep that quiet

    And these are the more grounded explanations!

  • guybrushguybrush Posts: 258
    Leon said:

    How about we all just calm down and say that anyone over the age of 18 can choose any sexual partner they like - even, yes, shudder - a professor at their own university? Who actually teaches them?

    We are free to disapprove, and very many would - but if you’re an adult you’re an adult. I’d apply this across the board

    In our worthy attempts to protect young people we have problematised all kinds of perfectly wholesome relationships at the workplace and so on. Its prudish nonsense



    For what it's worth the rather liberal admin girl from a minor London uni I was dating a couple of years ago said its still very much a perk of the job for academics. She was very open about having engaged in a bit of office hours action back in her undergrad days.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,098
    Alcan is opening a new aluminium plant to supply @Leon with foil for his hats...
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,256
    edited March 2024
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  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    Leon said:

    Probably not, but who knows. She might be genuinely in love and he might be a nice guy? He might make her happy? How can I know beforehand?

    I married a woman 30+ years younger than me and we were very very happy

    My point is the law should not get involved here and people should not be driven to suicide

    You're still denying the point of conflict with the work itself. How would you feel if some other student got a grant ot scholarship instead of your daughter because student 1 was shagging the prof on the committee? Or a first class degree? The Speccy would be all over itself to condemn the academic standards at that u.
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