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  • IME it can be people sh*tposting on a stupid 'story', egged on by a fair number of trolls. The number of people who really believe it all will be few.

    But there is a worrying amount of religiosity and ignoring science around, especially, it seems, in parts of the US. When combined with an inability to deal with the world as it is, rather than how they'd like it, it can be a dangerously heady mix.
    A lot of it is probably subsidised by the same outfit that sponsors the trolls that appear here from time to time.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,188
    Jonathan said:

    There’s some mad stuff out there. I read a story in which Liz Truss became Prime Minister
    Nah. That was Elvis in Mission Impossible style disguise.
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,513
    edited December 2023

    If you live alone or no one you live with is eligible for the Winter Fuel Payment
    You’ll get either:

    £500 if you were born between 25 September 1943 and 24 September 1957
    £600 if you were born before 25 September 1943


    https://www.gov.uk/winter-fuel-payment/how-much-youll-get
    The extra £300 the oldies are getting is part of the £900 cost of living payments:

    Eight million people on means-tested benefits, such as universal credit, were due to get £300 directly by 19 November, without the need to make a claim. It is the second of three instalments that will eventually total £900.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61592496

    Unless you get any of these benefits it can be surprising to discover how much is actually given out.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744
    Cyclefree said:

    It is worth watching the criminal lawyer, Mr Singh, be cross-examined yesterday morning about how the expert witness was not in fact an expert. It was like trying to nail jelly to a wall though Beer did a fantastic job. Even the judge got furious with Singh - who had to deny everything he wrote and said at the time because he had utterly failed to comply with any of the requirements relating to expert witnesses. It was on the back of this utterly flawed and dishonest evidence and Singh's total failure to comply with the laws governing how prosecutions should be conducted that Seema Misra, Jones should be sacked. A lot of female Guardian journalists have been busy liking and retweeting the Hinsliff article. But it's not just Jones. A lot of feminist groups here have been equally shameful. The UN Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women & Girls has been silent, refusing to say anything because there is "no solid evidence". It is the same mentality which leads to Holocaust denial. If the victim is the wrong type of the victim or the perpetrator someone you support, you have to deny. It is an attitude all too common. Sadly, women are often the victims of this. And - even more shamefully - women, often so-called feminists, perpetrate this.

    Those women's groups who do not speak up about this because the victims are Jews are utterly beyond the pale. Misogynist and anti-semitism: a disgusting combination.
    The anti-Semitic argument about October 7 has gone from

    1. Yay Israel deserved it, to
    2. The IDF did most of it, to
    3. The stuff the IDF didn’t do, didnt happen

    I’ve seen claims that Hamas fighters ACTUALLY only killed a few dozen people - all soldiers, basically

    Quite astonishing to watch an outrageous lie become a settled theory in real time

  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,674

    If it were a new wave of Covid we'd have heard about it by now and Sage wouldn't be disbanding.
    There definitely is a new wave of it, but generally non-fatal. Long Covid seems to be a significant thing too, and I know people who are annoyed how little the whole political class is paying attention to that. I know a senior executive who is highly-motivated and enjoys her job, but often struggles to even walk out of the door, a year after she had the illness.
  • twistedfirestopper3twistedfirestopper3 Posts: 2,508
    edited December 2023

    IME it can be people sh*tposting on a stupid 'story', egged on by a fair number of trolls. The number of people who really believe it all will be few.

    But there is a worrying amount of religiosity and ignoring science around, especially, it seems, in parts of the US. When combined with an inability to deal with the world as it is, rather than how they'd like it, it can be a dangerously heady mix.
    There is absolutely a lot of trolling and piss taking, but it is genuinely worrying about the fervour that I'd say the majority show in their belief. Most of the posts were in support of it. It's a genuine movement. Flat earth and anti science is scarily prevalent and feeds on the gullible.
    Even more worrying is it creeping over here.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,509

    Prediction: inside 24 months Labour will be down at 30-32% in the polls again, and the Greens riding very high. Maybe even into the high teens. The Tories will be there or thereabouts with Reform in the low teens.

    There is no money and both main parties have very exposed flanks.

    The LD poll rating after the election should be interesting. Currently nothing is getting them out of the 9 - 14% range. If however the Tories do really slump and the LDs get quite a few seats they might again become the bucket for none of the above once more. For this to happen I reckon they need a minimum of 30 seats, ideally 50 to get any momentum.
  • Leon said:

    The anti-Semitic argument about October 7 has gone from

    1. Yay Israel deserved it, to
    2. The IDF did most of it, to
    3. The stuff the IDF didn’t do, didnt happen

    I’ve seen claims that Hamas fighters ACTUALLY only killed a few dozen people - all soldiers, basically

    Quite astonishing to watch an outrageous lie become a settled theory in real time

    Except it hasn't.
  • More importantly, the permanent structures of government are up to their necks in it. Not just the politicians.

    It’s in no one’s interest to find out what happened. Well, no one who *matters*

    #NU10K
    As Ms CF regularly points out, it is a problem of Government not accepting responsibilty for the businesses it owns.

    It is not a Tory/Labour thing. It is not a Public/Private thing. It is all about sound, responsible management.

    I'd vote for anybody who could credibly offer that.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,509

    The basic Tory problem is that people have decided it's Time for a Change, and are no longer paying attention to the details. And "Does 2p off NI but frozen PA mean you're better or worse off?" comes under the heading of detail. Possibly Truss had the right idea in principle - they have to do dramatic stuff to make anyone even listen.

    Similarly, I was chatting to a politically-informed friend living alone and we were both surprised that we'd had £500 winter allowances, wasn't it £200? Turns out the Tories topped it up by £300 "cost of living allowance" and neither of us even noticed. Are we unusual? I suppose it'll disappear next year whoever is in power, unless the parties get into an annoying auction for "who can bribe voting pensioners most".

    Ditto. I got the letter a few weeks ago and then I noticed the money in my account yesterday. Not sure when it arrived. I shouldn't get it. Of course we still have the £10 Christmas bonus to arrive which in some ways is even more bonkers.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    Except it hasn't.
    Hasn’t become a settled theory? It certainly has on TwiX and TikTok

    It is contested - but there are plenty of people punting that idea
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,651
    edited December 2023

    PS It was hilarious when Sir Wyn Nice-Oldthing lost his rag with Singh! Now all we need is for the fireless Welshman to show similar testiness towards the Government which owns this shower of shite.
    There were many amusing moments. Singh asking for a pen and paper to help him with his answers was one such. And then Beer - utterly deadpan - saying to the judge "I can confirm that Mr Singh now has a pen and paper." In the tone of a man realising that he's questioning a particularly dim 4 year old.

    Singh's evidence can be summed up thus:

    "Beer took stock. Singh had been told to write an email, headed with a title he didn’t agree with dictated to him by someone he couldn’t remember, which he didn’t actually type and then sent to a distribution list of people he didn’t know.
    “Is that where we’ve got to?” asked Beer, a little incredulously."
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,674
    Meeks in iconoclastic mood:

    https://alastair-meeks.medium.com/a-series-of-unfortunate-opinions-0d6b06d7de23

    Why do people get so worked up about sktscraper architecture? If you live near a tall building you don't even notice it after a bit, and if you live/work IN it you probably get a nice view.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,011

    Grasping at straws, Starmer dangerous?
    No the Tories need to go for their own good, but mainly for ours.
    If you want incompetence and malice combined,. Gordon Brown fits the bill
    100pc
  • Cyclefree said:



    There were many amusing moments. Singh asking for a pen and paper to help him with his answers was one such. And then Beer - utterly deadpan - saying to the judge "I can confirm that Mr Singh now has a pen and paper." In the tone of a man realising that he's questioning a particularly dim 4 year old.

    Singh's evidence can be summed up thus:

    "Beer took stock. Singh had been told to write an email, headed with a title he didn’t agree with dictated to him by someone he couldn’t remember, which he didn’t actually type and then sent to a distribution list of people he didn’t know.
    “Is that where we’ve got to?” asked Beer, a little incredulously."
    Forgive me for quoting another classic...

    When Singh said he did not understand Beer's question, the Barrister replied that 'It is not possible for me to arrange the words in the sentence in a clearer way'.

    This guy is becoming a superstar.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,172
    ydoethur said:

    He's still more competent than Amanda Spielman.

    Admittedly, that's a low bar.
    So's my daughter's pet hamster.

    And he's dead.
  • Leon said:

    I cited some links last night about the evermore imminent arrival of world changing AGI

    It is going to sweep away all our economic and political norms within a decade, max, and might be impacting - hugely - within the next 3-5 years

    Don’t bother putting money in a pension. It will either be worthless or everyone will be rich anyway
    Bore off
  • AIUI there's a big issue with the amount of testing going down week-on-week, but the positivity rate going up.

    I fear the government really don't want to deal with another Covid wave, so they're ignoring the fact we've got one. It's yet another head-in-the-sand moment from Sunak.
    What would you like him to do?
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,509

    There definitely is a new wave of it, but generally non-fatal. Long Covid seems to be a significant thing too, and I know people who are annoyed how little the whole political class is paying attention to that. I know a senior executive who is highly-motivated and enjoys her job, but often struggles to even walk out of the door, a year after she had the illness.
    Yes I am aware of a lot of people who have had covid recently. All but one has only really had cold symptoms, although my brother in law has been really struggling with it. There are probably more who haven't tested. My cousin only tested because he was meeting someone vulnerable (so didn't). Both myself and my wife had cold symptoms a few weeks ago. I have no idea if we had a cold or covid. Just kept out of other people's way.
  • kjh said:

    The LD poll rating after the election should be interesting. Currently nothing is getting them out of the 9 - 14% range. If however the Tories do really slump and the LDs get quite a few seats they might again become the bucket for none of the above once more. For this to happen I reckon they need a minimum of 30 seats, ideally 50 to get any momentum.
    Sorry, but I think this is wishful thinking.

    The LDs have a place as a NOTA and a non-Tory alternative where Labour aren't competitive but are otherwise a busted flush.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793
    "As a general rule, it's a really bad idea for politicians to tell the public that horse balls are oranges."

    This is beautifully Meeks. However is it true? You'd like to think so but one of the main things that used to bug me during the tenure of Boris Johnson was how so many people failed to bust him on all the lies he told. It was like they'd established a new and higher tolerance for outrageous mendacity. It's good to see this isn't extended to Rishi Sunak. But I hope this is people genuinely wising up rather than being unduly influenced by personality, since if it's the latter it's not really a 'lesson learnt' and we'd still be potentially easy marks for the next 'high colour, low character' politician that comes along.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,651
    DavidL said:

    So's my daughter's pet hamster.

    And he's dead.
    Singh had a legal practice on the side he was carrying on while working for the Post Office. So his criminal prosecution work was probably being done off the side of the desk. Apparently the Post Office approved this arrangement.

    There is something curious about this because according to Law Society records the dates he has given the inquiry and the dates given to them don't match. Which suggests that he may have been carrying on an unregulated legal practice and/or taking money from people under false pretences. Fraud, in other words. Oh the irony .....

    Someone at the Solicitors' Regulation Authority needs to take a close look at his evidence .....
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    Bore off
    lol. I take it you’re putting money in a pension


    “We should dispense with the false idea that money is somehow relevant in an AGi future”

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1726160901999296676?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    “MIRI doesn’t do 401(k) matching, because, a spokesperson explains, they believe that AI will be “so disruptive to humanity’s future—for worse or for better—that the notion of traditional retirement planning is moot.””

    https://x.com/shorttimelines/status/1730352007633129876?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
  • bondegezoubondegezou Posts: 13,668
    Jonathan said:

    People who propagate end of the world stuff, conspiracies and fantastical stories can’t deal with the crushing brutal reality that they are not special and the times they are living in are not important.

    They make stuff up or amplify stories to create something less mundane that makes them feel like they matter or are in some way different or insightful.
    It’s fortunate that we don’t have any people who go on about end of the world stuff and fantastical stories here on PB.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100

    Sorry, but I think this is wishful thinking.

    The LDs have a place as a NOTA and a non-Tory alternative where Labour aren't competitive but are otherwise a busted flush.
    Politics is volatile. No one can predict accurately what will happen in five years time. After the 2019 election, you’d be hard pressed to predict where we are today.

    One of the myriad scenarios in the future is a Lib Dem revival. They quietly destroyed the Tories round here this year.

    It’s time to watch and listen I think.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346

    What would you like him to do?
    At the very least, increase testing. And be *slightly* more cautious. I've no idea if the government / NHS / whatever are being more vigilant, but they should be.

    I understand that we all want Covid to be over. I do, too. It was a hateful time. But the virus really doesn't care how we feel.
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,651
    Anyway despite the snow being deep and white and crisp and even, I need to go outside.

    I may be some time.
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100

    It’s fortunate that we don’t have any people who go on about end of the world stuff and fantastical stories here on PB.
    You’re referring to talk of Lib Dem revivals.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,509

    Sorry, but I think this is wishful thinking.

    The LDs have a place as a NOTA and a non-Tory alternative where Labour aren't competitive but are otherwise a busted flush.
    Well 1997, 2001, and 2005 proves that is not true.
  • What would you like him to do?
    The Tory party have blown the idea of a coherent epi/pandemic strategy out of the water. No one believes that a bit of paper/old knickers over your face is going to protect you (except the scared people still wearing pound shop paper masks out in the open air).
    We're not going to lock down again, because the country can't afford it, the Tory government didn't abide by it and so none of us fancy doing it again. Even vaccines don't seem to hold the appeal anymore.
    When the big one hits we could be in trouble.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346
    Leon said:

    Hasn’t become a settled theory? It certainly has on TwiX and TikTok

    It is contested - but there are plenty of people punting that idea
    It would be interesting to know how many people propagating those ideas (both writing tweets, and retweeting) are actually real people expressing real views, and how many are trolls - both personal trolls, and those working for others.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    Meeks in iconoclastic mood:

    https://alastair-meeks.medium.com/a-series-of-unfortunate-opinions-0d6b06d7de23

    Why do people get so worked up about sktscraper architecture? If you live near a tall building you don't even notice it after a bit, and if you live/work IN it you probably get a nice view.

    You’ve never been to see the Elgin Marbles. You’re not exactly an aesthete

    And that building in the pic in Spitalfields is HIDEOUS

    I disagree with Mr Meeks on the Orb, tho. We should build it. It will be fun and generate wealth
  • Jonathan said:

    Politics is volatile. No one can predict accurately what will happen in five years time. After the 2019 election, you’d be hard pressed to predict where we are today.

    One of the myriad scenarios in the future is a Lib Dem revival. They quietly destroyed the Tories round here this year.

    It’s time to watch and listen I think.
    if you fool around with Electoral Calculus, it's not difficult to come up with a scenario in which the LDs become the Official Opposition - and the assumptions don't have to be wildly implausible, either.
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 7,011
    Jonathan said:

    Politics is volatile. No one can predict accurately what will happen in five years time. After the 2019 election, you’d be hard pressed to predict where we are today.

    One of the myriad scenarios in the future is a Lib Dem revival. They quietly destroyed the Tories round here this year.

    It’s time to watch and listen I think.
    Give them enough rope.. they are already making unpopular decisions.
  • .

    ???

    I know a fair bit about this subject. Under Thatcher, the ECML was electrified - at the time, I believe it was the biggest construction project in Europe. BedPan (Bedford to St Pancras) was also electrified under her government. Bishop's Stortford to Cambridge occurred under her, and it was extended to King's Lynn under Major. London to Shoeburyness was electrified under Thatcher. Cross-city line in Birmingham under Major. Various local routes around Edinburgh and Leeds were also electrified under Thatcher.

    That's hundreds of miles electrified, including major routes. Between 1997 and 2010, under Blair and Brown, precisely nine miles were electrified.

    I'll praise Thatcher and Major's governments for electrifying those routes and lines, as I think it was the right thing to do. I'll criticise Sunak's government over HS2, because cancelling was the *wrong* thing.

    And I'll excoriate Blair for shouting about the WCML Upgrade (which was a failure on its own terms) and ignoring the rest of the network.

    But facts, eh?
    So lets understand why nothing was electrified shall we?
    1. Franchises were let which didn't allow for any upgrades unless stipulated
    2. The electrification teams were disbanded and equipment left to rot after privatisation. So all new people and kit would be needed for any scheme
    3. Railtrack was utterly useless at doing basic maintenance. It tried to do things like resignalling and utterly screwed it up
    4. Once Failtrack went bust, Network Rail was focused on fixing the myriad of not done infrastructure works so that people didn't get killed any more.

    Its not like Blair and Brown said "no more wires"
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    It would be interesting to know how many people propagating those ideas (both writing tweets, and retweeting) are actually real people expressing real views, and how many are trolls - both personal trolls, and those working for others.
    This guy - Max Blumenthal - 500k followers - is one of those blaming much of October 7 on the IDF

    Causing a furore

    https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/1729262572929450073?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346
    Sandpit said:

    Ah, so that’s why he’s in Dubai this week.
    Well, if I'm going to put my head in the sand, I'd quite like it to be warm sand. There's no way I'd be putting my head in the sand in Southwold today...
  • kinabalu said:

    "As a general rule, it's a really bad idea for politicians to tell the public that horse balls are oranges."

    This is beautifully Meeks. However is it true? You'd like to think so but one of the main things that used to bug me during the tenure of Boris Johnson was how so many people failed to bust him on all the lies he told. It was like they'd established a new and higher tolerance for outrageous mendacity. It's good to see this isn't extended to Rishi Sunak. But I hope this is people genuinely wising up rather than being unduly influenced by personality, since if it's the latter it's not really a 'lesson learnt' and we'd still be potentially easy marks for the next 'high colour, low character' politician that comes along.

    Boris's lies weren't really lies so much as bullshit for the most part. Calling them lies suggests Boris had a purpose in lying, or at least an intent to lie. Instead he seems not to have the capacity to distinguish what is true from what is false. Boris was unreliable even to his friends because he saw no boundary between established fact and wishful thinking. And that is why Nadine Dorries has no peerage, not because Michael Gove and Rishi Sunak plotted against her.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,207

    AIUI there's a big issue with the amount of testing going down week-on-week, but the positivity rate going up.

    I fear the government really don't want to deal with another Covid wave, so they're ignoring the fact we've got one. It's yet another head-in-the-sand moment from Sunak.
    Nah, there is covid about but while miserable is rarely making people very sick. Our Trust maintains virological surveillance and is seeing positive tests but few admissions, and those on a background of other diseases.

    What we are seeing is widespread of all the usual winter bugs and lots of admissions with those, particularly in the Children's hospital. We have no beds there again.
  • Cyclefree said:

    Singh had a legal practice on the side he was carrying on while working for the Post Office. So his criminal prosecution work was probably being done off the side of the desk. Apparently the Post Office approved this arrangement.

    There is something curious about this because according to Law Society records the dates he has given the inquiry and the dates given to them don't match. Which suggests that he may have been carrying on an unregulated legal practice and/or taking money from people under false pretences. Fraud, in other words. Oh the irony .....

    Someone at the Solicitors' Regulation Authority needs to take a close look at his evidence .....
    This bloke must have passed some Law exams at some point, Ms C. I'd always thought they must be difficult, but if a goon like Singh can get through them just how tough are they?

    Dare one suggest that Lawyers are not necessarily the high-powered super-brainy professionals they purport to be? (Present company excepted, of course.)
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,136
    Spanish flu went through four distinct phases and there was something about the climate (lots of rainfall) that meant it didn't settle down quickly, I vaguely remember.

    Thankfully, there is no ongoing change to the climate we need to worry about this time /s.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,509
    Jonathan said:

    Politics is volatile. No one can predict accurately what will happen in five years time. After the 2019 election, you’d be hard pressed to predict where we are today.

    One of the myriad scenarios in the future is a Lib Dem revival. They quietly destroyed the Tories round here this year.

    It’s time to watch and listen I think.
    Yes. None of us have a clue. I believe they are very focused in their targeting currently, particularly after last time so they might not win too many. This is correct strategy if the Tories do not crash and burn. Not the correct strategy if the Tories do.

    If they only win 20 - 30 seats they may again stay irrelevant in national politics. If they win 30+, particularly if they get around 50 or more they then become relevant once more and get media attention and become a bucket for those disaffected.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,172
    Cyclefree said:

    Anyway, 2 blistering articles about the utterly shameful silence and denial by too many human rights and feminist groups and other self-important commentators with no moral compass (yes, Owen, that means you) of the sexual violence inflicted on women and girls on 7 October.

    Grim - but essential - reading.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/whys-the-metoo-crowd-silent-on-hamas-rape-g8m5mkpf9

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/01/israel-hamas-war-rape-israelis-palestinians

    An absolute winter wonderland here now.

    Got another conviction for yet another rape yesterday (as prosecutor to prevent the usual jokes). Quite bizarre really. Out for drinks with workmates and literally dragged into the bushes and raped. I mean, WTAF? What goes through these men's heads? They are so selfish, so self interested, so uninterested in anyone else's feelings, happiness or bodily integrity. It's really quite sick.
  • Totally OT Not only is Shinzo Abe dead, his entire political faction is getting reduced to a smoking hole in the ground.
    https://www.tellerreport.com/life/2023-12-02-multiple-members-of-the-abe-faction-kickback-over-1000-million-political-fund-party.Hy7khkt_rp.html

    Amazing what can be accomplished by one man with a bit of initiative and some parts from Home Depot.
  • Leon said:

    You’ve never been to see the Elgin Marbles. You’re not exactly an aesthete

    And that building in the pic in Spitalfields is HIDEOUS

    I disagree with Mr Meeks on the Orb, tho. We should build it. It will be fun and generate wealth
    Would you want to live near it? Even if it didn't have the LED advertising thing on the outside.

    Similar problem to most skyscrapers. Nice if you're inside, possibly fun from a distance (it's pleasant to see lit up Canary Wharf from the end of my Zone 6 street) but literally a giant raised middle finger if you have to walk past it.
  • Leon said:

    lol. I take it you’re putting money in a pension


    “We should dispense with the false idea that money is somehow relevant in an AGi future”

    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1726160901999296676?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    “MIRI doesn’t do 401(k) matching, because, a spokesperson explains, they believe that AI will be “so disruptive to humanity’s future—for worse or for better—that the notion of traditional retirement planning is moot.””

    https://x.com/shorttimelines/status/1730352007633129876?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
    Is it not more likely that "MIRI doesn’t do 401(k) matching" because its owners and directors want to keep that money for themselves?
  • BarnesianBarnesian Posts: 9,078
    edited December 2023

    Sorry, but I think this is wishful thinking.

    The LDs have a place as a NOTA and a non-Tory alternative where Labour aren't competitive but are otherwise a busted flush.
    I hear that the Lib Dems are considering rebranding themselves as Dem Libs to appeal to the young.

    Dem Libs - Yo bros, future's in our hands.

    Could work.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,172
    Cyclefree said:

    Singh had a legal practice on the side he was carrying on while working for the Post Office. So his criminal prosecution work was probably being done off the side of the desk. Apparently the Post Office approved this arrangement.

    There is something curious about this because according to Law Society records the dates he has given the inquiry and the dates given to them don't match. Which suggests that he may have been carrying on an unregulated legal practice and/or taking money from people under false pretences. Fraud, in other words. Oh the irony .....

    Someone at the Solicitors' Regulation Authority needs to take a close look at his evidence .....
    That piece that was linked to last night was just shocking. The idea that he was concerned because destroying these lives was causing him upset is frankly every bit as vile as the rapists I was referring to in my last post. Once again all about the self.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744
    I think most people have seen the two minutes NYT interview when Musk tells advertisers to fuck off

    How many have watched the full hour 20 minutes?

    It ranges over a vast number of topics. He is sometimes introspective, sometimes alarmist (AGI in 3 years), sometimes wistful and dreamy

    https://x.com/simonateba/status/1730076897571221921?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    He is a genuinely remarkable man, the closest we have to a Renaissance polymath like Da Vinci. Like Da Vinci he suffers from too many ideas and not enough time or poor execution - which he admits

    I heartily recommend it. Even if you hate him or his mad cars or whatever
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,661
    kjh said:

    Yes I am aware of a lot of people who have had covid recently. All but one has only really had cold symptoms, although my brother in law has been really struggling with it. There are probably more who haven't tested. My cousin only tested because he was meeting someone vulnerable (so didn't). Both myself and my wife had cold symptoms a few weeks ago. I have no idea if we had a cold or covid. Just kept out of other people's way.
    I had something a few weeks back. The phlegminess lingered on and still hasn't fully gone away. Didn't test, but I suspect Covid.

    Meanwhile a younger colleague did test positive but only had cold symptoms for 3 or 4 days and was back out running a few days later.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346

    .

    So lets understand why nothing was electrified shall we?
    1. Franchises were let which didn't allow for any upgrades unless stipulated
    2. The electrification teams were disbanded and equipment left to rot after privatisation. So all new people and kit would be needed for any scheme
    3. Railtrack was utterly useless at doing basic maintenance. It tried to do things like resignalling and utterly screwed it up
    4. Once Failtrack went bust, Network Rail was focused on fixing the myriad of not done infrastructure works so that people didn't get killed any more.

    Its not like Blair and Brown said "no more wires"
    Privatisation occurred between 1994 and 1997. Some of those schemes were ongoing after 1994. Blair came in in 1997. The idea that 'equipment left to rot' occurred in that time is fanciful.

    Nothing was electrified because the Blair and Brown governments were uninterested in doing it. If they had been interested, it could have happened - it's not as though the WCML Upgrade did not go ahead. I also think your characterisation of Railtrack is also rather off-base - not that it was a perfect, or even good, organisation, but they weren't as bad as you make out - especially compared to BR before them.

    Blair and NL found it far easier to just shout about the potential for renationalisation as red meat for their followers, than actually do anything. And in those 13 years, the teams not only disbanded, but lost knowledge and experience, and the equipment was let go of (aside from the stuff needed for renewals and maintenance).

    I wish people would look at the reality of what happened, rather than have this brain-dead "Labour are good for the railways!" spiel. Because Labour governments are often very bad for the railways.

    Yet so is the current Conservative government. I have little idea how good or bad Starmer will be for the railways - has he talked much about them? - but I don't hold out much hope.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,492
    Cyclefree said:



    Jones should be sacked. A lot of female Guardian journalists have been busy liking and retweeting the Hinsliff article. But it's not just Jones. A lot of feminist groups here have been equally shameful. The UN Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women & Girls has been silent, refusing to say anything because there is "no solid evidence". It is the same mentality which leads to Holocaust denial. If the victim is the wrong type of the victim or the perpetrator someone you support, you have to deny. It is an attitude all too common. Sadly, women are often the victims of this. And - even more shamefully - women, often so-called feminists, perpetrate this.

    Those women's groups who do not speak up about this because the victims are Jews are utterly beyond the pale. Misogyny and anti-semitism: a disgusting combination.
    Special Rapporteurs are in the main, highly partisan, and not in any way impartial reporters on the truth.

    When you see a semi-naked woman being paraded on the back of a truck, that's pretty "solid evidence" to all but the wilfully blind.
  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,661
    DavidL said:

    Got another conviction for yet another rape yesterday (as prosecutor to prevent the usual jokes). Quite bizarre really. Out for drinks with workmates and literally dragged into the bushes and raped. I mean, WTAF? What goes through these men's heads? They are so selfish, so self interested, so uninterested in anyone else's feelings, happiness or bodily integrity. It's really quite sick.
    You're doing a grand job getting these feckers convicted. Sadly too many get away with it.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346
    Leon said:

    I think most people have seen the two minutes NYT interview when Musk tells advertisers to fuck off

    How many have watched the full hour 20 minutes?

    It ranges over a vast number of topics. He is sometimes introspective, sometimes alarmist (AGI in 3 years), sometimes wistful and dreamy

    https://x.com/simonateba/status/1730076897571221921?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    He is a genuinely remarkable man, the closest we have to a Renaissance polymath like Da Vinci. Like Da Vinci he suffers from too many ideas and not enough time or poor execution - which he admits

    I heartily recommend it. Even if you hate him or his mad cars or whatever

    He's not a Renaissance polymath.

    He's a bullshitter.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    He's not a Renaissance polymath.

    He's a bullshitter.
    Yes, dear, of course

    Watch the interview
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,172

    You're doing a grand job getting these feckers convicted. Sadly too many get away with it.
    I've had acquittals too and that can be hard to bear. But this is the most satisfying work I have ever done.
  • eekeek Posts: 29,732
    edited December 2023

    "... is notoriously not fit for purpose. "

    I've seen that argued, and I've also seen the opposite argued: that it's okay. Both by experts. But it's still orders of magnitude better than the *9* miles of line electrified in 13 years under Blair and Brown... (Kidsgrove to Crewe).

    Compare with the GWML, which seems to be overdesigned to withstand a thermonuclear weapons, and which still has dewirements and was ugly as f***.
    Best practice has changed over the years - nowadays the approach for electrification would be based what Scotland is doing as all the expertise in the UK is there and they will run out of work at some point because they will have electrified everything before we even start
  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,136

    This bloke must have passed some Law exams at some point, Ms C. I'd always thought they must be difficult, but if a goon like Singh can get through them just how tough are they?

    Dare one suggest that Lawyers are not necessarily the high-powered super-brainy professionals they purport to be? (Present company excepted, of course.)
    Again, like the IT complexity, isn't the ineptitude or malice of the prosecutor(s) rather beside the point?

    We should expect that institutions like the police/CPS/private prosecutors have some regard to ethics, and that they should be punished when they don't abide by them, but ultimately the defence against a miscarriage of justice are the judges, defence lawyers and the framework they operate within - right?

    They've had rings run round them by this guy and a software company. It's a humiliation.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793

    Boris's lies weren't really lies so much as bullshit for the most part. Calling them lies suggests Boris had a purpose in lying, or at least an intent to lie. Instead he seems not to have the capacity to distinguish what is true from what is false. Boris was unreliable even to his friends because he saw no boundary between established fact and wishful thinking. And that is why Nadine Dorries has no peerage, not because Michael Gove and Rishi Sunak plotted against her.
    Yet she doesn't blame him. Such is his spell over her. And for me that's how a chunk of the public were as regards BoJo for quite a while. They were like Nadine. Some still are going by the vox pops.
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793
    Leon said:

    I think most people have seen the two minutes NYT interview when Musk tells advertisers to fuck off

    How many have watched the full hour 20 minutes?

    It ranges over a vast number of topics. He is sometimes introspective, sometimes alarmist (AGI in 3 years), sometimes wistful and dreamy

    https://x.com/simonateba/status/1730076897571221921?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    He is a genuinely remarkable man, the closest we have to a Renaissance polymath like Da Vinci. Like Da Vinci he suffers from too many ideas and not enough time or poor execution - which he admits

    I heartily recommend it. Even if you hate him or his mad cars or whatever

    Thanks, I'll give that a listen when I get 80 minutes.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,492
    edited December 2023
    DavidL said:

    Got another conviction for yet another rape yesterday (as prosecutor to prevent the usual jokes). Quite bizarre really. Out for drinks with workmates and literally dragged into the bushes and raped. I mean, WTAF? What goes through these men's heads? They are so selfish, so self interested, so uninterested in anyone else's feelings, happiness or bodily integrity. It's really quite sick.
    A small proportion of the population are psychopaths. They either don't care what harm they inflict on others, in order to sate their appetites, or else, they positively enjoy inflicting harm. But, in a nation of 67 million, that small proportion is a lot of people, in absolute terms.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,492

    This bloke must have passed some Law exams at some point, Ms C. I'd always thought they must be difficult, but if a goon like Singh can get through them just how tough are they?

    Dare one suggest that Lawyers are not necessarily the high-powered super-brainy professionals they purport to be? (Present company excepted, of course.)
    Law exams are difficult (I've done them). But, all they test is legal ability. They don't test ethics or morals.

    High intelligence is no bar to being evil. In fact, it just enables one to be evil more effectively.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346
    edited December 2023
    Leon said:

    Yes, dear, of course

    Watch the interview
    I already have. :)

    edit: It was pretty much a waste of an hour.
  • kinabalu said:

    Yet she doesn't blame him. Such is his spell over her. And for me that's how a chunk of the public were as regards BoJo for quite a while. They were like Nadine. Some still are going by the vox pops.
    He groomed a lot of people. Or seduced if you prefer a less loaded term.
  • Sean_F said:

    Law exams are difficult (I've done them). But, all they test is legal ability. They don't test ethics or morals.

    High intelligence is no bar to being evil. In fact, it just enables one to be evil more effectively.
    But Sean, this guy is plug stupid, or appears to be.

    Sorry. Doesn't compute.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,492
    edited December 2023

    But Sean, this guy is plug stupid, or appears to be.

    Sorry. Doesn't compute.
    He's pretending to be stupid. Like Ann Coulter says things that are, on the face of it, stupid, but it's an act.

    No one who is stupid gets to edit Michigan Law Review (the Michigan Law School is one of the top three in the USA).
  • AnabobazinaAnabobazina Posts: 23,795
    malcolmg said:

    FPT
    I see Humza is getting good publicity at COP meeting




    Who is the girl pictured there? An actress?
  • Sean_F said:

    A small proportion of the population are psychopaths. They either don't care what harm they inflict on others, in order to sate their appetites, or else, they positively enjoy inflicting harm.
    Probably a large number are off their heads on booze, steroids and coke. Look at today's Mirror Exclusive (which turns out to be a preview of a Channel 4 show):-

    A gunman was filmed threatening to shoot firearms officers during a 14-hour siege sparked by the delivery of a cold chicken kebab.

    Paul Burton, 46, and Nathan Turner, 38, high on vodka and Valium, had held a delivery driver hostage after he also forgot their salad.

    Turner used Facebook Live to record the terrifying stand-off. He is heard telling police: “I ordered two kebabs. The geezer sat outside my flat for 45 minutes so I thought it was only fair, seeing as he forgot my salad and it was cold, that he would have to wait upstairs with me for an hour.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gunman-threatens-shoot-police-during-31579017

  • EabhalEabhal Posts: 10,136
    edited December 2023

    Who is the girl pictured there? An actress?
    Like Malcolm, I've been enjoying the various twitter rumours but @PBModerator should be aware given no one has been named in the press.
  • if you fool around with Electoral Calculus, it's not difficult to come up with a scenario in which the LDs become the Official Opposition - and the assumptions don't have to be wildly implausible, either.
    FPTP is utterly brutal to third placed parties with wide geographic spread. We may be heading for one of those times where the opposition party seat counts are pretty chaotic.

    Lab vs Con is one of the options on the other side of that, but Lab vs Lib (think 2010 coalition with precedence reversed) doesn't look crazy. There could be a CrefUK party to the right of that, making noise, getting votes but not really getting anywhere seatwise.

    Or maybe this is an experiment being done on us to persuade us that dictatorship by AI would be better for us poor humans.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,188

    Probably a large number are off their heads on booze, steroids and coke. Look at today's Mirror Exclusive (which turns out to be a preview of a Channel 4 show):-

    A gunman was filmed threatening to shoot firearms officers during a 14-hour siege sparked by the delivery of a cold chicken kebab.

    Paul Burton, 46, and Nathan Turner, 38, high on vodka and Valium, had held a delivery driver hostage after he also forgot their salad.

    Turner used Facebook Live to record the terrifying stand-off. He is heard telling police: “I ordered two kebabs. The geezer sat outside my flat for 45 minutes so I thought it was only fair, seeing as he forgot my salad and it was cold, that he would have to wait upstairs with me for an hour.

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/gunman-threatens-shoot-police-during-31579017

    First thought is - learn to make your own salad?
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346

    But Sean, this guy is plug stupid, or appears to be.

    Sorry. Doesn't compute.
    Someone can be very, very intelligent in one area, and utterly stupid in another. Or all other areas. In fact, I'd argue we are all like that to some degree.

    Failure to understand that can lead to all sorts of problems. For instance, I'd like to think I'm fairly intelligent, but there's no way I'd attempt to (say) write an important legal document.

    Also: IMV intelligence is correlated with, but unconnected to, memory and knowledge.
  • Cyclefree said:

    Anyway, 2 blistering articles about the utterly shameful silence and denial by too many human rights and feminist groups and other self-important commentators with no moral compass (yes, Owen, that means you) of the sexual violence inflicted on women and girls on 7 October.

    Grim - but essential - reading.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/whys-the-metoo-crowd-silent-on-hamas-rape-g8m5mkpf9

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/01/israel-hamas-war-rape-israelis-palestinians

    An absolute winter wonderland here now.

    There is an absurd silence about what Hamas did. No, worse, utter denial. Hamas can't have abducted and raped and beheaded because they are the victims.

    What has happened to the self-righteous morality that so many have spent so long refining and broadcasting? Jews - very literally - don't count. "But how dare you call us anti-semites" they say.
  • There is an absurd silence about what Hamas did. No, worse, utter denial. Hamas can't have abducted and raped and beheaded because they are the victims.

    What has happened to the self-righteous morality that so many have spent so long refining and broadcasting? Jews - very literally - don't count. "But how dare you call us anti-semites" they say.
    Am I the only PBer who read about the rapes (and murders and kidnappings) at the time, and not a month and a half later?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    I already have. :)

    edit: It was pretty much a waste of an hour.

    I already have. :)

    edit: It was pretty much a waste of an hour.
    Fair enough

    But I simply don’t understand now anyone can come away with that reaction, unless you already hate Elon so much (and many do) you are wilfully blind to his virtues (of course he has major flaws as well)

    To me he is possibly the most interesting man on the planet at the moment. I like the bit where he tells teens not to read Nietzsche and Schopenhauer

    Try Douglas Adams instead. Good advice for quite a few

    He also has a proper sense of humour hidden away in the Aspergery awkwardness (and he is a self identified Aspie)

    Also fascinating on the origins of OpenAI. Like it or not he has been a pivotal figure in three of the most important technologies of the age - SpaceX/starlink/ Tesla and EVs/AGI and OpenAI

    One of the most interesting interviews of recent years - for me
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346
    eek said:

    Best practice has changed over the years - nowadays the approach for electrification would be based what Scotland is doing as all the expertise in the UK is there and they will run out of work at some point because they will have electrified everything before we even start
    There's some truth in that. But the causes of the GWML electrification woes are quite interesting - and seem to vary according to who is talking!

    One consistent theme seems to be that NR thought they could get the job done quickly and cheaply using a High Output machine; a train that bored/dug the mast bases quickly. Sadly, it turned out to be an absolute disaster because of the ground conditions, signal cabling, etc, etc. Just a couple of unbored holes meant coming back another night, with more delays, more costs. And some nights they were leaving more than they completed.

    AIUI the same thing happened on some of the northern lines. Thankfully, the same problems don't seem to be occurring now, say on the MML.
  • Sean_F said:

    He's pretending to be stupid. Like Ann Coulter says things that are, on the face of it, stupid, but it's an act.

    No one who is stupid gets to edit Michigan Law Review (the Michigan Law School is one of the top three in the USA).
    We had the pleasure of reading some of his emails. He is semi-illiterate, as well as unpleasant, and unethical.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 38,492

    There is an absurd silence about what Hamas did. No, worse, utter denial. Hamas can't have abducted and raped and beheaded because they are the victims.

    What has happened to the self-righteous morality that so many have spent so long refining and broadcasting? Jews - very literally - don't count. "But how dare you call us anti-semites" they say.
    Rape in war is much harder to explain away than killing is. Killing of civilians can always be an accident/collateral damage/overreaction etc.

    Rape, on the other hand, is deliberately callous, and in no sense, is it an act of war.

    Hence, the need to pretend that it never happened.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346
    Leon said:

    Fair enough

    But I simply don’t understand now anyone can come away with that reaction, unless you already hate Elon so much (and many do) you are wilfully blind to his virtues (of course he has major flaws as well)

    To me he is possibly the most interesting man on the planet at the moment. I like the bit where he tells teens not to read Nietzsche and Schopenhauer

    Try Douglas Adams instead. Good advice for quite a few

    He also has a proper sense of humour hidden away in the Aspergery awkwardness (and he is a self identified Aspie)

    Also fascinating on the origins of OpenAI. Like it or not he has been a pivotal figure in three of the most important technologies of the age - SpaceX/starlink/ Tesla and EVs/AGI and OpenAI

    One of the most interesting interviews of recent years - for me
    I come away with that reaction because I spent years working in tech, know a load of techies (and am married to a brilliant one), and know sub-techie bullshit when I see it. :)
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited December 2023

    Am I the only PBer who read about the rapes (and murders and kidnappings) at the time, and not a month and a half later?
    No, but it wasn’t too long between the attacks themselves on October 7th, and the ‘spontaneous’ Western outpouring of support for the terrorists.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    I come away with that reaction because I spent years working in tech, know a load of techies (and am married to a brilliant one), and know sub-techie bullshit when I see it. :)
    Yes. Of course. Elon musk. “Sub techie”

    I suggest we leave it there
  • Andy_CookeAndy_Cooke Posts: 5,045

    COVID is with us for the long term. Like the flu. Yearly vaccinations will be a thing.
    On the plus side, the Government bought enough boosters for all over-fifties this year.
    On the minus side, it was decided that the cost of administering them (plus the expectation that they’d continue to provide them) was too high so they decided it was more cost-effective to put them in bins rather than arms.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,188
    Sandpit said:

    No, but it wasn’t too long between the attacks themselves on October 7th, and the ‘spontaneous’ Western outpouring of support for the terrorists.
    It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his world view depends on his not understanding it.
  • Sean_F said:

    Rape in war is much harder to explain away than killing is. Killing of civilians can always be an accident/collateral damage/overreaction etc.

    Rape, on the other hand, is deliberately callous, and in no sense, is it an act of war.

    Hence, the need to pretend that it never happened.
    I am not sure anyone other than the worst kind of apologists ever claimed it didn't happen. No doubt there is some fog of war and propaganda in the reporting as there always is in wartime but I believe it was widely reported at the time and is an accepted part of the narrative. As you say, sadly sexual violence is extremely common in wartime. I'm not sure it should be surprising, war is hell as Sherman said.
  • .

    Privatisation occurred between 1994 and 1997. Some of those schemes were ongoing after 1994. Blair came in in 1997. The idea that 'equipment left to rot' occurred in that time is fanciful.

    Nothing was electrified because the Blair and Brown governments were uninterested in doing it. If they had been interested, it could have happened - it's not as though the WCML Upgrade did not go ahead. I also think your characterisation of Railtrack is also rather off-base - not that it was a perfect, or even good, organisation, but they weren't as bad as you make out - especially compared to BR before them.

    Blair and NL found it far easier to just shout about the potential for renationalisation as red meat for their followers, than actually do anything. And in those 13 years, the teams not only disbanded, but lost knowledge and experience, and the equipment was let go of (aside from the stuff needed for renewals and maintenance).

    I wish people would look at the reality of what happened, rather than have this brain-dead "Labour are good for the railways!" spiel. Because Labour governments are often very bad for the railways.

    Yet so is the current Conservative government. I have little idea how good or bad Starmer will be for the railways - has he talked much about them? - but I don't hold out much hope.
    Where have I said that Labour were good for the railways? More lines closed under Labour than under the Tories.

    Let me pick at a couple of your points if I may:

    1. Equipment left to rot. Genuinely. Parked in a siding and left to rust on site. Much of the specialist kit was the same. Which meant that they had to build new teams and assemble new kit to do anything.

    2. The WCML upgrade Did Not Go Ahead. We got one phase, not the other. "Passenger Upgrade 2" was managed so badly by Railtrack that it bankrupted them and sunk the Virgin West Coast franchise whose entire business model (and payments schedule) was based on the delivery of the 140mph PUG2 scheme which was cancelled.

    3. Blair thought that scrapping the privatised system was too complex when other things had higher priority. Creating the Strategic Rail Authority was the attempt to bring some discipline to the industry and make Railtrack do its job. Having privatised the infrastructure it was no longer up to government to fund it or compel it. Blair would have needed to scrap the whole model to take control - even the SRA was toothless

    4. Railtrack presided over one of the bloodiest phases of rail disasters we have had in recent times. And the repeated crashes due to faulty infrastructure only revealed that they had no clue what state the tracks were in as hadn't actually been maintaining them. I remember a 4 hour Manchester to London journey, much at 20mph due to all the sites having to have emergency inspections.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Leon said:

    I think most people have seen the two minutes NYT interview when Musk tells advertisers to fuck off

    How many have watched the full hour 20 minutes?

    It ranges over a vast number of topics. He is sometimes introspective, sometimes alarmist (AGI in 3 years), sometimes wistful and dreamy

    https://x.com/simonateba/status/1730076897571221921?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

    He is a genuinely remarkable man, the closest we have to a Renaissance polymath like Da Vinci. Like Da Vinci he suffers from too many ideas and not enough time or poor execution - which he admits

    I heartily recommend it. Even if you hate him or his mad cars or whatever

    His latest mad car just turned up - the Cybertruck

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6WDq0V5oBg

    Looks like something out of Back to the Future, but very American in concept and not likely to be sold in Europe any time soon.
  • Someone can be very, very intelligent in one area, and utterly stupid in another. Or all other areas. In fact, I'd argue we are all like that to some degree.

    Failure to understand that can lead to all sorts of problems. For instance, I'd like to think I'm fairly intelligent, but there's no way I'd attempt to (say) write an important legal document.

    Also: IMV intelligence is correlated with, but unconnected to, memory and knowledge.
    Hence, be suspicious of Modern Renaissance Men.

    One of the reasons it sucks to be alive now is that the frontier of what's really unknown is so far out, and it takes so long to get there, and the amount of frontier that fits on the head of even someone really clever is limited.

    It's what might be interesting about LLMs. What's known by humanity, without being known by more than a handful of people, and what connections can a fast but fundamentally dumb machine spot that humanity never would?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793
    Leon said:

    Yes. Of course. Elon musk. “Sub techie”

    I suggest we leave it there
    Your crush on Elon is quite something but unlike others I'm not inclined to rib you on it. Crushes aren't something you necessarily grow out of, and they can be life enhancing. I've had plenty of my own over the years, most recently on Barry Gardiner.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744
    edited December 2023
    Sandpit said:

    His latest mad car just turned up - the Cybertruck

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6WDq0V5oBg

    Looks like something out of Back to the Future, but very American in concept and not likely to be sold in Europe any time soon.
    Have you seen the video with the Tesla “robots”?

    https://x.com/fishxcd/status/1730790918276710722?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw

  • El_CapitanoEl_Capitano Posts: 4,243

    3. Blair thought that scrapping the privatised system was too complex when other things had higher priority. Creating the Strategic Rail Authority was the attempt to bring some discipline to the industry and make Railtrack do its job. Having privatised the infrastructure it was no longer up to government to fund it or compel it. Blair would have needed to scrap the whole model to take control - even the SRA was toothless

    Generally known as the "R", because it didn't have any strategy or authority.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346

    .

    Where have I said that Labour were good for the railways? More lines closed under Labour than under the Tories.

    Let me pick at a couple of your points if I may:

    1. Equipment left to rot. Genuinely. Parked in a siding and left to rust on site. Much of the specialist kit was the same. Which meant that they had to build new teams and assemble new kit to do anything.

    2. The WCML upgrade Did Not Go Ahead. We got one phase, not the other. "Passenger Upgrade 2" was managed so badly by Railtrack that it bankrupted them and sunk the Virgin West Coast franchise whose entire business model (and payments schedule) was based on the delivery of the 140mph PUG2 scheme which was cancelled.

    3. Blair thought that scrapping the privatised system was too complex when other things had higher priority. Creating the Strategic Rail Authority was the attempt to bring some discipline to the industry and make Railtrack do its job. Having privatised the infrastructure it was no longer up to government to fund it or compel it. Blair would have needed to scrap the whole model to take control - even the SRA was toothless

    4. Railtrack presided over one of the bloodiest phases of rail disasters we have had in recent times. And the repeated crashes due to faulty infrastructure only revealed that they had no clue what state the tracks were in as hadn't actually been maintaining them. I remember a 4 hour Manchester to London journey, much at 20mph due to all the sites having to have emergency inspections.
    1. In a couple of years they deteriorated that much? How about the following thirteen?

    2. It did. From memory, the project had two main aims: to introduce 140MPH running and to put in place a new signalling system. In the end we got 125MPH running and no new signalling system. The project was years late (involving years of disruptions for passengers) and ten times over budget.

    3. He did not need to scrap the privatisation system to do enhancements. As the WCML Upgrade and some other enhancements showed.

    4. I fear that's rubbish: BR was pretty terrible for crashes, especially fatal ones.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_on_British_Rail
  • sladeslade Posts: 2,161
    kjh said:

    Ditto. I got the letter a few weeks ago and then I noticed the money in my account yesterday. Not sure when it arrived. I shouldn't get it. Of course we still have the £10 Christmas bonus to arrive which in some ways is even more bonkers.
    I got my Christmas bonus yesterday - at least that's what I think XB is.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 59,744

    Hence, be suspicious of Modern Renaissance Men.

    One of the reasons it sucks to be alive now is that the frontier of what's really unknown is so far out, and it takes so long to get there, and the amount of frontier that fits on the head of even someone really clever is limited.

    It's what might be interesting about LLMs. What's known by humanity, without being known by more than a handful of people, and what connections can a fast but fundamentally dumb machine spot that humanity never would?
    This guy is a measure of the rapidly shrinking time horizon on AGI. Gary Marcus - an academic pundit

    His idea of skepticism used to be “it will either never happen or it will take 100 years”

    Now it’s “surely it won’t happen in the next three years like Elon says” —


    “Count me as one of the skeptics! No AGI by end of 2026, mark my words.

    But I otherwise think @elonmusk’s comments @nytimes on AI safety and AI regulation have been measured and on target.”

    https://x.com/garymarcus/status/1730003151971840419?s=46&t=bulOICNH15U6kB0MwE6Lfw
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,516

    1. In a couple of years they deteriorated that much? How about the following thirteen?

    2. It did. From memory, the project had two main aims: to introduce 140MPH running and to put in place a new signalling system. In the end we got 125MPH running and no new signalling system. The project was years late (involving years of disruptions for passengers) and ten times over budget.

    3. He did not need to scrap the privatisation system to do enhancements. As the WCML Upgrade and some other enhancements showed.

    4. I fear that's rubbish: BR was pretty terrible for crashes, especially fatal ones.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_on_British_Rail
    Clapham springs to mind.

    Although nobody was killed the sheer mindless incompetence on display at Severn Tunnel was also something else. It began with the incorrect routine for fixing a signal and culminated in the emergency services being sent to the wrong end of the tunnel.

    Which of the Bob Reids spoke of the 'crumbling edge of quality' on the network due to lack of infrastructure maintenance?
  • kinabalukinabalu Posts: 44,793

    I am not sure anyone other than the worst kind of apologists ever claimed it didn't happen. No doubt there is some fog of war and propaganda in the reporting as there always is in wartime but I believe it was widely reported at the time and is an accepted part of the narrative. As you say, sadly sexual violence is extremely common in wartime. I'm not sure it should be surprising, war is hell as Sherman said.
    No I haven't seen many denying the horror of what Hamas did. Indeed it's that which partly explains the slack being extended by so many to the (by any objective measure disproportionate and indiscriminate) Israeli response. Slack which to an extent applies to me btw before anybody leaps to conclusions.

    War: I think somebody once that anybody who has a full and true appreciation of what it really entails will be a pacifist.
  • kjhkjh Posts: 12,509
    Sean_F said:

    Law exams are difficult (I've done them). But, all they test is legal ability. They don't test ethics or morals.

    High intelligence is no bar to being evil. In fact, it just enables one to be evil more effectively.
    I have mentioned before but I worked with a very clever sociopath/psychopath in the 90s. He was a salesman. It took months before I (or anyone else) was aware. It was only after I left that the full scale of the complexity and dishonesty became apparent. The manipulation was very complex. He was unlucky in that I left to set up a pressure group representing a lot of the customers of our previous employer and gradually saw inconsistencies and deduced what he was up to. I immediately shopped him to my previous employer.

    The level of detail was huge. How he could keep the multiple lies in his head was beyond me. Some schemes panned out over months.

    It always struck me that he could have done just as well if not better doing his job honestly. He worked very hard at being a crook.
  • JosiasJessopJosiasJessop Posts: 45,346
    Leon said:

    Yes. Of course. Elon musk. “Sub techie”

    I suggest we leave it there
    Think about this a little. Musk is an *evangelist*; a bit in the Steve Jobs mould. But Steve Jobs never really claimed any technical proficiency or genius; and indeed, techies like Woz and others were highly regarded by Jobs (until they became inconvenient...) Instead, Jobs' genius lay elsewhere, in product design, marketing and in getting the best out of people. The RDF and all that stuff.

    Musk claims to have the same sort of Jobs' genius, but also technical proficiency (like his "I know more about production lines than anyone alive" b/s). Yet people who have seen his code are... well, let's just say they are unimpressed.

    A company I worked for had a CEO who was a brilliant salesman; he could sell anything to anyone. The firm was in tech, but he had little knowledge of the technical side. What he was brilliant at was people, and at detecting b/s. This meant he put people he could trust, who were techies, in positions of power. If you told him a problem, he would ask for a solution(s), then take you through them from a business perspective (cost, time, risks etc). But he would expect you to tell him the reality, not hype. That was to be left to him and the marketroids.

    And woe betide you if you lied to him...
  • ThomasNasheThomasNashe Posts: 5,331

    Forgive me for quoting another classic...

    When Singh said he did not understand Beer's question, the Barrister replied that 'It is not possible for me to arrange the words in the sentence in a clearer way'.

    This guy is becoming a superstar.
    'There are no tanks in Baghdad.'
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