Andy Burnham backers please explain yourselves – politicalbetting.com

Dura_Ace said:

Mrs DA despatched me and my platoon of Ukrainian sappers to the WI hall this weekend to render a gable end and replace some flashing. I noticed two phenomena of import to political betting during my interactions with the horrid old tory coelacanths that make that building their lair.

1. They refer to the Daily Mail as "The Paper" as if no other newspaper exists. It and GB News are their exclusive source of news.

2. They love Swella and it's everybody else's fault that all of her channel schemes haven't worked.

Conclusion: Swella will win with the members. If anointed by the DM she should be the unbackable favourite. Hurrah for the blueshirts.

rcs1000 said:

Sandpit said:

Might Eddie Izzard be worth a bet?

He's in LA right now.

(Is that the right pronoun for Eddie?)

Richard_Tyndall said:

StillWaters said:

viewcode said:

Dura_Ace said:

FPT regarding CSGs...

The Ford (with CVW-8) is in the Eastern Med and the Eisenhower (with CVW-3) has just put out from Oceana, VA and so is weeks away.

Also in the Eastern Med are the Normandy, Hudney, Ramage, Carney and Roosevelt. (Guided Missile Cruiser and 4 x Guided Missile Destroyer).

Shappsie has sent RFA Argus (aviation training/PCR) but asks us all not to be embarrassed at the paucity of the contribution,

For all those of you who don't speak @DuraAce, let me translate.

The Americans have sent one big aircraft carrier and one really big aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean, along with five other ships that can launch cruise missiles to hit land and other missiles to hit planes and ships. The aircraft on the carriers can kill other planes and subs but can only drop small bombs on land. This is a fleet that can provide some support to ground troops but is better thought of as a means of enforcing air superiority and making sure no other top-tier navies stick their noses in.

The Brits have sent the Royal Navy equivalent of a hospital with a helipad. It can look after injured but that's about it. It was in the movie "World War Z" with Brad Pitt and Peter Capaldi, so there's...that. Yay, us.

We don’t need a carrier (even if we had one…) in the Eastern Med

We have Akrotiri.

A hospital ship strikes me as quite useful

The British go to save lives, the yanks go to
take them. I know which country I would rather be praising.

Taz said:

Without wishing to come over like our dear friend Leon I have a really bad feeling about the Israel conflict now.

Reports of Iran putting together a Shia militia.

https://x.com/natsecjeff/status/1713523133054111928?s=61&t=s0ae0IFncdLS1Dc7J0P_TQ

TheScreamingEagles said:

Ireland and Wales have their best ever teams and they cannot get past the quarter finals.

England's shittest team ever and we get to the semi finals at least.

Celts cannot play rugby, fact.

Penddu2 said:

My predictions for this weekend are now 0-3. I am nothing if not consistent...

StillWaters said:

Taz said:

Without wishing to come over like our dear friend Leon I have a really bad feeling about the Israel conflict now.

Reports of Iran putting together a Shia militia.

https://x.com/natsecjeff/status/1713523133054111928?s=61&t=s0ae0IFncdLS1Dc7J0P_TQ

Not the most neutral of sources mind

MarqueeMark said:

Can I suggest there has never been a better set of quarter finals in ANY sport, ever?

Penddu2 said:

My predictions for this weekend are now 0-3. I am nothing if not consistent...

Dura_Ace said:

Foxy said:

StillWaters said:

viewcode said:

Dura_Ace said:

FPT regarding CSGs...

The Ford (with CVW-8) is in the Eastern Med and the Eisenhower (with CVW-3) has just put out from Oceana, VA and so is weeks away.

Also in the Eastern Med are the Normandy, Hudney, Ramage, Carney and Roosevelt. (Guided Missile Cruiser and 4 x Guided Missile Destroyer).

Shappsie has sent RFA Argus (aviation training/PCR) but asks us all not to be embarrassed at the paucity of the contribution,

For all those of you who don't speak @DuraAce, let me translate.

The Americans have sent one big aircraft carrier and one really big aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean, along with five other ships that can launch cruise missiles to hit land and other missiles to hit planes and ships. The aircraft on the carriers can kill other planes and subs but can only drop small bombs on land. This is a fleet that can provide some support to ground troops but is better thought of as a means of enforcing air superiority and making sure no other top-tier navies stick their noses in.

The Brits have sent the Royal Navy equivalent of a hospital with a helipad. It can look after injured but that's about it. It was in the movie "World War Z" with Brad Pitt and Peter Capaldi, so there's...that. Yay, us.

We don’t need a carrier (even if we had one…) in the Eastern Med

We have Akrotiri.

A hospital ship strikes me as quite useful

Indeed it looks like someone in the MoD has engaged thinking mode. Sending a hospital ship with helipad is likely to be very astute. Great publicity to be evacuating wounded children when the IDF declares a ceasefire.

The PCR facility on Argus has to be "activated" with the embarkation of 150+ medical personnel. This has not (yet) happened.

The Argus decision will have been no more complex than what do we have afloat than we can send to the Med this weekend.

Taz said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Brook out, this has to be over.

Still need over a hundred runs. This isn't just a loss, its a humiliation and is going to trash our net run rate too.

We aren't getting out of this group stage.

Have we lost an ODI to Afghanistan before ?

MattW said:

rcs1000 said:

Sandpit said:

Might Eddie Izzard be worth a bet?

He's in LA right now.

(Is that the right pronoun for Eddie?)

Is this Los Angeles or LA LA Land?

MarqueeMark said:

Can I suggest there has never been a better set of quarter finals in ANY sport, ever?

MattW said:

Carnyx said:

Dura_Ace said:

Foxy said:

StillWaters said:

viewcode said:

Dura_Ace said:

FPT regarding CSGs...

The Ford (with CVW-8) is in the Eastern Med and the Eisenhower (with CVW-3) has just put out from Oceana, VA and so is weeks away.

Also in the Eastern Med are the Normandy, Hudney, Ramage, Carney and Roosevelt. (Guided Missile Cruiser and 4 x Guided Missile Destroyer).

Shappsie has sent RFA Argus (aviation training/PCR) but asks us all not to be embarrassed at the paucity of the contribution,

For all those of you who don't speak @DuraAce, let me translate.

The Americans have sent one big aircraft carrier and one really big aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean, along with five other ships that can launch cruise missiles to hit land and other missiles to hit planes and ships. The aircraft on the carriers can kill other planes and subs but can only drop small bombs on land. This is a fleet that can provide some support to ground troops but is better thought of as a means of enforcing air superiority and making sure no other top-tier navies stick their noses in.

The Brits have sent the Royal Navy equivalent of a hospital with a helipad. It can look after injured but that's about it. It was in the movie "World War Z" with Brad Pitt and Peter Capaldi, so there's...that. Yay, us.

We don’t need a carrier (even if we had one…) in the Eastern Med

We have Akrotiri.

A hospital ship strikes me as quite useful

Indeed it looks like someone in the MoD has engaged thinking mode. Sending a hospital ship with helipad is likely to be very astute. Great publicity to be evacuating wounded children when the IDF declares a ceasefire.

The PCR facility on Argus has to be "activated" with the embarkation of 150+ medical personnel. This has not (yet) happened.

The Argus decision will have been no more complex than what do we have afloat than we can send to the Med this weekend.

But, as you say, no helicopters anyway? So nothing for the medics to do.

Does this mean that Mr Shapps is thinking, or that his sub-Ministers have managed to keep him out of the way?

tlg86 said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

MarqueeMark said:

Can I suggest there has never been a better set of quarter finals in ANY sport, ever?

The quarter finals of the 2003-04 champions league were pretty good:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003–04_UEFA_Champions_League_knockout_stage

Thought you Arsenal fans would still be repressing that quarter final.

No, we were beaten by the better team. On the other hand, the 2008 quarter final…

TheScreamingEagles said:

tlg86 said:

MarqueeMark said:

Can I suggest there has never been a better set of quarter finals in ANY sport, ever?

The quarter finals of the 2003-04 champions league were pretty good:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003–04_UEFA_Champions_League_knockout_stage

Thought you Arsenal fans would still be repressing that quarter final.

Taz said:

Without wishing to come over like our dear friend Leon I have a really bad feeling about the Israel conflict now.

Reports of Iran putting together a Shia militia.

https://x.com/natsecjeff/status/1713523133054111928?s=61&t=s0ae0IFncdLS1Dc7J0P_TQ

Leon said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Penddu2 said:

My predictions for this weekend are now 0-3. I am nothing if not consistent...

To be fair the curse of Leondamus struck last night on Ireland.

Ahem


@TheScreamingEagles Posts: 110,794

Fiji are going to win this I fear.

5:32PM

@TheScreamingEagles said:

5:34pm

Called it.

Carnyx said:

Dura_Ace said:

Foxy said:

StillWaters said:

viewcode said:

Dura_Ace said:

FPT regarding CSGs...

The Ford (with CVW-8) is in the Eastern Med and the Eisenhower (with CVW-3) has just put out from Oceana, VA and so is weeks away.

Also in the Eastern Med are the Normandy, Hudney, Ramage, Carney and Roosevelt. (Guided Missile Cruiser and 4 x Guided Missile Destroyer).

Shappsie has sent RFA Argus (aviation training/PCR) but asks us all not to be embarrassed at the paucity of the contribution,

For all those of you who don't speak @DuraAce, let me translate.

The Americans have sent one big aircraft carrier and one really big aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean, along with five other ships that can launch cruise missiles to hit land and other missiles to hit planes and ships. The aircraft on the carriers can kill other planes and subs but can only drop small bombs on land. This is a fleet that can provide some support to ground troops but is better thought of as a means of enforcing air superiority and making sure no other top-tier navies stick their noses in.

The Brits have sent the Royal Navy equivalent of a hospital with a helipad. It can look after injured but that's about it. It was in the movie "World War Z" with Brad Pitt and Peter Capaldi, so there's...that. Yay, us.

We don’t need a carrier (even if we had one…) in the Eastern Med

We have Akrotiri.

A hospital ship strikes me as quite useful

Indeed it looks like someone in the MoD has engaged thinking mode. Sending a hospital ship with helipad is likely to be very astute. Great publicity to be evacuating wounded children when the IDF declares a ceasefire.

The PCR facility on Argus has to be "activated" with the embarkation of 150+ medical personnel. This has not (yet) happened.

The Argus decision will have been no more complex than what do we have afloat than we can send to the Med this weekend.

But, as you say, no helicopters anyway? So nothing for the medics to do.

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

Burgessian said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

So the idea is they could lose a bunch of MPs and use that as a mandate for another independence referendum. Hmm. Run that past me again. Humza.

Leon said:

Penddu2 said:

My predictions for this weekend are now 0-3. I am nothing if not consistent...

I said you were a bit rubbish at predicting these QFs and I said both northern teams will win today. So far so good

TBF I think your Welshness makes you too optimistic for Wales and too pessimistic for England, other than that you do know your rugger

Carnyx said:

Dura_Ace said:

Foxy said:

StillWaters said:

viewcode said:

Dura_Ace said:

FPT regarding CSGs...

The Ford (with CVW-8) is in the Eastern Med and the Eisenhower (with CVW-3) has just put out from Oceana, VA and so is weeks away.

Also in the Eastern Med are the Normandy, Hudney, Ramage, Carney and Roosevelt. (Guided Missile Cruiser and 4 x Guided Missile Destroyer).

Shappsie has sent RFA Argus (aviation training/PCR) but asks us all not to be embarrassed at the paucity of the contribution,

For all those of you who don't speak @DuraAce, let me translate.

The Americans have sent one big aircraft carrier and one really big aircraft carrier to the Mediterranean, along with five other ships that can launch cruise missiles to hit land and other missiles to hit planes and ships. The aircraft on the carriers can kill other planes and subs but can only drop small bombs on land. This is a fleet that can provide some support to ground troops but is better thought of as a means of enforcing air superiority and making sure no other top-tier navies stick their noses in.

The Brits have sent the Royal Navy equivalent of a hospital with a helipad. It can look after injured but that's about it. It was in the movie "World War Z" with Brad Pitt and Peter Capaldi, so there's...that. Yay, us.

We don’t need a carrier (even if we had one…) in the Eastern Med

We have Akrotiri.

A hospital ship strikes me as quite useful

Indeed it looks like someone in the MoD has engaged thinking mode. Sending a hospital ship with helipad is likely to be very astute. Great publicity to be evacuating wounded children when the IDF declares a ceasefire.

The PCR facility on Argus has to be "activated" with the embarkation of 150+ medical personnel. This has not (yet) happened.

The Argus decision will have been no more complex than what do we have afloat than we can send to the Med this weekend.

But, as you say, no helicopters anyway? So nothing for the medics to do.

Leon said:

A France-England semi will be much better for the tournament. France would have easily beaten Fiji; England could test them. France will be nervous and wary. Tho I still expect France to win

This is especially so as the other semi will be a doddle for NZ

France for the Cup

Anabobazina said:

Leon said:

A France-England semi will be much better for the tournament. France would have easily beaten Fiji; England could test them. France will be nervous and wary. Tho I still expect France to win

This is especially so as the other semi will be a doddle for NZ

France for the Cup

I’d rather play France than SA.

kle4 said:

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

So they have 43 seats now, and are the 3rd party in the Commons, with all that brings.

They think that losing a third of their seats, and that third party status, gives them a ‘mandate’ for what exactly?

It is a difficult strategy to understand.

I do think the SNP already have a moral mandate for a ref via Holyrood, and can sympathise with their frustration that has been brushed off and will continue to be so. They have a difficult choice to make about how to respond to continued blockage of their plans despite electoral success.

But simply as a rallying call for supporters it sounds a hard sell when those supporters can surely see that winning many more than 29 didn't shift the dial at Westminster. Would making it a 'demand' in that case really make much difference to Keir Starmer?

CatMan said:

This'll get the GB News crowd frothing:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-67115772

"A man accused of making racist comments at a pro-Palestine march in London has been charged, the Met Police has said.

The 67-year-old was charged with intentionally causing racially aggravated harassment, alarm or distress after being arrested on Saturday.

The man is alleged to have made racist remarks towards people gathered in Whitehall and a police officer.

He will appear at Westminster Magistrates Court on 2 November.

The Met said on X, formerly Twitter: "The man was arrested after shouting racial abuse at those gathered in Whitehall and making similar racist comments to an officer who spoke with him.

"The man was in possession of a UK flag.

"This was in no way the reason for his arrest and forms no part of the charges against him."

The force did not offer further information about what the alleged comments were."

Anabobazina said:

Leon said:

A France-England semi will be much better for the tournament. France would have easily beaten Fiji; England could test them. France will be nervous and wary. Tho I still expect France to win

This is especially so as the other semi will be a doddle for NZ

France for the Cup

I’d rather play France than SA.

Anabobazina said:

Leon said:

A France-England semi will be much better for the tournament. France would have easily beaten Fiji; England could test them. France will be nervous and wary. Tho I still expect France to win

This is especially so as the other semi will be a doddle for NZ

France for the Cup

I’d rather play France than SA.

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

On current polls they may achieve neither given the swing from SNP to Labour.

Not that Sunak or Starmer will care less what Yousaf proposed and the SNP conference decided

SandyRentool said:

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

On current polls they may achieve neither given the swing from SNP to Labour.

Not that Sunak or Starmer will care less what Yousaf proposed and the SNP conference decided

Starmer will care if he is relying on the SNP to pass legislation.

londonpubman said:

Anabobazina said:

Leon said:

A France-England semi will be much better for the tournament. France would have easily beaten Fiji; England could test them. France will be nervous and wary. Tho I still expect France to win

This is especially so as the other semi will be a doddle for NZ

France for the Cup

I’d rather play France than SA.

Yes. Not sure France have been in a final before (I could be wrong). Home pressure may get to them.

Carnyx said:

Burgessian said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

So the idea is they could lose a bunch of MPs and use that as a mandate for another independence referendum. Hmm. Run that past me again. Humza.

If they have a majority that's it. It was good enough for Mrs Thatcher, remember.

SandyRentool said:

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

On current polls they may achieve neither given the swing from SNP to Labour.

Not that Sunak or Starmer will care less what Yousaf proposed and the SNP conference decided

Starmer will care if he is relying on the SNP to pass legislation.

Cookie said:

Penddu2 said:

MarqueeMark said:

Penddu2 said:

My predictions for this weekend are now 0-3. I am nothing if not consistent...

Who are you on for tonight?

France - better get your cash on the Bokke

To rally briefly to Penddu's cause, I too am 0 out of 3 this weekend and also had France to win.

Also, if Marquee Mark is not right about this being the best set of quarter finals in any sport ever, I can't think what beats them. Superb weekend's entertainment.

CJtheOptimist said:

stodge said:

Evening all

Just a couple of thoughts on the Middle East this evening.

The atrocities perpetrated by Hamas last weekend were the epitome of barbarity, depravity and evil. We are rightly appalled and condemn them unreservedly - some of the images and symbolism verged on the biblical albeit too often repeated in more modern times.

Hamas are not stupid - far from it, they set the tone and we were still dancing to that music a week later.

They discovered and ruthlessly exploited a flaw in Israel's security and questions will need to be answered about that in time. The assualts were designed to maximise death and accentuate fear but beyond that to enhance the division between Arab and non-Arab.

Hamas's enemy isn't just Israel or the Jews - indeed, one might argue they need them to justify their own existence. No, the opposition for Hamas is moderate opinion, those within the Palestinian and Israeli communities who seek peace and reconciliation. Violence such as last Saturday's shuts down the voices of conciliation, moderation and progress and divides opinion into adversarial camps.

Let's not forget Hamas's idea of a unified Palestine isn't that of a democratic modern state but a feudalist Islamic theocracy.

Hamas would also have expected the Israeli reaction and the likely assualt by Tel Aviv's forces is the last part of the scheme - to forge a shared Palestinian memory of suffering perpetrated by Israel, supported by their allies in the West and propagate that across the Arab world. In addition, the aim is to radicalise a new generation of potential martyrs - the children orphaned as their parents are killed by Israeli missiles or tanks or the memory of having to leave a beloved home in pain.

The problem is violence is cyclical - terrorists care little for their own lives or the lives of their people. They are as nothing compared to the cause and the cause is forever.

How then do we break the cycle? I don't have any answers.

This is a great response to a question I asked this evening while discussing this vexing situation - "what is it that Hamas were hoping to get from their actions?" eternal discord and grievance - horrifying but entirely plausible.

Taz said:

kle4 said:

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

So they have 43 seats now, and are the 3rd party in the Commons, with all that brings.

They think that losing a third of their seats, and that third party status, gives them a ‘mandate’ for what exactly?

It is a difficult strategy to understand.

I do think the SNP already have a moral mandate for a ref via Holyrood, and can sympathise with their frustration that has been brushed off and will continue to be so. They have a difficult choice to make about how to respond to continued blockage of their plans despite electoral success.

But simply as a rallying call for supporters it sounds a hard sell when those supporters can surely see that winning many more than 29 didn't shift the dial at Westminster. Would making it a 'demand' in that case really make much difference to Keir Starmer?

All expectation management. Getting the faithful to keep the faith even though they are expecting to lose seats.

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

SNP delegates have backed Humza Yousaf's plan to use the next general election result to push for a second independence referendum.

An amended version of the strategy was voted through overwhelmingly at the party's annual conference in Aberdeen.

It is based on winning a majority of Scottish seats, at least 29.

This would provide a mandate to for another referendum, according to the proposals.

Under the agreed strategy, if the SNP win the majority of seats in Scotland in the next general election, it will demand the powers to hold a referendum are transferred to the Scottish Parliament.

Alternatively, the strategy said the party should consider using the 2026 Scottish Parliament election as a de facto referendum.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-67116489

On current polls they may achieve neither given the swing from SNP to Labour.

Not that Sunak or Starmer will care less what Yousaf proposed and the SNP conference decided