Most GOP voters would support Trump even if he’s convicted – politicalbetting.com

I don't know how he managed to obtain such loyalty, people trust him more than their own families or pastors, but it's real enough.

If most of your voters vote for you ... then you lose.

40% of GOP voters voting for the Democrats, or sitting at home, would provide the greatest landslide since 1984.

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Speaking of criminals, Tass reporting (as passed along via Sky) that private jet with Prigozhin onboard, was traveling FROM Moscow to St Petersburg.

Probably fell for the old 'I shall guarantee your safety' gambit, he's a modern day Jan Hus.

BartholomewRoberts said:

If most of your voters vote for you ... then you lose.

40% of GOP voters voting for the Democrats, or sitting at home, would provide the greatest landslide since 1984.

AuH2O says "Yo!"

kle4 said:

The best twist now would be for Prigozhin to pop up and reveal he suspected something was up and never got on the plane.

Or for him to be discovered 10 years later in a compound somewhere in West Africa.

FPT…

Sandpit said:

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bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

@Sandpit was celebrating the success of “The Sound of Freedom”, a film starring, associated with and heavily promoted by Jim Caviezel.

Promoting the film, Caviezel repeatedly spoke about how he is worried about “the adrenochroming of children.” That’s the QAnon conspiracy that Democrat politicians and Hollywood moguls are extracting blood from children under torture and in sacrifices to make a psychoactive drug, adrenochrome. Caviezel said: “Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body and when you are scared, you produce the adrenaline. … If a child knows he’s going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline and they have a lot of terms that they use that he takes me through but it’s the worst horror I’ve seen. It’s screaming alone. Even if I never, ever, ever saw it, it’s beyond. And these people that do it, um, there will be no mercy for them.” He’s said the issue is “greater than” the Nuremberg trials.

He's also said, “the storm is upon us”. The Storm is the moment when Donald Trump reveals that he’s been President all this time and orders mass arrests of the evil cabal of elites behind the child sex trafficking. He’s talked about "the Rothschild banks" and "a Rothschild pope" oppressing Christians. "I'm certainly not antisemitic," Caviezel told Steve Bannon in an interview. "The studios wouldn't hire me, but see they're all controlled by the central banks."

Former co-workers have described Caviezel as abusing a dog on set; not wanting to shoot a scene on a production where his character rescues a gay couple; saying interracial relationships should be banned; and saying Hitler “had the right idea” but went “too far”. Another former colleague said, “Working with Jim, is like working with a puppy… If that puppy liked Hitler”.

Err, nope. That’s far-left conspiracy theory that’s no better than far-right conspiracy theory.

What part of the above is untrue? There is video of Caviezel saying the things in the first paragraph: https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383419877881303045 The podcast with Steve Bannon is publicly available. There are multiple reports of Caviezel's behaviour.

https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383421963104788489?s=20 That's video of Caviezel "explaining" about adrenochrome. Are you saying that video is faked? Are you saying there's no QAnon adrenochrome conspiracy nonsense and Caviezel meant something else?

He’s an actor, they’re all weirdos. The clips you show are very much out of context.

Here’s an interview with Tim Ballard, the subject of the movie, who asserts that there’s an actual problem with sex trafficing from Mexico to the US. https://youtube.com/watch?v=UK3NWozQXdY

The clips aren't out of context. Provide me with the context that explains why he's talking about the "adrenochroming of children", or why he's talking about "a Rothschild pope".

How does a different person talking about something else demonstrate that it's a "far-left conspiracy theory" to say that Caviezel endorses QAnon nonsense?

Stop excusing QAnon nutters.

You’re taking about an actor. Should I not see Top Gun or Mission Impossible, because Tom Cruise is also a total religious fruitcake?

Does your post here mean you now accept that Caviezel promotes far-right conspiracy theories and that your claim that I was giving a “far-left conspiracy theory” when I said that the first time was in error?

I put it to you that “The Sound of Freedom” is not just a film that stars a fruitcake, but that a number of people involved in its production are QAnon fruitcakes and that it has been promoted by an entire patisserie of QAnon supporters.

I think you should stop offering apologia for QAnon conspiracists.

bondegezou said:

FPT…

Sandpit said:

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bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

@Sandpit was celebrating the success of “The Sound of Freedom”, a film starring, associated with and heavily promoted by Jim Caviezel.

Promoting the film, Caviezel repeatedly spoke about how he is worried about “the adrenochroming of children.” That’s the QAnon conspiracy that Democrat politicians and Hollywood moguls are extracting blood from children under torture and in sacrifices to make a psychoactive drug, adrenochrome. Caviezel said: “Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body and when you are scared, you produce the adrenaline. … If a child knows he’s going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline and they have a lot of terms that they use that he takes me through but it’s the worst horror I’ve seen. It’s screaming alone. Even if I never, ever, ever saw it, it’s beyond. And these people that do it, um, there will be no mercy for them.” He’s said the issue is “greater than” the Nuremberg trials.

He's also said, “the storm is upon us”. The Storm is the moment when Donald Trump reveals that he’s been President all this time and orders mass arrests of the evil cabal of elites behind the child sex trafficking. He’s talked about "the Rothschild banks" and "a Rothschild pope" oppressing Christians. "I'm certainly not antisemitic," Caviezel told Steve Bannon in an interview. "The studios wouldn't hire me, but see they're all controlled by the central banks."

Former co-workers have described Caviezel as abusing a dog on set; not wanting to shoot a scene on a production where his character rescues a gay couple; saying interracial relationships should be banned; and saying Hitler “had the right idea” but went “too far”. Another former colleague said, “Working with Jim, is like working with a puppy… If that puppy liked Hitler”.

Err, nope. That’s far-left conspiracy theory that’s no better than far-right conspiracy theory.

What part of the above is untrue? There is video of Caviezel saying the things in the first paragraph: https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383419877881303045 The podcast with Steve Bannon is publicly available. There are multiple reports of Caviezel's behaviour.

https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383421963104788489?s=20 That's video of Caviezel "explaining" about adrenochrome. Are you saying that video is faked? Are you saying there's no QAnon adrenochrome conspiracy nonsense and Caviezel meant something else?

He’s an actor, they’re all weirdos. The clips you show are very much out of context.

Here’s an interview with Tim Ballard, the subject of the movie, who asserts that there’s an actual problem with sex trafficing from Mexico to the US. https://youtube.com/watch?v=UK3NWozQXdY

The clips aren't out of context. Provide me with the context that explains why he's talking about the "adrenochroming of children", or why he's talking about "a Rothschild pope".

How does a different person talking about something else demonstrate that it's a "far-left conspiracy theory" to say that Caviezel endorses QAnon nonsense?

Stop excusing QAnon nutters.

You’re taking about an actor. Should I not see Top Gun or Mission Impossible, because Tom Cruise is also a total religious fruitcake?

Does your post here mean you now accept that Caviezel promotes far-right conspiracy theories and that your claim that I was giving a “far-left conspiracy theory” when I said that the first time was in error?

I put it to you that “The Sound of Freedom” is not just a film that stars a fruitcake, but that a number of people involved in its production are QAnon fruitcakes and that it has been promoted by an entire patisserie of QAnon supporters.

I think you should stop offering apologia for QAnon conspiracists.

Is Top Gun a religious fruitcake-content film?

*confused*

kle4 said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Speaking of criminals, Tass reporting (as passed along via Sky) that private jet with Prigozhin onboard, was traveling FROM Moscow to St Petersburg.

Probably fell for the old 'I shall guarantee your safety' gambit, he's a modern day Jan Hus.

I was thinking more Mafia-style. I bet you Putin phoned him up just before the bomb detonated. "So Yevgeny, just one more thing..."

bondegezou said:

FPT…

Sandpit said:

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bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

@Sandpit was celebrating the success of “The Sound of Freedom”, a film starring, associated with and heavily promoted by Jim Caviezel.

Promoting the film, Caviezel repeatedly spoke about how he is worried about “the adrenochroming of children.” That’s the QAnon conspiracy that Democrat politicians and Hollywood moguls are extracting blood from children under torture and in sacrifices to make a psychoactive drug, adrenochrome. Caviezel said: “Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body and when you are scared, you produce the adrenaline. … If a child knows he’s going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline and they have a lot of terms that they use that he takes me through but it’s the worst horror I’ve seen. It’s screaming alone. Even if I never, ever, ever saw it, it’s beyond. And these people that do it, um, there will be no mercy for them.” He’s said the issue is “greater than” the Nuremberg trials.

He's also said, “the storm is upon us”. The Storm is the moment when Donald Trump reveals that he’s been President all this time and orders mass arrests of the evil cabal of elites behind the child sex trafficking. He’s talked about "the Rothschild banks" and "a Rothschild pope" oppressing Christians. "I'm certainly not antisemitic," Caviezel told Steve Bannon in an interview. "The studios wouldn't hire me, but see they're all controlled by the central banks."

Former co-workers have described Caviezel as abusing a dog on set; not wanting to shoot a scene on a production where his character rescues a gay couple; saying interracial relationships should be banned; and saying Hitler “had the right idea” but went “too far”. Another former colleague said, “Working with Jim, is like working with a puppy… If that puppy liked Hitler”.

Err, nope. That’s far-left conspiracy theory that’s no better than far-right conspiracy theory.

What part of the above is untrue? There is video of Caviezel saying the things in the first paragraph: https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383419877881303045 The podcast with Steve Bannon is publicly available. There are multiple reports of Caviezel's behaviour.

https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383421963104788489?s=20 That's video of Caviezel "explaining" about adrenochrome. Are you saying that video is faked? Are you saying there's no QAnon adrenochrome conspiracy nonsense and Caviezel meant something else?

He’s an actor, they’re all weirdos. The clips you show are very much out of context.

Here’s an interview with Tim Ballard, the subject of the movie, who asserts that there’s an actual problem with sex trafficing from Mexico to the US. https://youtube.com/watch?v=UK3NWozQXdY

The clips aren't out of context. Provide me with the context that explains why he's talking about the "adrenochroming of children", or why he's talking about "a Rothschild pope".

How does a different person talking about something else demonstrate that it's a "far-left conspiracy theory" to say that Caviezel endorses QAnon nonsense?

Stop excusing QAnon nutters.

You’re taking about an actor. Should I not see Top Gun or Mission Impossible, because Tom Cruise is also a total religious fruitcake?

Does your post here mean you now accept that Caviezel promotes far-right conspiracy theories and that your claim that I was giving a “far-left conspiracy theory” when I said that the first time was in error?

I put it to you that “The Sound of Freedom” is not just a film that stars a fruitcake, but that a number of people involved in its production are QAnon fruitcakes and that it has been promoted by an entire patisserie of QAnon supporters.

I think you should stop offering apologia for QAnon conspiracists.

I suggest that you watch the interview with the subject of the film, that I linked above. He’s been rescuing children in Mexico and in the US, and isn’t a random conspiracy theorist. The children are real children, and the film has made $150m at the box office.

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

FPT…

Sandpit said:

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bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

@Sandpit was celebrating the success of “The Sound of Freedom”, a film starring, associated with and heavily promoted by Jim Caviezel.

Promoting the film, Caviezel repeatedly spoke about how he is worried about “the adrenochroming of children.” That’s the QAnon conspiracy that Democrat politicians and Hollywood moguls are extracting blood from children under torture and in sacrifices to make a psychoactive drug, adrenochrome. Caviezel said: “Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body and when you are scared, you produce the adrenaline. … If a child knows he’s going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline and they have a lot of terms that they use that he takes me through but it’s the worst horror I’ve seen. It’s screaming alone. Even if I never, ever, ever saw it, it’s beyond. And these people that do it, um, there will be no mercy for them.” He’s said the issue is “greater than” the Nuremberg trials.

He's also said, “the storm is upon us”. The Storm is the moment when Donald Trump reveals that he’s been President all this time and orders mass arrests of the evil cabal of elites behind the child sex trafficking. He’s talked about "the Rothschild banks" and "a Rothschild pope" oppressing Christians. "I'm certainly not antisemitic," Caviezel told Steve Bannon in an interview. "The studios wouldn't hire me, but see they're all controlled by the central banks."

Former co-workers have described Caviezel as abusing a dog on set; not wanting to shoot a scene on a production where his character rescues a gay couple; saying interracial relationships should be banned; and saying Hitler “had the right idea” but went “too far”. Another former colleague said, “Working with Jim, is like working with a puppy… If that puppy liked Hitler”.

Err, nope. That’s far-left conspiracy theory that’s no better than far-right conspiracy theory.

What part of the above is untrue? There is video of Caviezel saying the things in the first paragraph: https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383419877881303045 The podcast with Steve Bannon is publicly available. There are multiple reports of Caviezel's behaviour.

https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383421963104788489?s=20 That's video of Caviezel "explaining" about adrenochrome. Are you saying that video is faked? Are you saying there's no QAnon adrenochrome conspiracy nonsense and Caviezel meant something else?

He’s an actor, they’re all weirdos. The clips you show are very much out of context.

Here’s an interview with Tim Ballard, the subject of the movie, who asserts that there’s an actual problem with sex trafficing from Mexico to the US. https://youtube.com/watch?v=UK3NWozQXdY

The clips aren't out of context. Provide me with the context that explains why he's talking about the "adrenochroming of children", or why he's talking about "a Rothschild pope".

How does a different person talking about something else demonstrate that it's a "far-left conspiracy theory" to say that Caviezel endorses QAnon nonsense?

Stop excusing QAnon nutters.

You’re taking about an actor. Should I not see Top Gun or Mission Impossible, because Tom Cruise is also a total religious fruitcake?

Does your post here mean you now accept that Caviezel promotes far-right conspiracy theories and that your claim that I was giving a “far-left conspiracy theory” when I said that the first time was in error?

I put it to you that “The Sound of Freedom” is not just a film that stars a fruitcake, but that a number of people involved in its production are QAnon fruitcakes and that it has been promoted by an entire patisserie of QAnon supporters.

I think you should stop offering apologia for QAnon conspiracists.

I suggest that you watch the interview with the subject of the film, that I linked above. He’s been rescuing children in Mexico and in the US, and isn’t a random conspiracy theorist. The children are real children.

One of the most complicated things in life is that just because someone is a fruitcake it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are wrong.

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

If most of your voters vote for you ... then you lose.

40% of GOP voters voting for the Democrats, or sitting at home, would provide the greatest landslide since 1984.

AuH2O says "Yo!"

Oh, Goldwater. Took me a minute.

viewcode said:

So anyway, international politics

• The Republican front-runner for POTUS is on the verge of being tried for a crime.
  
• The leader of Russia just had his main rival assassinated.
  

I really don't like this Tom Clancy reboot I'm in

Been enjoying watching his Ryan series which I am just catching up on.

But yes. Things have a disappointing lack of certainty at the moment.

This is the second restaurant in a row that has missed something off my bill. I think my honesty is being tested.

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Speaking of criminals, Tass reporting (as passed along via Sky) that private jet with Prigozhin onboard, was traveling FROM Moscow to St Petersburg.

Let's hope Putin get the same treatment. If this was an assassination attempt, then he's set a precedent, hasn't he?

(A precedent was probably set with the Smolensk crash in 2010, which was rather convenient for Russia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smolensk_air_disaster

According to Flightradar24, Progizhin's jet's transponder last transponded at 28,000 feet

eek said:

According to Flightradar24, Progizhin's jet's transponder last transponded at 28,000 feet

Seems he Tvered off course.

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

eek said:

According to Flightradar24, Progizhin's jet's transponder last transponded at 28,000 feet

Seems he Tvered off course.

Southbound, towards the ground.

We are all being very naughty. When the troll turns up on Saturday and asks for names, don't tell him!

Those are bad numbers for Trump. 40% of GOP brains are not entirely fried.

Meanwhile it seems that Ukraine is claiming to have advanced 3km beyond Robotyne in about a day.

The Kremlin may be good at killing civilians and assassinating allies, but not so much at the military stuff.

Mexicanpete said:

We are all being very naughty. When the troll turns up on Saturday and asks for names, don't tell him!

I've realised what those clowns are up to. Their posts contain coded messages to sleeper agents. PB is being used as an information conduit by the FSB.

Evening all

Gorgeous evening in my part of London Town.

2/3 of the GOP vote means about 30 million and presumably the Democrat will get 40-45 million so I think we can offer the guest room to Mr Landslide and Party.

There are presumably Conservative voters, party members and activists who still think Boris Johnson should be Prime Minister and Party leader and some of the voters won't now support the Party because Boris is gone?

It's a curiousity - political parties operating in a democratic environment which aren't democratic themselves. Successful political party leaders tend to become or need to become authoritarian within their own party in order to project the united image voters seem to like so in a democracy you end up with a democratic competition between non-democratic parties.

Non-democratic as distinct from anti-democratic - parties which work within a democratic system but are dedicated to its overthrow and replacement with a dictatorship of some form.

DavidL said:

This is the second restaurant in a row that has missed something off my bill. I think my honesty is being tested.

Two working theories:

1. You were such a lovely customer, that your server decided to reward you by knocking an item off your bill, but forgot (or didn't bother) to tell you that.

2. You came across as such a cheapskate, that your server decided the only way to get you to cough up a decent tip, was by giving you a freebie to curry favor.

Nicola Sturgeon is to be stripped of her £600,000-a-year security detail over fears that it does not represent value for taxpayers, it has emerged.

In what insiders said was a highly unusual move, the former first minister kept her personal security because of fears over her safety after she left office in March.

It meant she was under police protection when other officers arrested her in June as part of an investigation into SNP finances, and raided her home in April. She has strongly denied wrongdoing.

Her husband, Peter Murrell, a former SNP chief executive, was also arrested, along with Colin Beattie, a former party treasurer. All have been released without charge pending further investigations.

Police Scotland and the Scottish Government have decided to pull the plug on Ms Sturgeon’s close protection detail following behind the scenes discussions about appropriate levels of cover and costs to the public purse.

The Scottish Sun reported that Ms Sturgeon had a team of around six officers on rotation, plus vehicles, to provide her with protection. They were kept in place after she formally stepped down on March 28, but were later scaled back and will be wound down completely this month.

It cited sources who claimed there had been a “row” and “pushback” over a decision to end the security, though this did not come from Ms Sturgeon.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/23/police-scotland-pull-nicola-sturgeons-600000-security-cover/

SandyRentool said:

Mexicanpete said:

We are all being very naughty. When the troll turns up on Saturday and asks for names, don't tell him!

I've realised what those clowns are up to. Their posts contain coded messages to sleeper agents. PB is being used as an information conduit by the FSB.

I thought it peculiar that Leon heads off on an "assignment" after they post.

SandyRentool said:

Sky now showing video linked to on previous thread of aircraft plunging to earth.

My favourite comment off Twitter:

"Wait, is this footage from the Russian lunar lander descent?"

Like much humour, a little close to the bone. But funny.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Nicola Sturgeon is to be stripped of her £600,000-a-year security detail over fears that it does not represent value for taxpayers, it has emerged.

In what insiders said was a highly unusual move, the former first minister kept her personal security because of fears over her safety after she left office in March.

It meant she was under police protection when other officers arrested her in June as part of an investigation into SNP finances, and raided her home in April. She has strongly denied wrongdoing.

Her husband, Peter Murrell, a former SNP chief executive, was also arrested, along with Colin Beattie, a former party treasurer. All have been released without charge pending further investigations.

Police Scotland and the Scottish Government have decided to pull the plug on Ms Sturgeon’s close protection detail following behind the scenes discussions about appropriate levels of cover and costs to the public purse.

The Scottish Sun reported that Ms Sturgeon had a team of around six officers on rotation, plus vehicles, to provide her with protection. They were kept in place after she formally stepped down on March 28, but were later scaled back and will be wound down completely this month.

It cited sources who claimed there had been a “row” and “pushback” over a decision to end the security, though this did not come from Ms Sturgeon.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/08/23/police-scotland-pull-nicola-sturgeons-600000-security-cover/

In the immortal words of Cato the Elder, ab Piscibus ad Piscium pellice

translation: from Big Fish to Fish Bait

williamglenn said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

If they've failed to assassinate him then it might be time for Coup Mark 2.

On the other hand, if they have assassinated him, then Wagner say:

"There are rumours about the death of the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin. We directly say that we suspect the Kremlin officials led by Putin of an attempt to kill him!

If the information about Prigozhin's death is confirmed, we will organize a second "March of Justice" on Moscow!

He'd better be alive, it's in your own interests...."

Flatlander said:

williamglenn said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

If they've failed to assassinate him then it might be time for Coup Mark 2.

On the other hand, if they have assassinated him, then Wagner say:

"There are rumours about the death of the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin. We directly say that we suspect the Kremlin officials led by Putin of an attempt to kill him!

If the information about Prigozhin's death is confirmed, we will organize a second "March of Justice" on Moscow!

He'd better be alive, it's in your own interests...."

They're mercenaries. They fight for whoever pays them.

I think it most unlikely they will try a March on Moscow again unless their wages have been transferred in advance.

Certainly not out of anything like loyalty to the Fat Controller.

Flatlander said:

williamglenn said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

If they've failed to assassinate him then it might be time for Coup Mark 2.

On the other hand, if they have assassinated him, then Wagner say:

"There are rumours about the death of the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin. We directly say that we suspect the Kremlin officials led by Putin of an attempt to kill him!

If the information about Prigozhin's death is confirmed, we will organize a second "March of Justice" on Moscow!

He'd better be alive, it's in your own interests...."

Nah, just posturing I'd bet. Feckless mercenary scum will rise up over their leadership being killed rather than just fall apart?

ydoethur said:

Flatlander said:

williamglenn said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

If they've failed to assassinate him then it might be time for Coup Mark 2.

On the other hand, if they have assassinated him, then Wagner say:

"There are rumours about the death of the head of Wagner PMC Yevgeny Prigozhin. We directly say that we suspect the Kremlin officials led by Putin of an attempt to kill him!

If the information about Prigozhin's death is confirmed, we will organize a second "March of Justice" on Moscow!

He'd better be alive, it's in your own interests...."

They're mercenaries. They fight for whoever pays them.

I think it most unlikely they will try a March on Moscow again unless their wages have been transferred in advance.

Certainly not out of anything like loyalty to the Fat Controller.

Perhaps he's stashed a few billion away in a trust fund that pays anyone who takes revenge.

ydoethur said:

Omnium said:

Did the plane crash because it became unbalanced when a passenger fell out of the window?

It was a problem with de fenster systems.

Don't windowlene on a weak gag!

Omnium said:

ydoethur said:

Omnium said:

Did the plane crash because it became unbalanced when a passenger fell out of the window?

It was a problem with de fenster systems.

Don't windowlene on a weak gag!

I suggest you take your own advice. That was so bad it caused me acute pane.

Mexicanpete said:

SandyRentool said:

Mexicanpete said:

We are all being very naughty. When the troll turns up on Saturday and asks for names, don't tell him!

I've realised what those clowns are up to. Their posts contain coded messages to sleeper agents. PB is being used as an information conduit by the FSB.

I thought it peculiar that Leon heads off on an "assignment" after they post.

Perhaps they needed a drunken sot to divert attention by taking lots of drugs and perving on younger women whilst dribbling.

"Oi! Yev-Yev-Yevgeny! You're my best mate you are!" (falls down and shits himself)

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

Apparently another Wagner plane was in the air near Moscow at the same time. Now if two planes get shot down that is going to look a little bit suspicious.

glw said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

Apparently another Wagner plane was in the air near Moscow at the same time. Now if two planes get shot down that is going to look a little bit suspicious.

If they've shot down the wrong one that's actually hilarious.

I suppose not for the people on it, but if they're Wagner mercenaries anyway my indifference will be marked.

Taz said:

Mexicanpete said:

We are all being very naughty. When the troll turns up on Saturday and asks for names, don't tell him!

Pike

I was this close...

ydoethur said:

glw said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

Apparently another Wagner plane was in the air near Moscow at the same time. Now if two planes get shot down that is going to look a little bit suspicious.

If they've shot down the wrong one that's actually hilarious.

I suppose not for the people on it, but if they're Wagner mercenaries anyway my indifference will be marked.

This is why you stick with windows. Up close, and you know you've got the right person.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

.

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

FPT…

Sandpit said:

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bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

bondegezou said:

Sandpit said:

bondegezou said:

@Sandpit was celebrating the success of “The Sound of Freedom”, a film starring, associated with and heavily promoted by Jim Caviezel.

Promoting the film, Caviezel repeatedly spoke about how he is worried about “the adrenochroming of children.” That’s the QAnon conspiracy that Democrat politicians and Hollywood moguls are extracting blood from children under torture and in sacrifices to make a psychoactive drug, adrenochrome. Caviezel said: “Essentially, you have adrenaline in your body and when you are scared, you produce the adrenaline. … If a child knows he’s going to die, his body will secrete this adrenaline and they have a lot of terms that they use that he takes me through but it’s the worst horror I’ve seen. It’s screaming alone. Even if I never, ever, ever saw it, it’s beyond. And these people that do it, um, there will be no mercy for them.” He’s said the issue is “greater than” the Nuremberg trials.

He's also said, “the storm is upon us”. The Storm is the moment when Donald Trump reveals that he’s been President all this time and orders mass arrests of the evil cabal of elites behind the child sex trafficking. He’s talked about "the Rothschild banks" and "a Rothschild pope" oppressing Christians. "I'm certainly not antisemitic," Caviezel told Steve Bannon in an interview. "The studios wouldn't hire me, but see they're all controlled by the central banks."

Former co-workers have described Caviezel as abusing a dog on set; not wanting to shoot a scene on a production where his character rescues a gay couple; saying interracial relationships should be banned; and saying Hitler “had the right idea” but went “too far”. Another former colleague said, “Working with Jim, is like working with a puppy… If that puppy liked Hitler”.

Err, nope. That’s far-left conspiracy theory that’s no better than far-right conspiracy theory.

What part of the above is untrue? There is video of Caviezel saying the things in the first paragraph: https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383419877881303045 The podcast with Steve Bannon is publicly available. There are multiple reports of Caviezel's behaviour.

https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1383421963104788489?s=20 That's video of Caviezel "explaining" about adrenochrome. Are you saying that video is faked? Are you saying there's no QAnon adrenochrome conspiracy nonsense and Caviezel meant something else?

He’s an actor, they’re all weirdos. The clips you show are very much out of context.

Here’s an interview with Tim Ballard, the subject of the movie, who asserts that there’s an actual problem with sex trafficing from Mexico to the US. https://youtube.com/watch?v=UK3NWozQXdY

The clips aren't out of context. Provide me with the context that explains why he's talking about the "adrenochroming of children", or why he's talking about "a Rothschild pope".

How does a different person talking about something else demonstrate that it's a "far-left conspiracy theory" to say that Caviezel endorses QAnon nonsense?

Stop excusing QAnon nutters.

You’re taking about an actor. Should I not see Top Gun or Mission Impossible, because Tom Cruise is also a total religious fruitcake?

Does your post here mean you now accept that Caviezel promotes far-right conspiracy theories and that your claim that I was giving a “far-left conspiracy theory” when I said that the first time was in error?

I put it to you that “The Sound of Freedom” is not just a film that stars a fruitcake, but that a number of people involved in its production are QAnon fruitcakes and that it has been promoted by an entire patisserie of QAnon supporters.

I think you should stop offering apologia for QAnon conspiracists.

I suggest that you watch the interview with the subject of the film, that I linked above. He’s been rescuing children in Mexico and in the US, and isn’t a random conspiracy theorist. The children are real children, and the film has made $150m at the box office.

How do those points counter what I’ve said? Yes, there are children who are trafficked. QAnon conspiracies impede the ability of law enforcement and society in general to tackle real sex trafficking.

You keep dancing around here. Are you going to concede that concerns about Caviezel are not a “far-left conspiracy theory”?

The BRICS need to become the BICS now.

Nobody much minds Prigozhin's departure I guess, but an exhibition of murder?

Sheer coincidence

Omnium said:

Did the plane crash because it became unbalanced when a passenger fell out of the window?

A good point. Aircrafts do depressurise and crash when passengers fall out of aircraft windows

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

1930s > legend of Anastasia (eventually starring Ingrid Bergmann)

2030s > legend of Yevgeny (hopefully starring Danny DeVito)

BartholomewRoberts said:

ydoethur said:

glw said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

Apparently another Wagner plane was in the air near Moscow at the same time. Now if two planes get shot down that is going to look a little bit suspicious.

If they've shot down the wrong one that's actually hilarious.

I suppose not for the people on it, but if they're Wagner mercenaries anyway my indifference will be marked.

This is why you stick with windows. Up close, and you know you've got the right person.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

And if it is broke, and you intend someone to fall through it, don't fix it either.

ydoethur said:

williamglenn said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

If they've failed to assassinate him then it might be time for Coup Mark 2.

If they're that useless they deserve it.

What was it Peter Cook said of Thorpe's friend? A man incapable of carrying out a simple murder plot without cocking the whole thing up.

Well Snaz Newton didn't cock the gun when he aimed it at Norman Scott

ydoethur said:

williamglenn said:

SandyRentool said:

Sky: Rumours he was on a different plane.

If they've failed to assassinate him then it might be time for Coup Mark 2.

If they're that useless they deserve it.

What was it Peter Cook said of Thorpe's friend? A man incapable of carrying out a simple murder plot without cocking the whole thing up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyos-M48B8U

The drama of the situation is getting to me, I keep expecting a broadcast to be interrupted with a 'Prigozhin Lives!' exclamation like that cutscene from Tiberian Sun.

Rule of thumb, Putin - you cannot kill the messiah.

kle4 said:

The drama of the situation is getting to me, I keep expecting a broadcast to be interrupted with a 'Prigozhin Lives!' exclamation like that cutscene from Tiberian Sun.

Rule of thumb, Putin - you cannot kill the messiah.

Putin IS the Messiah

Chris said:

I was going to suggest Prigozhin might have fallen out of a window shortly before the crash. But I see about 20 people got there first.

Does that include Putin, Medvedev and Bortnikov?