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There's a petition doing the rounds seeking an end to bookies limiting betting but not FOBTs.It might interest a few here who have been prevented from getting a decent stake on or have had accounts closed because you've backed a few winners.
https://www.change.org/p/paul-darling-chairman-association-of-british-bookmakers-we-call-on-the-chairman-of-the-abb-to-initiate-a-public-investigation-into-the-strategy-of-their-members-refusing-business-on-what-should-be-the-primary-activity-in-their-shops-betting0 -
I'm going for UKIP by pi %
They seem to want it more, and have combined momentum with steelier ground campaigning.0 -
Longest Url Evavolcanopete said:There's a petition doing the rounds seeking an end to bookies limiting betting but not FOBTs.It might interest a few here who have been prevented from getting a decent stake on or have had accounts closed because you've backed a few winners.
https://www.change.org/p/paul-darling-chairman-association-of-british-bookmakers-we-call-on-the-chairman-of-the-abb-to-initiate-a-public-investigation-into-the-strategy-of-their-members-refusing-business-on-what-should-be-the-primary-activity-in-their-shops-betting
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Interesting that many people here think UKIP will win.
That's not what the bookies think.0 -
Wait, what?volcanopete said:There's a petition doing the rounds seeking an end to bookies limiting betting but not FOBTs.It might interest a few here who have been prevented from getting a decent stake on or have had accounts closed because you've backed a few winners.
https://www.change.org/p/paul-darling-chairman-association-of-british-bookmakers-we-call-on-the-chairman-of-the-abb-to-initiate-a-public-investigation-into-the-strategy-of-their-members-refusing-business-on-what-should-be-the-primary-activity-in-their-shops-betting
A petition to max up the FOBTs????
Who said Ed M didn't have fans...
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Ukip. 3.420
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http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/south-yorkshire-police-and-crime-commissionerRichard_Nabavi said:Interesting that many people here think UKIP will win.
That's not what the bookies think.
Shadsy still top price and arbable against Hills. Hills have shortened on Labour but still must know they are arbable.
So Sidney is effectively backing UKIP and Shadsy is effectively backing Labour.0 -
Silence from Harman and the Labour sisterhood, seems that they don't bother to worry about what happens to women regardless of creed or colour.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29794729
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Normally when this sort of thing happens, Ladbrokes is on the right side of the bet. (11-2 YES springs to mind)Pulpstar said:
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/south-yorkshire-police-and-crime-commissionerRichard_Nabavi said:Interesting that many people here think UKIP will win.
That's not what the bookies think.
Shadsy still top price and arbable against Hills. Hills have shortened on Labour but still must know they are arbable.
So Sidney is effectively backing UKIP and Shadsy is effectively backing Labour.0 -
14 DEC:dr_spyn said:Harry Cole @MrHarryCole 1m1 minute ago
Scottish Labour leadership:
31 OCT:
Nominations open.
4 NOV:
Nominations officially close.
17 NOV:
Voting.
13 DEC:
New leader elected.
Ed's people piss off new leader
15 DEC:
New leader resigns amidst bitter recriminations
16 DEC:
New leadership - nominations open.....
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That a bout a closa to 800/1MarqueeMark said:
14 DEC:dr_spyn said:Harry Cole @MrHarryCole 1m1 minute ago
Scottish Labour leadership:
31 OCT:
Nominations open.
4 NOV:
Nominations officially close.
17 NOV:
Voting.
13 DEC:
New leader elected.
Ed's people piss off new leader
15 DEC:
New leader resigns amidst bitter recriminations
16 DEC:
New leadership - nominations open.....
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I'll be hoisting the red flag if they elect Neil Findlay.MarqueeMark said:
14 DEC:dr_spyn said:Harry Cole @MrHarryCole 1m1 minute ago
Scottish Labour leadership:
31 OCT:
Nominations open.
4 NOV:
Nominations officially close.
17 NOV:
Voting.
13 DEC:
New leader elected.
Ed's people piss off new leader
15 DEC:
New leader resigns amidst bitter recriminations
16 DEC:
New leadership - nominations open.....0 -
Romania game
For anyone that would like to play, the game is here:
http://www.electiongame.co.uk/romania/
Entries close 12 noon Sunday and the US Midterms game will be out next - game includes opinion poll links.
Many thanks,
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UKIP by 102 votes0
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Interesting discussion with recent graduate grandchildren this afternoon. Some of their friends are considering voting LibDem, due to recent emphasis on mental health issues.
Grandchildren are, of course, tribal LibDems.0 -
I'd like to play but, like Brazil, I don't know anything about politics in the country.DoubleCarpet said:Romania game
For anyone that would like to play, the game is here:
http://www.electiongame.co.uk/romania/
Entries close 12 noon Sunday and the US Midterms game will be out next - game includes opinion poll links.
Many thanks,
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25% of Students in Edinburgh go private (SBBC, guess the time)0
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@Morris_Dancer
"Certain game franchises are bloody enormous."
Expect the new Elite to be up there with the biggest. They are charging £50 to join the Beta.0 -
PCC by-election prediction
UKIP over Labour by a margin of 7.21%
The result will depend on who can Get Out the Vote with a turnout below 20%, so hard to predict.0 -
Yay!!! Willie Miller at Ibrox
Team casio in your Tvs0 -
I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too
I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.
And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and SaundersPlato said:
The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, but what about Help?
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Mr. K,MikeK said:UKIP by 102 votes
Glad to see you are still with us. I hope the dreaded 'flu is passing and you are feeling better.
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Even Gordon Brown managed small increases in a couple of byelections (Glenrothes and Glasgow North East)Sunil_Prasannan said:
Newark was the only Tory by-election victory this Parliament. Also interesting that Tory vote-share has decreased in every GB mainland by-election this Parliament.0 -
I did not know that! I'm bloody gutted I don't have my characters name on the monument they have built in Reykjavik, I cancelled my sub a few months previous.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. D, I believe EVE is Iceland's third largest export.
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I'm loathe to engage with you before the football Plato. But the Beatles liked Buddy as well. There's a cover on Anthology 1Plato said:I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too
I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.
And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and SaundersPlato said:
The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, but what about Help?
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Its amazing really. I tried it when it was first released and found it mind-numbingly boring. That it has become such a vast business is stunning (and possibly a little scary).RobD said:
I did not know that! I'm bloody gutted I don't have my characters name on the monument they have built in Reykjavik, I cancelled my sub a few months previous.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. D, I believe EVE is Iceland's third largest export.
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I read a quite convincing study that found our teenage musical tastes to be significant.
Until we reach about 14yrs old - we adopt the tastes of our parents or other authority figures. Then we self-define and those views culturally stick with us forever. I thought there was a lot of sense here. I've adopted my older brothers' tastes and my mother's a lot. Yet have my own added on which fit neither.
I still hate what I hate no matter who liked it.NickPalmer said:
Yes, 'tis a matter of taste. I remember Our Mutal Friend as being pretty good, like a whole string of classics production in those days (not least the original and unbeatable Forsyte Saga, but also Vanity Fair and several others) and I liked Emmerdale Farm before it dropped the Farm and went a bit tabloid.Flightpath said:
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Thats a big improvement on the current BBC offerings
As with music, I think people tend to like what they grew up with. Nowadays, I don't have a TV (no time really) and just catch up with the occasional thing on iPlayer.0 -
I get the impression that MI6 will shoot me if I can't source this-
Rangers 1.93
St Johnstone 4.50 -
Wasn't that my point. Beatles covered Buddy?
Blondie did Cochran as post-punk with One Way Or Another.JBriskin said:
I'm loathe to engage with you before the football Plato. But the Beatles liked Buddy as well. There's a cover on Anthology 1Plato said:I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too
I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.
And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and SaundersPlato said:
The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, but what about Help?
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Err, No.Plato said:Wasn't that my point. Beatles covered Buddy?
Blondie did Cochran as post-punk with One Way Or Another.JBriskin said:
I'm loathe to engage with you before the football Plato. But the Beatles liked Buddy as well. There's a cover on Anthology 1Plato said:I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too
I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.
And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.Sunil_Prasannan said:
I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and SaundersPlato said:
The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.Morris_Dancer said:Miss Plato, but what about Help?
My point was that the Beatles covered Buddy and it's available on Anthology 1
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League of Legends is the highest grossing game at the moment I believe.
I don't play it.0 -
I still play Eve and it is still a time sink but what other game gets you phone calls at 4am when an emergency fleet scramble is neededRobD said:
I used to play EVE Online... but my god is that game a time sink.murali_s said:
Yep, the new expansion was the draw for me to come back.Pulpstar said:
New expansion coming soon.murali_s said:
Original Elite was a classic! Many a ruined weekend!!state_go_away said:
probably but I don't want to play it . Might ruin the memory!!! Ready for docking!!Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Away, isn't there a new Elite game out?
After a three year gap, I've gone back to playing WoW. Now, need to drug the wife and somehow cope with 3 hours sleep every night.
Yes, I am sad....
You could apply to my guild www.final-evolution.com ^_~
Seems like an interesting guild but will only be a social player for now - just haven't got the time for hard core raiding.
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I'm a 'tool' rather than a 'toul'. We are unrelated in our genes and in our versions of what the Labour Party should be like.Sunil_Prasannan said:
No relation of John Rentoul?SandyRentool said:Labour 6.66%
(Was going to say UKIP 6.66% but had a late change of mind!)0 -
Me and Ms Briskin going to end up with an even book at this rate.0
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Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).
If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:
Lab: 43%
Green: 24%
DK: 16:
LD: 6%
Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
Other: 5%
UKIP: 2%
So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.0 -
My prediction of a Labour win (which seems to be contra-intuitive in the light of the circs) was based on what I understand to be a reasonably good turnout of believed Labour voters in the PVs. Of course, whether they are really Labour voters remains to be seen.David_Evershed said:PCC by-election prediction
UKIP over Labour by a margin of 7.21%
The result will depend on who can Get Out the Vote with a turnout below 20%, so hard to predict.
Makes sense, doesn't it? Popular music is mostly about emotion at some level, and we're all sorting out our emotions and distinguishing them from our parents at 20. Arguably classical music is more intellectual and liking for it tends to develop later when the hormones have calmed down.Plato said:I read a quite convincing study that found our teenage musical tastes to be significant.
Until we reach about 14yrs old - we adopt the tastes of our parents or other authority figures. Then we self-define and those views culturally stick with us forever. I thought there was a lot of sense here. I've adopted my older brothers' tastes and my mother's a lot. Yet have my own added on which fit neither.
In the same way, people take pop musical taste personally and are often arrogant about someone who likes something else (hence inferior music), while nobody ever sneers at you if you prefer Bach to Beethoven, because the emotions are less engaged.
Well, it's a theory anyway.
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Oh Ffs, apparently I'm on Sbbc duty.
I'll get you the Kenny Miller first goalscorer in a sec...0 -
The word 'voodoo' comes to mind.TOPPING said:Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).
If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:
Lab: 43%
Green: 24%
DK: 16:
LD: 6%
Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
Other: 5%
UKIP: 2%
So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.0 -
@NickPalmer do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value0
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We haven't got much to go on, but I think a Labour win is likely. In normal circumstances Labour would of course be a shoo-in South Yorks. These aren't normal circumstances, so I'm sure UKIP will do very well, although I do wonder whether the English Democrat candidate will take some of the anti-establishment vote - he did pretty well last time. However, for every voter who wants to kick Labour and the establishment generally over the grooming scandal by voting for the UKIP candidate, there may be another who prefers the less abrasive style of the Labour candidate, who does seem a pretty reasonable sort of guy from his election statement:NickPalmer said:My prediction of a Labour win (which seems to be contra-intuitive in the light of the circs) was based on what I understand to be a reasonably good turnout of believed Labour voters in the PVs. Of course, whether they are really Labour voters remains to be seen.
http://www.choosemypcc.org.uk/candidates/area/south-yorkshire0 -
Ukip by 23%. Labour people will not be arsed. Why should they be. Tories will almost all pile on ukip round 2.0
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Are you aware that he's likely to answer you Jonny?JonnyJimmy said:@NickPalmer do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value
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Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.RobD said:
The word 'voodoo' comes to mind.TOPPING said:Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).
If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:
Lab: 43%
Green: 24%
DK: 16:
LD: 6%
Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
Other: 5%
UKIP: 2%
So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.
but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.0 -
Should anyone who is unsuccessful in the competition wish to read the book in question, it's available in new condition via Amazon at a delivered cost of £8.86.0
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Pfp - Cheeky0
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Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!TOPPING said:
Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.RobD said:
The word 'voodoo' comes to mind.TOPPING said:Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).
If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:
Lab: 43%
Green: 24%
DK: 16:
LD: 6%
Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
Other: 5%
UKIP: 2%
So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.
but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
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A lets a check the Rangers odds0
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Evens less commission - my 1.6 Euros will be on very shortly0
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Labour 10.33%0
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Twitter followers, Rochester candidates:
Mark Reckless (UKIP): 12,700
https://twitter.com/MarkReckless
Kelly Tolhurst (Con): 1,524
https://twitter.com/KellyTolhurst
Naushabah Khan (Lab): 1,868
https://twitter.com/naushabahkhan
Clive Gregory (Green): 769
https://twitter.com/clivebassman0 -
ha yes!MarqueeMark said:
Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!TOPPING said:
Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.RobD said:
The word 'voodoo' comes to mind.TOPPING said:Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).
If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:
Lab: 43%
Green: 24%
DK: 16:
LD: 6%
Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
Other: 5%
UKIP: 2%
So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.
but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
I have quite a lot.
They always ask a standard set of questions to start each survey, which include: are you interested in different cultures, do you like to know what's going on in current affairs, etc, etc very Guardianish and also one, which is different in tone: "do you believe in equality for all?" It's such a funny (peculiar as well as ha ha) question not to say of course unclear in the extreme. It irritates me greatly each time.
But I suppose that comes with the territory at the Graun so I shouldn't complain.0 -
UKIP by around 10,000 votes. At least 60-65% of the vote.0
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Thick lefty central.
You may take my 1.6 Euros etc. etc.0 -
Good evening, everyone.
Welcome to pb.com, Mr. 92.
Mr. Putney, you may've missed a tip (not counting towards the scorecard, as it's early) on Vettel, each way, to be winner without Rosberg/Hamilton, at 15 with Ladbrokes. Assuming a Mercedes 1-2, it'd be green with a top 5 finish.0 -
Mr. Llama, missed your reply earlier.
I had heard something like that, but I believe that includes the game when it's finished, so it's not extortionate if you're confident you want the full game (NB do check if anyone's thinking of laying down £50 for a beta).
Gone off MGS for that nonsense, charging £40 for a two hour game. I'd decided against MGS5 anyway, after they axed Hayter for no damned reason, but that just reinforced my conviction it was the right call.0 -
Be tempted to say "No, I do not believe in equality for all. I think tax avoiders should have a very unequal circle of hell reserved for them.TOPPING said:
ha yes!MarqueeMark said:
Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!TOPPING said:
Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.RobD said:
The word 'voodoo' comes to mind.TOPPING said:Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).
If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:
Lab: 43%
Green: 24%
DK: 16:
LD: 6%
Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
Other: 5%
UKIP: 2%
So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.
but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
I have quite a lot.
They always ask a standard set of questions to start each survey, which include: are you interested in different cultures, do you like to know what's going on in current affairs, etc, etc very Guardianish and also one, which is different in tone: "do you believe in equality for all?" It's such a funny (peculiar as well as ha ha) question not to say of course unclear in the extreme. It irritates me greatly each time.
But I suppose that comes with the territory at the Graun so I shouldn't complain.
Like those at the Guardian who have benefited from such measures."
That should block their view from the moral high ground. Which of course is a piece of turf not open to all equally.....0 -
Monster Raving Loony ( aka Labour Party) by 3.12%
ABL. ;-)0 -
Mr. Moses, bit tired but welcome back to the site (my apologies if you're a newcomer).0
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Mr Morris
No the original... Had to take some time out but thank you sir anyway0 -
I always respond "no" and sadly there is not a space for any qualifying comments...MarqueeMark said:
Be tempted to say "No, I do not believe in equality for all. I think tax avoiders should have a very unequal circle of hell reserved for them.TOPPING said:
ha yes!MarqueeMark said:
Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!TOPPING said:
Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.RobD said:
The word 'voodoo' comes to mind.TOPPING said:Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).
If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:
Lab: 43%
Green: 24%
DK: 16:
LD: 6%
Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
Other: 5%
UKIP: 2%
So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.
but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
I have quite a lot.
They always ask a standard set of questions to start each survey, which include: are you interested in different cultures, do you like to know what's going on in current affairs, etc, etc very Guardianish and also one, which is different in tone: "do you believe in equality for all?" It's such a funny (peculiar as well as ha ha) question not to say of course unclear in the extreme. It irritates me greatly each time.
But I suppose that comes with the territory at the Graun so I shouldn't complain.
Like those at the Guardian who have benefited from such measures."
That should block their view from the moral high ground. Which of course is a piece of turf not open to all equally.....
On CiF there is a hugely amusing list which is published from time to time by one of the contributors btl detailing how many of the Guardian editorial staff and contributors went to public school then Oxbridge.
We are talking 90%+, or at least we were until quite recently (not noticed a huge demographic change, save perhaps for the addition of Jack Monroe's column).
Still, at least we have them there as a moral beacon, shining brightly for us all to see.0 -
My weapons grade laptop apparently still in service.
Second half just started...0 -
Hints re interest rates not going up from BoE Deputy Governor.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-298116810 -
Mr. T, was sadly unsurprised by the ISIS/Turkish stuff you tweeted earlier. If they're attacked, we're duty bound to help them, which is madness given their seeming chummyness with ISIS.0
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Bananarama were never as pretty as you wanted them to be despite all the accoutrements of being very pretty.SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
(edit: ie big straggly hair, ripped jeans, leather jackets, etc)0 -
It continues as I left off then
SeanT , Banamarama and a spin drier?
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I'm sure it won't be full repayment and I doubt if it'll be part payment by 1/12, but I think we'll pay in the end. Cameron knows as well as anyone that the mills of the EU grind slowly - if Britain pays up around June, the case will still be trundling through the machinery. The EU will roll its collective eyes and shrug in the Gallic manner.JonnyJimmy said:@NickPalmer do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value
Only problem is that postponing it makes it an election issue - "Do you promise not to pay it all, ever, Mr Cameron?" "Well, er..." It might be better to get it out of the way. But I think Cameron's painted himself into a corner.0 -
Oops - Yes, I'm still looking for my 1.6 Euros.
You couldn't make it up...0 -
UKIP by 0.01% after at least one recount0
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That applies to all party leaders. Clegg will say he'll cough up, Miliband will run away from the question and Farage will say pay up or get out.NickPalmer said:
I'm sure it won't be full repayment and I doubt if it'll be part payment by 1/12, but I think we'll pay in the end. Cameron knows as well as anyone that the mills of the EU grind slowly - if Britain pays up around June, the case will still be trundling through the machinery. The EU will roll its collective eyes and shrug in the Gallic manner.JonnyJimmy said:@NickPalmer do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value
Only problem is that postponing it makes it an election issue - "Do you promise not to pay it all, ever, Mr Cameron?" "Well, er..." It might be better to get it out of the way. But I think Cameron's painted himself into a corner.0 -
Keren my childhood dream girl and got with the guy I wanted to be, old Ridgers!TOPPING said:
Bananarama were never as pretty as you wanted them to be despite all the accoutrements of being very pretty.SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
(edit: ie big straggly hair, ripped jeans, leather jackets, etc)0 -
Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:
David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says
The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html0 -
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
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Let's go for... Labour by 1.22%0
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I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?Carnyx said:
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
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Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?0
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It is impossible! Anyone who says any different is a bare faced liarmanofkent2014 said:Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:
David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says
The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html
Terrible how telling the truth is considered a faux pas isn't it?0 -
Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).JBriskin said:
I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?Carnyx said:
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
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Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????Carnyx said:
Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).JBriskin said:
I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?Carnyx said:
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
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Oh? What's happening?JBriskin said:
Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????Carnyx said:
Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).JBriskin said:
I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?Carnyx said:
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
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Soccer - league cupCarnyx said:
Oh? What's happening?JBriskin said:
Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????Carnyx said:
Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).JBriskin said:
I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?Carnyx said:
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
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Labour by 2.86%0
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I normally trust gsmarena and they say it has a barometer. I can't find anything online about how accurate it is. The only mention is that it helps with GPS by providing an indication of altitude...Plato said:
I haven't tried it against a proper barometer with paper yet [we had one at home... I know...
There seems to be a conflict about what it does - I'm waiting for a nano SIM to arrive to make mine work. Some sites say it has a barometer - some don't. If it made my bed I wouldn't be surprised right now...This is one - a gyroscope????Compass/ Magnetometer Yes
Proximity sensor Yes
Accelerometer Yes
Ambient light sensor Yes
Gyroscope YesOblitusSumMe said:Have you compared the barometer readings to a properly calibrated barometer? I'd be interested to know how accurate it was. Also, can it use the GPS to find your altitude and then correct the pressure reading to mean sea level?
Plato said:If anyone bar @MaxPB is getting a Sony one - it's me. I'm delighted with my Xperia Z3c - what a sexy phone. Bigger than my tiny ancient Nokia 6300, but for an all singing and dancing bit of kit it's small compared to rivals and even has a barometer. WTF? Hilarious but marvellous as a weather geek!
Someone will pop up and say theirs does too - YAWN. Let me enjoy this fun - I haven't bought a mobile since 2009.Morris_Dancer said:Mr. Away, kids today don't know they're born. When I were a lad, it used to take 30 minutes for a computer game to load from the cassette tape.
[That sounds like a piss take, but it's actually true].
Today, the PS4 permits shareplay, which means (if you subscribe to some service or other) a friend of yours can remotely play for one hour (can be renewed indefinitely) a game you own on your PS4, provided both are connected to the internet. Even if the friend doesn't own that game.
I don't own one, mind, I just think it's incredibly impressive.
Edited extra bit: of course, if a Sony exec follows pb.com and wants to reward me for my endorsement, I would be willing to accept one and/or some money as thanks.
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By at least 8% is my confident prediction.peter_from_putney said:Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?
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Indeed but that's the world we live in.......isam said:
It is impossible! Anyone who says any different is a bare faced liarmanofkent2014 said:Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:
David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says
The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html
Terrible how telling the truth is considered a faux pas isn't it?0 -
Ah!JBriskin said:
Soccer - league cupCarnyx said:
Oh? What's happening?JBriskin said:
Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????Carnyx said:
Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).JBriskin said:
I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?Carnyx said:
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
I was just dipping in after checking out some local history photos found by a collaborator.
But in other news - Wings over Scotland is having an interesting time dissecting claims by Mr Miliband's office and the Daily Record over who actually wrote the Vow before the Referendum. Could be interesting.
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Labour 19.32%0
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"The Tower of London poppies are fake, trite and inward-looking – a Ukip-style memorial"
http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2014/oct/28/tower-of-london-poppies-ukip-remembrance-day
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Err, NoCarnyx said:
Ah!JBriskin said:
Soccer - league cupCarnyx said:
Oh? What's happening?JBriskin said:
Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????Carnyx said:
Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).JBriskin said:
I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?Carnyx said:
Was the spin cycle on?SeanT said:Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington
It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.
Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.
I was just dipping in after checking out some local history photos found by a collaborator.
But in other news - Wings over Scotland is having an interesting time dissecting claims by Mr Miliband's office and the Daily Record over who actually wrote the Vow before the Referendum. Could be interesting.
It ain't easy fixing footie matches y'know
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I think that the Tories have to hold their nerve and steer steady as she goes. At least Cameron is making the right noises on the latest European payment, but we shall see what happens on delivery. Ed would simply cough up...peter_from_putney said:Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?
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Mr. Beds, I really rather like the Tower of London poppies.
I doubt UKIP will mind being mentioned in that way. Writ small, it reminds me of the Milibands (before the MacBeth moment) when they revealed a poster portraying Cameron as Gene Hunt and thought it would make him unpopular.
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I want some of what you're on!JohnO said:
By at least 8% is my confident prediction.peter_from_putney said:Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?
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As we will end up paying regardless no doubt, while I appreciate the noises of defiance I don't really see the point of it all.DavidBrackenbury said:
I think that the Tories have to hold their nerve and steer steady as she goes. At least Cameron is making the right noises on the latest European payment, but we shall see what happens on delivery. Ed would simply cough up...peter_from_putney said:Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?
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It's genius analysis, and political insight, like that which explains why Nick Boles failed to win Hove in 2005, and actually achieved a swing against himself as the Conservative candidate, in a seat they'd otherwise have won.manofkent2014 said:Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:
David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says
The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html
He only got in to parliament through a safe seat.
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Lol0