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  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    Pong said:

    Labour by 26.72%

    That's a stonking prediction in terms of the meta so far tbh.
  • volcanopetevolcanopete Posts: 2,078
    There's a petition doing the rounds seeking an end to bookies limiting betting but not FOBTs.It might interest a few here who have been prevented from getting a decent stake on or have had accounts closed because you've backed a few winners.


    https://www.change.org/p/paul-darling-chairman-association-of-british-bookmakers-we-call-on-the-chairman-of-the-abb-to-initiate-a-public-investigation-into-the-strategy-of-their-members-refusing-business-on-what-should-be-the-primary-activity-in-their-shops-betting
  • tpfkartpfkar Posts: 1,565
    I'm going for UKIP by pi %

    They seem to want it more, and have combined momentum with steelier ground campaigning.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380

    There's a petition doing the rounds seeking an end to bookies limiting betting but not FOBTs.It might interest a few here who have been prevented from getting a decent stake on or have had accounts closed because you've backed a few winners.


    https://www.change.org/p/paul-darling-chairman-association-of-british-bookmakers-we-call-on-the-chairman-of-the-abb-to-initiate-a-public-investigation-into-the-strategy-of-their-members-refusing-business-on-what-should-be-the-primary-activity-in-their-shops-betting

    Longest Url Eva

  • Richard_NabaviRichard_Nabavi Posts: 30,821
    edited October 2014
    Interesting that many people here think UKIP will win.

    That's not what the bookies think.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380

    There's a petition doing the rounds seeking an end to bookies limiting betting but not FOBTs.It might interest a few here who have been prevented from getting a decent stake on or have had accounts closed because you've backed a few winners.


    https://www.change.org/p/paul-darling-chairman-association-of-british-bookmakers-we-call-on-the-chairman-of-the-abb-to-initiate-a-public-investigation-into-the-strategy-of-their-members-refusing-business-on-what-should-be-the-primary-activity-in-their-shops-betting

    Wait, what?

    A petition to max up the FOBTs????

    Who said Ed M didn't have fans...
  • Fat_SteveFat_Steve Posts: 361
    Ukip. 3.42
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406

    Interesting that many people here think UKIP will win.

    That's not what the bookies think.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/south-yorkshire-police-and-crime-commissioner

    Shadsy still top price and arbable against Hills. Hills have shortened on Labour but still must know they are arbable.

    So Sidney is effectively backing UKIP and Shadsy is effectively backing Labour.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Silence from Harman and the Labour sisterhood, seems that they don't bother to worry about what happens to women regardless of creed or colour.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29794729

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    edited October 2014
    Pulpstar said:

    Interesting that many people here think UKIP will win.

    That's not what the bookies think.

    http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/british-politics/south-yorkshire-police-and-crime-commissioner

    Shadsy still top price and arbable against Hills. Hills have shortened on Labour but still must know they are arbable.

    So Sidney is effectively backing UKIP and Shadsy is effectively backing Labour.
    Normally when this sort of thing happens, Ladbrokes is on the right side of the bet. (11-2 YES springs to mind)
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    dr_spyn said:

    Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 1m1 minute ago
    Scottish Labour leadership:

    31 OCT:
    Nominations open.

    4 NOV:
    Nominations officially close.

    17 NOV:
    Voting.

    13 DEC:
    New leader elected.

    14 DEC:
    Ed's people piss off new leader

    15 DEC:
    New leader resigns amidst bitter recriminations

    16 DEC:
    New leadership - nominations open.....
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380

    dr_spyn said:

    Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 1m1 minute ago
    Scottish Labour leadership:

    31 OCT:
    Nominations open.

    4 NOV:
    Nominations officially close.

    17 NOV:
    Voting.

    13 DEC:
    New leader elected.

    14 DEC:
    Ed's people piss off new leader

    15 DEC:
    New leader resigns amidst bitter recriminations

    16 DEC:
    New leadership - nominations open.....
    That a bout a closa to 800/1

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406

    dr_spyn said:

    Harry Cole ‏@MrHarryCole 1m1 minute ago
    Scottish Labour leadership:

    31 OCT:
    Nominations open.

    4 NOV:
    Nominations officially close.

    17 NOV:
    Voting.

    13 DEC:
    New leader elected.

    14 DEC:
    Ed's people piss off new leader

    15 DEC:
    New leader resigns amidst bitter recriminations

    16 DEC:
    New leadership - nominations open.....
    I'll be hoisting the red flag if they elect Neil Findlay.
  • Romania game

    For anyone that would like to play, the game is here:

    http://www.electiongame.co.uk/romania/

    Entries close 12 noon Sunday and the US Midterms game will be out next - game includes opinion poll links.

    Many thanks,


    DC
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    UKIP by 102 votes
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,704
    Interesting discussion with recent graduate grandchildren this afternoon. Some of their friends are considering voting LibDem, due to recent emphasis on mental health issues.
    Grandchildren are, of course, tribal LibDems.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395

    Romania game

    For anyone that would like to play, the game is here:

    http://www.electiongame.co.uk/romania/

    Entries close 12 noon Sunday and the US Midterms game will be out next - game includes opinion poll links.

    Many thanks,


    DC

    I'd like to play but, like Brazil, I don't know anything about politics in the country.
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    @MarqueeMark +1.

    Made me laugh.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    25% of Students in Edinburgh go private (SBBC, guess the time)
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    JBriskin said:

    25% of Students in Edinburgh go private (SBBC, guess the time)

    By Students I mean pupils. When I said private I guess I meant Public??

    Anyway - hopefully you got the gist
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    edited October 2014
    @Morris_Dancer

    "Certain game franchises are bloody enormous."

    Expect the new Elite to be up there with the biggest. They are charging £50 to join the Beta.
  • PCC by-election prediction

    UKIP over Labour by a margin of 7.21%

    The result will depend on who can Get Out the Vote with a turnout below 20%, so hard to predict.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Yay!!! Willie Miller at Ibrox

    Team casio in your Tvs
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited October 2014
    I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too

    I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.

    And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.

    Plato said:

    Miss Plato, but what about Help?

    The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.
    I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and Saunders :)
  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    MikeK said:

    UKIP by 102 votes

    Mr. K,

    Glad to see you are still with us. I hope the dreaded 'flu is passing and you are feeling better.
  • Danny565Danny565 Posts: 8,091



    Newark was the only Tory by-election victory this Parliament. Also interesting that Tory vote-share has decreased in every GB mainland by-election this Parliament.

    Even Gordon Brown managed small increases in a couple of byelections (Glenrothes and Glasgow North East)
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033

    Mr. D, I believe EVE is Iceland's third largest export.

    I did not know that! I'm bloody gutted I don't have my characters name on the monument they have built in Reykjavik, I cancelled my sub a few months previous.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    edited October 2014
    Plato said:

    I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too

    I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.

    And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.

    Plato said:

    Miss Plato, but what about Help?

    The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.
    I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and Saunders :)
    I'm loathe to engage with you before the football Plato. But the Beatles liked Buddy as well. There's a cover on Anthology 1

  • HurstLlamaHurstLlama Posts: 9,098
    RobD said:

    Mr. D, I believe EVE is Iceland's third largest export.

    I did not know that! I'm bloody gutted I don't have my characters name on the monument they have built in Reykjavik, I cancelled my sub a few months previous.
    Its amazing really. I tried it when it was first released and found it mind-numbingly boring. That it has become such a vast business is stunning (and possibly a little scary).
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    edited October 2014
    I read a quite convincing study that found our teenage musical tastes to be significant.

    Until we reach about 14yrs old - we adopt the tastes of our parents or other authority figures. Then we self-define and those views culturally stick with us forever. I thought there was a lot of sense here. I've adopted my older brothers' tastes and my mother's a lot. Yet have my own added on which fit neither.

    I still hate what I hate no matter who liked it.


    ...

    Thats a big improvement on the current BBC offerings

    Yes, 'tis a matter of taste. I remember Our Mutal Friend as being pretty good, like a whole string of classics production in those days (not least the original and unbeatable Forsyte Saga, but also Vanity Fair and several others) and I liked Emmerdale Farm before it dropped the Farm and went a bit tabloid.

    As with music, I think people tend to like what they grew up with. Nowadays, I don't have a TV (no time really) and just catch up with the occasional thing on iPlayer.

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    I get the impression that MI6 will shoot me if I can't source this-

    Rangers 1.93
    St Johnstone 4.5
  • PlatoPlato Posts: 15,724
    Wasn't that my point. Beatles covered Buddy?

    Blondie did Cochran as post-punk with One Way Or Another.
    JBriskin said:

    Plato said:

    I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too

    I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.

    And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.

    Plato said:

    Miss Plato, but what about Help?

    The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.
    I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and Saunders :)
    I'm loathe to engage with you before the football Plato. But the Beatles liked Buddy as well. There's a cover on Anthology 1

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Plato said:

    Wasn't that my point. Beatles covered Buddy?

    Blondie did Cochran as post-punk with One Way Or Another.

    JBriskin said:

    Plato said:

    I love covers, but it gets really messy - especially when we're talking at crossed purposes too

    I much prefer Buddy Holly to The Beatles covers myself.

    And Sex Pistols of Eddie Cochran... the 50/60s are infested with covers IME. I keep tripping across them. I still love Jose Felicino's version of The Doors/Light My Fire more than anything. What a cool cat here. I've another dozen tracks of his, but he's Latino pap otherwise IMO.

    Plato said:

    Miss Plato, but what about Help?

    The movie? I love it, and own it. As a menu option another thing. Which app? I expect to spend A LOT of time this week trying to make my various new bits of kit talk to each other wirelessly no matter what 802.11x blah they say.
    I think he meant the Bananarama cover version with French and Saunders :)
    I'm loathe to engage with you before the football Plato. But the Beatles liked Buddy as well. There's a cover on Anthology 1

    Err, No.

    My point was that the Beatles covered Buddy and it's available on Anthology 1

  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    League of Legends is the highest grossing game at the moment I believe.

    I don't play it.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,406
    @PLato Welcome back btw !
  • ZenPaganZenPagan Posts: 689
    RobD said:

    murali_s said:

    Pulpstar said:

    murali_s said:

    Mr. Away, isn't there a new Elite game out?

    probably but I don't want to play it . Might ruin the memory!!! Ready for docking!!
    Original Elite was a classic! Many a ruined weekend!!

    After a three year gap, I've gone back to playing WoW. Now, need to drug the wife and somehow cope with 3 hours sleep every night.

    Yes, I am sad....
    New expansion coming soon.

    You could apply to my guild www.final-evolution.com ^_~
    Yep, the new expansion was the draw for me to come back.

    Seems like an interesting guild but will only be a social player for now - just haven't got the time for hard core raiding.
    I used to play EVE Online... but my god is that game a time sink.
    I still play Eve and it is still a time sink but what other game gets you phone calls at 4am when an emergency fleet scramble is needed

  • SandyRentoolSandyRentool Posts: 22,171

    Labour 6.66%

    (Was going to say UKIP 6.66% but had a late change of mind!)

    No relation of John Rentoul?
    I'm a 'tool' rather than a 'toul'. We are unrelated in our genes and in our versions of what the Labour Party should be like.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Me and Ms Briskin going to end up with an even book at this rate.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).

    If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

    Lab: 43%
    Green: 24%
    DK: 16:
    LD: 6%
    Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
    Other: 5%
    UKIP: 2%

    So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.
  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564

    PCC by-election prediction

    UKIP over Labour by a margin of 7.21%

    The result will depend on who can Get Out the Vote with a turnout below 20%, so hard to predict.

    My prediction of a Labour win (which seems to be contra-intuitive in the light of the circs) was based on what I understand to be a reasonably good turnout of believed Labour voters in the PVs. Of course, whether they are really Labour voters remains to be seen.
    Plato said:

    I read a quite convincing study that found our teenage musical tastes to be significant.

    Until we reach about 14yrs old - we adopt the tastes of our parents or other authority figures. Then we self-define and those views culturally stick with us forever. I thought there was a lot of sense here. I've adopted my older brothers' tastes and my mother's a lot. Yet have my own added on which fit neither.

    Makes sense, doesn't it? Popular music is mostly about emotion at some level, and we're all sorting out our emotions and distinguishing them from our parents at 20. Arguably classical music is more intellectual and liking for it tends to develop later when the hormones have calmed down.

    In the same way, people take pop musical taste personally and are often arrogant about someone who likes something else (hence inferior music), while nobody ever sneers at you if you prefer Bach to Beethoven, because the emotions are less engaged.

    Well, it's a theory anyway.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Oh Ffs, apparently I'm on Sbbc duty.

    I'll get you the Kenny Miller first goalscorer in a sec...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 60,033
    TOPPING said:

    Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).

    If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

    Lab: 43%
    Green: 24%
    DK: 16:
    LD: 6%
    Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
    Other: 5%
    UKIP: 2%

    So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.

    The word 'voodoo' comes to mind. ;)
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    JBriskin said:

    Oh Ffs, apparently I'm on Sbbc duty.

    I'll get you the Kenny Miller first goalscorer in a sec...

    Lol 1.01 - I'll pass (But not to the Sbbc duty...)

  • JonnyJimmyJonnyJimmy Posts: 2,548
    @NickPalmer‌ do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value
  • My prediction of a Labour win (which seems to be contra-intuitive in the light of the circs) was based on what I understand to be a reasonably good turnout of believed Labour voters in the PVs. Of course, whether they are really Labour voters remains to be seen.

    We haven't got much to go on, but I think a Labour win is likely. In normal circumstances Labour would of course be a shoo-in South Yorks. These aren't normal circumstances, so I'm sure UKIP will do very well, although I do wonder whether the English Democrat candidate will take some of the anti-establishment vote - he did pretty well last time. However, for every voter who wants to kick Labour and the establishment generally over the grooming scandal by voting for the UKIP candidate, there may be another who prefers the less abrasive style of the Labour candidate, who does seem a pretty reasonable sort of guy from his election statement:

    http://www.choosemypcc.org.uk/candidates/area/south-yorkshire
  • Ukip by 23%. Labour people will not be arsed. Why should they be. Tories will almost all pile on ukip round 2.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380

    @NickPalmer‌ do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value

    Are you aware that he's likely to answer you Jonny?

  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    RobD said:

    TOPPING said:

    Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).

    If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

    Lab: 43%
    Green: 24%
    DK: 16:
    LD: 6%
    Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
    Other: 5%
    UKIP: 2%

    So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.

    The word 'voodoo' comes to mind. ;)
    Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.

    but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
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  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Pfp - Cheeky
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    TOPPING said:

    RobD said:

    TOPPING said:

    Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).

    If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

    Lab: 43%
    Green: 24%
    DK: 16:
    LD: 6%
    Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
    Other: 5%
    UKIP: 2%

    So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.

    The word 'voodoo' comes to mind. ;)
    Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.

    but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
    Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    A lets a check the Rangers odds
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Evens less commission - my 1.6 Euros will be on very shortly
  • Labour 10.33%
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    edited October 2014
    Twitter followers, Rochester candidates:

    Mark Reckless (UKIP): 12,700
    https://twitter.com/MarkReckless

    Kelly Tolhurst (Con): 1,524
    https://twitter.com/KellyTolhurst

    Naushabah Khan (Lab): 1,868
    https://twitter.com/naushabahkhan

    Clive Gregory (Green): 769
    https://twitter.com/clivebassman
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046

    TOPPING said:

    RobD said:

    TOPPING said:

    Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).

    If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

    Lab: 43%
    Green: 24%
    DK: 16:
    LD: 6%
    Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
    Other: 5%
    UKIP: 2%

    So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.

    The word 'voodoo' comes to mind. ;)
    Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.

    but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
    Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!
    ha yes!

    I have quite a lot.

    They always ask a standard set of questions to start each survey, which include: are you interested in different cultures, do you like to know what's going on in current affairs, etc, etc very Guardianish and also one, which is different in tone: "do you believe in equality for all?" It's such a funny (peculiar as well as ha ha) question not to say of course unclear in the extreme. It irritates me greatly each time.

    But I suppose that comes with the territory at the Graun so I shouldn't complain.
  • UKIP by around 10,000 votes. At least 60-65% of the vote.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Thick lefty central.

    You may take my 1.6 Euros etc. etc.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Good evening, everyone.

    Welcome to pb.com, Mr. 92.

    Mr. Putney, you may've missed a tip (not counting towards the scorecard, as it's early) on Vettel, each way, to be winner without Rosberg/Hamilton, at 15 with Ladbrokes. Assuming a Mercedes 1-2, it'd be green with a top 5 finish.
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Llama, missed your reply earlier.

    I had heard something like that, but I believe that includes the game when it's finished, so it's not extortionate if you're confident you want the full game (NB do check if anyone's thinking of laying down £50 for a beta).

    Gone off MGS for that nonsense, charging £40 for a two hour game. I'd decided against MGS5 anyway, after they axed Hayter for no damned reason, but that just reinforced my conviction it was the right call.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,937
    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    RobD said:

    TOPPING said:

    Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).

    If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

    Lab: 43%
    Green: 24%
    DK: 16:
    LD: 6%
    Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
    Other: 5%
    UKIP: 2%

    So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.

    The word 'voodoo' comes to mind. ;)
    Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.

    but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
    Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!
    ha yes!

    I have quite a lot.

    They always ask a standard set of questions to start each survey, which include: are you interested in different cultures, do you like to know what's going on in current affairs, etc, etc very Guardianish and also one, which is different in tone: "do you believe in equality for all?" It's such a funny (peculiar as well as ha ha) question not to say of course unclear in the extreme. It irritates me greatly each time.

    But I suppose that comes with the territory at the Graun so I shouldn't complain.
    Be tempted to say "No, I do not believe in equality for all. I think tax avoiders should have a very unequal circle of hell reserved for them.

    Like those at the Guardian who have benefited from such measures."

    That should block their view from the moral high ground. Which of course is a piece of turf not open to all equally.....
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Monster Raving Loony ( aka Labour Party) by 3.12%

    ABL. ;-)
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Moses, bit tired but welcome back to the site (my apologies if you're a newcomer).
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    Mr Morris

    No the original... Had to take some time out but thank you sir anyway
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046

    TOPPING said:

    TOPPING said:

    RobD said:

    TOPPING said:

    Interesting (?) "poll" by Guardian - their self-selecting sign-up thing, "Guardian Crowd" (4,400 members).

    If there was a general election tomorrow, who would you vote for:

    Lab: 43%
    Green: 24%
    DK: 16:
    LD: 6%
    Cons: 5% (bonjour!)
    Other: 5%
    UKIP: 2%

    So much for Polly's entreaty. Look what happens to a NOTA when they become OOTA.

    The word 'voodoo' comes to mind. ;)
    Oh yes absolutely - not thinking it has any rigour.

    but it is an interesting window onto the mind of a Guardianista.
    Those 2% of Kippers must have some fun!
    ha yes!

    I have quite a lot.

    They always ask a standard set of questions to start each survey, which include: are you interested in different cultures, do you like to know what's going on in current affairs, etc, etc very Guardianish and also one, which is different in tone: "do you believe in equality for all?" It's such a funny (peculiar as well as ha ha) question not to say of course unclear in the extreme. It irritates me greatly each time.

    But I suppose that comes with the territory at the Graun so I shouldn't complain.
    Be tempted to say "No, I do not believe in equality for all. I think tax avoiders should have a very unequal circle of hell reserved for them.

    Like those at the Guardian who have benefited from such measures."

    That should block their view from the moral high ground. Which of course is a piece of turf not open to all equally.....
    I always respond "no" and sadly there is not a space for any qualifying comments...

    On CiF there is a hugely amusing list which is published from time to time by one of the contributors btl detailing how many of the Guardian editorial staff and contributors went to public school then Oxbridge.

    We are talking 90%+, or at least we were until quite recently (not noticed a huge demographic change, save perhaps for the addition of Jack Monroe's column).

    Still, at least we have them there as a moral beacon, shining brightly for us all to see.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    My weapons grade laptop apparently still in service.

    Second half just started...
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    Hints re interest rates not going up from BoE Deputy Governor.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-29811681
  • dr_spyndr_spyn Posts: 11,300
    @SeanT £20k for each story or is this the advance on your latest volume of excess, drugs & rock n'roll?
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. T, was sadly unsurprised by the ISIS/Turkish stuff you tweeted earlier. If they're attacked, we're duty bound to help them, which is madness given their seeming chummyness with ISIS.
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 43,046
    edited October 2014
    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Bananarama were never as pretty as you wanted them to be despite all the accoutrements of being very pretty.

    (edit: ie big straggly hair, ripped jeans, leather jackets, etc)
  • Moses_Moses_ Posts: 4,865
    It continues as I left off then

    SeanT , Banamarama and a spin drier?

  • NickPalmerNickPalmer Posts: 21,564

    @NickPalmer‌ do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value

    I'm sure it won't be full repayment and I doubt if it'll be part payment by 1/12, but I think we'll pay in the end. Cameron knows as well as anyone that the mills of the EU grind slowly - if Britain pays up around June, the case will still be trundling through the machinery. The EU will roll its collective eyes and shrug in the Gallic manner.

    Only problem is that postponing it makes it an election issue - "Do you promise not to pay it all, ever, Mr Cameron?" "Well, er..." It might be better to get it out of the way. But I think Cameron's painted himself into a corner.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Oops - Yes, I'm still looking for my 1.6 Euros.

    You couldn't make it up...
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    UKIP by 0.01% after at least one recount
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,514

    @NickPalmer‌ do you have a view on the Ladbrokes EU repayment market? (1/3 no payment, 5/1 part payment, 5/1 full repayment by 1/12) I reckon part payment is the value

    I'm sure it won't be full repayment and I doubt if it'll be part payment by 1/12, but I think we'll pay in the end. Cameron knows as well as anyone that the mills of the EU grind slowly - if Britain pays up around June, the case will still be trundling through the machinery. The EU will roll its collective eyes and shrug in the Gallic manner.

    Only problem is that postponing it makes it an election issue - "Do you promise not to pay it all, ever, Mr Cameron?" "Well, er..." It might be better to get it out of the way. But I think Cameron's painted himself into a corner.
    That applies to all party leaders. Clegg will say he'll cough up, Miliband will run away from the question and Farage will say pay up or get out.
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    TOPPING said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Bananarama were never as pretty as you wanted them to be despite all the accoutrements of being very pretty.

    (edit: ie big straggly hair, ripped jeans, leather jackets, etc)
    Keren my childhood dream girl and got with the guy I wanted to be, old Ridgers!
  • manofkent2014manofkent2014 Posts: 1,543
    edited October 2014
    Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:

    David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says

    The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337
    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

  • CookieCookie Posts: 14,074
    Let's go for... Labour by 1.22%
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

    I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?
  • Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118

    Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:

    David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says

    The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html

    It is impossible! Anyone who says any different is a bare faced liar

    Terrible how telling the truth is considered a faux pas isn't it?
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337
    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

    I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?
    Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

    I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?
    Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).

    Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????

  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337
    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

    I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?
    Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).

    Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????

    Oh? What's happening?

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

    I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?
    Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).

    Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????

    Oh? What's happening?

    Soccer - league cup
  • Labour by 2.86%
  • OblitusSumMeOblitusSumMe Posts: 9,143
    I normally trust gsmarena and they say it has a barometer. I can't find anything online about how accurate it is. The only mention is that it helps with GPS by providing an indication of altitude...
    Plato said:

    I haven't tried it against a proper barometer with paper yet [we had one at home... I know...

    There seems to be a conflict about what it does - I'm waiting for a nano SIM to arrive to make mine work. Some sites say it has a barometer - some don't. If it made my bed I wouldn't be surprised right now...This is one - a gyroscope????

    Compass/ Magnetometer Yes
    Proximity sensor Yes
    Accelerometer Yes
    Ambient light sensor Yes
    Gyroscope Yes

    Have you compared the barometer readings to a properly calibrated barometer? I'd be interested to know how accurate it was. Also, can it use the GPS to find your altitude and then correct the pressure reading to mean sea level?

    Plato said:

    If anyone bar @MaxPB‌ is getting a Sony one - it's me. I'm delighted with my Xperia Z3c - what a sexy phone. Bigger than my tiny ancient Nokia 6300, but for an all singing and dancing bit of kit it's small compared to rivals and even has a barometer. WTF? Hilarious but marvellous as a weather geek!

    Someone will pop up and say theirs does too - YAWN. Let me enjoy this fun - I haven't bought a mobile since 2009.

    Mr. Away, kids today don't know they're born. When I were a lad, it used to take 30 minutes for a computer game to load from the cassette tape.

    [That sounds like a piss take, but it's actually true].

    Today, the PS4 permits shareplay, which means (if you subscribe to some service or other) a friend of yours can remotely play for one hour (can be renewed indefinitely) a game you own on your PS4, provided both are connected to the internet. Even if the friend doesn't own that game.

    I don't own one, mind, I just think it's incredibly impressive.

    Edited extra bit: of course, if a Sony exec follows pb.com and wants to reward me for my endorsement, I would be willing to accept one and/or some money as thanks.


  • JohnOJohnO Posts: 4,291

    Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?

    By at least 8% is my confident prediction.
  • isam said:

    Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:

    David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says

    The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html

    It is impossible! Anyone who says any different is a bare faced liar

    Terrible how telling the truth is considered a faux pas isn't it?
    Indeed but that's the world we live in.......
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 43,337
    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

    I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?
    Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).

    Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????

    Oh? What's happening?

    Soccer - league cup
    Ah!

    I was just dipping in after checking out some local history photos found by a collaborator.

    But in other news - Wings over Scotland is having an interesting time dissecting claims by Mr Miliband's office and the Daily Record over who actually wrote the Vow before the Referendum. Could be interesting.

  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578
    Labour 19.32%
  • "The Tower of London poppies are fake, trite and inward-looking – a Ukip-style memorial"

    http://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/jonathanjonesblog/2014/oct/28/tower-of-london-poppies-ukip-remembrance-day

  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    JBriskin said:

    Carnyx said:

    SeanT said:

    Important, and ON topic: a member of Bananarama once had sex on top of my tumbledryer, in my (then) home in Barnsbury, Islington

    It was that kind of party. Rebekah Brooks and her then husband Ross Kemp came, and looked scandalised. Yet they stayed.

    Oh, the stories I could tell. For about £20k.

    Was the spin cycle on?

    I take it you are not watching the Tv then Carnyx?
    Naah - haven't watched TV for months (except when visiting elderly relative).

    Still nill nill apparently there's 1.6Bn Euros on it????

    Oh? What's happening?

    Soccer - league cup
    Ah!

    I was just dipping in after checking out some local history photos found by a collaborator.

    But in other news - Wings over Scotland is having an interesting time dissecting claims by Mr Miliband's office and the Daily Record over who actually wrote the Vow before the Referendum. Could be interesting.

    Err, No

    It ain't easy fixing footie matches y'know

  • Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?

    I think that the Tories have to hold their nerve and steer steady as she goes. At least Cameron is making the right noises on the latest European payment, but we shall see what happens on delivery. Ed would simply cough up...
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,952
    Mr. Beds, I really rather like the Tower of London poppies.

    I doubt UKIP will mind being mentioned in that way. Writ small, it reminds me of the Milibands (before the MacBeth moment) when they revealed a poster portraying Cameron as Gene Hunt and thought it would make him unpopular.

    Sometimes the chattering classes really don't understanding other people.
  • JohnO said:

    Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?

    By at least 8% is my confident prediction.
    I want some of what you're on!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,578

    Will the Tories regain the lead in tonight's YouGov/Sun poll?

    I think that the Tories have to hold their nerve and steer steady as she goes. At least Cameron is making the right noises on the latest European payment, but we shall see what happens on delivery. Ed would simply cough up...
    As we will end up paying regardless no doubt, while I appreciate the noises of defiance I don't really see the point of it all.

  • Casino_RoyaleCasino_Royale Posts: 60,693

    Oops looks like Nick Boles has stuck his foot in his gob again:

    David Cameron 'may never be able to control' EU immigration, Nick Boles says

    The business and education minister concedes that it could be impossible to control the number of foreigners coming to the UK from within the European Union


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11193410/David-Cameron-may-never-be-able-to-control-EU-immigration-Nick-Boles-says.html

    It's genius analysis, and political insight, like that which explains why Nick Boles failed to win Hove in 2005, and actually achieved a swing against himself as the Conservative candidate, in a seat they'd otherwise have won.

    He only got in to parliament through a safe seat.
  • JBriskinJBriskin Posts: 2,380
    Lol
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