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I thought the Estonian lady both looked and sang beautifully! But Belarus looks OK too!0
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Has the detoxifying of the centre-right [the Cameroonian Conservatives] enabled the shrinkage of the centre-left [LibDems] and the Magic Money Tree left [EdM's Labour]? It's certainly damaged the electoral prospects of the centre-right.0
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Malta wins prize for lyrics: got risk assessment in. Better even than the lithuanian singing about his shoes named love and pain.0
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Has Plato left PB ? I don't see her posts.0
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I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.
Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?
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When the Maltese entrant started singing about Jeremy who works in IT, I thought it was going to take a much more interesting lyrical direction than in fact it took. Clearly the singer has never come across any Jeremies who work in IT (or alternatively, he might have done and be trying to maintain proprieties all round in an otherwise socially conservative society).0
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Even bad sauvignon blanc is a better bet than aftershave.TwistedFireStopper said:I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.
Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?0 -
Have you checked the kitchen cupboard for cooking sherry?TwistedFireStopper said:I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.
Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?
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Oh, good news ! Ennis gets married !!0
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Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.0
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You don't have a stash of 'Christmassy tipples' that you never drink because they're disgusting? That's what I turn to in an emergency.TwistedFireStopper said:I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.
Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?
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Cascada on now!0
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These Kiwis are far better than their No.8 rating !0
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The dancefloor has just been evacuated.0
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Anyone else disturbed that the German entry is singing "The world is ours"0
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I still have a bottle of pisco (aptly named) that I brought back from Peru a few years ago. I pretty much lived on pisco sours when I was there. Somehow they didn't taste the same when I tried to recreate the magic.antifrank said:Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.
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It's OK, Natalie's EnglishTheScreamingEagles said:Anyone else disturbed that the German entry is singing "The world is ours"
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@TSE cheer up, it wasn't "Tomorrow belongs to me".0
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"My contention is that most Tory losses will be in safe seats - rural, Southern. The question is what happens in the Northern marginals. Perhaps they could threaten Labour's vote (through an appeal to disaffected/tactical Tories, NOTA and disaffected Labour?)"
For the Conservatives to get an overall majority in 2020 they'll need to win constituencies such as Morley, Grimsby, Wakefield, Penistone, Scunthorpe and Don Valley in Yorkshire.
Their problem is that these are places where UKIP were already picking up votes in 2010 and will strengthen in any case by absorbing ex BNP and EDP voters plus disaffected Conservatives.
So when Labour loses wwc support its likely to go direct to UKIP who will overtake the Conservatives in these areas.
The Conservatives need to find a way to appeal to private sector wwc voters - there simply isn't enough private sector middle class voters for them to win a majority on that support alone.
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So was Lord Haw Haw.Sunil_Prasannan said:
It's OK, Natalie's EnglishTheScreamingEagles said:Anyone else disturbed that the German entry is singing "The world is ours"
Oh crap, I've just enacted Godwin's law.0 -
'Bought a Bonnie Tyler Sat Nav for our police car. Big mistake - it kept telling us to 'turn around' and every now and then it fell apart...' solihullpolice0
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Mate, I cleared that out the last time I felt like this. I ended up drinking a a small bottle of "champagne" that some cheapskate bought me for my 40th.antifrank said:Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.
I do have a bottle of Gordon and Macphail 30 year malt that I have wrapped up, as a present for a member of my Watch that retires next week. It cost 110 quid. I'm thinking I open it carefully, drink it, and then top it up with Bells or something.
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Tny Iommi wrote Armenia's song?
Sadly not quite "faries wear boots" though better guitar riff than most europop.0 -
Get your irony meters out.
The man who helped topple a Tory PM because of Europe says
Tory party out of control over Europe, says Lord Howe
Former chancellor launches scathing attack on David Cameron and says Euroscepticism is 'infecting party soul'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/18/tory-party-europe-lord-howe0 -
TSE, preferable to the Horst Wessel Song.0
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@TwistedFireStopper Crap days are the days to drink the good stuff if you have it in stock. I'd go for it.0
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A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.0
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Changes from last opinium
Tories minus 1
Labour plus 2
UKIP plus 3
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Well, attacking Cameron will certainly calm things down then.TheScreamingEagles said:Get your irony meters out.
The man who helped topple a Tory PM because of Europe says
Tory party out of control over Europe, says Lord Howe
Former chancellor launches scathing attack on David Cameron and says Euroscepticism is 'infecting party soul'
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/18/tory-party-europe-lord-howe
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Opinium/The Sunil on Sunday:TheScreamingEagles said:A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.
Tory/UKIP 47%
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The Netherlands singer looks like a hamster on heroin. And sings like one too.0
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best bet for nul points?antifrank said:The Netherlands singer looks like a hamster on heroin. And sings like one too.
Now the Romanian vampires.
Nigel, be very afraid!
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Is this 'Star Trek:the musical'?0
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Romania's entry is like Ming the Merciless meets Tiny Tim.0
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" ICM poll in the Sunday Telegraph. They don’t have normal voting intention (instead having the ICM wisdom index thingy that asks people to predict the shares of the vote rather than ask how they themselves would vote – the figures this month are Conservative 29%, Labour 32%, Lib Dem 16%, UKIP 15%)"
http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/7463
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3.5 points to crossover, new record i think.TheScreamingEagles said:A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.
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I've gone for the Sauv B ( no Ribena, but I do have Vimto cordial.Cheers, tim) )In a pint glass.
I may be gone some time.
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Bonnie on now!!
Romania was hilarious - good song though, why did he sing it in such a high key???0 -
"44 per cent want an “in/out” referendum immediately, although 29 per cent are prepared to wait until 2017"
ICM/Sunday Telegraph.0 -
I did warn on my thread that this Romanian entry was sooooo Eurovision.0
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Ouch. The odds on us coming last have just shortened considerably.
Bad choice.0 -
Bonnie - Not too bad a song at all!0
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48% of the electorate vote for the centre-right. I've got the popcorn in to watch POB Lefties wriggle out of that one. Best remark so far is,"the need for a socially conservative Left". Good luck with making that manifest.0
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Bonnie Tyler looks drunk. But I'd need a drink before I stepped on stage to perform that song.0
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UKIP seem to be squeezing the LDs. Is this a 3rd party, biggest-little-fish premium?0
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Pity the Montenegro rapping astronauts didnt make it though. Truly astonishing in so many ways.TheScreamingEagles said:I did warn on my thread that this Romanian entry was sooooo Eurovision.
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They would have been up there with last year's Russian Granniesfoxinsoxuk said:
Pity the Montenegro rapping astronauts didnt make it though. Truly astonishing in so many ways.TheScreamingEagles said:I did warn on my thread that this Romanian entry was sooooo Eurovision.
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I'm watching this from Hungary, and I can't find it in my heart to find anything nice to say about this. If I wanted to see some Shoreditch hipsters, I'd have stayed at home.0
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That is going to be hilarious. :-)MrJones said:
3.5 points to crossover, new record i think.TheScreamingEagles said:A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.
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Hungary even better with the lyrics translated by the red button.0
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Danish girl looks alright 0
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Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.0
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So far for me it's been:
1) Denmark
2) Estonia
3) Romania (in a car crash sort of way)0 -
Steady boy! Ukraine still to come.Sunil_Prasannan said:Danish girl looks alright
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Yeah, can't wait for the loon guy (or gal) to be outed.anotherDave said:
That is going to be hilarious. :-)MrJones said:
3.5 points to crossover, new record i think.TheScreamingEagles said:A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.
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Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!dodrade said:Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.
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Someone's dragged a comb through 'The Dude's' hair I see.0
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The antifrank vote has just gone to Azerbaijan. The song is entirely incidental.0
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I'm sure we'll get a Tory MP or three sayingantifrank said:The antifrank vote has just gone to Azerbaijan. The song is entirely incidental.
Bloody gays ruining Eurovision.
Should gays be allowed to vote in Eurovision.0 -
*speechless*0
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This Greek entry is camper than a row of pink tents.0
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You'll be pleased to know this afternoon I worked out how to get in some Shamen references into a future nighthawks thread.Carola said:*speechless*
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Greece losing the muslim vote but gaining twistedfirestopper?0
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Alcohol is free LOL!0
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It epitomises the Greek attitude to economics.0
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Denmarks looks alright, Ukraine looks OKfoxinsoxuk said:
Steady boy! Ukraine still to come.Sunil_Prasannan said:Danish girl looks alright
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Another good night for UKIP.
Another lousy Eurovision Farce.
There's a dichotomy in there somewhere, if only I could find it.
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But the bookies think it's no good.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!dodrade said:Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.
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The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!MikeK said:Another good night for UKIP.
Another lousy Eurovision Farce.
There's a dichotomy in there somewhere, if only I could find it.0 -
*resists spoiler opportunities*. Marvellous!TheScreamingEagles said:
You'll be pleased to know this afternoon I worked out how to get in some Shamen references into a future nighthawks thread.Carola said:*speechless*
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Oh, it won't get anywhere near winning but could have been so much worse!dodrade said:
But the bookies think it's no good.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!dodrade said:Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.
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Ukraine has two big advantages: the looks of its singer and her voice. The song is pretty average, but that probably won't matter (though strictly that's what the competition is about).0
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Ukraine is a looker. I will say that.0
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Relax, my young Padawan! It's officially just "Ukraine".TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
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IIRC it is just "Ukraine", and only The Gambia and The Bahamas have "The" in their actual name.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-182338440 -
What's this bettim said:Socrates said:If UKIP keep these numbers up, it looks like we could transition to a three party system.
Il offer you £100 at evens that UKIP get fewer seats that Sinn Fein, the DUP or the SNP
Was the groundwork for these polls done before or after Farage lost all credibility over the Scotland nonsense?!
Pahahaha!!!!!!!0 -
But in the World at War, Sir Laurence kept on calling it The Ukraine.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Relax, my young Padawan! It's officially just "Ukraine".TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Telegraph fp - still being coy from what I can read:
https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/335859365036822528/photo/10 -
But why is that?
Likewise the Sudan.0 -
Poor Bonnie is now clear second favourite to come last.0
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"The Ukraine" is incorrect both grammatically and politically, says Oksana Kyzyma of the Embassy of Ukraine in London.TheScreamingEagles said:
"Ukraine is both the conventional short and long name of the country," she says. "This name is stated in the Ukrainian Declaration of Independence and Constitution."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18233844
A shame - I'd hoped it was a question to which there was no clear answer. Maybe some places we refer to as 'the x' as they used to not be independent/used to be a region not a country, and so it hasn't caught on yet.
Except the Bahamas and The Gambia, which it is official for apparently.0 -
It's got to be Greece, surely.
Bonnie T must have had some very good producers in the 80s.0 -
That was exactly my point. In the past people have criticised the Tories for not tactical voting (although arguably they had no option if they figured out the Libs were just diluted Labour which is what so many of them seem to be).another_richard said:
So when Labour loses wwc support its likely to go direct to UKIP who will overtake the Conservatives in these areas.
Perhaps we could see wholesale Tory voting for UKIP in the Northern marginals - and a shock result for Labour. A regional split like that may not be the worst thing for the right.0 -
Yebbut that was some 40 years ago, and Ukraine wasn't independent yet.TheScreamingEagles said:
But in the World at War, Sir Laurence kept on calling it The Ukraine.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Relax, my young Padawan! It's officially just "Ukraine".TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
Another dirge from Italy. Will the agony never end?
@Sunil_Prasannan
The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!
The question is do we want to? Only You and TSE seem to enjoy this muck.
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Norway have the best song by some way so far. That, of course, counts for little.0
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Get your local Indian takeway to delivery some papadums and Tiger.TwistedFireStopper said:
Mate, I cleared that out the last time I felt like this. I ended up drinking a a small bottle of "champagne" that some cheapskate bought me for my 40th.antifrank said:Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.
I do have a bottle of Gordon and Macphail 30 year malt that I have wrapped up, as a present for a member of my Watch that retires next week. It cost 110 quid. I'm thinking I open it carefully, drink it, and then top it up with Bells or something.0 -
Picking big names but giving them average songs, we need somehow to get the balance right.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Oh, it won't get anywhere near winning but could have been so much worse!dodrade said:
But the bookies think it's no good.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!dodrade said:Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.
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You really are a grumpy old man, millions watch this.MikeK said:Another dirge from Italy. Will the agony never end?
@Sunil_Prasannan
The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!
The question is do we want to? Only You and TSE seem to enjoy this muck.
During my first stint as guest editor, my eurovision thread was the most viewed thread, it was more popular than an Ed is crap thread.0 -
What's not to enjoy in a night of cheesiness and shared national shame at each others' silliness? Brings people together, and let's us all laugh at, rather than snipe at, each other. The mysterious threats of eastern and south eastern europe are less scary when you see how silly they can be.MikeK said:Another dirge from Italy. Will the agony never end?
@Sunil_Prasannan
The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!
The question is do we want to? Only You and TSE seem to enjoy this muck.
In all seriousness, it can be a slog, and I usually just flick through the next day to see if there were some catchy tunes or funny moments, but it's still nice to see some weird and silly stuff, and to get overly angry at regional block voting.
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Kle4/Sunil thanks for the answer re The Ukraine.0
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"Get the balance right" - was the Depeche Mode reference was intentional?dodrade said:
Picking big names but giving them average songs, we need somehow to get the balance right.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Oh, it won't get anywhere near winning but could have been so much worse!dodrade said:
But the bookies think it's no good.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!dodrade said:Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.
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I live for such a moment. Unfortunately.TheScreamingEagles said:Kle4/Sunil thanks for the answer re The Ukraine.
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