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  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    I thought the Estonian lady both looked and sang beautifully! But Belarus looks OK too!
  • Has the detoxifying of the centre-right [the Cameroonian Conservatives] enabled the shrinkage of the centre-left [LibDems] and the Magic Money Tree left [EdM's Labour]? It's certainly damaged the electoral prospects of the centre-right.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Malta wins prize for lyrics: got risk assessment in. Better even than the lithuanian singing about his shoes named love and pain.
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Has Plato left PB ? I don't see her posts.
  • I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.

    Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    When the Maltese entrant started singing about Jeremy who works in IT, I thought it was going to take a much more interesting lyrical direction than in fact it took. Clearly the singer has never come across any Jeremies who work in IT (or alternatively, he might have done and be trying to maintain proprieties all round in an otherwise socially conservative society).
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.

    Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?

    Even bad sauvignon blanc is a better bet than aftershave.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746

    I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.

    Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?

    Have you checked the kitchen cupboard for cooking sherry?
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    Oh, good news ! Ennis gets married !!
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805

    I've had the day from Hell at work. Just cycled home to find that the Mrs will be at work until Midnight and the kids are stopping at Granny's, so I'm on my own. I've been on a health kick, and so have run down the contents of my beer fridge. I fancy a drink. The Wife has a good supply of Sauvignon Blanc, but I don't like it. There was one bottle of Corona in the fridge. I've downed it. The village garage shop is closed, the Wife has the car, and I don't fancy cycling 6 miles with a case of whatever the shop in the next village has on my crossbar.

    Is drinking perfume or aftershave any serious hazard to health?

    You don't have a stash of 'Christmassy tipples' that you never drink because they're disgusting? That's what I turn to in an emergency.

  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    Cascada on now!
  • surbitonsurbiton Posts: 13,549
    These Kiwis are far better than their No.8 rating !
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    The dancefloor has just been evacuated.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,253
    surbiton said:

    These Kiwis are far better than their No.8 rating !

    Kiwis are masters of punching above their weight.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    Anyone else disturbed that the German entry is singing "The world is ours"
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    antifrank said:

    Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.

    I still have a bottle of pisco (aptly named) that I brought back from Peru a few years ago. I pretty much lived on pisco sours when I was there. Somehow they didn't taste the same when I tried to recreate the magic.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963

    Anyone else disturbed that the German entry is singing "The world is ours"

    It's OK, Natalie's English :)

  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    @TSE cheer up, it wasn't "Tomorrow belongs to me".
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 26,658
    "My contention is that most Tory losses will be in safe seats - rural, Southern. The question is what happens in the Northern marginals. Perhaps they could threaten Labour's vote (through an appeal to disaffected/tactical Tories, NOTA and disaffected Labour?)"

    For the Conservatives to get an overall majority in 2020 they'll need to win constituencies such as Morley, Grimsby, Wakefield, Penistone, Scunthorpe and Don Valley in Yorkshire.

    Their problem is that these are places where UKIP were already picking up votes in 2010 and will strengthen in any case by absorbing ex BNP and EDP voters plus disaffected Conservatives.

    So when Labour loses wwc support its likely to go direct to UKIP who will overtake the Conservatives in these areas.

    The Conservatives need to find a way to appeal to private sector wwc voters - there simply isn't enough private sector middle class voters for them to win a majority on that support alone.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774

    Anyone else disturbed that the German entry is singing "The world is ours"

    It's OK, Natalie's English :)

    So was Lord Haw Haw.

    Oh crap, I've just enacted Godwin's law.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    'Bought a Bonnie Tyler Sat Nav for our police car. Big mistake - it kept telling us to 'turn around' and every now and then it fell apart...' solihullpolice
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    antifrank said:

    @TSE cheer up, it wasn't "Tomorrow belongs to me".

    I'm always cheered up watching Eurovision.
  • antifrank said:

    Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.

    Mate, I cleared that out the last time I felt like this. I ended up drinking a a small bottle of "champagne" that some cheapskate bought me for my 40th.

    I do have a bottle of Gordon and Macphail 30 year malt that I have wrapped up, as a present for a member of my Watch that retires next week. It cost 110 quid. I'm thinking I open it carefully, drink it, and then top it up with Bells or something.

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Tny Iommi wrote Armenia's song?

    Sadly not quite "faries wear boots" though better guitar riff than most europop.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    Get your irony meters out.

    The man who helped topple a Tory PM because of Europe says

    Tory party out of control over Europe, says Lord Howe

    Former chancellor launches scathing attack on David Cameron and says Euroscepticism is 'infecting party soul'

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/18/tory-party-europe-lord-howe
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 37,415
    TSE, preferable to the Horst Wessel Song.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    @TwistedFireStopper Crap days are the days to drink the good stuff if you have it in stock. I'd go for it.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    Changes from last opinium

    Tories minus 1

    Labour plus 2

    UKIP plus 3

    LD minus 2
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,253

    Get your irony meters out.

    The man who helped topple a Tory PM because of Europe says

    Tory party out of control over Europe, says Lord Howe

    Former chancellor launches scathing attack on David Cameron and says Euroscepticism is 'infecting party soul'

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/may/18/tory-party-europe-lord-howe

    Well, attacking Cameron will certainly calm things down then.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963

    A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.

    Opinium/The Sunil on Sunday:

    Tory/UKIP 47%
    Progressives 44%
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    The Netherlands singer looks like a hamster on heroin. And sings like one too.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    antifrank said:

    The Netherlands singer looks like a hamster on heroin. And sings like one too.

    best bet for nul points?

    Now the Romanian vampires.

    Nigel, be very afraid!

  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Is this 'Star Trek:the musical'?
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Romania's entry is like Ming the Merciless meets Tiny Tim.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    edited May 2013
    " ICM poll in the Sunday Telegraph. They don’t have normal voting intention (instead having the ICM wisdom index thingy that asks people to predict the shares of the vote rather than ask how they themselves would vote – the figures this month are Conservative 29%, Labour 32%, Lib Dem 16%, UKIP 15%)"

    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/7463

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/active/10066273/Lets-quit-EU-say-46-per-cent-of-voters-in-poll.html
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.

    3.5 points to crossover, new record i think.
  • I've gone for the Sauv B ( no Ribena, but I do have Vimto cordial.Cheers, tim) )In a pint glass.
    I may be gone some time.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    edited May 2013
    Bonnie on now!!

    Romania was hilarious - good song though, why did he sing it in such a high key???
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    tim said:

    Are these Romanians the ones who are going live in Nigel Farages garden?
    No wonder he's scared.
    This one sounds like Osborne circa 2006

    Lol.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    edited May 2013
    "44 per cent want an “in/out” referendum immediately, although 29 per cent are prepared to wait until 2017"

    ICM/Sunday Telegraph.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    I did warn on my thread that this Romanian entry was sooooo Eurovision.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    edited May 2013
    Ouch. The odds on us coming last have just shortened considerably.

    Bad choice.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    Bonnie - Not too bad a song at all!
  • 48% of the electorate vote for the centre-right. I've got the popcorn in to watch POB Lefties wriggle out of that one. Best remark so far is,"the need for a socially conservative Left". Good luck with making that manifest.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Bonnie Tyler looks drunk. But I'd need a drink before I stepped on stage to perform that song.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    UKIP seem to be squeezing the LDs. Is this a 3rd party, biggest-little-fish premium?
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    I did warn on my thread that this Romanian entry was sooooo Eurovision.

    Pity the Montenegro rapping astronauts didnt make it though. Truly astonishing in so many ways.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774

    I did warn on my thread that this Romanian entry was sooooo Eurovision.

    Pity the Montenegro rapping astronauts didnt make it though. Truly astonishing in so many ways.
    They would have been up there with last year's Russian Grannies

  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    I'm watching this from Hungary, and I can't find it in my heart to find anything nice to say about this. If I wanted to see some Shoreditch hipsters, I'd have stayed at home.
  • anotherDaveanotherDave Posts: 6,746
    MrJones said:

    A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.

    3.5 points to crossover, new record i think.
    That is going to be hilarious. :-)

  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Hungary even better with the lyrics translated by the red button.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    Danish girl looks alright :)
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 597
    Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    So far for me it's been:

    1) Denmark
    2) Estonia
    3) Romania (in a car crash sort of way)
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    Danish girl looks alright :)

    Steady boy! Ukraine still to come.
  • MrJonesMrJones Posts: 3,523

    MrJones said:

    A new Opinium/Observer poll has Ukip attracting 20% of the vote, with Labour on 37%, the Conservatives on 27% and the Liberal Democrats down to 7%.

    3.5 points to crossover, new record i think.
    That is going to be hilarious. :-)

    Yeah, can't wait for the loon guy (or gal) to be outed.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    dodrade said:

    Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.

    Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    edited May 2013
    Someone's dragged a comb through 'The Dude's' hair I see.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    The antifrank vote has just gone to Azerbaijan. The song is entirely incidental.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    antifrank said:

    The antifrank vote has just gone to Azerbaijan. The song is entirely incidental.

    I'm sure we'll get a Tory MP or three saying

    Bloody gays ruining Eurovision.

    Should gays be allowed to vote in Eurovision.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    *speechless*
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    This Greek entry is camper than a row of pink tents.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    Carola said:

    *speechless*

    You'll be pleased to know this afternoon I worked out how to get in some Shamen references into a future nighthawks thread.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548
    Greece losing the muslim vote but gaining twistedfirestopper?
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    It epitomises the Greek attitude to economics.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    Alcohol is free LOL!
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    tim said:

    I'm on Greece e/w without Denmark at big odds.

    That's a decent bet. Greece could do well.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963

    Danish girl looks alright :)

    Steady boy! Ukraine still to come.
    Denmarks looks alright, Ukraine looks OK :)
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Another good night for UKIP.
    Another lousy Eurovision Farce.
    There's a dichotomy in there somewhere, if only I could find it. ;)
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 597

    dodrade said:

    Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.

    Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!
    But the bookies think it's no good.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    MikeK said:

    Another good night for UKIP.
    Another lousy Eurovision Farce.
    There's a dichotomy in there somewhere, if only I could find it. ;)

    The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    dodrade said:

    dodrade said:

    Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.

    Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!
    But the bookies think it's no good.
    Oh, it won't get anywhere near winning but could have been so much worse!
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805

    Carola said:

    *speechless*

    You'll be pleased to know this afternoon I worked out how to get in some Shamen references into a future nighthawks thread.
    *resists spoiler opportunities*. Marvellous!
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Ukraine has two big advantages: the looks of its singer and her voice. The song is pretty average, but that probably won't matter (though strictly that's what the competition is about).
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Ukraine is a looker. I will say that.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    edited May 2013
    tim said:

    @Pong

    And I just granted the Ukraine accession status after enlargement.

    We can't let Ukraine into the EU until someone tells me if it is "The Ukraine" or just plain "Ukraine"
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    edited May 2013

    tim said:

    @Pong

    And I just granted the Ukraine accession status after enlargement.

    We can't let Ukraine into the EU until someone tells me if it is "The Ukraine" or just plain "Ukraine"
    Relax, my young Padawan! It's officially just "Ukraine".
  • QuincelQuincel Posts: 4,042
    IIRC it is just "Ukraine", and only The Gambia and The Bahamas have "The" in their actual name.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18233844
  • samonipadsamonipad Posts: 182
    tim said:

    Socrates said:

    If UKIP keep these numbers up, it looks like we could transition to a three party system.


    Il offer you £100 at evens that UKIP get fewer seats that Sinn Fein, the DUP or the SNP
    What's this bet

    Was the groundwork for these polls done before or after Farage lost all credibility over the Scotland nonsense?!


    Pahahaha!!!!!!!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774

    tim said:

    @Pong

    And I just granted the Ukraine accession status after enlargement.

    We can't let Ukraine into the EU until someone tells me if it is "The Ukraine" or just plain "Ukraine"
    Relax, my young Padawan! It's officially just "Ukraine".
    But in the World at War, Sir Laurence kept on calling it The Ukraine.
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805
    Telegraph fp - still being coy from what I can read:
    https://twitter.com/suttonnick/status/335859365036822528/photo/1
  • Morris_DancerMorris_Dancer Posts: 61,850
    But why is that?

    Likewise the Sudan.
  • PongPong Posts: 4,693
    Poor Bonnie is now clear second favourite to come last.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,253
    edited May 2013

    tim said:

    @Pong

    And I just granted the Ukraine accession status after enlargement.

    We can't let Ukraine into the EU until someone tells me if it is "The Ukraine" or just plain "Ukraine"
    "The Ukraine" is incorrect both grammatically and politically, says Oksana Kyzyma of the Embassy of Ukraine in London.

    "Ukraine is both the conventional short and long name of the country," she says. "This name is stated in the Ukrainian Declaration of Independence and Constitution."


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18233844

    A shame - I'd hoped it was a question to which there was no clear answer. Maybe some places we refer to as 'the x' as they used to not be independent/used to be a region not a country, and so it hasn't caught on yet.

    Except the Bahamas and The Gambia, which it is official for apparently.
  • SouthamObserverSouthamObserver Posts: 39,667
    It's got to be Greece, surely.

    Bonnie T must have had some very good producers in the 80s.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758



    So when Labour loses wwc support its likely to go direct to UKIP who will overtake the Conservatives in these areas.

    That was exactly my point. In the past people have criticised the Tories for not tactical voting (although arguably they had no option if they figured out the Libs were just diluted Labour which is what so many of them seem to be).

    Perhaps we could see wholesale Tory voting for UKIP in the Northern marginals - and a shock result for Labour. A regional split like that may not be the worst thing for the right.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963

    tim said:

    @Pong

    And I just granted the Ukraine accession status after enlargement.

    We can't let Ukraine into the EU until someone tells me if it is "The Ukraine" or just plain "Ukraine"
    Relax, my young Padawan! It's officially just "Ukraine".
    But in the World at War, Sir Laurence kept on calling it The Ukraine.
    Yebbut that was some 40 years ago, and Ukraine wasn't independent yet.
  • MikeKMikeK Posts: 9,053
    Another dirge from Italy. Will the agony never end?

    @Sunil_Prasannan
    The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!

    The question is do we want to? Only You and TSE seem to enjoy this muck.
  • AlastairMeeksAlastairMeeks Posts: 30,340
    Norway have the best song by some way so far. That, of course, counts for little.
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    antifrank said:

    Have you checked the house for the usual obscure bottle of Spanish liqueur that mysteriously has hung around since 1994? It might be worth trying it.

    Mate, I cleared that out the last time I felt like this. I ended up drinking a a small bottle of "champagne" that some cheapskate bought me for my 40th.

    I do have a bottle of Gordon and Macphail 30 year malt that I have wrapped up, as a present for a member of my Watch that retires next week. It cost 110 quid. I'm thinking I open it carefully, drink it, and then top it up with Bells or something.

    Get your local Indian takeway to delivery some papadums and Tiger.
  • dodradedodrade Posts: 597

    dodrade said:

    dodrade said:

    Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.

    Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!
    But the bookies think it's no good.
    Oh, it won't get anywhere near winning but could have been so much worse!
    Picking big names but giving them average songs, we need somehow to get the balance right.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    MikeK said:

    Another dirge from Italy. Will the agony never end?

    @Sunil_Prasannan
    The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!

    The question is do we want to? Only You and TSE seem to enjoy this muck.

    You really are a grumpy old man, millions watch this.

    During my first stint as guest editor, my eurovision thread was the most viewed thread, it was more popular than an Ed is crap thread.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,253
    edited May 2013
    MikeK said:

    Another dirge from Italy. Will the agony never end?

    @Sunil_Prasannan
    The big advantage to Eurovision, Mike, is that we can still participate even if we leave the EU!

    The question is do we want to? Only You and TSE seem to enjoy this muck.

    What's not to enjoy in a night of cheesiness and shared national shame at each others' silliness? Brings people together, and let's us all laugh at, rather than snipe at, each other. The mysterious threats of eastern and south eastern europe are less scary when you see how silly they can be.

    In all seriousness, it can be a slog, and I usually just flick through the next day to see if there were some catchy tunes or funny moments, but it's still nice to see some weird and silly stuff, and to get overly angry at regional block voting.
  • samonipadsamonipad Posts: 182
    edited May 2013
    antifrank said:

    Norway have the best song by some way so far. That, of course, counts for little.

    And the singer was cute

    But what's this?

    ugh!

    I can't have Georgia on my mind
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,774
    Kle4/Sunil thanks for the answer re The Ukraine.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,963
    edited May 2013
    dodrade said:

    dodrade said:

    dodrade said:

    Don't worry Sunil, we will will Eurovision again one day, it's just a question of time.

    Hi Dodrade, well I did say "not too bad a song"!
    But the bookies think it's no good.
    Oh, it won't get anywhere near winning but could have been so much worse!
    Picking big names but giving them average songs, we need somehow to get the balance right.
    "Get the balance right" - was the Depeche Mode reference was intentional?

    :)

    Hopefully next year it won't be a closed selection but open to a nationwide televote.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,253

    Kle4/Sunil thanks for the answer re The Ukraine.

    I live for such a moment. Unfortunately.
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