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The establishment cost PBers a 250/1 winner – politicalbetting.com
The establishment cost PBers a 250/1 winner – politicalbetting.com
Side note – this is the same Cabinet Secretary who has decided 'Leaky Sue' isn't worth investigating?
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Astonishing story.
@TSE is right to be so angry. Like Braverman's appointment, this is a disgrace.
I agree with your main point, though. A complete disaster for our national security.
Why do the tories not take this shit seriously?
A) The fact it leaked. By who? What is the agenda?
B ) It’s highly unlikely to be the only successful government hack.
C) The govt line that it doesn’t comment on this kind of thing will only feed the beast.
D) (related to b)) Cumming’s comments re: Braverman indicates a casual approach to sensitive information across government.
I think this will run and run.
Rishi Sunak accepted cash (£141,000) from fossil fuel investors in campaign to become PM
Donations from supporters with links to oil and gas helped fund new Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's Ready4Rishi leadership campaign - as he says he's too busy to attend the COP27 climate summit in Egypt
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/rishi-sunak-accepted-cash-fossil-28361452
I'm afraid that I'm beginning to think Rishi is yet another sleaze bag.
When the press start getting their knives out, which they will, his ratings will plummet. This COP27 boycott is pretty disgusting in the context.
The only post in cabinet which might have been relevant, environment Secretary, is now occupied by the distinctly uninterested Coffey.
That's a pretty strong declaration of intent, and not in a good way.
And the lack of interest of some of the 'liberal' media.
https://mobile.twitter.com/jesseltaylor/status/1586496754408644608
Pretty sure the NYT will end up having devoted more time and resources to Sarah Huckabee Sanders being asked to leave a restaurant than an assassination attempt on the Speaker of the House
So it's not just those with the 250/1 bets who lost out.
https://mobile.twitter.com/HeartlandSignal/status/1570447074252197892
Betting PostF1: backed Hamilton to lead lap 1 at 5.25.
https://enormo-haddock.blogspot.com/2022/10/mexico-pre-race-2022.html
The latest, highly plausible, rumour doing the rounds is that they plan to extend the freeze on income tax thresholds for an additional two years, so as to try to turn as many people of working age as possible into higher rate income tax payers. I'm frankly astonished that they've not unpicked the Truss repeal of the Health and Social Care Levy to boot - although I imagine that NI rises will also be back, in one form or another, before very much longer.
The Conservative Party exists for one purpose and one purpose only: the redistribution of wealth upwards. What have, amongst other things, defence, security, the environment and schooling to do with that? Why should we expect them to care about any of it? They don't. End of story.
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-unleashes-mass-kamikaze-drone-boat-attack-on-russias-black-sea-fleet-headquarters
"And two businessmen linked to a wealth management fund that invests in the oil and gas sectors made donations of £30,000."
A pathetic non-story, because who doesn't have shares in BP? You do if you have a pension or a ftse100 tracker or a mainstream investment trust or quite possibly a direct holding.
My contempt for a press which publishes this sort of drivel and simultaneously sits on stories about Truss is unbounded.
https://twitter.com/lktranslator/status/1586484150751891461?s=46&t=e5E0AjRiCaRH3tk1QxwTIA
At the most recent meeting of the shadow cabinet, Sir Keir Starmer warned his colleagues to expect a significant Tory bounce in the polls…. says one senior Labour frontbencher: “I think we’ll get back to where we were four or five months ago.” If she’s correct, Tory morale ought to improve and some Labour people will get windy. [And] “We’ve got to be careful that we don’t look like we’re willing him to fail.”
The shrewder people in Labour’s ranks grasp that their framing of Mr Sunak can’t be identical to the narratives they told about feckless Mr Johnson and reckless Ms Truss. The new Tory leader is a different character and Labour won’t do itself any favours by pretending otherwise. [Labour does] not want to repeat what happened under Neil Kinnock in the early 1990s when Labour thought it had mastered how to beat Margaret Thatcher only then to founder when the Tories replaced her with John Major.
Character attacks can backfire by negatively defining the attacker. Lambasting him as Rishi the Rich will be a bad idea for Sir Keir’s party if it makes Labour seem anti-aspirational and hostile to success. Labour strategists say that what comes up in their focus groups is “everything from the designer clothes to the expensive coffee cup to not knowing how to use a debit card in a petrol station”.
A critical priority for Labour is to thwart Mr Sunak’s attempts to represent himself as a new broom. “We cannot possibly allow him to present himself as the change we need,” says a senior member of Sir Keir’s team. “We’ve got to pin the Tory record on him.”
[Economic] Misery made in the Kremlin. Misery made in Downing Street. There you have the rival stories. Which of these narratives proves most compelling to the public will, more than anything else, determine who prevails.
This is so serious there surely has to be a criminal investigation regarding the Official Secrets Act. I am sure recklessly handling top secret information is an offence even if not deliberately leaking it, as is covering up such leaks.
Why are the current crop of top politicians so ignorant of these rules ? Is it that they were promoted too quickly and lost the sense of importance of these roles and that its not the individual in these roles that is important but the role itself?
Forgive me for having a few doubts. The Mail on Sunday is a newspaper you trust? Really? Where are the details that can be checked? It makes good copy, and no newspaper would turn it down, but when did you become so gullible.
Liz Truss was never my idea of an ideal PM, but a pinch of salt is required sometimes with our press. Next, you'll be believing that Putin always tells the truth.
One day Scottish Tory MSPs will learn that lesson.
This might be a consequence of the Russians throwing large numbers of recently mobilised soldiers into large-scale assaults.
https://mobile.twitter.com/GeneralStaffUA/status/1586621423379947520
I wonder who that was for.
There is literally no story here.
It's the third leak inquiry into the Home Sec this year.
https://twitter.com/thejonnyreilly/status/1586422183576109056?s=46&t=h95SjZmK99II4t_wyyjrHw
"Sky News and BBC have the story front page, and we are not seeing any denials."
They are reporting the newspaper story, and that there are calls for an inquiry, they are not backing the gist of the story. If there's any truth in it, I'll have to revise my view of the press.
So, there really was a red, London bus discovered on the moon?
Having seen what NZ did to Sri Lanka (as well as Australia) England are going to have to be at their absolute best to win that one. NZ look to me the form team in the tournament.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nick-clegg/10455206/Tories-ready-to-adopt-Nick-Cleggs-pledge-to-cut-income-tax-for-lower-earners.html
Yes they are reporting the story not its substance but no they wouldn't be doing that unless they thought it had legs. They would not be doing this about bus on the moon stories.
Oh wait. I think I know the answer to this one.
Europe’s security is being paid for by the UK and Poland and on a per capita basis Denmark and Estonia and Lithuania.
https://twitter.com/danielkorski/status/1586622730920673280
I don’t think all contraception will be banned throughout the US either… but the morning after pill? Contraceptive methods that are partially abortifacient? In certain states?
But this would hardly be ordinary police, would it? It would have to be something like Counter Terrorism Command.
The situation here is that it's not really possible to secure someone's Android phone or iPhone against an attacker with a sufficient budget, because with enough money you can buy exploits that nobody else yet even knows about. The normal solution is to compartmentalize, so they'd use one phone for stuff that doesn't need to be very secure and a different device for stuff that does. But compartmentalization is really hard to apply in practice, especially when the user is dealing with the same people for different purposes, and they have to remember to use this device to ask about the party and this other device to talk about the urgent issue they're going to have a meeting about before they go to the party.
I'm sure it doesn't help that Brexit and the general state of the Conservative Party has selected for con artists and dim-wits and they've literally kicked the other people out of the party, but the fundamental problem of securing communications without destroying productivity is genuinely hard.
Not safe to handle our security.
Time to get them out.
I just don’t think it will happen. There are serious, religious, political nuts out there in the states, but the tide of human progress is against them. See also Iran right now.
If you don't think Griswold is in the GOP sights you haven't been paying attention to the most trad fascist members of the Supreme Court have been publicly saying.
Griswold was only 1965, there are people very much alive today who lived in a USA where the purchase of contraception was illegal
There is an ugly strain of leftwing thinking that posits that having Conservative values is not really compatible with being brown or black. It is most evident in the Labour MP Rupa Huq’s comment last month that the former chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng is only “superficially black” (for which she has since apologised). This is not an isolated instance; in 2019, a Labour candidate said that Sajid Javid, then home secretary, “definitely orders lemon and herb Nando’s” in response to the jibe he “100% cooks boil-in-the-bag rice”; a modern version of the old “coconut” insult that he isn’t truly Asian.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/oct/30/rishi-sunak-politics-wretched-but-as-british-indian-i-see-why-his-rise-to-top-matters
Get it out!!
So Slovenia transfer a bunch of M-55S (shite tank but Ukraine will take it) and Germany then supply Slovenia with equipment as replacement.
I have been extremely shocked by the arrogance generally of the current crop of high office holders (not in policy proposals - thats just politics ) but in their general arrogance - Kwasi Kwarteng was so full of self importance that he even could keep still and serious at the Queens Funeral ,seemingly checking his phone for instance, Boris of course started it with ignoring his own covid rules
Great article from The Times. Gives people a good background into the driving force of success for British Indians and Hindus. The UK could learn a lot from our cultural values, hopefully Rishi is able to impart some on the wider nation.
In case anyone doesn't want to read it, the three keys are education, family and education. In that order. Every single one of my cousins is degree educated and all of them work in higher professional jobs or own and run businesses. There's simply no option of failure given to us as kids, parental support in education, high expectations and ongoing support after university are key to all of us being successful. White British families could learn a lot.
Alternatively if you're going to lock down the work phone to the point where they can't use Whats App, and you can somehow force them to accept this despite the fact that they're nominally in charge of you not the other way around, they'll be instantly out-plotted and you'll have to start again with a new minister.
Here’s a US “pro-life” group taking aim at the Pill: https://www.hli.org/resources/abortifacient-brief-birth-control-pill/
Here’s a serious law article talking about the threat to some contraceptive methods: https://www.law.georgetown.edu/gender-journal/abortion-trigger-ban-statutes-impacts-on-plan-b-birth-control-and-ivf-treatments/
That doesn’t mean this is going to happen, but the “nuts” are in control of the Republican Party and they’re clear about the direction they want to go in.
But it is also significant that this leak seems to have been on a private phone. If there was top secret material on a private phone Truss would have been guilty of what Braverman resigned for. The blazing row that allegedly took place between her and Truss comes back to mind: sacking her for something that Braverman knew Truss had been equally guilty of would cause rancor. And given leaky Sue's reputation is this why the story is public now?
If there is truth in the story, I'm all in favour of it being investigated, and the miscreants punished. But you have to ask 'cui bono'. The newspaper gets publicity, and Truss's opponents gain traction, even if it's too late to affect anything.
It might turn out to be true, but evidence would be nice, rather than the words of someone with an axe to grind or newspapers to sell.
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Labour says the alleged hack raises “serious security questions” which need urgent investigation. Lib Dems questioning why the details were not made public earlier. Tobias Elwood, Tory Chair of Defence Committee, tells Sky News Intelligence & Security Committee should investigate
And we know there are at least three SC Justices who would vote to overturn Griswold - though for now I don’t think there would be more than four votes to do so. That could easily change under another Republican president.
Not enough to make up for the interest rate hit...
You may well discover there are *reasons* this story is being underplayed