Liz Truss’s investment zones “under review” by Gove as he draws red line on environment - Sky News
Giving in to RSPB England is wise.
In terms of “supply side reforms”, the Tories seem to have given up on fracking, planning reform, and now the investment zones.
Now, I’m skeptical of much of this, but I must admit I’m VERY depressed that the UK has just decided to press the “decline” button because everything else looks too scary.
£7m a DAY putting dinghy people in hotels. That’s £2.5 BILLION a year. Absolutely insane. We cannot afford this. We are broke. It’s time to grow a pain of cullions, tell the lefty lawyers to fuck off, leave the ECHR, change the law on asylum, send these gaming gangsters back home to Tirana
If you Google "problems with asylum" you will get lots of hits from NGO, UN and think-tank sites all saying how it isn't really a problem or we don't make it easy enough/take enough of them.
When people talk about libtard establishment conspiracy (which is overdone) this is the sort of thing that gives credence to it.
And it is also self harming. Sweden and Denmark now have far right parties in government, or near it, precisely because liberal elites purposely ignored or diminished a problem like this for far too long
The UK is not immune to this law of politics. Eventually the voters will enable a party that WILL tackle such a problem. And not in a way that pleases liberals
Why not, for once, get ahead of the curve?
Do you really think with FPTP that is likely here ? Surely it’s more likely the top two parties will get the majority of the seats but simply lose vote share.
No, what happens is that a fringe party exploits the issue until they are getting 10% of the vote and deeply damaging one of the main parties. Then the main party is forced to adopt the policy of the fringe party, to see off the threat
UKIP and Brexit is the classic example, of course
The main party could always call the extremists’ bluff, of course.
How does that work? That’s not how it works
The fringe party - by gaining a steady 10% of the vote - deprives the main party of many seats at an election. That’a not a bluff you can “call”
Sure it is. You make the case for what you believe in and you win or lose on that basis. If your values are flexible then sure, you can change your ideology. If your values are better defined you fight your ground.
Personally I prefer the latter type of politician. I'd rather lose an election than win on a program I disagreed with. Either way, it's a choice.
Theresa May tried to do this over social care costs, and ultimately lost her job.
Which is not to disagree with you, but the current media set up is profoundly hostile to such things.
£7m a DAY putting dinghy people in hotels. That’s £2.5 BILLION a year. Absolutely insane. We cannot afford this. We are broke. It’s time to grow a pain of cullions, tell the lefty lawyers to fuck off, leave the ECHR, change the law on asylum, send these gaming gangsters back home to Tirana
If you Google "problems with asylum" you will get lots of hits from NGO, UN and think-tank sites all saying how it isn't really a problem or we don't make it easy enough/take enough of them.
When people talk about libtard establishment conspiracy (which is overdone) this is the sort of thing that gives credence to it.
And it is also self harming. Sweden and Denmark now have far right parties in government, or near it, precisely because liberal elites purposely ignored or diminished a problem like this for far too long
The UK is not immune to this law of politics. Eventually the voters will enable a party that WILL tackle such a problem. And not in a way that pleases liberals
Why not, for once, get ahead of the curve?
Do you really think with FPTP that is likely here ? Surely it’s more likely the top two parties will get the majority of the seats but simply lose vote share.
No, what happens is that a fringe party exploits the issue until they are getting 10% of the vote and deeply damaging one of the main parties. Then the main party is forced to adopt the policy of the fringe party, to see off the threat
UKIP and Brexit is the classic example, of course
The main party could always call the extremists’ bluff, of course.
How does that work? That’s not how it works
The fringe party - by gaining a steady 10% of the vote - deprives the main party of many seats at an election. That’a not a bluff you can “call”
They infiltrate the main party from within ,e.g. Labour - Corbynites, Tories - ERG, SNP - Stonewall.
Bloody namby pamby Tofo-eating wokeraty remoaners. Just because the Secretary of State for the Foreign and Commonwealth and Development and no getting hacked by the KGB Office got her phone hacked by the KGB.
There is literally no story here.
Every senior politician gets their phones hacked. We do it to the Russians as well.
And the discovery should not have been disclosed to the public. Why would you do that?
The only issue is Ms Truss’s apparent carelessness when it comes to security. But there would be little to be gained from kicking her at this point. She’s done.
Liz Truss should face prosecution. We now know from her biography that she regarded ignoring Civil Service advice and breaching official protocols as nothing more than a jolly wheeze. This is negligence of the highest order. Anyone else would be looking at a prison term.
I remember way back in the days of the last Labour Government if a military attache lost a CD Rom containing classified information on the Clapham Omnibus or on the back seat of a Royal Navy staff car, which was later found abandoned on bricks in the Elephant and Castle, Conservative front bench Shadow Ministers were quite rightly demanding the heads of a Secretary of State or two. Now it seems it's OK over the last year or three, for the FS or HS to be grade A security risks.
£7m a DAY putting dinghy people in hotels. That’s £2.5 BILLION a year. Absolutely insane. We cannot afford this. We are broke. It’s time to grow a pain of cullions, tell the lefty lawyers to fuck off, leave the ECHR, change the law on asylum, send these gaming gangsters back home to Tirana
If you Google "problems with asylum" you will get lots of hits from NGO, UN and think-tank sites all saying how it isn't really a problem or we don't make it easy enough/take enough of them.
When people talk about libtard establishment conspiracy (which is overdone) this is the sort of thing that gives credence to it.
And it is also self harming. Sweden and Denmark now have far right parties in government, or near it, precisely because liberal elites purposely ignored or diminished a problem like this for far too long
The UK is not immune to this law of politics. Eventually the voters will enable a party that WILL tackle such a problem. And not in a way that pleases liberals
Why not, for once, get ahead of the curve?
It's the Tories who have been governing the UK for the last 12 years.
The Pelosi attack may not be the convenient “MAGA nutter” on first sight:
The media are portraying the suspect in the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband as a man fundamentally driven by right-wing ideology. But it's obvious to anyone who looks that what drove David DePape to violence was drug-induced paranoid psychosis.
Why would DePape decide to go after Pelosi? . Are we supposed to believe he just randomly chose her?
His postings do show he was a conspiracy theorist and Trump supporter who believed the big lie and thought journalists who refused to push the big lie should be dragged into the street and shot .
That’s not to say he wasn’t unhinged but there’s a desperate attempt by the GOP death cult to try and deflect from the fact they are partly culpable for what happened .
The Pelosi attack may not be the convenient “MAGA nutter” on first sight:
The media are portraying the suspect in the attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband as a man fundamentally driven by right-wing ideology. But it's obvious to anyone who looks that what drove David DePape to violence was drug-induced paranoid psychosis.
Thingvellir. Where two continents divorce and a chasm fills with tourists
Disappointing lack of attractive women. Your standards are slipping.
It’s too frigging cold to think about sex
Impressive place. Two mighty tectonic plates ripping apart - creating these deep dark lava rock ravines, where they used to hurl witches. Perfect
The only place in the world where a tectonic plate boundary is above a hot spot. Elsewhere, @Leon, you would be standing on the ocean floor.
And the only place which is also: an incredibly ancient Parliament, an execution ground, the site of a national religious conversion, the witch burning field, and a sacred pool where incestuous girls were put in weighted sacks and thrown in the geothermal water to drown
Maybe it's just me. But when I worked for the Civil Service, having signed the Official Secrets Act, I didn't find it at all difficult to make a clear distinction between my work phone and work email, and my private phone and private email.
It's really not difficult, unless a) you're a bit thick, or b) you're willfully breaking the rules. And if a) and/or b) apply, you shouldn't be in the job anyway.
The subjects overlap though in a way that yours probably didn’t
Let’s say the PM is chatting to the FS and Chief Whip about the political aspects of a development. They are doing it on their personal phones because you are not allowed to use governments devices for party matters. And they accidentally across the line forgetting which device they are on?
Perhaps we should soften the rules on senior ministers using work phones for party matters? Top up Short funding if you think it creates an unfair advantage
And we’re spending £7m a DAY to put Albanians in hotels. Fucking ridiculous
Send some to Rwanda and they will stop coming to England
"Albanians"
Yes, Albanians
“Home Office officials told the Home Affairs Committee the nationality of those crossing the Channel was changing, with Albanians now the biggest group“
What does that mean, though? They make up 8%, and it's 7% Somalis, 6% Afghans, 6% Eritreans, etc? They aren't all "Albanians".
“The Home Affairs Committee was told that "one to two percent" of the entire male population of Albania - around 10,000 men - arrived on small boats this year alone.”
Which I think even you described as an exaggeration*
*bollocks
The source is a UK government official- Dan O'Mahoney, who's the government's clandestine channel threat commander.
Why hasn't this fucker with the ridiculous job title been sacked?
Much to my astonishment and delight, my book 'LIFELINE' has just won in this year's British Medical Association medical book awards ('Good Medical Practice' category). The book analyses the reason's for the collapse of the NHS, and given how much health has become a political 'hot potato' might be of interest to readers of pb.com. Some of the book will make you laugh and some will reduce you to tears of rage. There were a few occasions when I was writing when I had to stop because I was so upset. It's available on Amazon, Waterstones, etc.
£7m a DAY putting dinghy people in hotels. That’s £2.5 BILLION a year. Absolutely insane. We cannot afford this. We are broke. It’s time to grow a pain of cullions, tell the lefty lawyers to fuck off, leave the ECHR, change the law on asylum, send these gaming gangsters back home to Tirana
Extraordinary that we are actually paying rack rate. Unless we aren’t and some journalist has actually just calculated the amount that rack rate would have cost
And we’re spending £7m a DAY to put Albanians in hotels. Fucking ridiculous
Send some to Rwanda and they will stop coming to England
"Albanians"
Yes, Albanians
“Home Office officials told the Home Affairs Committee the nationality of those crossing the Channel was changing, with Albanians now the biggest group“
What does that mean, though? They make up 8%, and it's 7% Somalis, 6% Afghans, 6% Eritreans, etc? They aren't all "Albanians".
“The Home Affairs Committee was told that "one to two percent" of the entire male population of Albania - around 10,000 men - arrived on small boats this year alone.”
Which I think even you described as an exaggeration*
*bollocks
The source is a UK government official- Dan O'Mahoney, who's the government's clandestine channel threat commander.
Why hasn't this fucker with the ridiculous job title been sacked?
And replace him with whom?
His hands are tied. All he can do in the job is ensure boats don't land unescorted.
Bloody namby pamby Tofo-eating wokeraty remoaners. Just because the Secretary of State for the Foreign and Commonwealth and Development and no getting hacked by the KGB Office got her phone hacked by the KGB.
There is literally no story here.
Every senior politician gets their phones hacked. We do it to the Russians as well.
And the discovery should not have been disclosed to the public. Why would you do that?
The only issue is Ms Truss’s apparent carelessness when it comes to security. But there would be little to be gained from kicking her at this point. She’s done.
If the public shouldn't know these things, why are you telling us?
I’m not telling you anything that a reasonably intelligent member of the public can’t figure out for themselves… oh…
And we’re spending £7m a DAY to put Albanians in hotels. Fucking ridiculous
Send some to Rwanda and they will stop coming to England
"Albanians"
Yes, Albanians
“Home Office officials told the Home Affairs Committee the nationality of those crossing the Channel was changing, with Albanians now the biggest group“
What does that mean, though? They make up 8%, and it's 7% Somalis, 6% Afghans, 6% Eritreans, etc? They aren't all "Albanians".
“The Home Affairs Committee was told that "one to two percent" of the entire male population of Albania - around 10,000 men - arrived on small boats this year alone.”
Which I think even you described as an exaggeration*
*bollocks
The source is a UK government official- Dan O'Mahoney, who's the government's clandestine channel threat commander.
Why hasn't this fucker with the ridiculous job title been sacked?
The clue is in his comedy surname. One step removed from Captain Darling.
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Now, I’m skeptical of much of this, but I must admit I’m VERY depressed that the UK has just decided to press the “decline” button because everything else looks too scary.
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Which is not to disagree with you, but the current media set up is profoundly hostile to such things.
As you were.
Why would DePape decide to go after Pelosi? . Are we supposed to believe he just randomly chose her?
His postings do show he was a conspiracy theorist and Trump supporter who believed the big lie and thought journalists who refused to push the big lie should be dragged into the street and shot .
That’s not to say he wasn’t unhinged but there’s a desperate attempt by the GOP death cult to try and deflect from the fact they are partly culpable for what happened .
Let’s say the PM is chatting to the FS and Chief Whip about the political aspects of a development. They are doing it on their personal phones because you are not allowed to use governments devices for party matters. And they accidentally across the line forgetting which device they are on?
Perhaps we should soften the rules on senior ministers using work phones for party matters? Top up Short funding if you think it creates an unfair advantage
“Some nutter wants to kill me” would give grounds for asylum far wider than originally intended
His hands are tied. All he can do in the job is ensure boats don't land unescorted.
He can do nothing else.
One step removed from Captain Darling.