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Just 30% of GE2019 CON voters say Truss would be “best PM” – politicalbetting.com
Just 30% of GE2019 CON voters say Truss would be “best PM” – politicalbetting.com
There is a new YouGov poll in which the Tory deficit behind Labour is now at 28% which is a touch better than last week.
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‘Liz Truss has two problems: she’s not liked and secondly she is regarded as incompetent’
-John Curtice
#bbcr4WATO
https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1580537607909691392
If it escalates to nuclear war, then we have our own nuclear weaponry and commitments if it comes to it, but I want to prevent that from happening.
You don't seem to be interested in deterring a nuclear war, which I find interesting.
https://twitter.com/nicholaswatt/status/1580517767299547136
@nicholaswatt I think the “we wouldn’t want to look silly by tomorrow” ship has somewhat sailed…
@marklubienski @nicholaswatt This is the ‘we wouldn’t want to look silly by tomorrow ship’. https://twitter.com/benhunt/status/1580525476661334017/photo/1
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/labour-mp-christina-rees-stripped-of-party-whip-after-bullying-allegations/ar-AA12US5s?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=b9c959e15d7a48098a3d39d338c11640
IT"S HOT: CORE CPI RISES BY *0.6%* MONTH OVER MONTH, WELL ABOVE EXPECTATIONS
HEADLINE CPI UP 8.2% YOY
FUTURES INSTANTLY TANK
Economists had been looking for a 0.4% MOM core number and a 0.2% increase on headline.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-12/global-stocks-under-pressure-ahead-of-us-cpi-markets-wrap?srnd=premium&sref=vuYGislZ https://twitter.com/TheStalwart/status/1580536609065168896/photo/1
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Yes, I read that from rcs1000 and I agree with it in general. Their prospects do seem to be poorer but then when I entered the world of work in the early eighties the same could have been said about my generation at the time. It did not work out that way.
I am also critical of is their view that every other generation had it easy and they are the only ones who have had a hard time. ]
100% agree. It's great fun on here reading the vitriol of milleniums about the easy life had by those before them. My first flat at 15k was a huge struggle to buy and afford with loan limits and interest rates sky high. Of course the furniture was shabby , second hand and not chic while the bare boards were down to no dosh for a carpet not a trendy cool vibe at all- actually quite cold in the winter. I could go on but the self-absorbed whingers aren't interested. How many years since anyone got a penny of interest on their savings so that people could have cheap mortgage rates?
Truss is clearly gone by Christmas and a new leader will go into a 'try and hold 200' strategy
Shitty stick days
🔥 https://twitter.com/samcoatessky/status/1580539484952612864
Nigel_Foremain said:
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I am delighted you are back. It reminds people just how small brained, juvenile, pathetic and thuggish the average follower of the man who was referred to as a "sex pest and objectionable bully" by his own QC actually are.
I bet you are going a bit gammon now eh Malc? Will you get complaints from the neighbours next door in your semi-detached bungalow as you start snarling and swearing and bursting out of your vest like an ugly overweight pale white incredible hulk? Will your long-suffering wife have to tell you to calm down and take another blood pressure pill, or is she not talking to you after you lost your pension money on the horses?
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LOL, confirms why I left for a while. Having to suffer morons like you is tough. Just trying to repeat my description of you is very tame and I chuckle at your poor perception skills. Too thick to read posts and understand the reality of posters due to your bigoted arrogance of mistakenly believing you are something special rather than something distasteful picked up on someone's shoe.
Just for guidance , there are no semi's where I reside and my wife encourages me to polish the porsche. Also I am well able to lose £5 on teh horse's now and again without bankrupting myself which even a lowlife idiot like yourself should be able to comprehend.
Now head off back to your Jeremy Kyle show sunshine.
Shit indeed.
Of course I want to deter a nuclear war. But the people in charge of the suitcases for some extraordinary reason think it's more complicated than you do.
And super apologies but that's it I must go - always a pleasure. For you. Yes, and me sometimes.
https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status/1580541620822233090
"Great despatch from Skegness and the UKIP conference by @ScoutNewsletter
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'[Neil] Hamilton says it’s “bizarre” that, given how badly the Tories are polling, UKIP isn’t more popular. He says even the Lib Dems are doing better than they are.'!"
Make the big angle - delivering on manifesto promises. It gives them something to run on in 2024 - I delivered on the 2019 pledges and steadied things. It won’t win them a GE. But it might get some waverers back.
This is exactly the strategy Truss should have employed.
Someone who was a v senor cabinet minister this year has put their association on notice for Election this year. They have a v safe seat but already preparing full bells and whistles campaigning this weekend you would expect in the run up to polling day. "It's coming," they say.
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The path to a collapse of the government which requires an election is fascinating. Two possible routes I can think of:
1) Operation Samson. Faced with calls for her head and her imminent demise, Truss proposes a motion that there be a general election. All opposition parties support, and despite "oh hell no" responses from various Tories it sneaks through.
2) The collapse of the government. No clear putsch against Truss emerges but despite an ever larger number of policy reversals her authority collapses completely, but with no clear agreement on a successor. With the markets in free-fall and the Tories in denial a no-confidence motion is put and sneaks through when the treasury bench tries to do a bravura defence and it falls flat.
In that some people are stuck with her because they can't get anything better, and everyone else hates her.
Butt out, IMF.
Damn.
It just shows the Tories are unfit for government.
But I don't see how she moves away from her 'Thatcherite' policies, she is so deeply attached to them. She won't be convincing even doing a Theresa May act. She is just wholly unsuited to the role she is in.
I suspect you will love it.
Social Security recipients will receive an annual cost-of-living adjustment of 8.7% next year, the largest increase since 1981
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1580544959844823041
The UK will need to do what Truss is advocating sooner or later, but we'll be dragged kicking and screaming there it seems. Indeed Truss may end up seeming in hindsight moderate compared to what comes after her.
A bit like how Heath had tried and failed to take on the NUM and other unions, so eventually Thatcher had to and went much further than Heath had wanted and failed to do.
No, the Conservative Party cannot inflict that on the country. Put somebody in Downing Street - 10 and 11 - that can move us away from Truss and Kwarteng. And make the right noises to Mr. Market.
Would be catastrophic for us and the EU and completely gut the US housing market
Safeguarding issues are important.
She will try to hold that line for a couple of days and then it will collapse. Probably along with her premiership.
I haven’t seen Rangers fold like that since 2012.
Truss has turned out to be unfit for office from about Day 7, if you discount the mourning period…
Still a thing in C20 Scots Lit. https://www.royalscottishacademy.org/events/16-poets-on-the-attack-a-dramatic-re-enactment-of-hugh-macdiarmid-and-hamish/
"Flyting is a ritual, poetic exchange of insults practiced mainly between the 5th and 16th centuries. Examples of flyting are found throughout Scots, Ancient, Medieval[7][8] and Modern Celtic, Old English, Middle English and Norse literature involving both historical and mythological figures. The exchanges would become extremely provocative, often involving accusations of cowardice or sexual perversion."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flyting
And they wonder why they are haemorrhaging members....
Interest rates rising in the USA provide the cover for screeching u-turns fiscal tightening here.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/13/liz-truss-may-raise-corporation-tax-in-further-budget-u-turn?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
One they could tap up for more in the future.
UK10yr started the day at 4.45%, traded as low as 4.05% and is heading back up - now 4.27%.
Gilts trading like meme stonks.
https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/TVC-GB10Y/
It got derailed by a global plague and then a terrible war. But there was a plan of sorts, even if I disagree
We saw this post GE2015 when the Cameron/Osborne administration seemed to have an extremely light programme.
From the stall she can't even run.
That must be particularly the case at the moment, as it'll be hard to get Tories out on the doorsteps in the current climate due to the poor reception they'll get, while the opposition party will be lapping it up locally.
Does any of it really mean that a 2022 election is that likely, or that the MP has a particular insight into it? Not really. It's not totally impossible, but it's still pretty damned unlikely.