Ladbrokes open the betting on the Truss successor – politicalbetting.com
Ladbrokes open the betting on the Truss successor – politicalbetting.com
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Bah: is Truss's successor even born yet?
She's only 48 or so, so she has at least 30 years in the top job.0 -
First, like Truss?
Nah; second, like Sunak.
Congratulations to Liz. She has had the expectations bar set helpfully low by both her predecessor and her detractors; hopefully she clears it comfortably (for all our sakes).1 -
Mordaunt looks reasonable value at 12.1
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Starmer: “there can be no justification for not freezing energy prices and imposing a windfall tax on producers”.
Other than it will break the market mechanism and lead to rationing, and disincentivise investment in boosting supply.
Bore off you dimwitted twit. We are in the midst of a once in a generation energy crisis and now have a PM who spent years working in the energy sector. Let’s see what she does.1 -
+£1,431.08 profit for me. Not bad.18
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Edit: I can't read.0
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A 17 point lead for Labour...Endillion said:First, like Truss?
Nah; second, like Sunak.
Congratulations to Liz. She has had the expectations bar set helpfully low by both her predecessor and her detractors; hopefully she clears it comfortably (for all our sakes).
Will it go up, or down?0 -
Johnson, I think.0
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Are the Lib Dems the big winners here? Scotland/South of England.0
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He is.AlistairM said:Edit: I can't read.
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Given everything I've heard about Liz my only expectation is that she will undershoot the bar while starring into the oncoming headlamps...Endillion said:First, like Truss?
Nah; second, like Sunak.
Congratulations to Liz. She has had the expectations bar set helpfully low by both her predecessor and her detractors; hopefully she clears it comfortably (for all our sakes).0 -
Lay Penny0
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If Liz Truss is the answer, we're asking the wrong question.0
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That's next month's electric bill sorted, then ?Casino_Royale said:+£1,431.08 profit for me. Not bad.
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Presumably today we get a very big jump in Starmer in the next PM betting simply because until now it was odds on the "next PM" would be Truss or Sunak.1
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Boris and Sunak both at 12 great value.
Given that they each represent a significant faction among MP's and members.0 -
Come on spinners. Its not 'lowest winning margin' its 'triumphant endorsement from a party given two amazing candidates to choose from '0
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More likely you are asking the wrong people....JosiasJessop said:If Liz Truss is the answer, we're asking the wrong question.
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The low number for Truss also blows up her cunning IndyRef scheme.
Why should Scots meet a 60% threshold, if she only got 47%...3 -
I'd lay both except that laying at 12 for a market that won't pay out for years is distinctly unappealing.dixiedean said:Boris and Sunak both at 12 great value.
Given that they each represent a significant faction among MP's and members.
They're the David Milliband of the Tory Party now.0 -
South maybe yesEabhal said:Are the Lib Dems the big winners here? Scotland/South of England.
Scotland nah0 -
"I will deliver on the energy crisis" can be read more than one way.0
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Suits you sirCasino_Royale said:Lay Penny
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I thought Brady's "outstanding candidates" was hilarious. The quality of British politicians has never been lower in living memory.wooliedyed said:Come on spinners. Its not 'lowest winning margin' its 'triumphant endorsement from a party given two amazing candidates to choose from '
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JUST IN: Markets are pretty unmoved for now by the confirmation that Liz Truss will be the UK's next prime minister
The pound is trading at around the $1.15 level and benchmark 10-year bond yields are steady
Latest: http://bloom.bg/3AT2nfH https://twitter.com/BloombergUK/status/1566759040897748992/photo/10 -
https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1566758811947368449
Shaun Lintern
@ShaunLintern
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If Liz Truss follows through on things she has said on the NHS then we should see action on drs pensions, rebuilding
@TeamQEH
and other hospitals, more funding for social care and somehow sorting GP access.
Billions and billions of spending just there.
+ billions on energy bills
+ billions on social care
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Old Lady Brady and his bag of spare partsglw said:
I thought Brady's "outstanding candidates" was hilarious. The quality of British politicians has never been lower in living memory.wooliedyed said:Come on spinners. Its not 'lowest winning margin' its 'triumphant endorsement from a party given two amazing candidates to choose from '
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FTPT
Having thought about this 57% is really bad for Truss.rottenborough said:What time does the buyer's remorse start in Tory WhatsApp groups?
First choice of less than 1-in-6 MPs but deriving her authority from an overwhelming membership mandate was her story.
Now it's unpopular with MPs, barely prefered by the membership.
So glad I held off betting on Truss percentage, I was this close to lumping on the 60-69.99 bands this morning.
I wonder if late deciders went Sunak?0 -
Its a threat!dixiedean said:"I will deliver on the energy crisis" can be read more than one way.
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Well.BartholomewRoberts said:
I'd lay both except that laying at 12 for a market that won't pay out for years is distinctly unappealing.dixiedean said:Boris and Sunak both at 12 great value.
Given that they each represent a significant faction among MP's and members.
They're the David Milliband of the Tory Party now.
They need to stick around first of course.
But if it goes tits up they'll need to be quick about it.
If it's before the next election it's one of them I think.0 -
Ah, I just remembered they don't have my favourite ever politician leading them anymore.wooliedyed said:
South maybe yesEabhal said:Are the Lib Dems the big winners here? Scotland/South of England.
Scotland nah
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It will mean she needs to adopt a collegiate approach and have a properly functioning Cabinet.Alistair said:FTPT
Having thought about this 57% is really bad for Truss.rottenborough said:What time does the buyer's remorse start in Tory WhatsApp groups?
First choice of less than 1-in-6 MPs but deriving her authority from an overwhelming membership mandate was her story.
Now it's unpopular with MPs, barely prefered by the membership.
So glad I held off betting on Truss percentage, I was this close to lumping on the 60-69.99 bands this morning.
I wonder if late deciders went Sunak?
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On another point: it's a sign of Starmer's political stupidity that on a day when the Conservatives choose a new leader, on a date known for a month or more, he is at a school in *North London*.
He really does give the impression that he'd be PM of the middle-class Londoners, not the country.4 -
Given I live about four minutes walk from Tottenham Court Road station, Crossrail is going to be a massive game changer for me.Andy_JS said:FPT
Wrt Crossrail on 6th November the new section will be linked up to the rest of the line.rcs1000 said:This morning, my plane touched down at Gatwick at 9:22am, and I was at my flat in Central London at 10:45.
Thameslink + Crossrail is amazing.3 -
Betting Post
F1: Backed Perez each way at 14 (with boost) to win in Monza.
The Red Bull is a beast in a straight line.2 -
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No one yet is talking about how we can reduce (across Europe) demand enough to match the new supply...Sandpit said:
Lewis still doesn’t get that there’s not enough supply. He can scream at the government to do something all he likes, but demand has to fall or there will be rationing and blackouts.Andy_JS said:Edwina Currie versus Martin Lewis on the energy crisis. I'm with Edwina on this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11181055/Martin-Lewis-clashes-Edwina-Currie-suggests-putting-foil-radiators.html
And until we do that prices will continually leap up in price....2 -
No; the US prevents me betting even behind a VPN, but I’d expect laying Johnson to be value, as it was for Arcuri.OnlyLivingBoy said:Johnson, I think.
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My guess is that Brady delivered this to Truss (probably by accident to be fair) by sending out ballots so soon after start of the race because of a fear about a postal strike.Alistair said:FTPT
Having thought about this 57% is really bad for Truss.rottenborough said:What time does the buyer's remorse start in Tory WhatsApp groups?
First choice of less than 1-in-6 MPs but deriving her authority from an overwhelming membership mandate was her story.
Now it's unpopular with MPs, barely prefered by the membership.
So glad I held off betting on Truss percentage, I was this close to lumping on the 60-69.99 bands this morning.
I wonder if late deciders went Sunak?
If no one could have voted until say the 4th week of this it may have looked very different.
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We must stop this damaging threat to fund the NHS!eek said:https://twitter.com/ShaunLintern/status/1566758811947368449
Shaun Lintern
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If Liz Truss follows through on things she has said on the NHS then we should see action on drs pensions, rebuilding
@TeamQEH
and other hospitals, more funding for social care and somehow sorting GP access.
Billions and billions of spending just there.
+ billions on energy bills
+ billions on social care
Mason has already been breathlessly comndemning the freeze the wholesale price of energy alleged plan as it will have to be paid for. The horror.0 -
Labour pushing a video with Truss's comments on British workers lacking "graft" https://twitter.com/UKLabour/status/15667537449849364511
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At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 20
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@David_Cameron
Many congratulations to new PM
@trussliz
. At this time of challenge & global uncertainty, I wish the new government well. I never forget the support I had from all former Conservative leaders when I won the ballot in 2005 & I hope all Conservatives will unite behind the new PM2 -
In one of the biographies I read, it was part of John Majors speech too, speaking at the announcement of his successor “with such outstanding candidates, this was an election the Conservative Party couldn’t lose.”glw said:
I thought Brady's "outstanding candidates" was hilarious. The quality of British politicians has never been lower in living memory.wooliedyed said:Come on spinners. Its not 'lowest winning margin' its 'triumphant endorsement from a party given two amazing candidates to choose from '
“Yes, because you were not in it.” An MP shouted from the front row.0 -
For comparison, Boris Johnson won 66.4% of the vote in 2019, David Cameron 67.6% in 2005 and Iain Duncan Smith 60.7% in 2001.0
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@JustinWelby
I am praying for Liz Truss as she takes on the great responsibilities of leadership at a time of such significant challenges.
May God guide her, and all who serve in our political life, towards His hope for our nation, and particular care for those who are vulnerable0 -
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Tbf a recovery could cost the Cons a seat or two in Scotland to the SNP but they are a million miles from retaking Berwickshire or anywhere in Aberdeenshire. 2 to 3 GE/Holyrood haul for thatEabhal said:
Ah, I just remembered they don't have my favourite ever politician leading them anymore.wooliedyed said:
South maybe yesEabhal said:Are the Lib Dems the big winners here? Scotland/South of England.
Scotland nah1 -
No longer on our TV screens, alas. Mr C-H does not seem so fond of appearing* in farmyard, erm, birds and bees movies.Eabhal said:
Ah, I just remembered they don't have my favourite ever politician leading them anymore.wooliedyed said:
South maybe yesEabhal said:Are the Lib Dems the big winners here? Scotland/South of England.
Scotland nah
*as the unwitting commentator, etc. I hasten to add.1 -
@Keir_Starmer
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I'd like to congratulate our next Prime Minister Liz Truss as she prepares for office.
But after 12 years of the Tories all we have to show for it is low wages, high prices, and a Tory cost of living crisis.
Only Labour can deliver the fresh start our country needs.
@EdwardJDavey
Under Liz Truss, we're set to see more of the same crisis and chaos as under Boris Johnson. From the cost of living emergency to the NHS crisis, the Conservatives have shown they don’t care, and have no plan.
It's time to scrap the energy price hike then call a General Election.
@NicolaSturgeon
Congratulations to Liz Truss. Our political differences are deep, but I will seek to build a good working relationship with her as I did with last 3 PMs.
She must now freeze energy bills for people & businesses, deliver more cash support, and increase funding for public services1 -
The obvious response to the 60% threshold was there therefore wasn't a mandate for leaving the EU then. How to upset both leavers and remainers simultaneously with a policy announcement.Scott_xP said:The low number for Truss also blows up her cunning IndyRef scheme.
Why should Scots meet a 60% threshold, if she only got 47%...1 -
Big shout out to William Hills who settled immediately, and faster than Betfair.
Bookies have been v. fair on this one, although I wait to see (with interest) how heavily Hills will now limit my account.1 -
Sturgeon isnt daft. She knows what will happen later this week.HYUFD said:@Keir_Starmer
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I'd like to congratulate our next Prime Minister Liz Truss as she prepares for office.
But after 12 years of the Tories all we have to show for it is low wages, high prices, and a Tory cost of living crisis.
Only Labour can deliver the fresh start our country needs.
@EdwardJDavey
Under Liz Truss, we're set to see more of the same crisis and chaos as under Boris Johnson. From the cost of living emergency to the NHS crisis, the Conservatives have shown they don’t care, and have no plan.
It's time to scrap the energy price hike then call a General Election.
@NicolaSturgeon
Congratulations to Liz Truss. Our political differences are deep, but I will seek to build a good working relationship with her as I did with last 3 PMs.
She must now freeze energy bills for people & businesses, deliver more cash support, and increase funding for public services
Davey, yep, not bad, over the target.
Starmer - is it PMQs? Ill use my PMQs line0 -
How remarkable, you have gleefully dumped the doctrine of parliamentary supremacy in favour of anyone who can fiddle an opinion poll. Your party is not fit to hold the title of 'Conservative'.HYUFD said:
The 60% threshold is support for indyref2 to even get a voteScott_xP said:The low number for Truss also blows up her cunning IndyRef scheme.
Why should Scots meet a 60% threshold, if she only got 47%...2 -
Jumping the gun somewhat. The Queen might as well just call for Starmer now.HYUFD said:@David_Cameron
Many congratulations to new PM
@trussliz
. At this time of challenge & global uncertainty, I wish the new government well. I never forget the support I had from all former Conservative leaders when I won the ballot in 2005 & I hope all Conservatives will unite behind the new PM1 -
Huw Edwards has already teed up the 'they doubted Margaret in 75 too' narrativeEabhal said:
Jumping the gun somewhat. The Queen might as well just call for Starmer now.HYUFD said:@David_Cameron
Many congratulations to new PM
@trussliz
. At this time of challenge & global uncertainty, I wish the new government well. I never forget the support I had from all former Conservative leaders when I won the ballot in 2005 & I hope all Conservatives will unite behind the new PM0 -
Sturgeon is on PB confirmed. She just tweeted that.Carnyx said:
How remarkable, you have gleefully dumped the doctrine of parliamentary supremacy in favour of anyone who can fiddle an opinion poll. Your party is not fit to hold the title of 'Conservative'.HYUFD said:
The 60% threshold is support for indyref2 to even get a voteScott_xP said:The low number for Truss also blows up her cunning IndyRef scheme.
Why should Scots meet a 60% threshold, if she only got 47%...1 -
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I think that these odds might be better value when you see what Cabinet role, if any, these candidates get tomorrow. Those who don't get posts will find it very, very difficult to remain in the news for several years. Look what happened to Hunt this time.HYUFD said:At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 2
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Is that it for the day now? Wait until tomorrow for the official take over?0
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Not my position, Truss', however still her decision and that of Westminster and she has made clear she will not allow indyref2 without at least 60%+ wanting one for a year consistently and will put that in lawCarnyx said:
How remarkable, you have gleefully dumped the doctrine of parliamentary supremacy in favour of anyone who can fiddle an opinion poll. Your party is not fit to hold the title of 'Conservative'.HYUFD said:
The 60% threshold is support for indyref2 to even get a voteScott_xP said:The low number for Truss also blows up her cunning IndyRef scheme.
Why should Scots meet a 60% threshold, if she only got 47%...0 -
TBF he didn't say outstandingly good.glw said:
I thought Brady's "outstanding candidates" was hilarious. The quality of British politicians has never been lower in living memory.wooliedyed said:Come on spinners. Its not 'lowest winning margin' its 'triumphant endorsement from a party given two amazing candidates to choose from '
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Braverman set to be Home Secretary would be a good bet to be Tory Leader of the Opposition if Truss losesDavidL said:
I think that these odds might be better value when you see what Cabinet role, if any, these candidates get tomorrow. Those who don't get posts will find it very, very difficult to remain in the news for several years. Look what happened to Hunt this time.HYUFD said:At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 2
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Hunt was facing 3 years of King BoZo. Nobody got a look in.DavidL said:Those who don't get posts will find it very, very difficult to remain in the news for several years. Look what happened to Hunt this time.
The defeated this time are facing #ThickLizzy. There will be no shortage of opportunities to regretfully point out her misfortunes to a willing press.0 -
However we must remember of the three previous head to headseek said:
The number of similarities this election result has to IDS's stint is frankly worrying...IanB2 said:For comparison, Boris Johnson won 66.4% of the vote in 2019, David Cameron 67.6% in 2005 and Iain Duncan Smith 60.7% in 2001.
Clarke - EUphile in a broadly eurosceptic or wary electorate
Davis - fucking idiot who used big jugs to campaign
Hunt - remainer in an age of Get Brexit Done
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More worrying is the obvious difference - her party is in government.eek said:
The number of similarities this election result has to IDS's stint is frankly worrying...IanB2 said:For comparison, Boris Johnson won 66.4% of the vote in 2019, David Cameron 67.6% in 2005 and Iain Duncan Smith 60.7% in 2001.
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Presumably she will be heading to Balmoral to kiss hands etc.turbotubbs said:Is that it for the day now? Wait until tomorrow for the official take over?
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The other part of the cunning plan was that Yes would have to get 50% plus 1 of the whole electorate, 47% not even close.HYUFD said:
The 60% threshold is support for indyref2 to even get a voteScott_xP said:The low number for Truss also blows up her cunning IndyRef scheme.
Why should Scots meet a 60% threshold, if she only got 47%...
The Truss obviously carrying on the one rule for bosses and another for everyone else vibe.0 -
The Party Membership clearly want Badenoch. The only winning bet today is Badenoch as LOTO.HYUFD said:At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 2
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NEW: Current Deputy PM @DominicRaab says he’s not expecting to be in the cabinet.
Says he’s pretty sure he’ll be out of a job tomorrow.
https://twitter.com/ShehabKhan/status/15667639993158574100 -
Yes, that’s the plan. Johnson and Truss both meeting HM at Balmoral tomorrow.DavidL said:
Presumably she will be heading to Balmoral to kiss hands etc.turbotubbs said:Is that it for the day now? Wait until tomorrow for the official take over?
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If Truss is smart (haha) she'll reach out.DavidL said:
I think that these odds might be better value when you see what Cabinet role, if any, these candidates get tomorrow. Those who don't get posts will find it very, very difficult to remain in the news for several years. Look what happened to Hunt this time.HYUFD said:At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 2
She doesn't have Boris's mandate amongst either the MPs or the members, and she should look to build bridges.
If she doesn't then she'll have a whispering campaign going against her almost immediately, and the next 12 months will be very difficult for her.1 -
In a member's vote Truss would have lost to both Badenoch or PM. The most important rounds of voting were on subsequent days when the MPs knocked both of them out.MoonRabbit said:
The Party Membership clearly want Badenoch. The only winning bet today is Badenoch as LOTO.HYUFD said:At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 2
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Electing a leader who can be booted out at any moment is a bit different to creating a new sovereign state.Scott_xP said:The low number for Truss also blows up her cunning IndyRef scheme.
Why should Scots meet a 60% threshold, if she only got 47%...0 -
Delighted to see a Remainer in No.10.
Let's see what her first moves are. Application to join the Euro, perhaps?1 -
She didn’t have much to say today.Nigelb said:
More worrying is the obvious difference - her party is in government.eek said:
The number of similarities this election result has to IDS's stint is frankly worrying...IanB2 said:For comparison, Boris Johnson won 66.4% of the vote in 2019, David Cameron 67.6% in 2005 and Iain Duncan Smith 60.7% in 2001.
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She needs to get something substantial and she needs to run it well with some new thinking. At the moment she is a series of interesting soundbites.MoonRabbit said:
The Party Membership clearly want Badenoch. The only winning bet today is Badenoch as LOTO.HYUFD said:At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 2
Edit, education would be good for her and the government.0 -
The chains!0 -
The good news, which accords with my experience (related on here) of good, upstanding Cons members supporting Rishi, is that not every Cons member is batshit crazy. Quite a lot of them not, if fact.
Does give some degree of hope for the future.1 -
Thank you to everyone who voted for me in this campaign.
I’ve said throughout that the Conservatives are one family.
It’s right we now unite behind the new PM, Liz Truss, as she steers the country through difficult times.
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Yup, though not clear yet what she has actually smashed.
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She should walk on stage to the guitar solo from Fleetwood Mac's The Chain.AlistairM said:
The chains!0 -
Random fact.
John Sheridan has been manager of Oldham Athletic under six Prime Ministers.5 -
Education seems a natural fit. Actually a very difficult job, hard to appear like you are winning in it?DavidL said:
She needs to get something substantial and she needs to run it well with some new thinking. At the moment she is a series of interesting soundbites.MoonRabbit said:
The Party Membership clearly want Badenoch. The only winning bet today is Badenoch as LOTO.HYUFD said:At this early point I would make Badenoch or Patel or Braverman favourite to be next Tory leader, assuming Truss still leads the party into the next election and fails to win it. One of them likely facing Tugendhat in the final 2
Edit, education would be good for her and the government.1 -
The "Quiet Man is turning up the volume" is still the gold standard of awful Tory leadership speeches that I use for measurement and reference, so Truss still has someway to go on this. Duncan-Smith is the executive, premium gold-standard ; Premium Bond, or Basildon Bond.eek said:
The number of similarities this election result has to IDS's stint is frankly worrying...IanB2 said:For comparison, Boris Johnson won 66.4% of the vote in 2019, David Cameron 67.6% in 2005 and Iain Duncan Smith 60.7% in 2001.
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Yep! All the countries affected by the supply shock need to work together, to maximise supply and minimise demand over the winter.eek said:FPT
No one yet is talking about how we can reduce (across Europe) demand enough to match the new supply...Sandpit said:
Lewis still doesn’t get that there’s not enough supply. He can scream at the government to do something all he likes, but demand has to fall or there will be rationing and blackouts.Andy_JS said:Edwina Currie versus Martin Lewis on the energy crisis. I'm with Edwina on this.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11181055/Martin-Lewis-clashes-Edwina-Currie-suggests-putting-foil-radiators.html
And until we do that prices will continually leap up in price....
Simply throwing billions of public money at freezing bills, does nothing to reduce demand. The package of measure needs to include deals with large consumers of energy, a public information campaign about reducing domestic energy use, and some price signals to everyone else, while not letting small businesses and those of limited means suffer from market failure.2 -
So our third female PM. All Tories, of course. When will Labour even give us the option of a female leader? Even the Lib Dems had a rather unsuccesful go.3
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Or Under Your Thumb.williamglenn said:
She should walk on stage to the guitar solo from Fleetwood Mac's The Chain.AlistairM said:
The chains!0 -
Schools are facing 2 big issues: teacher recruitment and energy costs. Showing he understands that is pretty shrewd in my view.JosiasJessop said:On another point: it's a sign of Starmer's political stupidity that on a day when the Conservatives choose a new leader, on a date known for a month or more, he is at a school in *North London*.
He really does give the impression that he'd be PM of the middle-class Londoners, not the country.
Anyway, my drink is coming so I will leave you all.1 -
To be fair to IDS he never lost a general election, made gains in every local election he was leader and the Tories averaged about 32-33% before he was ousted in polls. He was not a great leader but if Truss did as well as IDS did even that would be somewhat of a recovery from what Survation was suggesting she would lead the Tories to todayWhisperingOracle said:
The "Quiet Man is turning up the volume" is still the gold-standard I refer to of awful Tory leadership speeches, so Truss still has someway to go on this. Duncan-Smith is the executive, premium gold-standard ; Premium Bond, or Basildon Bond.eek said:
The number of similarities this election result has to IDS's stint is frankly worrying...IanB2 said:For comparison, Boris Johnson won 66.4% of the vote in 2019, David Cameron 67.6% in 2005 and Iain Duncan Smith 60.7% in 2001.
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That would leave lots of people disappointed, who were expecting to watch the Grand Prix.williamglenn said:
She should walk on stage to the guitar solo from Fleetwood Mac's The Chain.AlistairM said:
The chains!2
