Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
Not if you live in NI, or care about the economy
His mistake is reopening it.
He should have done the deal with the EU on the NI mitigation and got on with regulatory reform.
Jesus don't think I've ever agreed with you before
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
Very true. It is an financial disaster and a constant political embarassment. I can't understand why so many are so attached to it, almost like a cancer patient being fond of his tumour.
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
This country will always have running sores. Always has done, always will do. But Brexit is done.
What we're dealing with now is post-Brexit.
THat's like dealing with an infected finger by amputating the hand because you couldn't be arsed to renew the prescription for the antibiotics which were curing it.
Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO
That would violate all three Lascelles principles.
Denying one could be Her Maj's finest hour.
She'll do whatever her PM tells her to do, just look at her granting the 2019 prorogation.
What's thew point of royalty (except to protect us from RCs, according to some on PB)? Will be very interesting to see what happens.
It's to be a figurehead. If people are arguing that they actually want the Queen to overrule the PM, I don't believe them unless they are an uber-monarchist. It makes zero sense otherwise.
Quite. But why have the Lascelles Conventions? THey do not a figurehead make.
Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO
That would violate all three Lascelles principles.
Denying one could be Her Maj's finest hour.
She'll do whatever her PM tells her to do, just look at her granting the 2019 prorogation.
Not when the politics are like this.
Politics were even more polarised than now.
He's also got a near 80 seat majority, she'll grant a dissolution.
That's why she won't.
The current parliament is capable of doing it's job, another leader can easily be found who will command confidence of the Commons and there's an economic crisis.
HMQ will get cover by the politicians laying out the alternative behind the scenes and liaising with her private secretary.
The deep comedy is that both Truss and Zahawi are surely blowing their leadership chances, by squabbling over a job they might only have for a few weeks/months
If it is true it is utterly amazing that the PM of this country is now so weak that their education secretary can stomp their feet and demand to be made Chancellor.
Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO
You keep harping on about this but Boris loses his seat, there's no way he will call an election.
It's that or lose PM, it is all about Johnson. GE this year.
No, he's out either way then. He'll cling on as long as he can by just not resigning.
Don't agree. I stick with my prediction.
It's hopecasting, not a prediction. Boris losing his seat will be a humiliation, if he gets deposed tomorrow or in a few months and the Tories still lose in 2024 then he is "vindicated".
His only tactic is to just hold on and hope for the best that the news narrative moves on quickly.
No it isn't, it's a genuine prediction in good faith.
He has nothing to lose, he calls an election and wins and he's still PM or he gets kicked out.
I stick by it, have a good evening Max
If he calls an election, he loses. Calling an election is the same as saying he'll resign in 5 weeks time.
An election at this time will be, in effect, a national vote of confidence in Boris, and that he'll lose.
Public universities in Florida will be required to survey both faculty and students on their political beliefs and viewpoints, with the institutions at risk of losing their funding if the responses are not satisfactory to the state's Republican-led legislature.
The unprecedented project, which was tucked into a law signed Tuesday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is part of a long-running, nationwide right-wing push to promote "intellectual diversity" on campuses — though worries over a lack of details on the survey's privacy protections, and questions over what the results may ultimately be used for, hover over the venture.
Based on the bill's language, survey responses will not necessarily be anonymous — sparking worries among many professors and other university staff that they may be targeted, held back in their careers or even fired for their beliefs.
According to the bill's sponsor, state Sen. Ray Rodrigues, faculty will not be promoted or fired based on their responses, but, as The Tampa Bay Times reported Tuesday, the bill itself does not back up those claims.
No. Completely justified. The horrendous onethink on American campuses has to be challenged. They are 99% Democrat and 98% Woke, yet the rest of America really is not, and this gulf is bad for any country
I've got little confidence the situation will improve because of 'government surveys'. Too blunt. A softer approach, linking state funding with commitments to viewpoint diversity and freedom of speech would probably be more effective.
“England had played 1,051 Tests before this one. They’d made more than 325 to win in the fourth innings in exactly two of them.”
In the game that finished today, they scored 378
It’s not just record-breaking, it’s like Bob Beamon’s long jump in Mexico in 1968
Though its not the record fourth innings score that England have achieved. That honour, in a non-timeless Test goes to the 417 they scored chasing 463 in the Ashes 1977.
In timeless history England famously got to 654/5 chasing 696 in the fourth innings, on the ninth day (over 12 days) of the 1939 Durban Test before the match got abandoned. Regrettably not the most famous thing to happen in 1939 though.
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
We'll see how reliable my source is too! Exciting for us all
Indeed
If he is wrong, he'll only have a 50% success rate, easier to just flip a coin
Im not sure how he'd know, Horse. Im sure Starmers team belueve there will be no fine but i suspect they dont know yet. Unless there is collusion which im sure there isnt
Wise of Zahawi though. Nobody will want to be dealing with the situation in September. Between strikes, staffing shortages caused by unfilled vacancies, shortages caused by illness and the ongoing train crash over teacher training things are about to get really, really bad.
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
Has there ever been a more lackadaisical force than Durham. Seven weeks to check out an early evening curry? They could have reenacted the evening several times over using actors.
Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO
That would violate all three Lascelles principles.
Denying one could be Her Maj's finest hour.
She'll do whatever her PM tells her to do, just look at her granting the 2019 prorogation.
Not when the politics are like this.
Politics were even more polarised than now.
He's also got a near 80 seat majority, she'll grant a dissolution.
That's why she won't.
The current parliament is capable of doing it's job, another leader can easily be found who will command confidence of the Commons and there's an economic crisis.
HMQ will get cover by the politicians laying out the alternative behind the scenes and liaising with her private secretary.
That's not the Queen's way. To contradict her Prime Minister would be to go against her entire method of Queenship. Doing exactly as her Prime Minister tells her to do allows her to hide behind the Constitution. Actually making a judgement runs the risk of people deciding her judgement was wrong and that she should be replaced by someone with better judgement.
The Lascelles principles only work if they deter a PM from contradicting them. The Queen will do everything to avoid being seen as a political actor.
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
We'll see how reliable my source is too! Exciting for us all
Indeed
If he is wrong, he'll only have a 50% success rate, easier to just flip a coin
Im not sure how he'd know, Horse. Im sure Starmers team belueve there will be no fine but i suspect they dont know yet. Unless there is collusion which im sure there isnt
My source says Starmer has already been told but make of that what you will, I post these as soon as I am told.
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
Very true. It is an financial disaster and a constant political embarassment. I can't understand why so many are so attached to it, almost like a cancer patient being fond of his tumour.
Well then, get rid of NI. Cast it loose and see where GB's international credibility goes (hint: straight down past the 7th level of Hell)
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
Has there ever been a more lackadaisical force than Durham. Seven weeks to check out an early evening curry? They could have reenacted the evening several times over. Someone's taking the piss.
The deep comedy is that both Truss and Zahawi are surely blowing their leadership chances, by squabbling over a job they might only have for a few weeks/months
Truss should have kept her powder dry earlier. It shows she's not very good at politicking to have declared support so quickly. Those who wait longest get the best options. If she resigns now it looks like a tantrum over not being made chancellor not a principled stand against a completely unsuitable leader.
Final thought this evening - Rees-Mogg pushing the line that the PM “continues to command a majority of the House”. I mean, you could maybe just about get away with that if there hadn’t recently been a confidence vote in which on a best-case scenario the payroll voted to keep you
There’s a lot of Virtua Parly/green screen studio extrapolation in this tweet (with arm-waving), with added thought experiments - but I can’t work out how the PM can claim he commands a majority any longer
Given that this is the 2020s, can we expect Durham police to announce a FPN at 11:59am tomorrow?
A long night for Keir Starmer having to prepare six deadly questions for PMQs while also knowing Durham plod might put the kibosh on it.
I am not sure even that would bury Johnson's woes tomorrow. It will barely take the sting out of it. @wooliedyed seems confident it is coming tomorrow anyway. Johnson really needed them today.
“England had played 1,051 Tests before this one. They’d made more than 325 to win in the fourth innings in exactly two of them.”
In the game that finished today, they scored 378
It’s not just record-breaking, it’s like Bob Beamon’s long jump in Mexico in 1968
Though its not the record fourth innings score that England have achieved. That honour, in a non-timeless Test goes to the 417 they scored chasing 463 in the Ashes 1977.
In timeless history England famously got to 654/5 chasing 696 in the fourth innings, on the ninth day (over 12 days) of the 1939 Durban Test before the match got abandoned. Regrettably not the most famous thing to happen in 1939 though.
Point of order. That wasn't the Ashes. That was the one off Centenary Test. Derek Randall.
I've got a feeling people over estimate the effect of these resignations. Sunak never had the stature of Gordon Brown or George Osborne, he was bought in to the job as a yes man. I think this is going to be 'just another chaotic day' in Johnsons career, where the unthinkable becomes real. He thrives on chaos and crisis.
Surely Liz Truss has to resign if Zahawi is promoted ahead of her. Huge slap in her face if he gets the gig by blackmailing the pig dog.
It would be beautiful poetic justice - Liz stays “loyal” to hopefully be in position to replace her boss who she is “loyal” to but isn’t loyal to anyone then misses the gig she wants to someone else who will remain “loyal” for the job she wants and he wants.
Wise of Zahawi though. Nobody will want to be dealing with the situation in September. Between strikes, staffing shortages caused by unfilled vacancies, shortages caused by illness and the ongoing train crash over teacher training things are about to get really, really bad.
I got to the end of that before I worked out that you were somewhat parochially talking about the teaching profession rather than the whole economy! Chancellor right now makes Alastair Darling's timing look good.
Public universities in Florida will be required to survey both faculty and students on their political beliefs and viewpoints, with the institutions at risk of losing their funding if the responses are not satisfactory to the state's Republican-led legislature.
The unprecedented project, which was tucked into a law signed Tuesday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is part of a long-running, nationwide right-wing push to promote "intellectual diversity" on campuses — though worries over a lack of details on the survey's privacy protections, and questions over what the results may ultimately be used for, hover over the venture.
Based on the bill's language, survey responses will not necessarily be anonymous — sparking worries among many professors and other university staff that they may be targeted, held back in their careers or even fired for their beliefs.
According to the bill's sponsor, state Sen. Ray Rodrigues, faculty will not be promoted or fired based on their responses, but, as The Tampa Bay Times reported Tuesday, the bill itself does not back up those claims.
No. Completely justified. The horrendous onethink on American campuses has to be challenged. They are 99% Democrat and 98% Woke, yet the rest of America really is not, and this gulf is bad for any country
I've got little confidence the situation will improve because of 'government surveys'. Too blunt. A softer approach, linking state funding with commitments to viewpoint diversity and freedom of speech would probably be more effective.
But it is, at least, a start
Extirpating Extreme Wokeness from Academe is an urgent need. That’s where CRT came from: the universities
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
Very true. It is an financial disaster and a constant political embarassment. I can't understand why so many are so attached to it, almost like a cancer patient being fond of his tumour.
Well then, get rid of NI. Cast it loose and see where GB's international credibility goes (hint: straight down past the 7th level of Hell)
So you oppose a United Ireland? Strange. I have long thought it a very good idea - for entirely positive rather than negative reasons.
Truss has done a stint as Chief Secretary to the Treasury so she will have some idea of how things work there but she is borderline bonkers and is not what this country needs right now or over the next few months.
So long as Boris Johnson remains in office, the only pertinent question is what he needs right now. The country can go f**k itself.
We face major problems and for the last 6 months the government has been mainly focussed on saving Big Dog's miserable hide.
In a parallel universe Prime Minister Miliband just enjoyed an afternoon at the tennis.
Best PM we never had other than John Smith
I'd put him (Ed Milliband) at about two millionth.
John Smith was a shit politician, lest we forget his shadow budget in 1992 helped the Tories win that election.
I met him after his election as Labour leader. I had been quite a fan but his speech was dull and full of drivel and the encounter was a terrible disappointment.
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
We'll see how reliable my source is too! Exciting for us all
Indeed
If he is wrong, he'll only have a 50% success rate, easier to just flip a coin
Im not sure how he'd know, Horse. Im sure Starmers team belueve there will be no fine but i suspect they dont know yet. Unless there is collusion which im sure there isnt
I doubt he would be informed without the police making a statement an hour or two later
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
We'll see how reliable my source is too! Exciting for us all
Indeed
If he is wrong, he'll only have a 50% success rate, easier to just flip a coin
Im not sure how he'd know, Horse. Im sure Starmers team belueve there will be no fine but i suspect they dont know yet. Unless there is collusion which im sure there isnt
My source says Starmer has already been told but make of that what you will, I post these as soon as I am told.
Well lets see. I doubt he knows because they had a meeting today on how to proceed and theyve said they will promptly release the info after informing labour. But who knows.
I've got a feeling people over estimate the effect of these resignations. Sunak never had the stature of Gordon Brown or George Osborne, he was bought in to the job as a yes man. I think this is going to be 'just another chaotic day' in Johnsons career, where the unthinkable becomes real. He thrives on chaos and crisis.
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
We'll see how reliable my source is too! Exciting for us all
Indeed
If he is wrong, he'll only have a 50% success rate, easier to just flip a coin
Im not sure how he'd know, Horse. Im sure Starmers team belueve there will be no fine but i suspect they dont know yet. Unless there is collusion which im sure there isnt
My source says Starmer has already been told but make of that what you will, I post these as soon as I am told.
Well lets see. I doubt he knows because they had a meeting today on how to proceed and theyve said they will promptly release the info after informing labour. But who knows.
Actually sources say there was a meeting, it has not been announced publicly. So right now our sources are level pegging
Sunak and Javid will end up being heroes in the history books even if they never see high office again and return to banking.
Who the hell would have thought, after the 2008 finance crash, that it would be bankers who actually have the guts to stand for ethics and integrity?
Wow, life moves fast.
Let's not over-egg the pudding. They've read the very large and bold capitals on the wall.
Javid did display a modicum of integrity when he resigned as Chancellor because he refused to do the gaffer's bidding on everything, I'll give him that.
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
Has there ever been a more lackadaisical force than Durham. Seven weeks to check out an early evening curry? They could have reenacted the evening several times over using actors.
Someone's taking the piss.
You clearly do not understand due process including 4 weeks to reply to the questionnaires just as in Johnson 's case
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
Very true. It is an financial disaster and a constant political embarassment. I can't understand why so many are so attached to it, almost like a cancer patient being fond of his tumour.
Well then, get rid of NI. Cast it loose and see where GB's international credibility goes (hint: straight down past the 7th level of Hell)
So you oppose a United Ireland? Strange. I have long thought it a very good idea - for entirely positive rather than negative reasons.
Not the only logical possibility. Could be given the withdrawal from East of Suez (or rather West of Mann), Winds of Change treatment.
Given that this is the 2020s, can we expect Durham police to announce a FPN at 11:59am tomorrow?
A long night for Keir Starmer having to prepare six deadly questions for PMQs while also knowing Durham plod might put the kibosh on it.
At least he probably won't be reading out a letter from a constituent or the details of someone's bus route. But, as usual, he will be too wordy and lacking in wit.
Wise of Zahawi though. Nobody will want to be dealing with the situation in September. Between strikes, staffing shortages caused by unfilled vacancies, shortages caused by illness and the ongoing train crash over teacher training things are about to get really, really bad.
I know things are bad and about to get worse, but going from Education to Treasury would be frying pan to fire, surely?
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
Very true. It is an financial disaster and a constant political embarassment. I can't understand why so many are so attached to it, almost like a cancer patient being fond of his tumour.
Well then, get rid of NI. Cast it loose and see where GB's international credibility goes (hint: straight down past the 7th level of Hell)
So you oppose a United Ireland? Strange. I have long thought it a very good idea - for entirely positive rather than negative reasons.
I support a Federated Ireland because I believe it is more likely to succeed. Make Stormont sovereign and apply for EU membership. Unionists would be decimated by London's unilateral action and less of an obstacle. The south would not need to take on the north as an economic burden nor a political burden.
It would also allow Brexit to be completed and GB could stand alone in its glorious, self-imposed isolation.
“England had played 1,051 Tests before this one. They’d made more than 325 to win in the fourth innings in exactly two of them.”
In the game that finished today, they scored 378
It’s not just record-breaking, it’s like Bob Beamon’s long jump in Mexico in 1968
Though its not the record fourth innings score that England have achieved. That honour, in a non-timeless Test goes to the 417 they scored chasing 463 in the Ashes 1977.
In timeless history England famously got to 654/5 chasing 696 in the fourth innings, on the ninth day (over 12 days) of the 1939 Durban Test before the match got abandoned. Regrettably not the most famous thing to happen in 1939 though.
The Centenary Test of 1977! Also bizarre in that it concluded with exactly the same result - Australia winning by 45 runs - as the very match it commemorated (the first ever Test Match of 1877).
Wise of Zahawi though. Nobody will want to be dealing with the situation in September. Between strikes, staffing shortages caused by unfilled vacancies, shortages caused by illness and the ongoing train crash over teacher training things are about to get really, really bad.
I know things are bad and about to get worse, but going from Education to Treasury would be frying pan to fire, surely?
Cut taxes and the grassroots will love him. Education is difficult, complex and not susceptible to easy policy wins. Plus. Staffing is a shit show. Woe betide anyone sitting there when kids are sent home cos there's no one to teach them.
Wise of Zahawi though. Nobody will want to be dealing with the situation in September. Between strikes, staffing shortages caused by unfilled vacancies, shortages caused by illness and the ongoing train crash over teacher training things are about to get really, really bad.
I got to the end of that before I worked out that you were somewhat parochially talking about the teaching profession rather than the whole economy! Chancellor right now makes Alastair Darling's timing look good.
Fair point, but Education is still going to be worse for the simple reason most of what's about to burn through was entirely avoidable. At least the Treasury can partly blame the Russians. The DfE have nobody to blame but themselves.
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
Very true. It is an financial disaster and a constant political embarassment. I can't understand why so many are so attached to it, almost like a cancer patient being fond of his tumour.
Well then, get rid of NI. Cast it loose and see where GB's international credibility goes (hint: straight down past the 7th level of Hell)
So you oppose a United Ireland? Strange. I have long thought it a very good idea - for entirely positive rather than negative reasons.
I support a Federated Ireland because I believe it is more likely to succeed. Make Stormont sovereign and apply for EU membership. Unionists would be decimated by London's unilateral action and less of an obstacle. The south would not need to take on the north as an economic burden nor a political burden.
It would also allow Brexit to be completed and GB could stand alone in its glorious, self-imposed isolation.
So you are proposing a solution that satisfies neither side. Like I said, strange.
Oh and it is worth remembering that 'decimated' Unionists does not mean the population is any less unionist, just that they no longer have democratic organisations they can turn to. So where do you think they then turn?
Wise of Zahawi though. Nobody will want to be dealing with the situation in September. Between strikes, staffing shortages caused by unfilled vacancies, shortages caused by illness and the ongoing train crash over teacher training things are about to get really, really bad.
I got to the end of that before I worked out that you were somewhat parochially talking about the teaching profession rather than the whole economy! Chancellor right now makes Alastair Darling's timing look good.
There is not enough popcorn in the known universe.
Johnson will survive this easily. He's going nowhere
Not easily. But he's still got the payroll vote and at least some other MPs. They might be close to a majority of MPs wanting him gone, but given they failed once I'd say they need a clear majority before any rule changes etc are contemplated to allow another go.
That's your wording not the tweet. If you look at the story it's basically about not letting the Unionists out of their hole at present: and what if Mr Johnson wins?
Edit: the SNP is under no obligation to stop the Tories digging a bigger hole, and dfragging Labour down with them.
Hmm, it's been suggested to me that Boris got Truss on board so quickly by promising her No. 11 and now he's got Zahawi demanding the job as well and he won't take Foreign Sec. Fears that Truss may resign tomorrow morning just before PMQs if she doesn't get the job but Zahawi will resign tonight if he doesn't get it. Current thinking is that giving it to Zahawi kicks the can for another day so that's what will happen.
Wise of Zahawi though. Nobody will want to be dealing with the situation in September. Between strikes, staffing shortages caused by unfilled vacancies, shortages caused by illness and the ongoing train crash over teacher training things are about to get really, really bad.
September ? This new cabinet will be lucky to last the month.
Public universities in Florida will be required to survey both faculty and students on their political beliefs and viewpoints, with the institutions at risk of losing their funding if the responses are not satisfactory to the state's Republican-led legislature.
The unprecedented project, which was tucked into a law signed Tuesday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is part of a long-running, nationwide right-wing push to promote "intellectual diversity" on campuses — though worries over a lack of details on the survey's privacy protections, and questions over what the results may ultimately be used for, hover over the venture.
Based on the bill's language, survey responses will not necessarily be anonymous — sparking worries among many professors and other university staff that they may be targeted, held back in their careers or even fired for their beliefs.
According to the bill's sponsor, state Sen. Ray Rodrigues, faculty will not be promoted or fired based on their responses, but, as The Tampa Bay Times reported Tuesday, the bill itself does not back up those claims.
No. Completely justified. The horrendous onethink on American campuses has to be challenged. They are 99% Democrat and 98% Woke, yet the rest of America really is not, and this gulf is bad for any country
I've got little confidence the situation will improve because of 'government surveys'. Too blunt. A softer approach, linking state funding with commitments to viewpoint diversity and freedom of speech would probably be more effective.
But it is, at least, a start
Extirpating Extreme Wokeness from Academe is an urgent need. That’s where CRT came from: the universities
If only you knew as much about US universities and CRT as you do about AI.
So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!
We will never know. He should get his FPN tomorrow
Has there ever been a more lackadaisical force than Durham. Seven weeks to check out an early evening curry? They could have reenacted the evening several times over using actors.
Someone's taking the piss.
If you worked there, surely you would also drag your feet?
Announcing anything tomorrow would be a total fucking kaboom.
I'm coming to the belief that the rebels have the 180 magic total, and it won't be further cabinet resignations that do for Boris Johnson but Sir Graham Brady having a chat.
“England had played 1,051 Tests before this one. They’d made more than 325 to win in the fourth innings in exactly two of them.”
In the game that finished today, they scored 378
It’s not just record-breaking, it’s like Bob Beamon’s long jump in Mexico in 1968
Though its not the record fourth innings score that England have achieved. That honour, in a non-timeless Test goes to the 417 they scored chasing 463 in the Ashes 1977.
In timeless history England famously got to 654/5 chasing 696 in the fourth innings, on the ninth day (over 12 days) of the 1939 Durban Test before the match got abandoned. Regrettably not the most famous thing to happen in 1939 though.
Was that the one where England deployed the dread bodyline against the Springboks? Nearly causing the South African's to sit it out, when UK declared war on Germany seven months later?
Note that crucial House of Commons vote in Cape Town on SA declaring war - which split the existing government and returned Jan Christian Smuts as Prime Minister - was split 80 yea versus 67 nay.
Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?
I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.
They are pretending that nobody remembers.
But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy
So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers
However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go
"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.
He did get it done.
And, now, there's no use for him anymore.
This. 💯
I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.
Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.
NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.
Very true. It is an financial disaster and a constant political embarassment. I can't understand why so many are so attached to it, almost like a cancer patient being fond of his tumour.
Well then, get rid of NI. Cast it loose and see where GB's international credibility goes (hint: straight down past the 7th level of Hell)
So you oppose a United Ireland? Strange. I have long thought it a very good idea - for entirely positive rather than negative reasons.
I support a Federated Ireland because I believe it is more likely to succeed. Make Stormont sovereign and apply for EU membership. Unionists would be decimated by London's unilateral action and less of an obstacle. The south would not need to take on the north as an economic burden nor a political burden.
It would also allow Brexit to be completed and GB could stand alone in its glorious, self-imposed isolation.
So you are proposing a solution that satisfies neither side. Like I said, strange.
Oh and it is worth remembering that 'decimated' Unionists does not mean the population is any less unionist, just that they no longer have democratic organisations they can turn to. So where do you think they then turn?
On the contrary, the south is very wary of taking on the north and many in the north resent the idea of control from the south. A Federated Ireland where both Parliaments exist in their present forms eliminates many problems.
If GB dumped NI, Unionism would have to change and many of the younger generation are less Unionist than (say) my mother who, like Blackadder, sees cold weather as God's way of telling her to burn more catholics...
Final thought this evening - Rees-Mogg pushing the line that the PM “continues to command a majority of the House”. I mean, you could maybe just about get away with that if there hadn’t recently been a confidence vote in which on a best-case scenario the payroll voted to keep you
There’s a lot of Virtua Parly/green screen studio extrapolation in this tweet (with arm-waving), with added thought experiments - but I can’t work out how the PM can claim he commands a majority any longer
Hmm, it's been suggested to me that Boris got Truss on board so quickly by promising her No. 11 and now he's got Zahawi demanding the job as well and he won't take Foreign Sec. Fears that Truss may resign tomorrow morning just before PMQs if she doesn't get the job but Zahawi will resign tonight if he doesn't get it. Current thinking is that giving it to Zahawi kicks the can for another day so that's what will happen.
The man's got some stones, you've got to give him that.
Hmm, it's been suggested to me that Boris got Truss on board so quickly by promising her No. 11 and now he's got Zahawi demanding the job as well and he won't take Foreign Sec. Fears that Truss may resign tomorrow morning just before PMQs if she doesn't get the job but Zahawi will resign tonight if he doesn't get it. Current thinking is that giving it to Zahawi kicks the can for another day so that's what will happen.
He could announce the first Chancellor job-share scheme. Truss gets Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, Zahawi Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays. Both have Sunday off, and two budget statements a year so they both get a shot of holding a briefcase up to the press cameras.
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The current parliament is capable of doing it's job, another leader can easily be found who will command confidence of the Commons and there's an economic crisis.
HMQ will get cover by the politicians laying out the alternative behind the scenes and liaising with her private secretary.
The deep comedy is that both Truss and Zahawi are surely blowing their leadership chances, by squabbling over a job they might only have for a few weeks/months
An election at this time will be, in effect, a national vote of confidence in Boris, and that he'll lose.
In timeless history England famously got to 654/5 chasing 696 in the fourth innings, on the ninth day (over 12 days) of the 1939 Durban Test before the match got abandoned. Regrettably not the most famous thing to happen in 1939 though.
Someone's taking the piss.
The Lascelles principles only work if they deter a PM from contradicting them. The Queen will do everything to avoid being seen as a political actor.
There’s a lot of Virtua Parly/green screen studio extrapolation in this tweet (with arm-waving), with added thought experiments - but I can’t work out how the PM can claim he commands a majority any longer
https://twitter.com/skynewsniall/status/1544413837071360002
That wasn't the Ashes. That was the one off Centenary Test.
Derek Randall.
what’s the bet he’s promised it to them both in recent months https://twitter.com/thejonnyreilly/status/1544410985007562759
Then she loses on all fronts.
Dog’s dinner. Trussed chicken.
https://twitter.com/donaeldunready/status/1544411761104887814
Extirpating Extreme Wokeness from Academe is an urgent need. That’s where CRT came from: the universities
1) Starmer gets a FPN
2) Starmer honours his word and resigns
3) Johnson holds on
4) LP win the next GE
Then:
Nandy is value at 240 with BF for next PM
https://twitter.com/JonnElledge/status/1544371080390918146
Javid did display a modicum of integrity when he resigned as Chancellor because he refused to do the gaffer's bidding on everything, I'll give him that.
https://twitter.com/eyespymp/status/1544412078395490312
It would also allow Brexit to be completed and GB could stand alone in its glorious, self-imposed isolation.
https://twitter.com/LordAshcroft/status/1544416173114236931
Education is difficult, complex and not susceptible to easy policy wins.
Plus. Staffing is a shit show.
Woe betide anyone sitting there when kids are sent home cos there's no one to teach them.
https://twitter.com/lordashcroft/status/1544416173114236931?s=21&t=5acNbgWlUdTRJuqQVRbMuQ
Oh and it is worth remembering that 'decimated' Unionists does not mean the population is any less unionist, just that they no longer have democratic organisations they can turn to. So where do you think they then turn?
Edit: the SNP is under no obligation to stop the Tories digging a bigger hole, and dfragging Labour down with them.
Bit like Hague would've made a good one in 2005 to 2015. Or Portillo post 2005 as well.
Sometimes losing makes a man (or woman).
This new cabinet will be lucky to last the month.
Announcing anything tomorrow would be a total fucking kaboom.
Note that crucial House of Commons vote in Cape Town on SA declaring war - which split the existing government and returned Jan Christian Smuts as Prime Minister - was split 80 yea versus 67 nay.
If GB dumped NI, Unionism would have to change and many of the younger generation are less Unionist than (say) my mother who, like Blackadder, sees cold weather as God's way of telling her to burn more catholics...
If he has no shame.
No wait...