The cabinet are revolting as they prepare to get their Johnson out. – politicalbetting.com

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

BREAKING Steve Barclay is the new Health Secretary

Good appointment, a hard worker

Nigelb said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genuinely scary.

Public universities in Florida will be required to survey both faculty and students on their political beliefs and viewpoints, with the institutions at risk of losing their funding if the responses are not satisfactory to the state's Republican-led legislature.

The unprecedented project, which was tucked into a law signed Tuesday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is part of a long-running, nationwide right-wing push to promote "intellectual diversity" on campuses — though worries over a lack of details on the survey's privacy protections, and questions over what the results may ultimately be used for, hover over the venture.

Based on the bill's language, survey responses will not necessarily be anonymous — sparking worries among many professors and other university staff that they may be targeted, held back in their careers or even fired for their beliefs.

According to the bill's sponsor, state Sen. Ray Rodrigues, faculty will not be promoted or fired based on their responses, but, as The Tampa Bay Times reported Tuesday, the bill itself does not back up those claims.

https://www.salon.com/2021/06/23/desantis-signs-bill-requiring-florida-students-professors-to-register-political-views-with-state/

So much for the 1st Amendment.

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO

Scott_xP said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

BREAKING Steve Barclay is the new Health Secretary

Good appointment, a hard worker

So no chief of staff. Handy right now...

rottenborough said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

BREAKING Steve Barclay is the new Health Secretary

Good appointment, a hard worker

Yeh, but who is to be chief of staff for a role that is 24/7 firefighting shitstorm?

Mogg?

rottenborough said:

Harry Cole
@MrHarryCole
Sounds like plan is to appoint a new Chancellor this evening.

ydoethur said:

HYUFD said:

MaxPB said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MaxPB said:

Gardenwalker said:

wooliedyed said:

Re cabinet not quitting. They may simply assume the game is up and they are best placed to fight for the leadership from cabinet. Patel, Raab, Truss probably all see themselves as potential 'cabinet agreed caretaker'

Patel won’t be re-appointed. She is unpopular, and only got the present job for culture-war style shits and giggles.

Raab is quite dim, and is likely caught in some headlights somewhere. He too will not survive Johnson.

Truss is a WTF.
She had her chance and she’s blown it.
She’ll be another casualty therefore.

We are going to see quite a lot of the fatberg dislodged, I think.

Patel will definitely make a comeback, probably in the same position. The next leader will need to get backing from the Tory right and keeping Patel in place deporting people to Rwanda guarantees that.

I'd honestly be shocked if whoever wins moves Patel out of post, only a promotion to Foreign Sec would be plausible IMO if they wanted a new Home Sec. No way she'll take a demotion and they will need her on side.

She's too much of a national security risk to be Foreign Secretary.

Maybe, but Patel is a survivor. I think her lack of leadership credentials is why it doesn't make a difference to her future if she resigned or not today.

I also don't buy letting Wallace off the hook, his resignation would precipitate a full on rebellion overnight and Boris will be removed by 9am. The Ukraine policy doesn't change either way. If Wallace wants the leadership he should resign tonight.

Assassins of PMs don't become Tory PMs as Heseltine discovered. It was the Thatcher loyalist Major who succeeded her

Johnson replaced May.

And that was the second consecutive Tory Prime Monister he'd knifed.

Casino_Royale said:

rottenborough said:

Harry Cole
@MrHarryCole
Sounds like plan is to appoint a new Chancellor this evening.

Er, how could that not be the plan?

Sterling will tank in the morning if there's no Chancellor.

Leon said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genuinely scary.

Public universities in Florida will be required to survey both faculty and students on their political beliefs and viewpoints, with the institutions at risk of losing their funding if the responses are not satisfactory to the state's Republican-led legislature.

The unprecedented project, which was tucked into a law signed Tuesday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is part of a long-running, nationwide right-wing push to promote "intellectual diversity" on campuses — though worries over a lack of details on the survey's privacy protections, and questions over what the results may ultimately be used for, hover over the venture.

Based on the bill's language, survey responses will not necessarily be anonymous — sparking worries among many professors and other university staff that they may be targeted, held back in their careers or even fired for their beliefs.

According to the bill's sponsor, state Sen. Ray Rodrigues, faculty will not be promoted or fired based on their responses, but, as The Tampa Bay Times reported Tuesday, the bill itself does not back up those claims.

https://www.salon.com/2021/06/23/desantis-signs-bill-requiring-florida-students-professors-to-register-political-views-with-state/

No. Completely justified. The horrendous onethink on American campuses has to be challenged. They are 99% Democrat and 98% Woke, yet the rest of America really is not, and this gulf is bad for any country

TheScreamingEagles said:

Reshuffle latest:

Hearing that Steve Barclay could replace Sajid Javid as health secretary. Source tells me this is likely

There's also discussions in No 10 about Liz Truss as the new chancellor but nothing firm on that front yet


https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1544400487180603399

Carnyx said:

Andy_JS said:

Just taken an 8 hour break from politics while visiting Wimbledon. What the hell's going on?

Zimbabwe bringing back gold coins. Maybe the UK should do too.

Casino_Royale said:

Carnyx said:

Leon said:

Gardenwalker said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?

I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.

They are pretending that nobody remembers.

But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy


So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers

However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go

"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.

He did get it done.

And, now, there's no use for him anymore.

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Leon said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Genuinely scary.

Public universities in Florida will be required to survey both faculty and students on their political beliefs and viewpoints, with the institutions at risk of losing their funding if the responses are not satisfactory to the state's Republican-led legislature.

The unprecedented project, which was tucked into a law signed Tuesday by Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, is part of a long-running, nationwide right-wing push to promote "intellectual diversity" on campuses — though worries over a lack of details on the survey's privacy protections, and questions over what the results may ultimately be used for, hover over the venture.

Based on the bill's language, survey responses will not necessarily be anonymous — sparking worries among many professors and other university staff that they may be targeted, held back in their careers or even fired for their beliefs.

According to the bill's sponsor, state Sen. Ray Rodrigues, faculty will not be promoted or fired based on their responses, but, as The Tampa Bay Times reported Tuesday, the bill itself does not back up those claims.

https://www.salon.com/2021/06/23/desantis-signs-bill-requiring-florida-students-professors-to-register-political-views-with-state/

No. Completely justified. The horrendous onethink on American campuses has to be challenged. They are 99% Democrat and 98% Woke, yet the rest of America really is not, and this gulf is bad for any country

Liberty University says "Hi!" And Oral Roberts U says "Howdy!"

U of Notre Dame says "Don't woke one for the Trumper!"

Wharton School of U of Pennsylvania says "Sorry!"

Beibheirli_C said:

Can we finally agree that whatever else it does, Eton does not turn out geniuses or superbly educated, mentally versatile people fit to run the country?

CorrectHorseBattery said:

MaxPB said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO

You keep harping on about this but Boris loses his seat, there's no way he will call an election.

It's that or lose PM, it is all about Johnson. GE this year.

Casino_Royale said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO

That would violate all three Lascelles principles.

Denying one could be Her Maj's finest hour.

ydoethur said:

HYUFD said:

ydoethur said:

HYUFD said:

MaxPB said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

MaxPB said:

Gardenwalker said:

wooliedyed said:

Re cabinet not quitting. They may simply assume the game is up and they are best placed to fight for the leadership from cabinet. Patel, Raab, Truss probably all see themselves as potential 'cabinet agreed caretaker'

Patel won’t be re-appointed. She is unpopular, and only got the present job for culture-war style shits and giggles.

Raab is quite dim, and is likely caught in some headlights somewhere. He too will not survive Johnson.

Truss is a WTF.
She had her chance and she’s blown it.
She’ll be another casualty therefore.

We are going to see quite a lot of the fatberg dislodged, I think.

Patel will definitely make a comeback, probably in the same position. The next leader will need to get backing from the Tory right and keeping Patel in place deporting people to Rwanda guarantees that.

I'd honestly be shocked if whoever wins moves Patel out of post, only a promotion to Foreign Sec would be plausible IMO if they wanted a new Home Sec. No way she'll take a demotion and they will need her on side.

She's too much of a national security risk to be Foreign Secretary.

Maybe, but Patel is a survivor. I think her lack of leadership credentials is why it doesn't make a difference to her future if she resigned or not today.

I also don't buy letting Wallace off the hook, his resignation would precipitate a full on rebellion overnight and Boris will be removed by 9am. The Ukraine policy doesn't change either way. If Wallace wants the leadership he should resign tonight.

Assassins of PMs don't become Tory PMs as Heseltine discovered. It was the Thatcher loyalist Major who succeeded her

Johnson replaced May.

And that was the second consecutive Tory Prime Monister he'd knifed.

Johnson didn't assassinate Thatcher, May resigned after the disastrous 2019 local elections not because Johnson resigned over Brexit the year before on a point of principle

Er...what's the relevance of Thatcher? I was thinking of Cameron.

And if you think Johnson had nothing to do with May's downfall, I have a bridge to sell you. Heseltine resigned a full five years before he toppled Thatcher, doesn't mean he was innocent of it.

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

BREAKING Steve Barclay is the new Health Secretary

Good appointment, a hard worker

BartholomewRoberts said:

Casino_Royale said:

Carnyx said:

Leon said:

Gardenwalker said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?

I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.

They are pretending that nobody remembers.

But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy


So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers

However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go

"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.

He did get it done.

And, now, there's no use for him anymore.

This. 💯

Carnyx said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Casino_Royale said:

Carnyx said:

Leon said:

Gardenwalker said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?

I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.

They are pretending that nobody remembers.

But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy


So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers

However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go

"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.

He did get it done.

And, now, there's no use for him anymore.

This. 💯

I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.

Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.

CorrectHorseBattery said:

So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!

TheScreamingEagles said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

SandyRentool said:

In a parallel universe Prime Minister Miliband just enjoyed an afternoon at the tennis.

Best PM we never had other than John Smith

He's not even in the 100 of best PMs we never had.

Ken Clarke, Denis Healey, Roy Mason et al.

CorrectHorseBattery said:

So quick question, PB Tories will still find a way to tell us KS would be worse!

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO

That would violate all three Lascelles principles.

Denying one could be Her Maj's finest hour.

She'll do whatever her PM tells her to do, just look at her granting the 2019 prorogation.

CorrectHorseBattery said:

SandyRentool said:

In a parallel universe Prime Minister Miliband just enjoyed an afternoon at the tennis.

Best PM we never had other than John Smith

SandyRentool said:

In a parallel universe Prime Minister Miliband just enjoyed an afternoon at the tennis.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO

That would violate all three Lascelles principles.

Denying one could be Her Maj's finest hour.

She'll do whatever her PM tells her to do, just look at her granting the 2019 prorogation.

Scott_xP said:

ROFL

Stand off in No10.

Boris wants Liz Truss to become Chancellor.

But Nadhim Zahawi says he will quit if he isn't moved from Education to No11.
https://twitter.com/thejonnyreilly/status/1544410985007562759

Scott_xP said:

ROFL

Stand off in No10.

Boris wants Liz Truss to become Chancellor.

But Nadhim Zahawi says he will quit if he isn't moved from Education to No11.
https://twitter.com/thejonnyreilly/status/1544410985007562759

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Casino_Royale said:

Carnyx said:

Leon said:

Gardenwalker said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?

I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.

They are pretending that nobody remembers.

But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy


So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers

However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go

"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.

He did get it done.

And, now, there's no use for him anymore.

Not if you live in NI, or care about the economy

rottenborough said:

Given that this is the 2020s, can we expect Durham police to announce a FPN at 11:59am tomorrow?

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Scott_xP said:

BREAKING Steve Barclay is the new Health Secretary

Good appointment, a hard worker

Hardly matters as he will be out in days

Steve Barclay also a Leaver to replace the Remainer Javid

BartholomewRoberts said:

Carnyx said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Casino_Royale said:

Carnyx said:

Leon said:

Gardenwalker said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?

I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.

They are pretending that nobody remembers.

But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy


So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers

However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go

"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.

He did get it done.

And, now, there's no use for him anymore.

This. 💯

I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.

Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.

NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.

rottenborough said:

Given that this is the 2020s, can we expect Durham police to announce a FPN at 11:59am tomorrow?

BartholomewRoberts said:

Carnyx said:

BartholomewRoberts said:

Casino_Royale said:

Carnyx said:

Leon said:

Gardenwalker said:

SeaShantyIrish2 said:

Remember golden days of yore, when PBers fulminated at the indecency of referring to the PM as BoJo?

I remember the golden days when a goodly proportion of PB Tories thought Boris was their saviour.

They are pretending that nobody remembers.

But he was the saviour of the Tory party - and the country. He got Brexit done, by winning a large majority, and if that had not happened the Tories would have descended into terrible internal warfare - as the whole country went on to an absolutely catastrophic 2nd referendum. Just try and imagine how that would have gone, as it was boycotted by millions of Leavers (like me). There you go. What do you do after that? After a botched 2nd vote with half the voters not showing up? That’s the end of British democracy


So many 2nd voters - such as Keir Starmer - like to pretend this would not have happened. Those Remainers that do now belatedly realise this want us to conveniently forget all about their demands for a 2nd referendum. Utter Wankers

However, the good that Boris did then is now seriously outweighed by his many flaws and unforced errors. He has to go

"got Brexit done". Must tell my Belfast chum that.

He did get it done.

And, now, there's no use for him anymore.

This. 💯

I can never Understand the desperation of PBTories to claim that Brexit is done, with NI an unresolved running sore which is left both in and out of the UK/EU, a full *FIVE YEARS* AFTER THE VOTE, AND MORE YEARS SINCE IT WAS FLAGGED UP AS AN ISSUE.

Casting Mr Johnson out into the wilderness won't get rid of that original Brexiter sin.

NI has been a running sore my entire life, and for decades before I was born too.

This country will always have running sores. Always has done, always will do. But Brexit is done.

What we're dealing with now is post-Brexit.

kle4 said:

Carnyx said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Casino_Royale said:

CorrectHorseBattery said:

Genuinely Johnson will call an election to get rid of people plotting, his only way out. Nailed on IMHO

That would violate all three Lascelles principles.

Denying one could be Her Maj's finest hour.

She'll do whatever her PM tells her to do, just look at her granting the 2019 prorogation.

What's thew point of royalty (except to protect us from RCs, according to some on PB)? Will be very interesting to see what happens.

It's to be a figurehead. If people are arguing that they actually want the Queen to overrule the PM, I don't believe them unless they are an uber-monarchist. It makes zero sense otherwise.

DecrepiterJohnL said:

rottenborough said:

Given that this is the 2020s, can we expect Durham police to announce a FPN at 11:59am tomorrow?

A long night for Keir Starmer having to prepare six deadly questions for PMQs while also knowing Durham plod might put the kibosh on it.

williamglenn said:

The Lib Dems have found a scapegoat:



https://twitter.com/sean_kemp/status/1544392952671338498

Scott_xP said:

ROFL

Stand off in No10.

Boris wants Liz Truss to become Chancellor.

But Nadhim Zahawi says he will quit if he isn't moved from Education to No11.
https://twitter.com/thejonnyreilly/status/1544410985007562759