The collapse of Sunak as seen through the eyes of punters – politicalbetting.com

It comes as something as a shock to look back to January when Chancellor Sunak’s “Number 10” chances were riding high and he was approaching evens in the Next PM betting.
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Turn up, get the 'first', wander off again..2 -
2nd, but as previous poster left I think it counts as 1st
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Am I about to be banished to GB News for telling Leon about DALLE-2 ?7
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Given that the top six add up to 58%, is it fair to say that this is a wide open market?0
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And finally here’s @HugoGye on the PM’s attempts to cut back on leaks - at least leaks against him - by shrinking the inner circle meetings.
“It’s not a happy ship at the moment,” a source told i.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-shrinks-inner-circle-as-no-10-and-treasury-seek-to-crack-down-on-leaks-15657430 -
Neil Warnock announces his retirement from football management.0
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In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/15127353191032586263 -
The current assumption has to be that Boris will lead the Tories into another election, SKS will be the Labour leader and it is entirely possible that the Tories might lose their majority giving a premiership, however precarious, to SKS.
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.2 -
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/15127353191032586261 -
Everton 1 Man U 0.1
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LOL...Man Utd are utter crap.dixiedean said:Everton 1 Man U 0.
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Presumably he also wants to concentrate on his Senate race.FrancisUrquhart said:Neil Warnock announces his retirement from football management.
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If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.0 -
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.0 -
As I understand it people have been arrested for holding up entirely blank placards and in one case a piece of paper with 'two words' written on it.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/15127353191032586260 -
Hunt. That's what my late mother used to call him. She had a wide range of offensive nicknames for just about everybody.DavidL said:
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.1 -
And people question genetics? Ha.Dura_Ace said:
Hunt. That's what my late mother used to call him. She had a wide range of offensive nicknames for just about everybody.DavidL said:
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.8 -
Am I the only one seeing the site rendering as completely buggered up?0
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Fine for me on iPhoneStark_Dawning said:Am I the only one seeing the site rendering as completely buggered up?
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A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
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Naah, they are all the way down the rabbit hole now. The Johnsonite wing of the party were pretty aggrieved by California Scheming pushing and briefing and not being a Boosterite knobber. So once the Big Dog inevitably craps on a lawn even he can't just ignore, surely they will anoint someone proper.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Remember that everything important is at stake. Important being the ability to trouser public money for their friends and patrons. The ability to degrade the public trust so that scrutiny can be dodged or even removed. The ability to reverse some of the worst excesses in the permissive society like Channel 4 and the Rule of Law.
So no, not Mad-Eye Hunt. They'll go for Javid. Or Williamson. Or Dorries.2 -
I had him as ferret eyed, but recognised the description.Dura_Ace said:
Hunt. That's what my late mother used to call him. She had a wide range of offensive nicknames for just about everybody.DavidL said:
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Just about everybody ... how did she address you ?0 -
What odds are you wanting?RochdalePioneers said:
Naah, they are all the way down the rabbit hole now. The Johnsonite wing of the party were pretty aggrieved by California Scheming pushing and briefing and not being a Boosterite knobber. So once the Big Dog inevitably craps on a lawn even he can't just ignore, surely they will anoint someone proper.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Remember that everything important is at stake. Important being the ability to trouser public money for their friends and patrons. The ability to degrade the public trust so that scrutiny can be dodged or even removed. The ability to reverse some of the worst excesses in the permissive society like Channel 4 and the Rule of Law.
So no, not Mad-Eye Hunt. They'll go for Javid. Or Williamson. Or Dorries.0 -
On energy policy: https://twitter.com/michaelujacobs/status/15120734749901701213
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Okay now - a Chrome cache thing.ping said:
Fine for me on iPhoneStark_Dawning said:Am I the only one seeing the site rendering as completely buggered up?
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It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)2 -
Its a hypothetical. What would Big Dog need to do to get removed?DavidL said:
What odds are you wanting?RochdalePioneers said:
Naah, they are all the way down the rabbit hole now. The Johnsonite wing of the party were pretty aggrieved by California Scheming pushing and briefing and not being a Boosterite knobber. So once the Big Dog inevitably craps on a lawn even he can't just ignore, surely they will anoint someone proper.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Remember that everything important is at stake. Important being the ability to trouser public money for their friends and patrons. The ability to degrade the public trust so that scrutiny can be dodged or even removed. The ability to reverse some of the worst excesses in the permissive society like Channel 4 and the Rule of Law.
So no, not Mad-Eye Hunt. They'll go for Javid. Or Williamson. Or Dorries.0 -
Lying to Parliament? Nope.RochdalePioneers said:
Its a hypothetical. What would Big Dog need to do to get removed?DavidL said:
What odds are you wanting?RochdalePioneers said:
Naah, they are all the way down the rabbit hole now. The Johnsonite wing of the party were pretty aggrieved by California Scheming pushing and briefing and not being a Boosterite knobber. So once the Big Dog inevitably craps on a lawn even he can't just ignore, surely they will anoint someone proper.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Remember that everything important is at stake. Important being the ability to trouser public money for their friends and patrons. The ability to degrade the public trust so that scrutiny can be dodged or even removed. The ability to reverse some of the worst excesses in the permissive society like Channel 4 and the Rule of Law.
So no, not Mad-Eye Hunt. They'll go for Javid. Or Williamson. Or Dorries.
Breaking laws that he was responsible for? Nope.
Underminng and rubbishing his own Chancellor? Nope.
At the moment I am not sure that one murder would cover it.4 -
Actually it's the old nature vs nurture dilemma. We'd have to find @Dura_Ace's long-lost identical twin brother to reach a tentative conclusion about genetics.DavidL said:
And people question genetics? Ha.Dura_Ace said:
Hunt. That's what my late mother used to call him. She had a wide range of offensive nicknames for just about everybody.DavidL said:
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.4 -
Not get a CON majority at the next election.RochdalePioneers said:
Its a hypothetical. What would Big Dog need to do to get removed?DavidL said:
What odds are you wanting?RochdalePioneers said:
Naah, they are all the way down the rabbit hole now. The Johnsonite wing of the party were pretty aggrieved by California Scheming pushing and briefing and not being a Boosterite knobber. So once the Big Dog inevitably craps on a lawn even he can't just ignore, surely they will anoint someone proper.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Remember that everything important is at stake. Important being the ability to trouser public money for their friends and patrons. The ability to degrade the public trust so that scrutiny can be dodged or even removed. The ability to reverse some of the worst excesses in the permissive society like Channel 4 and the Rule of Law.
So no, not Mad-Eye Hunt. They'll go for Javid. Or Williamson. Or Dorries.3 -
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.1 -
Young Fella. Even when I got into my 50s.Nigelb said:
I had him as ferret eyed, but recognised the description.Dura_Ace said:
Hunt. That's what my late mother used to call him. She had a wide range of offensive nicknames for just about everybody.DavidL said:
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Just about everybody ... how did she address you ?
She used to refer to the vicar as the "Chernobyl Fireman" because he had a particularly ugly and florid face.
The guy in the Post Office was "Mucky Trumpet" because he had a mustache.
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They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.0 -
On this green card business, did anyone note that it means while he was campaigning for Brexit, he was committed to becoming a permanent resident of the US ?
https://www.rishisunak.com/news/why-i-will-vote-britain-leave-eu-0
I like this bit.
…. For me, this is a once in a generation opportunity for our country to take back control of its destiny. Of course, leaving will bring some uncertainty, but on balance I believe that our nation will be freer, fairer and more prosperous outside the EU. Outside the EU, we can decide our own immigration policy, ensure our own laws and courts are sovereign, and enhance our position as a dynamic, outward-looking trading economy….1 -
Come out as a Remainer?MikeSmithson said:
Not get a CON majority at the next election.RochdalePioneers said:
Its a hypothetical. What would Big Dog need to do to get removed?DavidL said:
What odds are you wanting?RochdalePioneers said:
Naah, they are all the way down the rabbit hole now. The Johnsonite wing of the party were pretty aggrieved by California Scheming pushing and briefing and not being a Boosterite knobber. So once the Big Dog inevitably craps on a lawn even he can't just ignore, surely they will anoint someone proper.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.
Remember that everything important is at stake. Important being the ability to trouser public money for their friends and patrons. The ability to degrade the public trust so that scrutiny can be dodged or even removed. The ability to reverse some of the worst excesses in the permissive society like Channel 4 and the Rule of Law.
So no, not Mad-Eye Hunt. They'll go for Javid. Or Williamson. Or Dorries.0 -
Forgive me, but that's a thread mainly about political analysis, not Energy Policy. Istm that it is actually about framing. Michael Jacobs is a professor of political economy, not energy policy.bondegezou said:On energy policy: https://twitter.com/michaelujacobs/status/1512073474990170121
I don't think the Political Economists of Sheffield University have much authority on the latter, given their history.
One of their greatest hits some years ago was to declare that reduced VAT on energy was actually a massive subsidy to Energy Companies. Now every 'lobbyist for the poor' (eg Rachel Reeves) is demanding that VAT on energy be cut further 'to save people money'.0 -
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.0 -
Doubling down.
Western officials say Russian general Alexander Dvornikov, who played a significant role in the Russian bombardment of Syria, has been put in charge of Moscow's operations in Ukraine0 -
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Ironically meant - so not aimed at you at all! Sorry fi it seemed to be.RochdalePioneers said:
If that was aimed at me I'm a trader, not a trade expert. But the commentators on the likes of Kent Live are in denial.Carnyx said:
"Trade experts." I wonder if we know any?RochdalePioneers said:Good morning all. Unless you live in Kent where its Day 10 of Brexit hell. Photos now on Twitter of half-empty lorry decks on ferries which rather puts the final "its the ferries not Brexit" argument to the sword.
Have been entertained by some of the local news coverage. Creatively and imaginatively finding ways to describe the issues without mentioning the B word. They did so once earlier in the week and generated a lot of ANGRY comments from trade experts INDIGNANT that anyone could possibly blame Brexit.
Ah well.
It isn't the P&O issue - half-empty ferries not a shortage of space
It isn't because its Easter - because family cars don't go on truck decks or freight shuttles
It isn't maintenance downtime - as with the other two issues they would impact both sides of the channel equally and there is zero disruption in France
It IS the collapse of the customs computer system. The one that HMRC told the Tories wouldn't be able to cope with the number of transactions. That is being expected to anyway.
The real long term damage is on Britain's ability to trade. Truckers describing this as "Manston 2". As in being corralled in their trucks with no facilities for days on end. We saw a drop off in EU companies willing to come across to the UK after that debacle, and we can expect the same after this. Paying astronomical money to bring in anything slowly.1 -
Let’s hope they send him to the front lines in Mariopol, to take a look around.Nigelb said:Doubling down.
Western officials say Russian general Alexander Dvornikov, who played a significant role in the Russian bombardment of Syria, has been put in charge of Moscow's operations in Ukraine0 -
Gove would be frog eyesDavidL said:
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.0 -
There was nothing in Western free market theory that advocated for selling state assets at fractions of the market price for the bribe paying politically connected. That was the choice of Russians.another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.0 -
The Chinese government seems to be losing control of the situation in Shanghai.
https://twitter.com/cam_l/status/1512646118575812612
https://twitter.com/MikeSmithAFR/status/15125577205449031690 -
You say that but it happened in Iraq as well after the free marketeer Americans invaded.Aslan said:
There was nothing in Western free market theory that advocated for selling state assets at fractions of the market price for the bribe paying politically connected. That was the choice of Russians.another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.2 -
Sorry, I must work harder on my childish abuse.malcolmg said:
Gove would be frog eyesDavidL said:
Rat eyes? I would have a wild stab at Gove but only that. Right now Ben Wallace looks the most likely but it is very hard to maintain that level of profile as Defence Secretary for long.Dura_Ace said:
If they had to make a quick unscheduled replacement in the event of (another) catastrophic Johnson fuck up the tories would just go for a safe pair of centrist hands in a 'save the furniture' strategy when defeat is inevitable. Maybe Rat Eyes?DavidL said:
The alternative is that Boris does not recover or cocks up something else and someone else leads the Tories into the next election and is accordingly next PM. Quite hard to call on those 2 options but the lack of a clear successor now on the Tory side makes that side of the bet a lot less attractive.0 -
I'm mildly fascinated by how deranged many of those sensible, centrist paladins of Blairism become in old age.
https://twitter.com/jamiedmaxwell/status/1512748122178572288?s=20&t=uH7Z9pgg07teKcFG5civSg
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With a mobile phone. Don't forget that.Sandpit said:
Let’s hope they send him to the front lines in Mariopol, to take a look around.Nigelb said:Doubling down.
Western officials say Russian general Alexander Dvornikov, who played a significant role in the Russian bombardment of Syria, has been put in charge of Moscow's operations in Ukraine0 -
Anybody help me 're turning off autocorrect on a tablet0
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Those conmen held and still hold high status positions in academe and industry. Our establishment told theirs what was happening was acceptable regardless of the society it was producing. .another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.0 -
You could have anticipated the reaction…FrancisUrquhart said:Am I about to be banished to GB News for telling Leon about DALLE-2 ?
And to be fair I’m not the only one freaking out. There are artists on Twitter saying “that’s it, my life is over” etc etc
I don’t think it’s any more revelatory than GPT3 (and it is the same basic model?) but because it is visual it has waaaay more impact. The feeling of astonishment is instant. The Shock of the New0 -
Mm, bit unfair not to give the credit to Mr Murphy. Mr Maxwell has a nice pic of Mull and Ardnamurchan from the air a few tweets earlier, too, btw, as far as Eigg and Mallaig.Theuniondivvie said:I'm mildly fascinated by how deranged many of those sensible, centrist paladins of Blairism become in old age.
https://twitter.com/jamiedmaxwell/status/1512748122178572288?s=20&t=uH7Z9pgg07teKcFG5civSg0 -
Theuniondivvie said:
I'm mildly fascinated by how deranged many of those sensible, centrist paladins of Blairism become in old age.
https://twitter.com/jamiedmaxwell/status/1512748122178572288?s=20&t=uH7Z9pgg07teKcFG5civSg
Seems to happen to most of us as we age. Changing our opinions is hard and must be harder when you've have such success.0 -
That the Russian establishment was massively enriching itself had nothing to do with it of course.MightyAlex said:
Those conmen held and still hold high status positions in academe and industry. Our establishment told theirs what was happening was acceptable regardless of the society it was producing. .another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.0 -
ipad? Settings > General > Keyboard > Auto-Correction.malcolmg said:Anybody help me 're turning off autocorrect on a tablet
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On an iPad it’s Settings>General and then it’s part of the list of keyboard settings.malcolmg said:Anybody help me 're turning off autocorrect on a tablet
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Perhaps if this game was extended for another 24 hours or so United might score.1
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Chinese government being a bunch of Knuts trying to hold back the Omicron tide.williamglenn said:The Chinese government seems to be losing control of the situation in Shanghai.
https://twitter.com/cam_l/status/1512646118575812612
https://twitter.com/MikeSmithAFR/status/15125577205449031690 -
Couldn’t get a picture from quite at the top - too many damn trees there,. Got this one about 50m from the summit. Am I a mountaineer now?
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I’m not sure Shanghai is necessarily representative of China as a whole - given it’s history, it’s a bit unique. However, it’s clear in an age of social media that the authorities don’t really know how to react - gunning down masses of looters would cause a firestorm when posted on social platforms even if the censors took them down quickly.another_richard said:
Chinese government being a bunch of Knuts trying to hold back the Omicron tide.williamglenn said:The Chinese government seems to be losing control of the situation in Shanghai.
https://twitter.com/cam_l/status/1512646118575812612
https://twitter.com/MikeSmithAFR/status/15125577205449031690 -
LOL:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/i-tried-to-put-russia-on-another-path/ar-AAVYglE
Can be summarised as “it’s not my fault”
The fact that Clinton was President from 92 to 2000, and could have encouraged another path is of no relevance whatsoever.1 -
Have they even admitted anyone has died of Covid in China in the last year?another_richard said:
Chinese government being a bunch of Knuts trying to hold back the Omicron tide.williamglenn said:The Chinese government seems to be losing control of the situation in Shanghai.
https://twitter.com/cam_l/status/1512646118575812612
https://twitter.com/MikeSmithAFR/status/15125577205449031690 -
I'm not blaming anyone outright. We provided the economic framework through advisers and they the greed and undemocratic norms.another_richard said:
That the Russian establishment was massively enriching itself had nothing to do with it of course.MightyAlex said:
Those conmen held and still hold high status positions in academe and industry. Our establishment told theirs what was happening was acceptable regardless of the society it was producing. .another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.
What I struggle with was Russia being pushed down the path of oligarchism by our political and economic hubris. Yes we won the cold war but we've helped create a hotter one 30 years later.1 -
Yes of course! I'd forgotten that we occupied Russia and appointed an interim government that implemented policies chosen by western governments.MightyAlex said:
I'm not blaming anyone outright. We provided the economic framework through advisers and they the greed and undemocratic norms.another_richard said:
That the Russian establishment was massively enriching itself had nothing to do with it of course.MightyAlex said:
Those conmen held and still hold high status positions in academe and industry. Our establishment told theirs what was happening was acceptable regardless of the society it was producing. .another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.
What I struggle with was Russia being pushed down the path of oligarchism by economists and politicians blinkered by hubris. Yes we won the cold war but we've helped create a hotter one 30 years later.
It was a great pity that a pragmatic transitional regime that wasn't too corrupt didn't emerge and I dare say the international financial institutions didn't help matter.1 -
You haven’t just bet a wallet of money on a eclass surfdome?malcolmg said:Anybody help me 're turning off autocorrect on a tablet
The sad news is the inventor of autocorrect died this week. The funfair is on Wendy.5 -
Great Expectations on BBC2 at the moment if anyone wants to see a real masterpiece. The chances of AI creating this or similar are precisely fuck all.1
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TBF, there aren't too many dazzling successes among the post soviet states. Estonia, perhaps, but it went through some hard times to get there. The problems of the Soviet Union weren't cured merely by political changes, and in many cases haven't actually gone away or even been improved by them.NorthofStoke said:
Yes of course! I'd forgotten that we occupied Russia and appointed an interim government that implemented policies chosen by western governments.MightyAlex said:
I'm not blaming anyone outright. We provided the economic framework through advisers and they the greed and undemocratic norms.another_richard said:
That the Russian establishment was massively enriching itself had nothing to do with it of course.MightyAlex said:
Those conmen held and still hold high status positions in academe and industry. Our establishment told theirs what was happening was acceptable regardless of the society it was producing. .another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.
What I struggle with was Russia being pushed down the path of oligarchism by economists and politicians blinkered by hubris. Yes we won the cold war but we've helped create a hotter one 30 years later.
It was a great pity that a pragmatic transitional regime that wasn't too corrupt didn't emerge and I dare say the international financial institutions didn't help matter.0 -
Everton 1 United 0.
Absolute scenes at Goodison!3 -
O/T Sri Lanka. Why are people surprised about the situation in Sri Lanka? 20% of the population have known what these people are like for 20 or so years? Where were the protests when geonocide and crimes against humanity were happening in Sri Lanka? Let the corrupt war criminals and their saffron clad allies burn in hell!1
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Yes that's analysis not self-flagellation.MightyAlex said:
I'm not blaming anyone outright. We provided the economic framework through advisers and they the greed and undemocratic norms.another_richard said:
That the Russian establishment was massively enriching itself had nothing to do with it of course.MightyAlex said:
Those conmen held and still hold high status positions in academe and industry. Our establishment told theirs what was happening was acceptable regardless of the society it was producing. .another_richard said:
Every country has to deal with chancers and conmen.MightyAlex said:
They did have help in fucking it up. Much of the economic theory inflicted on Russia was advocated for by western free marketeers.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Most countries tell them to do one whereas the Russian establishment loved what they were offering.
What I struggle with was Russia being pushed down the path of oligarchism by our political and economic hubris. Yes we won the cold war but we've helped create a hotter one 30 years later.0 -
Which has suddenly raised a burning question in my smoldering mind:malcolmg said:2nd, but as previous poster left I think it counts as 1st
Is there a definitive list of PB "firsts"? If not, why not? (Slack management?)
Move that OGH issue decree to RCS and TSE to immediate begin process of identifying & verifying the first comment on every PB post! Prospectively AND retrospective!!0 -
Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/15123809382772490250 -
FPT
It's called "Live Free or Die Hard" in the USA, as an "homage" to the Granite State.Luckyguy1983 said:
By mistake one assumes.Sunil_Prasannan said:By coincidence Die Hard 4.0 was on "Great Movies" just now
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If one is to look at the situation in Russia after the fall of communism.... a small group of people got insanely rich and a small middle class emerged... but for a lot of people, life is clearly a lot more tough than those in post soviet states that have joined the EU, or even in a place halfway, like Ukraine.
Ultimately, the Russian government has failed Russians - a government who keep saying 'well it could be worse and we need order instead of chaos, look what happened in the 1990's', for which they in turn try and blame 'the west' which is actually just a way of deflecting attention away from its own greed and incompetence.
The saddest manifestation of this is Russian soldiers looting washing machines in Ukraine, it is just tragic and sad; looks like a failing, backward country.0 -
Shirley Temple - On the Good Ship LollipopScott_xP said:And finally here’s @HugoGye on the PM’s attempts to cut back on leaks - at least leaks against him - by shrinking the inner circle meetings.
“It’s not a happy ship at the moment,” a source told i.
https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-shrinks-inner-circle-as-no-10-and-treasury-seek-to-crack-down-on-leaks-1565743
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The South of France, Orange, etc., Is very much the FN heartland. Pretty much all their elected officials are there. (Which always surprised me: I would have thought they would have been stronger in the Past de Calais region.)williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/15123809382772490250 -
Best Ukraine cartoon to date for cat lovers:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FP5YdQMXoAQIWHi?format=jpg&name=large
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1950 Republican campaign theme - "Who lost China?" Answer - "The Democrats!"
2022 Republican campaign theme - "Who lost Russia?" Answer - "Ditto!"
It worked then so they reckon it can work again.0 -
Apparently also a Russian Navy veteran.
https://twitter.com/avalaina/status/1512566959279325186
78-year-old writer Yevhen Bal died near Mariupol after being tortured by Russians.
They found the photo with Ukrainian soldiers in his house and were beating him for three days.
Source: Pavlo Kushch, a representative of the National Union of Writers of Ukraine0 -
Unconfirmed reports that the PM is or was in Kiev meeting Zelensky.0
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Johnson reported in Kyiv.
https://twitter.com/UkrEmbLondon/status/15127915286070313030 -
Not called the FN any more.rcs1000 said:
The South of France, Orange, etc., Is very much the FN heartland. Pretty much all their elected officials are there. (Which always surprised me: I would have thought they would have been stronger in the Past de Calais region.)williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
Now it’s RN. “National Rally”. Part of the rebranding1 -
Well, they kept Boris's visit to Kyiv quiet.. Not _everything_ leaks from No.10 it seems.
https://twitter.com/UkrEmbLondon/status/15127915286070313031 -
Many countries that were formerly part of the Soviet Union / Warsaw Pact have thrived. Look at Estonia, or Slovenia, or Poland, or Czechia.another_richard said:
Russia had a chance to create a free, modern country after 1991 and they fucked it up.Nigelb said:
It's basically just a worse run version of Soviet Russia now, isn't it ?rottenborough said:
A man who runs a computer shop in Moscow has been fined 100k roubles apparently for an anti-war poster in his shop.ydoethur said:
The officer who made that arrest is to be commended, and should uphold the law without fear or favour.Nigelb said:In St.Petersburg, a man was fined for holding during anti-war rally a poster which says:"The war has brought so much grief that it is impossible to forget it, there is no forgiveness for those who again build aggressive plans."
The funny thing is that quote is from #Putin's speech.
https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1512735319103258626
He now plans to put a poster that says “There was a sign here for which a 100,000 ruble fine was imposed.”
Well wishers have paid his fine.
(Source: NY Times)
Accepting and admitting they fucked it up isn't going to be easy for many Russians.
So instead they wallow in self-pity and self-entitlement and blaming the rest of the world.
Others, even when blessed with trillions in natural resources revenues, have not
Blaming the West for Putin seems a fairly ridiculous response.4 -
I'll tell you who else was strong in the South of France..rcs1000 said:
The South of France, Orange, etc., Is very much the FN heartland. Pretty much all their elected officials are there. (Which always surprised me: I would have thought they would have been stronger in the Past de Calais region.)williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
I'd guess many Pieds-Noirs resettling in the south also helped.
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I actually knew that, but old habits die hard.Leon said:
Not called the FN any more.rcs1000 said:
The South of France, Orange, etc., Is very much the FN heartland. Pretty much all their elected officials are there. (Which always surprised me: I would have thought they would have been stronger in the Past de Calais region.)williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
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williamglenn said:
Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
That’s an extraordinary video
I’m sure they selected lots of REALLY young people, but nonetheless the really young people look overwhelmingly delighted to see her. Thrilled, even. That’s not fake. She has star quality for them,
Of course her problem is 15 year olds can’t vote and 18 year olds don’t vote but… hmm….
Looking at that makes me think she might indeed win. Macron needs the crumblies to come out, big time0 -
It is, of course, well worth remembering that both Melenchon and Le Pen draw predominantly from the young, while Pecresse gets the oldies. Macron gets the middle aged.Leon said:williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
That’s an extraordinary video
I’m sure they selected lots of REALLY young people, but nonetheless the really young people look overwhelmingly delighted to see her. Thrilled, even. That’s not fake. She has star quality for them,
Of course her problem is 15 year olds can’t vote and 18 year olds don’t vote but… hmm….
Looking at that makes me think she might indeed win. Macron needs the crumblies to come out, big time0 -
It's a bit rough for Macron seeing as practically he's done more than any other leader in Europe for French consumer energy costs.williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
But I guess electorates don't do counterfactual gratitude.0 -
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F1: Albon disqualified from the race over a fuel irregularity.0
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But in a two way race, Le Pen - according to the polls - wins all age groups up to 55 IIRCrcs1000 said:
It is, of course, well worth remembering that both Melenchon and Le Pen draw predominantly from the young, while Pecresse gets the oldies. Macron gets the middle aged.Leon said:williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
That’s an extraordinary video
I’m sure they selected lots of REALLY young people, but nonetheless the really young people look overwhelmingly delighted to see her. Thrilled, even. That’s not fake. She has star quality for them,
Of course her problem is 15 year olds can’t vote and 18 year olds don’t vote but… hmm….
Looking at that makes me think she might indeed win. Macron needs the crumblies to come out, big time0 -
Nope, not disqualified from the race, kicked out of qualifying for not having any fuel left in the car when he stopped on track.Morris_Dancer said:F1: Albon disqualified from the race over a fuel irregularity.
He’ll start at the back tomorrow.
https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2022 Australian Grand Prix - Offence - Car 23 - Fuel sample.pdf0 -
From supporting Petain the puppet to supporting Putin's puppet has a certain logic to it.Theuniondivvie said:
I'll tell you who else was strong in the South of France..rcs1000 said:
The South of France, Orange, etc., Is very much the FN heartland. Pretty much all their elected officials are there. (Which always surprised me: I would have thought they would have been stronger in the Past de Calais region.)williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
I'd guess many Pieds-Noirs resettling in the south also helped.1 -
But this might be like Brexit.Pulpstar said:
It's a bit rough for Macron seeing as practically he's done more than any other leader in Europe for French consumer energy costs.williamglenn said:Quite a young crowd for Marine Le Pen in the south of France:
https://twitter.com/MLP_officiel/status/1512380938277249025
But I guess electorates don't do counterfactual gratitude.
British voters listened to all the sensible economic arguments against Brexit and said Yeah well fuck that, we want sovereignty. They may have been deluded, swindled, wrong and/or evil, but polls show sovereignty was THE most important argument (even more than migration)
Sometimes it’s not always “the economy, stupid”
France MAY be approaching one of these inflection points. I remain highly skeptical that Le Pen can win, but it’s gonna be close1 -
When all this ends the West is going to owe Ukraine a lot. Their sacrifice has brought the west together and made it much stronger. They have also shown the weakness of Russia and with any luck there may be big changes in Russia and Belarus. Let's hope we don't do the usual after a war and forget about the Ukrainians. Let's hope we really help them rebuild their country.15