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  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,243

    Yes, we have heating oil. Also a few Calor bottles for the house oven/annex heating and water. Calor likely to go through the roof by April, the oil supplier can't tell me what the price will be until the day before delivery. However many noughts that has after it, will need some (although Ash Die-back means plenty of wood to heat the rooms (until clean air laws means we can't burn that either).....
    We have heating oil delivered in rural Lincolnshire. By pure good fortune we had almost run out and so bought 1200 litres a few days before everything kicked off. Prices were already rising but we paid £850 for 1200 litres. Currently all deliveries are quoted as between £1700 and £1800 for 1000 litres. About 18 months ago we were paying less than £400 for 1000 litres. So it is a greater than 4 fold increase in cost in 18 months.

    We are okay thankfully as we have fires and wood burners in almost every room and a ready supply of wood from our own trees. I am certainly looking to get a wood fired boiler installed soon.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 14,437


    Rishi will not suspend the NI increase for several reasons, not least NHS and social care needs more money and this increase becomes a separate tax next year on pay slips affirming the extra funding

    It is not as unpopular as some think with yesterday's yougov having 43% in favour, 45% against

    It also creates a problem for Starmer going forward as he has opposed it and has not put forward a long term alternative

    I understand Rishi is to announce a wartime budget whatever that means ,but as far as your strategic review of energy supply is concerned Boris has said he will announce a new transitional energy policy with Kwarteng before the end of the month and expect to see granting of more domestic licences for production of our own oil and gas, onshore wind farms, and maybe Cambo oil field

    I am not expecting fracking to get the green light but do not ruie it out

    I predict an angry response from the green lobby but we have to accept it is idiotic to close off these areas of domestic self reliance to obtain them from importing not just from Russia but elsewhere

    Labour may well face quite a dilemma as this is a big change from their net zero aspiration

    This is one of the many challenges facing the country post this war, even if the war has concluded

    Apart from the usual partisan party political games, there's a lot of this that makes sense.

    And then I go out to see 155.9p per litre unleaded at my local Tesco's and diesel at an eyewatering 162.9p per litre with queues of cars six or seven deep. Like all addicts, the dealer can raise his prices yet we keep coming back for more. At what point and in what way do we start doing the real work (that means hard, unpopular and potentially election losing so the Conservatives won't do it) and start looking at weaning ourselves off the petroleum fix.

    That means looking or re-evaluating other transport forms such as rail, bus and the like. That also means re-evaluating the suburban lifestyle which doesn't mean it's all wrong - it means getting back to local shops providing local services and away from huge out-of-town shopping centres unless these are fully served by local buses. It means looking at how we work, how we live and how we interact in ways which reduce both our energy consumption and our dependence on oil/petrol.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,007
    edited March 2022

    Rishi and Boris as opposed to Starmer and Kwarteng? Why not Sunak, Johnson, Keir and Kwasi?

    It is not a problem for Starmer as that response is due to the artificial framing of the question. Labour will frame it differently, not denying that a funding increase is necessary but pointing out that a simple increase in the rate of NI is just about the worst way to raise taxes.
    It is a progressive tax and one labour would have supported previously

  • NorthstarNorthstar Posts: 140
    edited March 2022
    Really interesting article - you wonder if the Russians really will try assaulting (rather than blockading) Kyiv. As the article notes it would be stupid to do so but that doesn’t mean it won’t happen.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,515
    IanB2 said:

    You would do yourself a favour if you stopped going to these weird cult meetings.
    Was meeting you the point at which he changed his opinion?

    :smile:
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413
    Dura_Ace said:

    I'd like to see the scientific and engineering colossi of the west make a fucking wifi printer that works first.
    Not sure why the 'of the west' is in there - I think that goal is beyond anyone on the planet.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,113
    Heathener said:
    I am not saying we shouldn't be spending more on conventional weapons but those who claimed that big bad Russia was a threat to the whole of western Europe including us are looking increasingly silly as the Russian army gets its arse kicked in Ukraine and seems to be relying upon hiring mercenaries to keep up the fight.

    The reality we are seeing is that when NATO equipped troops meet Russian equipped troops it is a blood bath (just as we saw more than a decade ago in Iraq). When Russian airpower is used against NATO equipped anti-aircraft forces they lose unsustainable levels of planes and helicopters.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,318
    Dura_Ace said:

    I'd like to see the scientific and engineering colossi of the west make a fucking wifi printer that works first.
    When you say 'a fucking WiFi printer' do you mean one that only prints porn?

    Is the implication that yours has a Mary Whitehouse view on the subject?
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 54,708
    @ChristopherJM
    NEW: Russia will consider foreign shipments of weapons to Ukraine as “legitimate targets” for the Russian armed forces to attack, state-run RIA Novosti reports, citing Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov.


    https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1502608363456237570
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,513
    When the name “Schumacher” is mentioned in a football game, you know it’s a red card.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,318
    edited March 2022
    kle4 said:

    Not sure why the 'of the west' is in there - I think that goal is beyond anyone on the planet.
    Mine works OK. Well, I do need to reset it every six months but otherwise it does actually print wirelessly.

    That said, I do usually have it TP linked as it's much quicker.
  • stodge said:

    Apart from the usual partisan party political games, there's a lot of this that makes sense.

    And then I go out to see 155.9p per litre unleaded at my local Tesco's and diesel at an eyewatering 162.9p per litre with queues of cars six or seven deep. Like all addicts, the dealer can raise his prices yet we keep coming back for more. At what point and in what way do we start doing the real work (that means hard, unpopular and potentially election losing so the Conservatives won't do it) and start looking at weaning ourselves off the petroleum fix.

    That means looking or re-evaluating other transport forms such as rail, bus and the like. That also means re-evaluating the suburban lifestyle which doesn't mean it's all wrong - it means getting back to local shops providing local services and away from huge out-of-town shopping centres unless these are fully served by local buses. It means looking at how we work, how we live and how we interact in ways which reduce both our energy consumption and our dependence on oil/petrol.
    You add to the debate and just demonstrate how devilish difficult this is and very long term when the public will demand quick fixes that are just not there

    I followed a Tesla into Asda this morning and to be honest it looks and is very expensive which raises the other issue, climate change is not a problem for the wealthy who no doubt parade their green credentials whenever they can, but it is a real problem for most others and threatens to impoverish so many if we just accept all the green policies without a long transitional period, maybe 20 plus years
  • MattWMattW Posts: 26,515

    If more onshore wind farms survives contact with lobbying then that would be an interesting signal, as it would be indicative of a government response along the lines of, "Oh shit! What do we do now?" rather than one which seeks to use the crisis for short-term political advantage.

    As a Green I would always press for more to be done in terms of renewable energy - where's the tidal lagoons? - but drilling for more North Sea oil as a temporary expedient becomes more believable, and grudgingly acceptable, if it's genuinely accompanied by choices, such as more onshore wind farms, which will be equally unpalatable for others with a different view to me.
    I don't see the point of more onshore wind in general, as we are close to the point where offshore will be the same price or less expensive, and the environmental downside of onshore is much greater.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082

    Probably very. We know where they launch from. We very likely know what the targets are. They have a flight time of 8-15 minutes. They are extremely hot and emit a very clear target to lock onto for that time. Nowadays we have far more sophisticated satellite networks and AI than we did in the 1980s, when this was first mooted, and many more interceptors capable of super hypersonic flight.

    So yes, it is possible. I suspect the main obstacles are budgetary and political, not technological. But, if you have a nutcase, you need to prepare to defend against the nutcase.
    Things haven't changed much since https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentinel_program

    The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprint_(missile) is still insanely capable by modern standards - 5 second to *Mach 10*

    The problem is that MIRVs and ultra long range SLBMs have made protection very difficult.

    With multiple warheads, you are looking at 10+ warheads per missile. With ultra long range submarine launch missiles, you can launch from anywhere and take the *long route*. This is because, while ballistic missiles have to fly the great circle route between two points, you can go 2 directions along the great circle. So you end up looking at having to defend virtually 360 degrees.

    If we can ever get free-election lasers to work at high powers (essentially 60% efficient at converting electricity into laser light) then maybe.....
  • tlg86 said:

    When the name “Schumacher” is mentioned in a football game, you know it’s a red card.

    VAR is a joke.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    Cyclefree said:

    A handy guide to the stages of any project.

    1. Enthusiasm

    2. Disillusionment

    3. Panic

    4. Search for the guilty

    5. Punishment of the innocent

    6. Praise and honour for the non-participants.
    That's my favourite project plan. LOL...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,318

    That's my favourite project plan. LOL...
    Sounds more like the abject performance of Susan Acland Hood at the DfE.
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,277
    The tories are going to have to pivot to an explicitly anti-environmental position to head off Farage's latest auto-da-fe. He can make them do any mad shit he wants by threatening to siphon off some off their piss reeking OAP core vote. That's now been established.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,220
    edited March 2022
    MattW said:



    Stock had a crowd of 100 or more anonymous masked & hooded demonstrators turn up on the University Open Day to intimate her, and call for her sacking.

    "Forced out" or "Intimidated out" is quite a reasonable interpretation, I'd suggest.

    It's not something that a 50 year old female academic should have to face, just for disagreeing with someone's opinion and expressing that disagreement publicly.




    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2021/10/18/kathleen-stock-university-of-sussex-protest/


    What about 40 year old or 30 year old female academics?

    Emma Barnett has conducted a series of interviews with figures in this 'debate' on Woman's Hour, most recently Maya Forstater and Stock a few weeks ago. Barnett is pretty good at picking away at inconvenient truths for all the interviewees, particularly since I suspect her sympathies tend to be more in one direction.

    I listened to the Stock interview while driving on the M8 and may have missed some of the nuance because I was duelling with an arsehole in a white van trying to undertake me, but the gist of it seemed to be that gender self identification was a 'fiction' compared to the necessary and immutable truth of sex, and people who had their feelings hurt by this were snowflakes (I paraphrase). Otoh Barnett pointed out to her that she had left her employer by choice and said university had made statements supporting her, Stock said she had 'felt' unsupported and under threat. Apparently some feelings are more important than others.

    I'd say that a lot of the players in this (on both sides) have got high on their own supply of unfamiliar attention, and find it difficult to take that much offered piece of advice to step away from the keyboard.


  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    Lots of empty space
    Don’t be daft. We house refugees in existing cities and towns. They are hardly a significant additional land-use category.
  • Not even a yellow card.


  • Dura_Ace said:

    The tories are going to have to pivot to an explicitly anti-environmental position to head off Farage's latest auto-da-fe. He can make them do any mad shit he wants by threatening to siphon off some off their piss reeking OAP core vote. That's now been established.

    What a horrible description of the elderly

    Someday you may be elderly and lets hope people around you have more respect
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,442

    I had such high hopes and excitement for her.

    “ she’s not good enough a leader to be the Democrat’s presidential candidate “

    You are right Nigel, she would be loser if gets the nomination. 😕
    Yes, I was an enthusiast earlier on, too, and would have been delighted had she grown rather than diminished in stature.
  • What about 40 year old or 30 year old female academics?

    Emma Barnett has conducted a series of interviews with figures in this 'debate' on Woman's Hour, most recently Maya Forstater and Stock a few weeks ago. Barnett is pretty good at picking away at inconvenient truths for all the interviewees, particularly since I suspect her sympathies tend to be more in one direction.

    I listened to the Stock interview while driving on the M8 and may have missed some of the nuance because I was duelling with an arsehole in a white van trying to undertake me, but the gist of it seemed to be that gender self identification was a 'fiction' compared to the necessary and immutable truth of sex, and people who had their feelings hurt by this were snowflakes (I paraphrase). Otoh Barnett pointed out to her that she had left her employer by choice and said university had made statements supporting her, Stock said she had 'felt' unsupported and under threat. Apparently some feelings are more important than others.

    I'd say that a lot of the players in this (on both sides) have got high on their own supply of unfamiliar attention, and find it difficult to take that much offered piece of advice to step away from the keyboard.


    "duelling with an arsehole" doesn't even sound like a euphemism!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413

    @ChristopherJM
    NEW: Russia will consider foreign shipments of weapons to Ukraine as “legitimate targets” for the Russian armed forces to attack, state-run RIA Novosti reports, citing Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov.


    https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1502608363456237570

    Screams like a bluff. That actually would give NATO reason to act directly.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413
    Cyclefree said:

    A handy guide to the stages of any project.

    1. Enthusiasm

    2. Disillusionment

    3. Panic

    4. Search for the guilty

    5. Punishment of the innocent

    6. Praise and honour for the non-participants.
    I'd suggest putting 'delusion' between three and four, as the initial panic leads to someone trying, in vain, to impose the view that actually it is all going pretty well.
  • TresTres Posts: 2,810
    tlg86 said:

    When the name “Schumacher” is mentioned in a football game, you know it’s a red card.

    Wasn't then, and isn't now!
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    ydoethur said:

    Sounds more like the abject performance of Susan Acland Hood at the DfE.
    Apparently it's old favourite in the MoD - I first came across it in a book by DK Brown, where he was discussing the entertaining* story of HMS Captain.

    Looks like Putin is at 4-5.....

    *Entertaining, if you weren't crew or family of crew on the maiden voyage.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413

    What a horrible description of the elderly

    Someday you may be elderly and lets hope people around you have more respect
    That language may have been, well, Dura Ace, but given the voting trends of recent decades it is a pretty solid case that retaining an older voter bloc is pretty critical, for the Tories more than anyone. And Farage definitely did drive large parts of Tory policy out of their fear of his leeching a portion of their support.

    Whether this positioning will be as successful for him I doubt, but 'break the Tory grip on the older vote' is pretty sound as a strategy, and expecting the Tories to respond in turn makes sense.
  • StuartDicksonStuartDickson Posts: 12,146

    What a horrible description of the elderly

    Someday you may be elderly and lets hope people around you have more respect
    Zip it grandad.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,751

    @ChristopherJM
    NEW: Russia will consider foreign shipments of weapons to Ukraine as “legitimate targets” for the Russian armed forces to attack, state-run RIA Novosti reports, citing Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov.


    https://twitter.com/ChristopherJM/status/1502608363456237570

    No way Russia has the balls for this, outside of Ukraine’s borders. On the face of it this means going after our C17s over Poland…
  • another_richardanother_richard Posts: 27,491

    You add to the debate and just demonstrate how devilish difficult this is and very long term when the public will demand quick fixes that are just not there

    I followed a Tesla into Asda this morning and to be honest it looks and is very expensive which raises the other issue, climate change is not a problem for the wealthy who no doubt parade their green credentials whenever they can, but it is a real problem for most others and threatens to impoverish so many if we just accept all the green policies without a long transitional period, maybe 20 plus years
    The suffering of others is a feature not a bug for the self-righteous.

    If it ain't hurting it ain't working is the mentality.
  • Wulfrun_PhilWulfrun_Phil Posts: 4,780

    It is a progressive tax and one labour would have supported previously

    OK, I disagree with both of those points, let's just agree to differ.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413
    edited March 2022

    Is rebadging the charge really going to make much difference? It will still be money that Mr, Mrs, Miss and Mx Voter won't have in their pockets to spend.
    Indeed, but to a degree rebadging things does work. Bedroom Tax, Death Tax etc.
  • Zip it grandad.
    Lack of respect for the elderly indicates a very unpleasant side to any individual
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,277
    kle4 said:

    That language may have been, well, Dura Ace, but given the voting trends of recent decades it is a pretty solid case that retaining an older voter bloc is pretty critical, for the Tories more than anyone. And Farage definitely did drive large parts of Tory policy out of their fear of his leeching a portion of their support.

    Whether this positioning will be as successful for him I doubt, but 'break the Tory grip on the older vote' is pretty sound as a strategy, and expecting the Tories to respond in turn makes sense.
    I think it will work because Farage knows to make it work. Environmental issues are very rapidly becoming the Mariupol of the culture war both here and in the US.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    biggles said:

    No way Russia has the balls for this, outside of Ukraine’s borders. On the face of it this means going after our C17s over Poland…
    They could fire some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-37_(missile) from over Ukraine...
  • kle4 said:

    That language may have been, well, Dura Ace, but given the voting trends of recent decades it is a pretty solid case that retaining an older voter bloc is pretty critical, for the Tories more than anyone. And Farage definitely did drive large parts of Tory policy out of their fear of his leeching a portion of their support.

    Whether this positioning will be as successful for him I doubt, but 'break the Tory grip on the older vote' is pretty sound as a strategy, and expecting the Tories to respond in turn makes sense.
    I am not disagreeing with the point just the horrible description of the elderly which is unnecessary
  • Lack of respect for the elderly indicates a very unpleasant side to any individual
    Respect has to be earned.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413
    edited March 2022

    Lack of respect for the elderly indicates a very unpleasant side to any individual
    Hmm. I don't see why 'for the elderly' needs to be in there rather than just lack of respect. Suggests there are categories of people who are more worthy of respect than others merely for a characteristic that does not imbue any particular additional quality. Can we not judge people on their individual merits?
  • Respect has to be earned.
    I have no further comments to make other than I do not see the need to use 'piss reeking'
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    kle4 said:

    I'd suggest putting 'delusion' between three and four, as the initial panic leads to someone trying, in vain, to impose the view that actually it is all going pretty well.
    "Remain Calm. All is well!"

    image
  • Respect has to be earned.
    I find it's nice to show people some respect even when I first meet them. I don't wait until they've "earned" it.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082

    Respect has to be earned.
    You are Jean Vilain, and I claim my kilo of plutonium.

    "Respect is everything. Without respect, we are just people. Common, shitty people."
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,277
    It's like being in an Edith Wharton novel on here today.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901
    edited March 2022
    We Need to Wean Ourselves of Foreign Fuels!
    How?
    By ditching the Green Crap which is aiming to wean us off fossil fuels.
    Thereby making petrol and energy cheaper so that we can continue to use exactly the same amount.
  • OK, I disagree with both of those points, let's just agree to differ.
    In September last year labour did not rule out supporting a NI increase

    https://labourlist.org/2021/09/labour-not-ruling-out-supporting-social-care-national-insurance-rise/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 76,442
    Dura_Ace said:

    I'd like to see the scientific and engineering colossi of the west make a fucking wifi printer that works first.
    There's the rub - China will probably beat us to it.
  • I have no further comments to make other than I do not see the need to use 'piss reeking'
    Don't be such a snowflake, you regularly cheerlead for a party led by a man who, inter alia, calls muslim women 'letterboxes' and called black people 'piccaninnies' and yet you get outraged by piss reeking.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    Nigelb said:

    There's the rub - China will probably beat us to it.
    The game changer here will be getting high power free-electron lasers to work. When you are at the point of being able to create 100 megawatt *continuous* beams - everything dies. At 60% efficient conversion from electricity to light, no less.....
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901

    "Remain Calm. All is well!"

    image
    An Animal House reference per day is a welcome development on PB.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,113
    dixiedean said:

    We Need to Wean Ourselves of Foreign Fuels!
    How?
    By ditching the Green Crap which is aiming to wean us off fossil fuels.
    Thereby making petrol and energy cheaper so that we can continue to use exactly the same amount.

    Notice on the back of van.

    Fuck the tools, no fuel is stored in this vehicle overnight.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    dixiedean said:

    An Animal House reference per day is a welcome development on PB.
    I tried to re-work the horse-in-office scene as a Putin-and-the-generals thing, but I don't have the talent. I think the concept has promise, though.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 65,007
    edited March 2022
    dixiedean said:

    We Need to Wean Ourselves of Foreign Fuels!
    How?
    By ditching the Green Crap which is aiming to wean us off fossil fuels.
    Thereby making petrol and energy cheaper so that we can continue to use exactly the same amount.

    You are missing the point

    We will need oil and gas for years to come and the more we produce ourselves during the transition period the more secure our energy supply is and we do not import the same oil and gas we can produce, from Russia and elsewhere

    It is a simple proposition that should receive widespread popular support post this war
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413

    I find it's nice to show people some respect even when I first meet them. I don't wait until they've "earned" it.
    Presuming it to start out, sure. But on extended acquaintence, earning it is necessary, it doesn't need to change how you act though.

    Sometimes a call for respect is a call for deference. And demanding it is likely to have opposite effect.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,243

    They could fire some https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-37_(missile) from over Ukraine...
    That is surely the quickest way to ensure NATO decide to impose a No Fly Zone.
  • JACK_WJACK_W Posts: 682

    Not even a yellow card.


    Huzzah for the Ukrainians against Putin's reds .. :smiley:
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 98,413
    edited March 2022
    Who to believe? Ukraine has motive to present themselves as defiant, but no motive to annoy potential allies and mediators so why would they mislead?

    From BBC

    Israeli officials have denied media reports Israel asked Ukraine to "surrender" to Russian demands during talks.

    Israel has been involved in efforts to try to end the war in Ukraine. Its Prime Minister Naftali Bennett travelled to Moscow for face-to-face talks with President Putin last Saturday, and also spoke to Ukraine's President Zelensky by phone.

    Media reports had suggested Bennett tried to push Ukraine to heed Russian conditions to end the war.

    But a senior Israeli official has called the report "patently false".

    "Bennett has at no point told Zelensky how to act, nor does he have any intention to," the official told Reuters news agency.

    In fact, "Israel is suggesting that Russia should assess events more adequately" an adviser to the head of the Ukrainian presidential office, Mykhaylo Podolyak, has tweeted.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,513

    You are missing the point

    We will need oil and gas for years to come and the more we produce ourselves during the transition period the more secure our energy supply is and we do not import the same oil and gas we can produce, from Russia and elsewhere

    It is a simple proposition that should receive widespread popular support post this war
    Yep. It’s the same with the nonsense over the Cumbrian coal mine.

    I have no idea if it’s deliberate, but the Green twats have been very useful to Putin.
  • I don't wish to alarm anybody, but we've moved closer to WWIII.

    Russia has warned the United States that Western shipments of weapons to Ukraine could become “legitimate targets” if they continue, raising the risk of a possible escalation of the conflict.

    Sergei Ryabkov, Russia's deputy foreign minister, told state television that Moscow had warned “about the consequences of the thoughtless transfer to Ukraine of weapons like man-portable air defence systems, anti-tank missiles and so on”.

    “We warned the United States that the orchestrated pumping of weapons from a number of countries is not just a dangerous move, it is a move that turns these convoys into legitimate targets,” he said.
  • I have just seen Liverpool's goal and how on earth was the goalkeeper nor red carded.

    It was a shocking and dangerous tackle by him
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,220
    Dura_Ace said:

    It's like being in an Edith Wharton novel on here today.

    Screenplay by Julian Fucking Fellowes.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,905
    tlg86 said:

    When the name “Schumacher” is mentioned in a football game, you know it’s a red card.

    Or someone's parked their car in the wrong place?
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 10,022

    I don't wish to alarm anybody, but we've moved closer to WWIII.

    Russia has warned the United States that Western shipments of weapons to Ukraine could become “legitimate targets” if they continue, raising the risk of a possible escalation of the conflict.

    Sergei Ryabkov, Russia's deputy foreign minister, told state television that Moscow had warned “about the consequences of the thoughtless transfer to Ukraine of weapons like man-portable air defence systems, anti-tank missiles and so on”.

    “We warned the United States that the orchestrated pumping of weapons from a number of countries is not just a dangerous move, it is a move that turns these convoys into legitimate targets,” he said.

    Would the shipment of weapons from inside Russia also therefore be a legitimate target?
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,603

    You are missing the point

    We will need oil and gas for years to come and the more we produce ourselves during the transition period the more secure our energy supply is and we do not import the same oil and gas we can produce, from Russia and elsewhere

    It is a simple proposition that should receive widespread popular support post this war
    Would the UK government have to (be able to?) introduce some sort of 'We get first dibs' on the oil and gas production? Otherwise I'd imagine the companies would be selling it to countries in a more desperate situation who were willing to pay over the odds.

    (I have almost no idea how the international oil/gas industry works. So just wondering really.)
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,220

    Nah rubbish. Those arguing for the biological basis for sex are not threatening the transgender community. Indeed many of them are people who have stood solidly behind minorities in that past and continue to do so. They are in no way being abusive towards the transgender community, they are simply putting forward a rational argument on a specific detail. They are certainly not trying to deprive them of a living or drive them out of their jobs.

    Those attacking Stock for her views are doing all these things up to and including the threat of physical violence. To the extent that the police warned her to stay away from the University campus and advised her to get bodyguards.

    Equating the two as you try to do is dishonest in the extreme.

    Well, thanks for clarifying my take on an interview to which I listened.
    What was your take on the interview? I assume you did listen to it and aren't just barging in with your view, because that sort of behaviour from you would be totally surprising to me.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,751
    biggles said:

    It’s going to be depressing because no one is going to bother with nuance. It’ll all be “how can you issue new licences when you claim to want to hit net zero” vs. “thank God no more green crap” with no space for the moderate “we need to hit net zero, but get there sustainably and without arming Russia”.
    dixiedean said:

    We Need to Wean Ourselves of Foreign Fuels!
    How?
    By ditching the Green Crap which is aiming to wean us off fossil fuels.
    Thereby making petrol and energy cheaper so that we can continue to use exactly the same amount.

    Didn’t take long.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082

    That is surely the quickest way to ensure NATO decide to impose a No Fly Zone.
    I think this is now the likeliest way to an escalation.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,513
    Farooq said:

    You voted Leave.
    That really is the political betting equivalent of “your mum”.
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,243


    Well, thanks for clarifying my take on an interview to which I listened.
    What was your take on the interview? I assume you did listen to it and aren't just barging in with your view, because that sort of behaviour from you would be totally surprising to me.
    I was arguing with the fuckwitted idiocy of your comment, not the interview which I am sure, in your normal fashion, you have fundamentally misrepresented to suit your own extremist views.

  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901

    I tried to re-work the horse-in-office scene as a Putin-and-the-generals thing, but I don't have the talent. I think the concept has promise, though.
    For Putin surely.
    "You fucked up. You trusted us."
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    ohnotnow said:

    Would the UK government have to (be able to?) introduce some sort of 'We get first dibs' on the oil and gas production? Otherwise I'd imagine the companies would be selling it to countries in a more desperate situation who were willing to pay over the odds.

    (I have almost no idea how the international oil/gas industry works. So just wondering really.)
    There is plenty of precedent for banning *export* of oil and gas. In reality, because of issues of location of production, different grades of oil etc, you'd probably have allow some export.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,220

    I was arguing with the fuckwitted idiocy of your comment, not the interview which I am sure, in your normal fashion, you have fundamentally misrepresented to suit your own extremist views.

    Awful lot of words to say no.
  • SelebianSelebian Posts: 9,243
    Nigelb said:

    Yes, I was an enthusiast earlier on, too, and would have been delighted had she grown rather than diminished in stature.
    Me too. I've even got some stranded* assets wrt her winning 2024 president election :disappointed: Fortunately not much as I sold a chunk at her (now, quite astonishing) peak at around 20% chance.

    *well, let's be honest - lost, most likely. Only hope of cashing those out for profit or winning is if she's imcumbent before 2024. And I'd rather take the loss than have her in charge of the current situation (although equally I'd rather take the loss several times than have Trump in charge!)
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,751

    I think this is now the likeliest way to an escalation.
    It gets very dangerous if Putin changes their ROE accordingly, because his junior commanders haven’t demonstrated any initiative. Shoot at NATO inside Poland, and….
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901

    You are missing the point

    We will need oil and gas for years to come and the more we produce ourselves during the transition period the more secure our energy supply is and we do not import the same oil and gas we can produce, from Russia and elsewhere

    It is a simple proposition that should receive widespread popular support post this war
    With respect I'm not at all.
    Any plan which focuses only on increasing supply whilst doing nothing to address demand is simply magical thinking.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,513
    Farooq said:

    Not really. It's meant to remind you that some of us can be in favour of things that also happen to benefit Putin, and we need to keep in mind that "usefulness to Putin" is not the only standard by which to judge things.

    Also: your mum.
    Do you really think Russia wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine without Brexit?

    Remember, Crimea was annexed in 2014.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,751
    tlg86 said:

    That really is the political betting equivalent of “your mum”.
    It’s also now clear that any benefits Putin hoped to accrue from Brexit haven’t happened. And what’s despite the EU pushing us to the point I was more or less thinking “sod it, why should we defend Europe”.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,113

    I don't wish to alarm anybody, but we've moved closer to WWIII.

    Russia has warned the United States that Western shipments of weapons to Ukraine could become “legitimate targets” if they continue, raising the risk of a possible escalation of the conflict.

    Sergei Ryabkov, Russia's deputy foreign minister, told state television that Moscow had warned “about the consequences of the thoughtless transfer to Ukraine of weapons like man-portable air defence systems, anti-tank missiles and so on”.

    “We warned the United States that the orchestrated pumping of weapons from a number of countries is not just a dangerous move, it is a move that turns these convoys into legitimate targets,” he said.

    WW III looks distinctly unnecessary now that England have remembered how to bat.
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 44,617
    dixiedean said:

    With respect I'm not at all.
    Any plan which focuses only on increasing supply whilst doing nothing to address demand is simply magical thinking.
    Those complaining about UKG not supporting Cambo also needs to bear in mind it will take significant time to develop the field into one that is producing. Not sure what sort of timescale that is, though - 5 years? 10?
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,113
    tlg86 said:

    Do you really think Russia wouldn’t have invaded Ukraine without Brexit?

    Remember, Crimea was annexed in 2014.
    And we started training troops in Ukraine (as well as fitting them out with the kit that they have used to such good effect) in 2015 but, whatever.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901
    edited March 2022
    biggles said:

    Didn’t take long.
    You need to turn your irony meter on.
    The mere fact that you are the second poster who couldn't spot it shows how the simple stark fact that we need to use less fossil fuels is simply unthinkable to many.
    It is an addiction as @LostPassword noted.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,076
    At the end of the contest in a packed arena, there’s a tie, broken by the interpretation score with Norway just sneaking it from Canada, with the UK in third.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 4,603
    I'm not sure who made this - but it looks very well done. Superimposing footage of strikes on Kyiv onto Paris :

    https://streamable.com/2j6z7c

  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 43,220
    Carnyx said:

    Those complaining about UKG not supporting Cambo also needs to bear in mind it will take significant time to develop the field into one that is producing. Not sure what sort of timescale that is, though - 5 years? 10?
    I haven't even heard if HMG has got the green light from Nicola and the EssEnnPee so the situation could be moot anyway.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    dixiedean said:

    For Putin surely.
    "You fucked up. You trusted us."
    Putin as... Flounder?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901
    Carnyx said:

    Those complaining about UKG not supporting Cambo also needs to bear in mind it will take significant time to develop the field into one that is producing. Not sure what sort of timescale that is, though - 5 years? 10?
    Same with nuclear. Supply increases are years away.
    Demand reductions don't have to be. But no one seems to want that
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 54,082
    DavidL said:

    WW III looks distinctly unnecessary now that England have remembered how to bat.
    Krikkit Robots
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,751
    dixiedean said:

    You need to turn your irony meter on.
    The mere fact that you are the second poster who couldn't spot it shows how the simple stark fact that we need to use less fossil fuels is simply unthinkable to many.
    It is an addiction as @LostPassword noted.
    Nah, we’ve basically cracked global warming at 2-2.5%. Probably don’t even need to meet the aspirations in Glasgow because big technological shifts are coming.
  • dixiedean said:

    With respect I'm not at all.
    Any plan which focuses only on increasing supply whilst doing nothing to address demand is simply magical thinking.
    I do agree that both are sensible
  • Richard_TyndallRichard_Tyndall Posts: 33,243

    I haven't even heard if HMG has got the green light from Nicola and the EssEnnPee so the situation could be moot anyway.
    Much of the exploration work has already been done on Cambo but still you wouldprobably be looking at 3-5 years before it is producing.

    The bigger problem is that the UK Government is still putting the blocks on near field developments and exploration into existing platforms which could be up and producing in less than a year.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901
    edited March 2022

    Putin as... Flounder?
    Nah man. Putin as John Belushi. Rest of World as Flounder. Ukraine playing the role of Flounder's Uncle's car on a road trip.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,751
    Farooq said:

    It's pretty clear that the sum total of all Putin's policies in the past decade or so have been pretty bad. He clearly did underestimate the West, including the UK and the EU, and probably overestimated the damage done by Brexit. Whisper it, but Putin is basically not that good at what he does.
    There’s an interesting thesis to be written on this. The resilience of free democracies. Might look weak to the likes of Putin for a while, and hopelessly divided, but that all stops when the shooting starts.
  • I haven't even heard if HMG has got the green light from Nicola and the EssEnnPee so the situation could be moot anyway.
    Nicola said Cambo is a UK decision
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,901
    biggles said:

    Nah, we’ve basically cracked global warming at 2-2.5%. Probably don’t even need to meet the aspirations in Glasgow because big technological shifts are coming.
    But I wasn't talking about climate change. I was talking about reducing our reliance on foreign energy.
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