Howdy, Stranger!

It looks like you're new here. Sign in or register to get started.

Does Trump still tower over the GOP? Georgia 2022 – politicalbetting.com

123457

Comments

  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    .
    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    I said a week or two back that Mercedes were probably a good lay at less than evens for the F1 championship.
    Looking as though that might be a decent bet.
    Hamilton absolutely emphatic that Mercedes is not in a good position right now. He doesn't expect Mercedes to fight for wins in its current form and says if people don't believe that, they will be surprised next weekend.

    Asked if he can fight for the title this year, he says: "Obviously it’s a little bit too early to have those kinds of thoughts. At the moment I don’t think we’ll be competing for wins. But there is potential within our car to get us there. We’ve just got to extract it and fix our problems.

    "That’s what we’re working on. Everyone’s doing a fantastic job, working as hard as they can.

    "We have hurdles to overcome. Next week we will have a better showing of our pace. People will be surprised maybe - people think we are talking ourselves down but it’s different this year."…


    First race is only a week away.

    Heard it all before!
    Did you see the Mercedes’ porpoising ?
    As I said at the time, this is a new formula, with quite strictly limited spending; there’s no good reason to think Merc are better than evens favourites.

    In any event, I have laid on Betfair, and hope to trade out at a good profit.
  • Jim_MillerJim_Miller Posts: 2,998
    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    We had our local Ukraine all-party rally (a couple of hundred people) organised by Jeremy Hunt, with the focus on refugees. I took a straw poll of whether people in Godalming would be prepared to accept 10 Ukrainians without visas as part of a national welcome to 20,000 as a start - pretty much everyone raised their hands. Obviously a biased sample of people who care about the issue, but I do think Patel or Johnson or whoever it is has been behind the curve on this. People are uneasy about chaos immigration - hiding in lorries, taking dinghies over the Channel - but they're absolutely up for a Government-sponsored programme to host large numbers. The local Council is completely swamped with offers to put people up indefinitely.

    After the rally, incidentally, an elderly Tory-looking lady (I know one can't generalise, but posh coat and pearls) came up to me and said she'd never been a member of any political party but had now joined Labour "since I have come to the conclusion that the Government is corrupt". 1 person is ultimate anecdata, but I do think the Blue Wall is quietly crumbling.

    Interesting way to look at the numbers. You say "20,000" and it's easy to think gosh, that's a lot of people. But then you work out that it's 1 person coming to Banff and you think gosh, what's all the fuss? Presentation is key.
    Yes, that was my point. I think it would actually take 100 refugees to come to Godalming, population 21,000, (equivalent to 200,000 nationally) before most people noticed at all.
    How do you pronounce Godalming? My brain just says "goddamning" but I guess the people who live there tend to emphasise the L to make it sound less like that. It's a funny place name either way.
    GOD-all-ming with the stress on the first syllable
    Foreigners (I don't mean Ukrainians, just anyone from anywhere else) tend to say godALming. But John is right.
    I say godALming to take the piss, to be honest. A bit like how I say Isle of Widget.
    Presumably you tell people you are going for ghoti and chips on the seafront at Ryde.
    To my shame, I have never actually visited the Isle of Wight. It's something I should probably do at some point.
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    286 to win off 70 overs. 10 minutes ish before lunch.
  • londonpubmanlondonpubman Posts: 3,639

    DavidL said:

    England do seem to be trying to put the foot down but this pitch is surely too dead for a result.

    It must be dead if Crawley was able to score 121.
    It will be difficult for West Indies. They are an inexperienced team not used to winning or grinding out draws.

    Or is that us? 👍
  • I posted a tweet with the same video as this one earlier, but wasn't sure who was speaking in it.

    It's this guy, Vladimir Solovyov "a Russian journalist, television presenter, writer and propagandist. He is best known for his anti-Ukrainian statements."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Solovyov_(journalist)

    Alex Kokcharov
    @AlexKokcharov
    In #Russia, one of the top Kremlin propagandists Solovyov says during his talk show: “With the sanctions like these, why should we stop at the borders of #Ukraine?”

    Translation: Kremlin propaganda is promoting invasion of NATO member states.

    https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1502609663476514822
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051
    edited March 2022
    I see Root has taken my advice. Sensible man.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    tlg86 said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    We had our local Ukraine all-party rally (a couple of hundred people) organised by Jeremy Hunt, with the focus on refugees. I took a straw poll of whether people in Godalming would be prepared to accept 10 Ukrainians without visas as part of a national welcome to 20,000 as a start - pretty much everyone raised their hands. Obviously a biased sample of people who care about the issue, but I do think Patel or Johnson or whoever it is has been behind the curve on this. People are uneasy about chaos immigration - hiding in lorries, taking dinghies over the Channel - but they're absolutely up for a Government-sponsored programme to host large numbers. The local Council is completely swamped with offers to put people up indefinitely.

    After the rally, incidentally, an elderly Tory-looking lady (I know one can't generalise, but posh coat and pearls) came up to me and said she'd never been a member of any political party but had now joined Labour "since I have come to the conclusion that the Government is corrupt". 1 person is ultimate anecdata, but I do think the Blue Wall is quietly crumbling.

    Interesting way to look at the numbers. You say "20,000" and it's easy to think gosh, that's a lot of people. But then you work out that it's 1 person coming to Banff and you think gosh, what's all the fuss? Presentation is key.
    Yes, that was my point. I think it would actually take 100 refugees to come to Godalming, population 21,000, (equivalent to 200,000 nationally) before most people noticed at all.
    How do you pronounce Godalming? My brain just says "goddamning" but I guess the people who live there tend to emphasise the L to make it sound less like that. It's a funny place name either way.
    GOD-all-ming with the stress on the first syllable
    Foreigners (I don't mean Ukrainians, just anyone from anywhere else) tend to say godALming. But John is right.
    I say godALming to take the piss, to be honest. A bit like how I say Isle of Widget.
    Presumably you tell people you are going for ghoti and chips on the seafront at Ryde.
    To my shame, I have never actually visited the Isle of Wight. It's something I should probably do at some point.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4KkasYlhG8
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    I said a week or two back that Mercedes were probably a good lay at less than evens for the F1 championship.
    Looking as though that might be a decent bet.
    Hamilton absolutely emphatic that Mercedes is not in a good position right now. He doesn't expect Mercedes to fight for wins in its current form and says if people don't believe that, they will be surprised next weekend.

    Asked if he can fight for the title this year, he says: "Obviously it’s a little bit too early to have those kinds of thoughts. At the moment I don’t think we’ll be competing for wins. But there is potential within our car to get us there. We’ve just got to extract it and fix our problems.

    "That’s what we’re working on. Everyone’s doing a fantastic job, working as hard as they can.

    "We have hurdles to overcome. Next week we will have a better showing of our pace. People will be surprised maybe - people think we are talking ourselves down but it’s different this year."…


    First race is only a week away.

    Heard it all before!
    Mind games are bloody silly.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    Nigelb said:

    .

    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    I said a week or two back that Mercedes were probably a good lay at less than evens for the F1 championship.
    Looking as though that might be a decent bet.
    Hamilton absolutely emphatic that Mercedes is not in a good position right now. He doesn't expect Mercedes to fight for wins in its current form and says if people don't believe that, they will be surprised next weekend.

    Asked if he can fight for the title this year, he says: "Obviously it’s a little bit too early to have those kinds of thoughts. At the moment I don’t think we’ll be competing for wins. But there is potential within our car to get us there. We’ve just got to extract it and fix our problems.

    "That’s what we’re working on. Everyone’s doing a fantastic job, working as hard as they can.

    "We have hurdles to overcome. Next week we will have a better showing of our pace. People will be surprised maybe - people think we are talking ourselves down but it’s different this year."…


    First race is only a week away.

    Heard it all before!
    Did you see the Mercedes’ porpoising ?
    As I said at the time, this is a new formula, with quite strictly limited spending; there’s no good reason to think Merc are better than evens favourites.

    In any event, I have laid on Betfair, and hope to trade out at a good profit.
    To be honest I have little knowledge about the technicalities. I'm just wary about teams and drivers playing down their chances.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

  • logical_songlogical_song Posts: 9,913

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    No, you're right.
    Already some claim that the Total Cost of Ownership of an electric car is less than an iCE vehicle. Most of this analysis I've seen is based on US costs. I would expect the UK would be more favourable to electric cars except perhaps the purchasing incentives.
    I think 5 to 10 years is pessimistic.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    IanB2 said:

    tlg86 said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    We had our local Ukraine all-party rally (a couple of hundred people) organised by Jeremy Hunt, with the focus on refugees. I took a straw poll of whether people in Godalming would be prepared to accept 10 Ukrainians without visas as part of a national welcome to 20,000 as a start - pretty much everyone raised their hands. Obviously a biased sample of people who care about the issue, but I do think Patel or Johnson or whoever it is has been behind the curve on this. People are uneasy about chaos immigration - hiding in lorries, taking dinghies over the Channel - but they're absolutely up for a Government-sponsored programme to host large numbers. The local Council is completely swamped with offers to put people up indefinitely.

    After the rally, incidentally, an elderly Tory-looking lady (I know one can't generalise, but posh coat and pearls) came up to me and said she'd never been a member of any political party but had now joined Labour "since I have come to the conclusion that the Government is corrupt". 1 person is ultimate anecdata, but I do think the Blue Wall is quietly crumbling.

    Interesting way to look at the numbers. You say "20,000" and it's easy to think gosh, that's a lot of people. But then you work out that it's 1 person coming to Banff and you think gosh, what's all the fuss? Presentation is key.
    Yes, that was my point. I think it would actually take 100 refugees to come to Godalming, population 21,000, (equivalent to 200,000 nationally) before most people noticed at all.
    How do you pronounce Godalming? My brain just says "goddamning" but I guess the people who live there tend to emphasise the L to make it sound less like that. It's a funny place name either way.
    GOD-all-ming with the stress on the first syllable
    Foreigners (I don't mean Ukrainians, just anyone from anywhere else) tend to say godALming. But John is right.
    I say godALming to take the piss, to be honest. A bit like how I say Isle of Widget.
    Presumably you tell people you are going for ghoti and chips on the seafront at Ryde.
    To my shame, I have never actually visited the Isle of Wight. It's something I should probably do at some point.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4KkasYlhG8
    It looks very nice.
  • FairlieredFairliered Posts: 4,931
    stodge said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest New Statesman forecast puts Lab + LD + Greens on 315 seats. Still requiring SNP support for a majority.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2022/01/britain-predicts

    Sinn Fein has 7 MPs so that changes things a little. Perhaps one or two of the other 11 NI MPs might back the Government.

    So you've got 315 Labour, LD and Greens on one side - 257 Conservative plus 55 SNP on the other equals 312.

    The Speaker would support the Government on a tied vote so that leaves 4 Plaid and assuming the same as in 2019, 8 DUP, 2 SDLP and 1 Alliance MP.

    Let's put the DUP eight with the Con/SNP side which equals 320 but if you put Plaid, SDLP and Alliance with the Lab/LD/Greens you'd have 322 (leaving the Speaker and the 7 absent SF MPs)

    That makes the kingmakers Plaid Cymru and if they back the Government, Starmer doesn't need the SNP.
    If Labour take seats off the SNP, although it won’t change the numbers required for an overall majority, it will affect the arithmetic for a minority government.
  • Luckyguy1983Luckyguy1983 Posts: 28,419

    Dura_Ace said:

    It's like being in an Edith Wharton novel on here today.

    Screenplay by Julian Fucking Fellowes.
    Julian strongly denies such accusations and says he's all about the ladies.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051
    Of course this is when, ideally, we’d have selected our two 500+ Test wicket players.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,355

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    No, you're right.
    Already some claim that the Total Cost of Ownership of an electric car is less than an iCE vehicle. Most of this analysis I've seen is based on US costs. I would expect the UK would be more favourable to electric cars except perhaps the purchasing incentives.
    I think 5 to 10 years is pessimistic.
    On Li batteries, we don't seem to be at the end of the cost reduction curve yet.



    And then there are other technologies...
  • ApplicantApplicant Posts: 3,379
    biggles said:

    Of course this is when, ideally, we’d have selected our two 500+ Test wicket players.

    Yes, it's important that they play every series so that when they retire they are replaced with completely inexperienced players.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2022
    And on the the flyball semi-finals, standing room only…


    Record holders Focus win the first…but High Flyers make it even

    It goes to the decider….Focus win!
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051
    Applicant said:

    biggles said:

    Of course this is when, ideally, we’d have selected our two 500+ Test wicket players.

    Yes, it's important that they play every series so that when they retire they are replaced with completely inexperienced players.
    I don’t recall the Aussies “resting” McGrath and Warne much. And you can manage them within a series whilst still having them in the squad, if you really want to.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I don’t think so.
    Batteries are set to get a lot cheaper as the new factories get built. On existing tech electric vehicles ought to be cheaper to build within five years, and likely much cheaper within ten.

    And of course China already has an ultra cheap car, albeit with limited size and range, which is the best selling model in the Chinese market.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56178802
  • CarnyxCarnyx Posts: 42,829
    tlg86 said:

    Carnyx said:

    tlg86 said:

    Farooq said:

    Farooq said:

    We had our local Ukraine all-party rally (a couple of hundred people) organised by Jeremy Hunt, with the focus on refugees. I took a straw poll of whether people in Godalming would be prepared to accept 10 Ukrainians without visas as part of a national welcome to 20,000 as a start - pretty much everyone raised their hands. Obviously a biased sample of people who care about the issue, but I do think Patel or Johnson or whoever it is has been behind the curve on this. People are uneasy about chaos immigration - hiding in lorries, taking dinghies over the Channel - but they're absolutely up for a Government-sponsored programme to host large numbers. The local Council is completely swamped with offers to put people up indefinitely.

    After the rally, incidentally, an elderly Tory-looking lady (I know one can't generalise, but posh coat and pearls) came up to me and said she'd never been a member of any political party but had now joined Labour "since I have come to the conclusion that the Government is corrupt". 1 person is ultimate anecdata, but I do think the Blue Wall is quietly crumbling.

    Interesting way to look at the numbers. You say "20,000" and it's easy to think gosh, that's a lot of people. But then you work out that it's 1 person coming to Banff and you think gosh, what's all the fuss? Presentation is key.
    Yes, that was my point. I think it would actually take 100 refugees to come to Godalming, population 21,000, (equivalent to 200,000 nationally) before most people noticed at all.
    How do you pronounce Godalming? My brain just says "goddamning" but I guess the people who live there tend to emphasise the L to make it sound less like that. It's a funny place name either way.
    GOD-all-ming with the stress on the first syllable
    Foreigners (I don't mean Ukrainians, just anyone from anywhere else) tend to say godALming. But John is right.
    I say godALming to take the piss, to be honest. A bit like how I say Isle of Widget.
    Presumably you tell people you are going for ghoti and chips on the seafront at Ryde.
    To my shame, I have never actually visited the Isle of Wight. It's something I should probably do at some point.
    Oh, it's lovely. Friends of ours used to live near Freshwater on the quieter western half. It helps if you like scenery, Victorian fortifications, and geology, too.
  • ohnotnowohnotnow Posts: 3,783
    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

    Jon Ronson's original CH4 series 'Crazy Rulers of the World' (where the 'Men Who State At Goats' first appeared) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. The "madness" has been there for quite a time. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437000/
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    .

    tlg86 said:

    Nigelb said:

    I said a week or two back that Mercedes were probably a good lay at less than evens for the F1 championship.
    Looking as though that might be a decent bet.
    Hamilton absolutely emphatic that Mercedes is not in a good position right now. He doesn't expect Mercedes to fight for wins in its current form and says if people don't believe that, they will be surprised next weekend.

    Asked if he can fight for the title this year, he says: "Obviously it’s a little bit too early to have those kinds of thoughts. At the moment I don’t think we’ll be competing for wins. But there is potential within our car to get us there. We’ve just got to extract it and fix our problems.

    "That’s what we’re working on. Everyone’s doing a fantastic job, working as hard as they can.

    "We have hurdles to overcome. Next week we will have a better showing of our pace. People will be surprised maybe - people think we are talking ourselves down but it’s different this year."…


    First race is only a week away.

    Heard it all before!
    Did you see the Mercedes’ porpoising ?
    As I said at the time, this is a new formula, with quite strictly limited spending; there’s no good reason to think Merc are better than evens favourites.

    In any event, I have laid on Betfair, and hope to trade out at a good profit.
    To be honest I have little knowledge about the technicalities. I'm just wary about teams and drivers playing down their chances.
    Mercedes are genuinely struggling in terms of car handling, which is nothing to do with ‘sandbagging’, and the first race is a week away.
    The Red Bull looks planted - and is a second quicker.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2022
    Now the Aces High from Kent, 2019 champions, versus the Komondos from Durham, runners up last time..

    Aces looking good in the warm up.

    First round goes to Aces, Komandos drop the ball

    And Aces take the second after another fault by Komandos

    So it’s an Aces V Focus final tomorrow!
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,355
    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    Well, that did seem like an option, but you'd have to build the battery in a way that it was easy to remove and replace. And you'd want as standardised a battery as possible, to maximise the chance of the right one being ready and charged for you to swap in - effectively something like an AA battery for cars.

    Those considerations make it harder than you'd think, especially as the batteries can weigh about half a tonne.

    Back in ~2001 I had a phone that was able to use AAA batteries as an emergency backup for when the normal battery was flat, and I suppose you might be able to have something like that - the battery equivalent of a jerrycan of fuel - where you could have a battery pack that weighed a few kilos and would give you enough power to reach the nearest charging point.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153

    I posted a tweet with the same video as this one earlier, but wasn't sure who was speaking in it.

    It's this guy, Vladimir Solovyov "a Russian journalist, television presenter, writer and propagandist. He is best known for his anti-Ukrainian statements."
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Solovyov_(journalist)

    Alex Kokcharov
    @AlexKokcharov
    In #Russia, one of the top Kremlin propagandists Solovyov says during his talk show: “With the sanctions like these, why should we stop at the borders of #Ukraine?”

    Translation: Kremlin propaganda is promoting invasion of NATO member states.

    https://twitter.com/AlexKokcharov/status/1502609663476514822

    Presumably Solovyov is unaware of the performance of Russia's armed forces, and therefore the likely outcomes of such an action.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,153
    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    A friend of mine tried to do that in Israel with a business called Better Place. Now he was a bit early, but I think the barriers to doing it that way are far from trivial.

    Battery charging is being better and better (and faster and faster). The first Tesla superchargers could add four miles of range per minute. The latest great chargers can add 15. If we get to 30, then - sure - its slower than pumping gas... But it's only something you'd do on road trips, and is 10-15 minutes to full that big a deal?
  • MattWMattW Posts: 23,148
    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    That lease model was used by Nissan/Renault, but they seem to have backed away from it as batteries become more established.

    I think there are third party battery leasing services available, however.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,249

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    Well, that did seem like an option, but you'd have to build the battery in a way that it was easy to remove and replace. And you'd want as standardised a battery as possible, to maximise the chance of the right one being ready and charged for you to swap in - effectively something like an AA battery for cars.

    Those considerations make it harder than you'd think, especially as the batteries can weigh about half a tonne.

    Back in ~2001 I had a phone that was able to use AAA batteries as an emergency backup for when the normal battery was flat, and I suppose you might be able to have something like that - the battery equivalent of a jerrycan of fuel - where you could have a battery pack that weighed a few kilos and would give you enough power to reach the nearest charging point.
    A 100Kwh Tesla battery weighs 625 kg and has a volume of 0.4m3. For a range of 315 miles.... Even a few miles of range is going to weigh a lot.

    In addition, many electric car designs (including Tesla) use the battery partly as structure - replacing the battery is possible, but you have to bolt the car to a special jig first. Big workshop job.

    Various battery swap scheme has been looked at, but the increases in the size of batteries and the increases in charging speed seem to have killed them off, mostly.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    edited March 2022
    rcs1000 said:

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    A friend of mine tried to do that in Israel with a business called Better Place. Now he was a bit early, but I think the barriers to doing it that way are far from trivial.

    Battery charging is being better and better (and faster and faster). The first Tesla superchargers could add four miles of range per minute. The latest great chargers can add 15. If we get to 30, then - sure - its slower than pumping gas... But it's only something you'd do on road trips, and is 10-15 minutes to full that big a deal?
    No - and it will steadily improve, so there’s zero incentive to spend billions on designing and building factories for new vehicles with swappable batteries, which no one other than a couple of efforts in China is currently doing.

    It might be viable for a standardised small form battery and electric scooters/motorbikes, though.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2022
    Morton Magnets also through to the final.

    Now it’s Lightning Strikes, three collies and a crossbreed, versus the Belgian team, Road Runners - reigning European champions and the first non-UK team to reach Crufts Flyball.

    A fault by the Runners, then by the Strikes, the Strikes given the first round.

    And the Runners take the second with a brilliant run - a new course record at 14.95 seconds!

    Now the decider - and the Belgian Roadrunners take it - another course record - 14.84 seconds! (European record is 14.53)
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,277
    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

    Jon Ronson's original CH4 series 'Crazy Rulers of the World' (where the 'Men Who State At Goats' first appeared) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. The "madness" has been there for quite a time. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437000/
    My best guess - right now - is that there is a hardcore of people in the US military/politics who really DO think there is something deeply mysterious going on, and it’s not ordinarily human. Are they mad? Dunno. Possibly

    There’s a wider circle of politicians and the like who are clueless but perplexed, and hedging their bets

    This confusion has been weaponised by others to freak out the Chinese, who must be staring at this and thinking “does the US have amazing technology and this is a hint?”

    At the same time there might be countervailing forces who want this info suppressed. Either because the US DOES have the tech but wants it kept secret, or because they are scared that if the public does discover we are being visited by inexplicable forces, society might break down entirely

    Complicated. But I think that explains what we see. Probably
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Propaganda, or true ?

    https://twitter.com/kw_danielv/status/1502674112975618054
    Intelligence: Kadyrov’s men shot 12 wounded Russian soldiers instead of evacuating them to Belarus
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2022
    Now it’s the contest for the Saturday champions - Focus v Aces

    Aces given the first, after Focus’s dog goes to the wrong side. That dog gets substituted. Focus, from Selby, make it even. Focus take the decider.

    Now the Magnets v the Belgian Roadrunners

    And the Runners crush the first round.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,355

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    Well, that did seem like an option, but you'd have to build the battery in a way that it was easy to remove and replace. And you'd want as standardised a battery as possible, to maximise the chance of the right one being ready and charged for you to swap in - effectively something like an AA battery for cars.

    Those considerations make it harder than you'd think, especially as the batteries can weigh about half a tonne.

    Back in ~2001 I had a phone that was able to use AAA batteries as an emergency backup for when the normal battery was flat, and I suppose you might be able to have something like that - the battery equivalent of a jerrycan of fuel - where you could have a battery pack that weighed a few kilos and would give you enough power to reach the nearest charging point.
    A 100Kwh Tesla battery weighs 625 kg and has a volume of 0.4m3. For a range of 315 miles.... Even a few miles of range is going to weigh a lot.

    In addition, many electric car designs (including Tesla) use the battery partly as structure - replacing the battery is possible, but you have to bolt the car to a special jig first. Big workshop job.

    Various battery swap scheme has been looked at, but the increases in the size of batteries and the increases in charging speed seem to have killed them off, mostly.
    An iPhone 13 Pro Max has a battery with a capacity of 16.75Wh, that's about 6,000 times smaller than the 100kWh Tesla battery. Of course people know that an electric car will lose a lot more electricity than a phone, but I think there'd be surprised at how much, and how much that makes the battery weigh. And I filled up the car earlier, after driving nearly 500 miles, and it took less than 40kg of fuel, which is another way of looking at the difference - about 20 times denser. You could have a very light smartphone, powered for a very long time, if you found a way to do it directly with oil.
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2022
    This Belgian Team looking well placed for tomorrow; their third run beat the course record from yesterday again.

    And they take the second round and win 2:0

    So now Saturday’s big one - Focus v the Runners

    Both side have faults, the fifth dogs get sent in, looks like Focus win the first round

    And the Belgians drop the ball!! Focus win 2:0, the reigning champions win the Saturday competition.

    Suspense building for tomorrow’s final
  • CarlottaVanceCarlottaVance Posts: 60,216
    A view from Ukraine:

    According to information from the Ukrainian Chief Intelligence Directorate, President Vladimir Putin and Minister of Defence Sergei Shoygu are the last Russian statesmen left who support the war.

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/12/7330718/
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,759
    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

    Jon Ronson's original CH4 series 'Crazy Rulers of the World' (where the 'Men Who State At Goats' first appeared) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. The "madness" has been there for quite a time. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437000/
    My best guess - right now - is that there is a hardcore of people in the US military/politics who really DO think there is something deeply mysterious going on, and it’s not ordinarily human. Are they mad? Dunno. Possibly

    There’s a wider circle of politicians and the like who are clueless but perplexed, and hedging their bets

    This confusion has been weaponised by others to freak out the Chinese, who must be staring at this and thinking “does the US have amazing technology and this is a hint?”

    At the same time there might be countervailing forces who want this info suppressed. Either because the US DOES have the tech but wants it kept secret, or because they are scared that if the public does discover we are being visited by inexplicable forces, society might break down entirely

    Complicated. But I think that explains what we see. Probably
    All nations no doubt have some secret technology.

    I'm not sure any of that tech is as cool as Elon Musk's though.

  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830
    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

    Jon Ronson's original CH4 series 'Crazy Rulers of the World' (where the 'Men Who State At Goats' first appeared) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. The "madness" has been there for quite a time. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437000/
    My best guess - right now - is that there is a hardcore of people in the US military/politics who really DO think there is something deeply mysterious going on, and it’s not ordinarily human. Are they mad? Dunno. Possibly

    There’s a wider circle of politicians and the like who are clueless but perplexed, and hedging their bets

    This confusion has been weaponised by others to freak out the Chinese, who must be staring at this and thinking “does the US have amazing technology and this is a hint?”

    At the same time there might be countervailing forces who want this info suppressed. Either because the US DOES have the tech but wants it kept secret, or because they are scared that if the public does discover we are being visited by inexplicable forces, society might break down entirely

    Complicated. But I think that explains what we see. Probably
    If you haven't, you seriously need to read Supernatural by Graham Hancock about LSD/ayahuasca/DMT and UAP links

    There is a very strong connection between psychedelics and therianthropes, incl werewolves, dating back to prehistoric cave art in Europe/S Africa
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,249

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    Well, that did seem like an option, but you'd have to build the battery in a way that it was easy to remove and replace. And you'd want as standardised a battery as possible, to maximise the chance of the right one being ready and charged for you to swap in - effectively something like an AA battery for cars.

    Those considerations make it harder than you'd think, especially as the batteries can weigh about half a tonne.

    Back in ~2001 I had a phone that was able to use AAA batteries as an emergency backup for when the normal battery was flat, and I suppose you might be able to have something like that - the battery equivalent of a jerrycan of fuel - where you could have a battery pack that weighed a few kilos and would give you enough power to reach the nearest charging point.
    A 100Kwh Tesla battery weighs 625 kg and has a volume of 0.4m3. For a range of 315 miles.... Even a few miles of range is going to weigh a lot.

    In addition, many electric car designs (including Tesla) use the battery partly as structure - replacing the battery is possible, but you have to bolt the car to a special jig first. Big workshop job.

    Various battery swap scheme has been looked at, but the increases in the size of batteries and the increases in charging speed seem to have killed them off, mostly.
    An iPhone 13 Pro Max has a battery with a capacity of 16.75Wh, that's about 6,000 times smaller than the 100kWh Tesla battery. Of course people know that an electric car will lose a lot more electricity than a phone, but I think there'd be surprised at how much, and how much that makes the battery weigh. And I filled up the car earlier, after driving nearly 500 miles, and it took less than 40kg of fuel, which is another way of looking at the difference - about 20 times denser. You could have a very light smartphone, powered for a very long time, if you found a way to do it directly with oil.
    Shipstone....
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    Omnium said:

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

    Jon Ronson's original CH4 series 'Crazy Rulers of the World' (where the 'Men Who State At Goats' first appeared) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. The "madness" has been there for quite a time. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437000/
    My best guess - right now - is that there is a hardcore of people in the US military/politics who really DO think there is something deeply mysterious going on, and it’s not ordinarily human. Are they mad? Dunno. Possibly

    There’s a wider circle of politicians and the like who are clueless but perplexed, and hedging their bets

    This confusion has been weaponised by others to freak out the Chinese, who must be staring at this and thinking “does the US have amazing technology and this is a hint?”

    At the same time there might be countervailing forces who want this info suppressed. Either because the US DOES have the tech but wants it kept secret, or because they are scared that if the public does discover we are being visited by inexplicable forces, society might break down entirely

    Complicated. But I think that explains what we see. Probably
    All nations no doubt have some secret technology.

    I'm not sure any of that tech is as cool as Elon Musk's though.

    Russia's turned out to be strapping logs to the front of tanks.
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    Well, that did seem like an option, but you'd have to build the battery in a way that it was easy to remove and replace. And you'd want as standardised a battery as possible, to maximise the chance of the right one being ready and charged for you to swap in - effectively something like an AA battery for cars.

    Those considerations make it harder than you'd think, especially as the batteries can weigh about half a tonne.

    Back in ~2001 I had a phone that was able to use AAA batteries as an emergency backup for when the normal battery was flat, and I suppose you might be able to have something like that - the battery equivalent of a jerrycan of fuel - where you could have a battery pack that weighed a few kilos and would give you enough power to reach the nearest charging point.
    A 100Kwh Tesla battery weighs 625 kg and has a volume of 0.4m3. For a range of 315 miles.... Even a few miles of range is going to weigh a lot.

    In addition, many electric car designs (including Tesla) use the battery partly as structure - replacing the battery is possible, but you have to bolt the car to a special jig first. Big workshop job.

    Various battery swap scheme has been looked at, but the increases in the size of batteries and the increases in charging speed seem to have killed them off, mostly.
    An iPhone 13 Pro Max has a battery with a capacity of 16.75Wh, that's about 6,000 times smaller than the 100kWh Tesla battery. Of course people know that an electric car will lose a lot more electricity than a phone, but I think there'd be surprised at how much, and how much that makes the battery weigh. And I filled up the car earlier, after driving nearly 500 miles, and it took less than 40kg of fuel, which is another way of looking at the difference - about 20 times denser. You could have a very light smartphone, powered for a very long time, if you found a way to do it directly with oil.
    Shipstone....
    It feels like in many other ways the world is heading to the world of Friday
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2022
    Now it’s the young handlers … but the dog needs another walk in the afternoon sun before the excitement of this afternoon’s large agility final.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,249
    rpjs said:

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    Well, that did seem like an option, but you'd have to build the battery in a way that it was easy to remove and replace. And you'd want as standardised a battery as possible, to maximise the chance of the right one being ready and charged for you to swap in - effectively something like an AA battery for cars.

    Those considerations make it harder than you'd think, especially as the batteries can weigh about half a tonne.

    Back in ~2001 I had a phone that was able to use AAA batteries as an emergency backup for when the normal battery was flat, and I suppose you might be able to have something like that - the battery equivalent of a jerrycan of fuel - where you could have a battery pack that weighed a few kilos and would give you enough power to reach the nearest charging point.
    A 100Kwh Tesla battery weighs 625 kg and has a volume of 0.4m3. For a range of 315 miles.... Even a few miles of range is going to weigh a lot.

    In addition, many electric car designs (including Tesla) use the battery partly as structure - replacing the battery is possible, but you have to bolt the car to a special jig first. Big workshop job.

    Various battery swap scheme has been looked at, but the increases in the size of batteries and the increases in charging speed seem to have killed them off, mostly.
    An iPhone 13 Pro Max has a battery with a capacity of 16.75Wh, that's about 6,000 times smaller than the 100kWh Tesla battery. Of course people know that an electric car will lose a lot more electricity than a phone, but I think there'd be surprised at how much, and how much that makes the battery weigh. And I filled up the car earlier, after driving nearly 500 miles, and it took less than 40kg of fuel, which is another way of looking at the difference - about 20 times denser. You could have a very light smartphone, powered for a very long time, if you found a way to do it directly with oil.
    Shipstone....
    It feels like in many other ways the world is heading to the world of Friday
    The Day After Friday

    Including using the internet-in-all-but-name to research and discover the next world disaster.... a disease outbreak....
  • rpjsrpjs Posts: 3,787
    edited March 2022
    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

    Jon Ronson's original CH4 series 'Crazy Rulers of the World' (where the 'Men Who State At Goats' first appeared) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. The "madness" has been there for quite a time. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437000/
    My best guess - right now - is that there is a hardcore of people in the US military/politics who really DO think there is something deeply mysterious going on, and it’s not ordinarily human. Are they mad? Dunno. Possibly

    There’s a wider circle of politicians and the like who are clueless but perplexed, and hedging their bets

    This confusion has been weaponised by others to freak out the Chinese, who must be staring at this and thinking “does the US have amazing technology and this is a hint?”

    At the same time there might be countervailing forces who want this info suppressed. Either because the US DOES have the tech but wants it kept secret, or because they are scared that if the public does discover we are being visited by inexplicable forces, society might break down entirely

    Complicated. But I think that explains what we see. Probably
    Fortean that I am notwithstanding, I’m more inclined to see this as Western disinformatsiya. The Russians and Chinese would never believe the Pentagon is taking UAPs and the supernatural seriously, but they would buy it being a cover story for some seriously high tech classified weapons. And it doesn’t matter whether have such weapons so long as they think we do.

    It could be one reason that no matter how evil he has been so far or the sabre rattling he’s made, Putin has done nothing that might draw NATO into the conflict.
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,249

    A view from Ukraine:

    According to information from the Ukrainian Chief Intelligence Directorate, President Vladimir Putin and Minister of Defence Sergei Shoygu are the last Russian statesmen left who support the war.

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/12/7330718/

    Interesting times (for me at least) in reading Pravda.

    What was the line in the Goode Olde Days of the Cold War...

    "There is no Izvestia in Pravda and no Pravda in Izvestia" ?
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714

    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    2h
    Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a new warning to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO.

    It said membership would have serious military and political consequences, including retaliation.

    Swedish MEP
    @weimers
    says every new threat brings Sweden one step closer to membership.

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502647001510551553
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,625
    @JakeCordell
    ❗️Russia’s stock market will be closed for the whole of next week, Central Bank announces. That’s until at least March 21. Shares last traded on Feb. 25.


    https://twitter.com/JakeCordell/status/1502681986007281664
  • OmniumOmnium Posts: 10,759
    rpjs said:

    Leon said:

    ohnotnow said:

    Leon said:

    rcs1000 said:

    Leon said:

    Some of the stuff in that long, authoritative military.com article - published five days ago - is quite mind-boggling



    "After the Nimitz investigation, the sailor and two Marines were sent to a Utah property known as Skinwalker Ranch, where Bigelow, the owner, had funded his own private research of UFO and paranormal activity over the previous decade....

    The three active-duty service members, whose identities have been concealed by the researchers and the Defense Department, allegedly witnessed a black void on the land that filled them with fear. Lacatski and Kelleher claim the men experienced paranormal activity after leaving the ranch and returning to homes in the Washington, D.C., area, such as orbs, dark figures in bedrooms at night, and strange noises.

    The wife and two teen children of the sailor who investigated the Nimitz incident claimed to have seen a wolf-like creature that walked on two hind legs staring into their Virginia home on two occasions."


    This is a serious US defence-oriented website kind-of referencing WEREWOLVES

    lol

    And it is serious:


    "There are too many things that are unexplained that we just need an explanation for," said Emily Harding, the deputy director and senior fellow in the International Security Program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

    Harding was the deputy staff director on the Senate Intelligence Committee as it worked on the issue. She said Rubio took the lead and was able to approach it with an open mind. The reports from pilots and military personnel raised serious security issues -- and highlighted a real lack of data that made any conclusions about the incidents impossible."

    https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/03/07/how-believers-paranormal-birthed-pentagons-new-hunt-ufos.html


    We still have that dilemma. Either sections of the US military/political elite have gone mad, or *something* is out there

    Have you read The Men Who Stare At Goats?
    Saw the movie and know the thesis

    The difference this time is that the "madness" has reached as far as the Senate, passing laws

    Jon Ronson's original CH4 series 'Crazy Rulers of the World' (where the 'Men Who State At Goats' first appeared) is worth a watch if you haven't seen it. The "madness" has been there for quite a time. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437000/
    My best guess - right now - is that there is a hardcore of people in the US military/politics who really DO think there is something deeply mysterious going on, and it’s not ordinarily human. Are they mad? Dunno. Possibly

    There’s a wider circle of politicians and the like who are clueless but perplexed, and hedging their bets

    This confusion has been weaponised by others to freak out the Chinese, who must be staring at this and thinking “does the US have amazing technology and this is a hint?”

    At the same time there might be countervailing forces who want this info suppressed. Either because the US DOES have the tech but wants it kept secret, or because they are scared that if the public does discover we are being visited by inexplicable forces, society might break down entirely

    Complicated. But I think that explains what we see. Probably
    Fortean that I am notwithstanding, I’m more inclined to see this as Western disinformatsiya. The Russians and Chinese would never believe the Pentagon is taking UAPs and the supernatural seriously, but they would buy it being a cover story for some seriously high tech classified weapons. And it doesn’t matter whether have such weapons so long as they think we do.

    It could be one reason that no matter how evil he has been so far or the sabre rattling he’s made, Putin has done nothing that might draw NATO into the conflict.
    Giving him a bit of a clump on general principles, whilst the thing to do, does seem unwise.
  • England red card after 82 seconds.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792

    England red card after 82 seconds.

    Looked pretty blameless, that.
    Suppose I may as well switch off and now the lawn instead.
  • HYUFDHYUFD Posts: 122,918
    edited March 2022
    biggles said:

    stodge said:

    Andy_JS said:

    Latest New Statesman forecast puts Lab + LD + Greens on 315 seats. Still requiring SNP support for a majority.

    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2022/01/britain-predicts

    Sinn Fein has 7 MPs so that changes things a little. Perhaps one or two of the other 11 NI MPs might back the Government.

    So you've got 315 Labour, LD and Greens on one side - 257 Conservative plus 55 SNP on the other equals 312.

    The Speaker would support the Government on a tied vote so that leaves 4 Plaid and assuming the same as in 2019, 8 DUP, 2 SDLP and 1 Alliance MP.

    Let's put the DUP eight with the Con/SNP side which equals 320 but if you put Plaid, SDLP and Alliance with the Lab/LD/Greens you'd have 322 (leaving the Speaker and the 7 absent SF MPs)

    That makes the kingmakers Plaid Cymru and if they back the Government, Starmer doesn't need the SNP.
    Still sounds like hell for Starmer to me. LibDem coalition, or potent minority Government with LibDem confidence and supply makes sense; but I think he’d do anything to avoid the above “rainbow” scenario. He’d have to take power but he’d hate it, and run a big risk of a death Tory Gvt not long down the line.

    Edit - And Labour on the way to power will of course rediscover all the reasons not to do PR.
    If Burnham has returned as an MP he will also be heir apparent, waiting in the wings if Starmer slips up. Much like Boris was for Cameron
  • MalmesburyMalmesbury Posts: 50,249


    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    2h
    Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a new warning to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO.

    It said membership would have serious military and political consequences, including retaliation.

    Swedish MEP
    @weimers
    says every new threat brings Sweden one step closer to membership.

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502647001510551553

    HMS Prince of Wales is heading up to the Arctic as part of Norwegian led exercises.

    I'm sure it's all a coincidence.
  • England red card after 82 seconds.

    Yay!

    I can focus on the cricket and Man Utd v Spurs instead now.
  • Cookie said:

    England red card after 82 seconds.

    Looked pretty blameless, that.
    Suppose I may as well switch off and now the lawn instead.
    I think the French ref thought Ewels looked the type to shut the door on a refugee.
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405
    Cookie said:

    England red card after 82 seconds.

    Looked pretty blameless, that.
    Suppose I may as well switch off and now the lawn instead.
    I get that they are trying to get tackles lower etc, but a red card for that? Yellow would punish, but not kill the game. This could 40+ for Ireland or more now. Fucking shit.
  • TheuniondivvieTheuniondivvie Posts: 41,955
    How does it go again?

    Dirty England..
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    rcs1000 said:

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    A friend of mine tried to do that in Israel with a business called Better Place. Now he was a bit early, but I think the barriers to doing it that way are far from trivial.
    He would have been better off opening up a chip shop called Better Plaice.....
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792


    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    2h
    Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a new warning to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO.

    It said membership would have serious military and political consequences, including retaliation.

    Swedish MEP
    @weimers
    says every new threat brings Sweden one step closer to membership.

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502647001510551553

    Seems unlikely - given Russia has already run out of its own soldiers and is now relying on the might of Belarus and Syria - that Russia has the resources to retaliate against Sweden and Finland right now.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    WSJ chief foreign correspondent report from Kharkiv.
    Grim, and pace @TOPPING , gives some convincing detail on how the war went at the start.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-the-rubble-of-ukraines-second-largest-city-survivors-make-their-stand-nobody-wants-the-russians-11647013623

    A link here which avoids the paywall.
    https://twitter.com/jessicasunja/status/1502342507241299975
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1502615172841709579

    @jk_rowling
    Now
    @Keir_Starmer
    publicly misrepresents equalities law, in yet another indication that the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights. But I repeat: women are organising across party lines, and their resolve and their anger are growing.


    I think this is going to be a problem for Starmer at the election.
  • pm215pm215 Posts: 1,130
    rpjs said:


    It could be one reason that no matter how evil he has been so far or the sabre rattling he’s made, Putin has done nothing that might draw NATO into the conflict.

    You don't need to hypothesize a Russian belief in nonexistent US secret superweapons to explain that -- the nuclear weapons that the Russians can be 100% certain the US has are entirely adequate reason...
  • rottenboroughrottenborough Posts: 62,714
    War is hell...



    NEXTA
    @nexta_tv
    One of the #Russian bloggers cries that in two days her Instagram will stop working

    She does not care at all about the thousands of dead people, including her compatriots. Obviously, her biggest worry right now is that she won't be able to post pictures of food from restaurants.

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1502433817465864198
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561
    Cookie said:


    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    2h
    Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a new warning to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO.

    It said membership would have serious military and political consequences, including retaliation.

    Swedish MEP
    @weimers
    says every new threat brings Sweden one step closer to membership.

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502647001510551553

    Seems unlikely - given Russia has already run out of its own soldiers and is now relying on the might of Belarus and Syria - that Russia has the resources to retaliate against Sweden and Finland right now.
    Careful, the Russians might learn a trick or two from the French, and fart in their general direction....
  • NorthofStokeNorthofStoke Posts: 1,758
    tlg86 said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1502615172841709579

    @jk_rowling
    Now
    @Keir_Starmer
    publicly misrepresents equalities law, in yet another indication that the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights. But I repeat: women are organising across party lines, and their resolve and their anger are growing.


    I think this is going to be a problem for Starmer at the election.

    I think it will be. He shouldn't mouth slogans.
  • FrankBoothFrankBooth Posts: 9,826

    War is hell...



    NEXTA
    @nexta_tv
    One of the #Russian bloggers cries that in two days her Instagram will stop working

    She does not care at all about the thousands of dead people, including her compatriots. Obviously, her biggest worry right now is that she won't be able to post pictures of food from restaurants.

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1502433817465864198

    Well she may not be fully aware of the reality of the special military operation.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited March 2022

    rcs1000 said:

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    A friend of mine tried to do that in Israel with a business called Better Place. Now he was a bit early, but I think the barriers to doing it that way are far from trivial.
    He would have been better off opening up a chip shop called Better Plaice.....
    There’s an upmarket chippy in New York called “Assalt & Battery” which I thought was a rather good name…
  • StillWatersStillWaters Posts: 8,243

    Sweden planning to cater for over 210,000 Ukrainian refugees by the summer.

    That's in the same ball park as Ireland's planning, relative to their respective populations. On an even basis across the EU it equates to 9 million Ukrainian refugees. If the UK were to take a similar number of refugees we would be looking at 1.3 million.

    Very clear that HMG is desperate to avoid taking even one-tenth of that number.
    Yes, you need to analyse the contribution of the various states in proportion to their populations. Sweden is only 10 million people.

    We have been incredibly generous to refugees from many, many conflicts. Chile, Somalia, Iran, Iraq, former Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Syria spring to mind, but hundreds of others too.

    Why is Sweden so generous?
    Lots of empty space
    Don’t be daft. We house refugees in existing cities and towns. They are hardly a significant additional land-use category.
    Population density - Malmo* 4,049/km2

    Population density - London 5,701/km2

    * I recall reading this was where a lot of immigrants end up, but in any event I suspect most places in Sweden have lower density
  • TOPPINGTOPPING Posts: 42,957
    Nigelb said:

    WSJ chief foreign correspondent report from Kharkiv.
    Grim, and pace @TOPPING , gives some convincing detail on how the war went at the start.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/in-the-rubble-of-ukraines-second-largest-city-survivors-make-their-stand-nobody-wants-the-russians-11647013623

    A link here which avoids the paywall.
    https://twitter.com/jessicasunja/status/1502342507241299975

    Yeah pretty horrible.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    rcs1000 said:

    biggles said:

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I agree. One of the stated advantages of electric battery cars is that they are mechanically simpler than internal combustion cars. Batteries would be expected to come down in price, as volume of production increases and the technology continues to develop - but increasing demand for battery cars (and for batteries as electricity storage), may hold prices up for a while.
    I guess the ideal model is that you never actually own your battery, but instead it gets swapped out at the filling station? Gets you around charging times within or around the vehicle, other than over night at home.
    A friend of mine tried to do that in Israel with a business called Better Place. Now he was a bit early, but I think the barriers to doing it that way are far from trivial.
    He would have been better off opening up a chip shop called Better Plaice.....
    Or writing a guide to marine life called Know Your Plaice.
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 52,561

    @JakeCordell
    ❗️Russia’s stock market will be closed for the whole of next week, Central Bank announces. That’s until at least March 21. Shares last traded on Feb. 25.


    https://twitter.com/JakeCordell/status/1502681986007281664

    Worthless companies valued in worthless roubles. Not much point in opening ever again...

    Your average Russian's pension pot might buy a bottle of vodka to drown your sorrows.
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,792
    tlg86 said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1502615172841709579

    @jk_rowling
    Now
    @Keir_Starmer
    publicly misrepresents equalities law, in yet another indication that the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights. But I repeat: women are organising across party lines, and their resolve and their anger are growing.


    I think this is going to be a problem for Starmer at the election.

    Women may well be organising across party lines. Cyclefree, amongst others, has been eloquent in setting out the implications for women in believing what the Labour Party appear to believe about what a woman is.
    And I'd agree that the stance that a man can become a woman simply by declaring that he one IS damaging to women.
    But that seems an almost incidental one to the more significant objection that such a stance is absolutely insane.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,164

    tlg86 said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1502615172841709579

    @jk_rowling
    Now
    @Keir_Starmer
    publicly misrepresents equalities law, in yet another indication that the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights. But I repeat: women are organising across party lines, and their resolve and their anger are growing.


    I think this is going to be a problem for Starmer at the election.

    I think it will be. He shouldn't mouth slogans.
    Never foirgert how comfortable he was in the Corbyn shadow cabinet, his real views on 'rejoin' - every now and then the mask slips. He is no blairite moderniser.
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175

    War is hell...



    NEXTA
    @nexta_tv
    One of the #Russian bloggers cries that in two days her Instagram will stop working

    She does not care at all about the thousands of dead people, including her compatriots. Obviously, her biggest worry right now is that she won't be able to post pictures of food from restaurants.

    https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1502433817465864198

    To be fair, if we were banned from this site, we wouldn’t like it much.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083
    Nigelb said:

    I said a week or two back that Mercedes were probably a good lay at less than evens for the F1 championship.
    Looking as though that might be a decent bet.
    Hamilton absolutely emphatic that Mercedes is not in a good position right now. He doesn't expect Mercedes to fight for wins in its current form and says if people don't believe that, they will be surprised next weekend.

    Asked if he can fight for the title this year, he says: "Obviously it’s a little bit too early to have those kinds of thoughts. At the moment I don’t think we’ll be competing for wins. But there is potential within our car to get us there. We’ve just got to extract it and fix our problems.

    "That’s what we’re working on. Everyone’s doing a fantastic job, working as hard as they can.

    "We have hurdles to overcome. Next week we will have a better showing of our pace. People will be surprised maybe - people think we are talking ourselves down but it’s different this year."…


    First race is only a week away.

    F1 drivers and teams lie or mislead. A lot. Including him. So he's right some wont believe it.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051


    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    2h
    Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a new warning to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO.

    It said membership would have serious military and political consequences, including retaliation.

    Swedish MEP
    @weimers
    says every new threat brings Sweden one step closer to membership.

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502647001510551553

    If they ask, then immediate accession. And for any other European country not already at war with Russia.
  • bigglesbiggles Posts: 6,051
    edited March 2022

    @JakeCordell
    ❗️Russia’s stock market will be closed for the whole of next week, Central Bank announces. That’s until at least March 21. Shares last traded on Feb. 25.


    https://twitter.com/JakeCordell/status/1502681986007281664

    Worthless companies valued in worthless roubles. Not much point in opening ever again...

    Your average Russian's pension pot might buy a bottle of vodka to drown your sorrows.
    Shhh. Some of us have a secret plan to waltz in after the war, but it all up and be in the next generation of Oligarchs.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    Here's a question for those who know more about automobile design and manufacturing than I do: It seems to me that, eventually, the transition to all-electric cars should make possible cars that are less expensive and more reliable.

    Consider, for example, a Toyota Prius (or any other hybrid). It has two systems of propulsion, electric motors and an internal combustion engine. If you are increase the size of the first, and eliminate the second, you reduce the number of parts, which should cut costs and increase reliability. And, I would think, make it possible to automate even more of the production lines.

    Making an all-electric car cheaper would, as I understand it, require a reduction in battery prices, but I don't see any reason that can't happen, within the next 5 or 10 years.

    Note please, that I said, "make possible". There will always be some people attracted to certain automobiles because they are expensive, but I think there are still many people who are looking for reliable bargain transportation, people who would be attracted to a simple, all-electric car, because it was less expensive.

    So, am I missing anything in this very simple analysis?

    I recall watching a wendover video on car batteries, as apparently the cost of vehicles is already at or nearly at the point of what would be what people are willing to pay, and the distance they can cover is too. So IIRC it wasnt that they needed batteries to get that much cheaper for it to really take off, it was the ubiquity of charging that remained an issue, and how quickly theyd charge.

    But vague recollections can be wrong. No expert here.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    Russell echoes Hamilton’s comments.
    Note, with such limited testing, you simply do not do something like this to hide a car’s performance. They just haven’t got it working yet.

    http://www.gptoday.com/full_story/view/821438/Russell_Mercedes_behind_Red_Bull_and_Ferrari_8216in_every_condition/
    … “It’s definitely bouncing around from within, it’s not the comfiest in all honesty, but I don’t really care about comfort if the performance is there,” Russell said about the W13’s porpoising during testing.

    “But at the moment the performance isn’t there, we do seem a step behind our rivals, and we do have a lot of work to do between now and next week to understand [it], because in every condition the Red Bull and Ferrari seem a step ahead of us.”

    Russell suggested that neither Red Bull or Ferrari were “exceptional” but that Mercedes is “probably not as competitive as we’d like.

    “It’s pretty clear where we’re limited, you’ve only got to watch the videos and you see us bouncing a lot, it’s not putting the car in the right window,” he said.

    “The team are working incredibly hard to try and find solutions for this, we’ve yet to find one, but that doesn’t mean we won’t be able to find one ahead of next week or later in the season..


    My Mercedes lay is a trading bet, and I’m very happy with it for now.

  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,812
    Cookie said:

    tlg86 said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1502615172841709579

    @jk_rowling
    Now
    @Keir_Starmer
    publicly misrepresents equalities law, in yet another indication that the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights. But I repeat: women are organising across party lines, and their resolve and their anger are growing.


    I think this is going to be a problem for Starmer at the election.

    Women may well be organising across party lines. Cyclefree, amongst others, has been eloquent in setting out the implications for women in believing what the Labour Party appear to believe about what a woman is.
    And I'd agree that the stance that a man can become a woman simply by declaring that he one IS damaging to women.
    But that seems an almost incidental one to the more significant objection that such a stance is absolutely insane.
    The Inner House's decision in the appeal by For Woman Scotland Ltd is really eloquent on this issue: https://scotcourts.gov.uk/docs/default-source/cos-general-docs/pdf-docs-for-opinions/2022csih4.pdf?sfvrsn=7920df79_1

    It accepts that the absurd conclusion of the Scottish legislation could be that legislation requiring public bodies to have boards with gender equality could be met if half of the members were men and the other half were men self identifying as women and that this would be a breach of the Equality Act.

    This is a difficult issue but the right to respect and dignity which those who are transgender undoubtedly have really cannot be at the cost of the rights that women have won after an immense struggle. Whilst I respect and understand the empathy that SKS is showing to those who are transgender I think he is wrong about this.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited March 2022
    Hmm.

    I’ve got a winning accumulator bet on the footie which is now down to the last leg.

    ManU.

    My question boils down to - Are ManU value at 2.4? At those odds, are they a back or a lay?

    I’m tempted to cashout, even though I’m loathe to pay the overround.

    Dilemma.

    I wish @isam was still around….
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,070
    edited March 2022
    kle4 said:

    Nigelb said:

    I said a week or two back that Mercedes were probably a good lay at less than evens for the F1 championship.
    Looking as though that might be a decent bet.
    Hamilton absolutely emphatic that Mercedes is not in a good position right now. He doesn't expect Mercedes to fight for wins in its current form and says if people don't believe that, they will be surprised next weekend.

    Asked if he can fight for the title this year, he says: "Obviously it’s a little bit too early to have those kinds of thoughts. At the moment I don’t think we’ll be competing for wins. But there is potential within our car to get us there. We’ve just got to extract it and fix our problems.

    "That’s what we’re working on. Everyone’s doing a fantastic job, working as hard as they can.

    "We have hurdles to overcome. Next week we will have a better showing of our pace. People will be surprised maybe - people think we are talking ourselves down but it’s different this year."…


    First race is only a week away.

    F1 drivers and teams lie or mislead. A lot. Including him. So he's right some wont believe it.
    You don’t spend three days of testing - a week before the first GP - faking dreadful car handling.
    This season is different - new rules; much more level playing field.

    Had you done the same you could cash out for a 10%profit now.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    Nigelb said:

    Propaganda, or true ?

    https://twitter.com/kw_danielv/status/1502674112975618054
    Intelligence: Kadyrov’s men shot 12 wounded Russian soldiers instead of evacuating them to Belarus

    I'm not saying its impossible, the Russian Moral compass is so defective right now anything is believable.

    I think this is highly unlikely, shooting injured people would be devastating to the moral and any commander know that. It would seriously open you up to legal ramifications after the war, maybe not form the Hage, but frim your own side if they where looking for ScapeGoats, to blame for not being very good.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083

    tlg86 said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1502615172841709579

    @jk_rowling
    Now
    @Keir_Starmer
    publicly misrepresents equalities law, in yet another indication that the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights. But I repeat: women are organising across party lines, and their resolve and their anger are growing.


    I think this is going to be a problem for Starmer at the election.

    I think it will be. He shouldn't mouth slogans.
    If he gets confronted by it it could, but he might get lucky. My sense is most people are super fussed and wish to just express support around trans issues, and the problems occur when people with actually very radical and uncompromising opinions on it develop and push slogans which politicians will try to push thinking it all simple and benign, when there are actually some more complex aspects, and it piss another minority opinion off. And the public will be inclined to the side which seems to talk common sense at that point, baffled by the more radical ideas.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,083


    Visegrád 24
    @visegrad24
    ·
    2h
    Russia’s Foreign Ministry issued a new warning to Sweden and Finland about joining NATO.

    It said membership would have serious military and political consequences, including retaliation.

    Swedish MEP
    @weimers
    says every new threat brings Sweden one step closer to membership.

    https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1502647001510551553

    Seriously, what's the downside? It was presumably pretty close without being a member but it's now demonstrated that full membership really does add some more guarantees.
  • MrEdMrEd Posts: 5,578

    A view from Ukraine:

    According to information from the Ukrainian Chief Intelligence Directorate, President Vladimir Putin and Minister of Defence Sergei Shoygu are the last Russian statesmen left who support the war.

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/12/7330718/

    Interesting times (for me at least) in reading Pravda.

    What was the line in the Goode Olde Days of the Cold War...

    "There is no Izvestia in Pravda and no Pravda in Izvestia" ?
    If that is correct, then it becomes even more bollocks that we are on the cusp of nuclear war. The article states most of the General Staff are also against the war. If anything, if Putin did order nuclear (and maybe even chemical) weapons to be used, there is a fair chance that is a catalyst for a coup.
  • This ref might as well be wearing an Ireland jersey.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    I might regret this, but I’m gonna let my bet ride.

    Comeon Manure…!
  • williamglennwilliamglenn Posts: 51,625
    MrEd said:

    A view from Ukraine:

    According to information from the Ukrainian Chief Intelligence Directorate, President Vladimir Putin and Minister of Defence Sergei Shoygu are the last Russian statesmen left who support the war.

    https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/03/12/7330718/

    Interesting times (for me at least) in reading Pravda.

    What was the line in the Goode Olde Days of the Cold War...

    "There is no Izvestia in Pravda and no Pravda in Izvestia" ?
    If that is correct, then it becomes even more bollocks that we are on the cusp of nuclear war. The article states most of the General Staff are also against the war. If anything, if Putin did order nuclear (and maybe even chemical) weapons to be used, there is a fair chance that is a catalyst for a coup.
    It depends. It's possible for someone in the government to be agaisnt the war, but still believe the best way out for Russia is to escalate.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    One report form the War, that's interesting to me. Ukraine are calming that yesterday (Friday) that over 500 Russians surrendered to them.

    500 is a lot, if you add Killed wounded and missing on to that, Russia could be losing 1,000 a day.

    Some how clamed of Prisoner seem more credible to me that clams of how many they have killed. how does any one side know how many of the other they have killed? they don't, really, they can count some body's, and say at least X, but there will be a lot more than that, some die in hospital, some get blown up, lots of other issues, but with prisoners you have a person in front of you.

    Are the Ukrainians just mackling this up, possibly, but then presumably they are registering theses with the Red cross, so a risk in just making up a number,

    it might be just a one off, but also after 2 weeks, and bad weather, seems to be when moral might crack, so maybe its the start of a trend, maybe. Just like trying to determine if a particular pole is an outlier or the start of a trend!!!

    Thoughts?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 49,859
    edited March 2022
    And the Portuguese dog scores a clear round at 37.9 seconds and takes the lead.

    But the Norwegian is faster….at 36.5

    Here’s the English collie…looking very good…the stadium erupts after a clear round at 33.4

    Now Switzerland..fast but yappy..33.9 but five faults at the long jump

    Last dog…the Scottish defending champion..fast…and Crazy from Scotland takes it again with 32.8 and clear
  • turbotubbsturbotubbs Posts: 17,405

    This ref might as well be wearing an Ireland jersey.

    Apart from the ten Penalties he’s pinged Ireland for, including three at the scrum that could have gone either way...
  • tlg86tlg86 Posts: 26,175
    ping said:

    I might regret this, but I’m gonna let my bet ride.

    Comeon Manure…!

    I think you'll regret it. Man Utd are terrible.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,630
    edited March 2022

    This ref might as well be wearing an Ireland jersey.

    Apart from the ten Penalties he’s pinged Ireland for, including three at the scrum that could have gone either way...
    I'm narked at that penalty against Itoje.

    Ludicrous decision by a referee from France
  • CyclefreeCyclefree Posts: 25,310
    kle4 said:

    tlg86 said:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/1502615172841709579

    @jk_rowling
    Now
    @Keir_Starmer
    publicly misrepresents equalities law, in yet another indication that the Labour Party can no longer be counted on to defend women’s rights. But I repeat: women are organising across party lines, and their resolve and their anger are growing.


    I think this is going to be a problem for Starmer at the election.

    I think it will be. He shouldn't mouth slogans.
    If he gets confronted by it it could, but he might get lucky. My sense is most people are super fussed and wish to just express support around trans issues, and the problems occur when people with actually very radical and uncompromising opinions on it develop and push slogans which politicians will try to push thinking it all simple and benign, when there are actually some more complex aspects, and it piss another minority opinion off. And the public will be inclined to the side which seems to talk common sense at that point, baffled by the more radical ideas.
    I do not want Johnson to be re-elected. I very much want this.

    I am drawn to voting Labour next time.

    But self-ID is my red line. I will not vote Labour or the Lib Dems if they adopt this as a policy. More medical care for transgender people: yes. Very much yes. Self-ID: no.

    Womens' rights are critical for me. I have seen many changes in those rights and how women are treated in my lifetime, most of them for the better. They have been hard fought for. My daughter has a much easier life and working expectations and ambitions than I had when I started out. The sexism that was rife and routine and that I had to endure would shock people now.

    So I am never going to vote for parties who do not take this seriously and who propose policies whose consequences they do not understand which will seriously harm and diminish and, in some cases, extinguish womens' rights. Men do not get to say or determine what a woman is. We draw the boundaries and it is up to men to respect our boundaries. And if we want spaces where only females with female bodies are allowed in, not males with male bodies, whatever they choose to call themselves, that's our choice. No means no, after all.
This discussion has been closed.