Will Keir Starmer face leadership challenge before the next general election? – politicalbetting.com
Will Keir Starmer face leadership challenge before the next general election? – politicalbetting.com
Smarkets have this market up on whether Sir Keir Starmer will face a leadership challenge before the next general election and I’m not sure what to make of this market.
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FPT: Bugger
You also lose all the free housing for homeless people currently provided by force by LLs to local Councils, by the mechanism of Councils forcing people to stay in the house for which they aren't paying rent for 6 to 12 months, which saves Council resources but inflates the debts of those individuals and leaves them with unpaid CCJs.
Now I must go out.
Any challenge from the Right/Centre is pointless before SKS is seen to have failed at a GE.
Would be interested to see where YouGov are picking up these Green voters as coming from.
I suspect most are young, and have a lower propensity to turn out at all. Very few will be Tories.
@LostPassword had summat to say about this ISTR.
I'm looking towards Chesterfield expecting to see a vast explosion as @bigjohnowls spontaneously combusts.
The odds of them changing that rule for Starmer must be about 1 in 100. Apart from anything else, where would a challenger come from?
*John Smith being removed by powers higher than Labour.
Tom Watson again.
He will stay in place, lose with dignity in 2023 and then LAB really need to find someone - who? - can credibly lead them to GE win 2028.
Hint: it's not Angela 😀
It is as if Covid died out, or never happened at all.
The Tories seem intent on losing on all manner of fronts, I believe in a year Starmer and Labour will be ahead - and they will register a lead before the end of this year too.
IIRC that Labour lead poll was impacted by a higher than normal Tory vote moving over to DK.
The people who run Prevent - which the Somalian assassin was subscribed to - are taught this:
‘This training should revolve around contemporary issues such as the rise of right wing extremism in schools, universities and public spaces, Brexit and hate crime’
That’s right. Just quietly slot Brexit - a democratic vote by 17.4m people - alongside ‘right wing extremism’ and ‘hate crime’
https://twitter.com/damcou/status/1449714098183225344?s=21
If Keir Starmer stands down as leader of the Labour Party before the next election and without any candidate being nominated by at least 20% of Labour MPs to challenge him for the leadership, this market will be void.
I'll update the thread header pic with one that also contains the rules.
Moreover, he was at most removed slightly earlier than he wanted to go.
There were plenty on here, but they mostly drifted back soon enough.
Labour closing in on the economy
They'd also have to accept that they'll probably be a smaller party than the Tories, but they'd have much more chance of keeping them out of power - and providing the PM in a coalition
If Starmer were leading a Labour party that didn't need the Corbynites, I think this wouldn't even be a discussion.
This can mean
1) Building lots of homes where the people want them
2) moving big chunks of the population to where more homes are
By itself, 2) can't deal with the problem.
What will not fix the housing problem is shuffling housing between the rental and owned sectors.
Fundamentally, there is a housing shortage - of all kinds.
He should, because he's crap.
He won't, because the Labour Party don't get rid of crap leaders.
Would Blair have been as successful but for Kinnock's groundwork and the realisation that under Smith the party was drifting? No.
That doesn't mean Starmer will win the next election (Indeed it's pretty well certain he won't) but he needs to keep Labour in the game for the next one.
So the cosmopolitan thing to do is to hate the French. Apparently.
The real issue is integration - which then runs slap bank into the racism of The Exotic. Other cultures are not to be criticised because they are Other and hence must be Protected.
So various shitheads get to justify their shitty behaviour by "it's my culture".
To be honest it's hard to think of a less successful group coming to Western society. Rock bottom academic performance, unemployment rates often north of 40%, very low average earnings and a much higher prevalence of religious extremism.
People on here are forever saying how they are not against immigration just that it's unfair it's restricted to the EU.
So rejoice at the Somalis here. Right?
However there's a flaw in the logic though that just because private rental is denser that automatically you need more houses if families who rents a home buy a home instead.
A big reason why the Owner Occupied sector has less dense housing than private rental is the generation divide. People who bought a 2 or 3 or more bedrooms house decades ago still living there, despite being now retired and no kids so no 'requirement' for bedrooms 2 and 3. Most retired couples only 'need' 1 bedroom but don't downsize.
Families renting a 2 or 3 plus bedroom house now because they have children who then go on to buy a house with the same number of bedrooms don't affect the quantity of houses required whatsoever.
One can feel very sorry for the Somalian people: a poor war torn country traumatised by decades of violence. At the same time one can feel that importing more of them is adding calamity to catastrophe
If your culture involves treating women like shit, or treating gays like shit, or not working, or . . . then we should be able to stand up proudly and say that we don't respect that culture.
I don't. I want to treat people as individuals. If a highly-skilled Somalian meets our entry requirements then they shouldn't be excluded just because the rest of the nation is dreadful.
Labour has written to health secretary Sajid Javid to express concern over the current state of England’s Covid vaccination programme and call upon the government “to go further” in accelerating the rollout of doses among children, young people and pregnant women.
In a letter shared with The Independent, Jon Ashworth, the shadow health secretary, said “this is no time for ministers to be complacent” over what has been achieved and warned “it is clear that the job of protecting the public is not yet done”, with infection rates once again returning to the peak seen at the height of the second wave.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-vaccine-flu-latest-uk-b1939302.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Main&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1634477050
The question raised by iSage is what is being done now to contain the spread of COVID - not what was (not) done 18 months ago.
The point is that part of the UK that s largely following their prescription is sadly doing worse than part of it that's not.
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
People are too precious about standing up to religions.
Fundamentalist Mormons believe in polygamy and a man’s right to take underage girls as wives. That stems directly from their perverted form of Christianity and is condemned as such
Why is my right to 120Kg of Oralloy denied?
Will no one respect my culture?
You can mock or question Christianity without the same level of concern that a psycho will cut your head off.
The lack of a reformation and/or the basically fundamentalist nature of Islam makes it a different beast.
Plenty of countries have done vile crap in the name of Christianity. Christianity is pretty evil when its dogmatically enforced in my view, the good thing is that people are quite relaxed now at turning a blind eye to most of the worst Christian rules post-Reformation. Islam unfortunately has never been through a Reformation in the same way.
Anyone who is dogmatically Christian, or Muslim etc ... it tends to be dangerous.
Thanks for changing my mind, it is a beautiful thing
However I would say the fundamentals of Christianity are pretty good, if you truly accept Jesus's reinterpretation of the Old Testament law. The core of his message is forgiveness, pacifism and inclusion, with a bit of secularism thrown in too. You can't say anything like that about Mohammed.
However there is nothing in the New Testament about putting people to death and the New Testament and the belief that Jesus is the Messiah is unique to Christianity
Which is of course impossible under the doctrine of the fall and original sin. Though not being a theologian, I'm not sure if that came along later, so to speak.
You have also for some time talked about "white flight".
You most recently have commented about a non-indigenous shopping mall in your previous manor.
I doubt I've changed your mind.
Drop the Old Testament, and half of the New Testament (anything involving Paul) and it'd be a lot better in my opinion.
A big part of the problem with the Church is its frequently been more about Paul than Jesus.
Oh - and interesting to see most people not saying they’d buy an electric car before 2030. Something has gone a tad wrong with government PR, as eventually we’ll all be left with no choice
Apologies if this Deltapoll poll has already been discussed. Movement looks like more than margin of error stuff.
https://nomadit.co.uk/conference/easa2020/paper/55059
1) That migrants from other European countries are all so much more educated, skilled and hard working than British people
2) Have all returned to their own countries after Brexit
Edit: or at least "Marrying your Deceased Wife's Sister" used to cause a lot of heartburn. Not sure why the reversal.
Your second question is easy - no it doesn't, unless you ignore the New Testament. One of the most famous Gospel passages of all refutes that law:
From John chapter 8: 4 “Teacher,” they said to Jesus, “this woman was caught in the act of adultery. 5 The law of Moses says to stone her. What do you say?”
6 They were trying to trap him into saying something they could use against him, but Jesus stooped down and wrote in the dust with his finger. 7 They kept demanding an answer, so he stood up again and said, “All right, but let the one who has never sinned throw the first stone!” 8 Then he stooped down again and wrote in the dust.
9 When the accusers heard this, they slipped away one by one, beginning with the oldest, until only Jesus was left in the middle of the crowd with the woman. 10 Then Jesus stood up again and said to the woman, “Where are your accusers? Didn’t even one of them condemn you?”
11 “No, Lord,” she said.
And Jesus said, “Neither do I. Go and sin no more.”
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John 8:1-11&version=NLT
More problematic if you don't believe in the NT, but I bet (now on topic for PB) that there is a good Jewish answer; there usually is.
Your first question is a lot more interesting.
Christianity is explicitly separate from culture, and expressed differently in each culture, thanks to the Apostle Paul. There was a very early (before AD50), and very foundational, debate (see Acts of the Apostles chapter 15) about whether Jewish cultural practices (circumcision in this case) should be required of gentile (non-Jewish) converts. After a debate they settled on "no". And you get such varied expressions across cultures as a result.
People who try and tangle them back together often end up in a mess when they try to say that their cultural practises are required.
AIUI traditional Islam rolls this back and subsumes culture, and politics, far more into Islam. Perhaps @TSE could explain?