Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The SCOTUS has a 6-3 majority deliberately designed to overturn Roe vs Wade.
Maybe, but we've had recent examples of the court ruling against conservative causes.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The SCOTUS has a 6-3 majority deliberately designed to overturn Roe vs Wade.
Maybe, but we've had recent examples of the court ruling against conservative causes.
Only because those conservative cases were flat out ridiculous.
If there is no leadership challenge Labour deserve to lose in 2024
SKS inspires nobody. He will not attract sufficient from the pond they are fishing in to do any better than last time as they will lose a similar number of normally Labour types.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The SCOTUS has a 6-3 majority deliberately designed to overturn Roe vs Wade.
Maybe, but we've had recent examples of the court ruling against conservative causes.
Only because those conservative cases were flat out ridiculous.
As an aside, baptising babies has no scriptural basis, despite being rather popular with most branches of Christianity. The Baptists don't do it, (if I remember my RS classes correctly).
As an aside, baptising babies has no scriptural basis, despite being rather popular with most branches of Christianity. The Baptists don't do it, (if I remember my RS classes correctly).
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The SCOTUS has a 6-3 majority deliberately designed to overturn Roe vs Wade.
Maybe, but we've had recent examples of the court ruling against conservative causes.
Only because those conservative cases were flat out ridiculous.
Yes, and so is this one.
Perhaps so but it is deliberately designed to have Roe vs Wade reconsidered.
Off Topic what are the Obstacles in the way of Biden nominating 4 or even 2 socially Liberal SCOTUS candidates. His window is closing why doesnt he just do it??
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continuing Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Texas's abortion law is a clear example of a law implemented for religious reasons. I'm not sure if abortion is actually mentioned in the bible explicitly, but US evangelicals certainly act like it is.
Abortion is not mentioned at all in the Bible. The US evangelical movement only embraced an anti-abortion position in the 1970s.
Psalm 139 '13 For You created my inmost being; You knit me together in my mother’s womb. 14 I praise You because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; Your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from You when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. 16 Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in Your book before one of them came to be.'
The Bible was certainly pro life, the question is more when life begins
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
The most striking thing for me about that poll is how few people are willing to buy an electric car by 2030.
They're expensive and people are still sceptical about range and recharge time. As those get solved the number will go up.
Exactly. If a new electric car has a good range and is as cheap to buy as a new ICE car then the amount of sales will shoot up.
Its getting closer to a tipping point, but not there yet.
The amount of sales are already shooting up - last month (Sept) 15.2% of the market was pure electric, and the Tesla 3 was the best selling of all models.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
Actually a lot in that in terms of having faith in the public on vaccines I.e booster jabs, 12-15 year olds. On my social media you’d guess looked like the majority were again.
Oh - and interesting to see most people not saying they’d buy an electric car before 2030. Something has gone a tad wrong with government PR, as eventually we’ll all be left with no choice
Most people are quite right to be reluctant to buy an electric car now. Current electric cars are either expensive or crap. There will be much better options as we move towards the end of sale of ICE cars.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
How do you know that? What evidence do you have? I at least know a few that have made the move, though I admit they won't be fully representative.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
@HYUFD - it is the urban and suburban areas of Texas which have been growing, and which have also been becoming more Democrat.
That does not suggest that it is California conservatives which are moving.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
How do you know that? What evidence do you have? I at least know a few that have made the move, though I admit they won't be fully representative.
There will be some liberals moving because of high house prices, there will be some conservatives moving too for cultural and high tax reasons.
Conservative Louisiana and Oklahoma and Ohio also send large numbers of migrants to Texas too
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
How do you know that? What evidence do you have? I at least know a few that have made the move, though I admit they won't be fully representative.
There will be some liberals moving because of high house prices, there will be some conservatives moving too for cultural and high tax reasons.
Conservative Louisiana and Oklahoma and Ohio also send large numbers of migrants to Texas too
How do you know these things? You have yet to give any evidence. I at least have anecdotes.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
Yeah me too, mostly software developers who can work remotely and just fly in for 1 day a week in office.
The most striking thing for me about that poll is how few people are willing to buy an electric car by 2030.
They're expensive and people are still sceptical about range and recharge time. As those get solved the number will go up.
Exactly. If a new electric car has a good range and is as cheap to buy as a new ICE car then the amount of sales will shoot up.
Its getting closer to a tipping point, but not there yet.
I have a plugin hybrid and a full EV.
We thought we'd use the plugin hybrid for long trips, and the full EV for short ones. But the amazing bit (in the US at least) is how good the fast charge networks are getting now. When we drove from the Bay Area to Los Angeles (about 500 miles), we stopped once along the way - plugged the car in, went and ate pizza, and when we came out the car was just getting to 100%. It was no more painful than driving a regular vehicle.
That said... that route was great. But when I was going to cross the desert to go from LA to Phoenix, the charging stations were just a little bit too spread out for me to be comfortable. So, it's clearly not all there yet,
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
How do you know that? What evidence do you have? I at least know a few that have made the move, though I admit they won't be fully representative.
There will be some liberals moving because of high house prices, there will be some conservatives moving too for cultural and high tax reasons.
Conservative Louisiana and Oklahoma and Ohio also send large numbers of migrants to Texas too
How do you know these things? You have yet to give any evidence. I at least have anecdotes.
You have anecdote.
The 2 top states with migrants moving to Texas are California and Trump voting Florida, followed by Trump voting Louisiana and Oklahoma
Should the government bail out companies hit by high energy prices?
Yes - 45% No - 35%
I wonder what the percentages would be if you replaced government with tax payer.
Do you support vaccine passports?
Yes - 61% No - 28%
And yet...
Should dancers on Strictly be dropped if they don't have the jab
Yes - 51% No - 30%
So when it affects something specific, people aren't so keen.
Are you worried about...
Interest rates rising?
Yes - 66% No - 29%
Inflation rising?
Yes - 80% No - 17%
I wonder what the cross-tab is like on interest rates and inflation. How many people understand that rates are a tool for controlling inflation?
Losing your job?
Yes - 42% No - 55%
I reckon this is a bit different to 30 years ago.
Will you buy an electric vehicle before 2030?
Yes - 71% No - 14%
As pointed out by @Casino_Royale, this is very revealing.
Who should succeed the Queen?
Charles - 30% William - 41%
Plenty will be disappointed (unless HMQ outlives Charles, of course).
Agreed on most of your comments, but on the passport/Strictly questions, the No level is much the same. Th eYes level is lower, but it's perfectly possible to be in favour of vaccine passports for some kinds of event (e.g. a football match or a race meeting) but not for a show with a smaller number of people. On interest rates, I interpret the question as "Are you personally worried by the impact on you on interest rates rising?" That doesn't mean they wouldn't accept it might be sensible. It's very possible to be worried by both rate rises and inflation.
I find 71% saying they WILL buy an electric car before 2030 to be quite a high figure. It's higher than I'd have guessed, I mean. Also the 14% saying they definitely won't is less than I'd have guessed. To me this indicates the green imperative is penetrating the parts that other imperatives cannot reach.
Should the government bail out companies hit by high energy prices?
Yes - 45% No - 35%
I wonder what the percentages would be if you replaced government with tax payer.
Do you support vaccine passports?
Yes - 61% No - 28%
And yet...
Should dancers on Strictly be dropped if they don't have the jab
Yes - 51% No - 30%
So when it affects something specific, people aren't so keen.
Are you worried about...
Interest rates rising?
Yes - 66% No - 29%
Inflation rising?
Yes - 80% No - 17%
I wonder what the cross-tab is like on interest rates and inflation. How many people understand that rates are a tool for controlling inflation?
Losing your job?
Yes - 42% No - 55%
I reckon this is a bit different to 30 years ago.
Will you buy an electric vehicle before 2030?
Yes - 71% No - 14%
As pointed out by @Casino_Royale, this is very revealing.
Who should succeed the Queen?
Charles - 30% William - 41%
Plenty will be disappointed (unless HMQ outlives Charles, of course).
Agreed on most of your comments, but on the passport/Strictly questions, the No level is much the same. Th eYes level is lower, but it's perfectly possible to be in favour of vaccine passports for some kinds of event (e.g. a football match or a race meeting) but not for a show with a smaller number of people. On interest rates, I interpret the question as "Are you personally worried by the impact on you on interest rates rising?" That doesn't mean they wouldn't accept it might be sensible. It's very possible to be worried by both rate rises and inflation.
On inflation and rate rises, perhaps a question like "would you support the BoE raising rates to tackle inflation?" might have been more revealing.
As for COVID passports, as has been pointed out many times, people are in favour of restrictions on other people.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
@HYUFD - it is the urban and suburban areas of Texas which have been growing, and which have also been becoming more Democrat.
That does not suggest that it is California conservatives which are moving.
Trump won 232 counties out of 254 in Texas in 2020, Biden just 22.
Trump also won 22 out of 36 Texan congressional districts
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Excuse me while I die laughing at the idea high earning upper middle class liberal 'progressives' would ever consider moving to Hartlepool, Barnsley and Stoke from Hampstead and Islington!
The rural home counties is as conservative as they would go (and that at least has Country Life housing and views)
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
How do you know that? What evidence do you have? I at least know a few that have made the move, though I admit they won't be fully representative.
There will be some liberals moving because of high house prices, there will be some conservatives moving too for cultural and high tax reasons.
Conservative Louisiana and Oklahoma and Ohio also send large numbers of migrants to Texas too
How do you know these things? You have yet to give any evidence. I at least have anecdotes.
You have anecdote.
The 2 top states with migrants moving to Texas are California and Trump voting Florida, followed by Trump voting Louisiana and Oklahoma
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
@HYUFD - it is the urban and suburban areas of Texas which have been growing, and which have also been becoming more Democrat.
That does not suggest that it is California conservatives which are moving.
Trump won 232 counties out of 254 in Texas in 2020, Biden just 22.
Trump also won 22 out of 36 Texan congressional districts
I find 71% saying they WILL buy an electric car before 2030 to be quite a high figure. It's higher than I'd have guessed, I mean. Also the 14% saying they definitely won't is less than I'd have guessed. To me this indicates the green imperative is penetrating the parts that other imperatives cannot reach.
Again, I am very sorry for getting the numbers the wrong way round. I blame the graphics person for putting No first...
Actually, I think the right answer to that question is: "don't know"
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Excuse me while I die laughing at the idea high earning upper middle class liberal 'progressives' would ever consider moving to Hartlepool, Barnsley and Stoke from Hampstead and Islington!
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
@HYUFD - it is the urban and suburban areas of Texas which have been growing, and which have also been becoming more Democrat.
That does not suggest that it is California conservatives which are moving.
Trump won 232 counties out of 254 in Texas in 2020, Biden just 22.
Trump also won 22 out of 36 Texan congressional districts
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Yes, I don't think many people really move home within the same country for political reasons. I'd rather live in a solidly Labour area, but it'd be far too much hassle to move for that, even if I didn't have work reasons to stay. Younger people moving for financial reasons makes more sense.
What's interesting is that most people retain their political preferences when they move - hence Outer London becoming more Labour, Red Wall becoming more Tory.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Excuse me while I die laughing at the idea high earning upper middle class liberal 'progressives' would ever consider moving to Hartlepool, Barnsley and Stoke from Hampstead and Islington!
The rural home counties is as conservative as they would go (and that at least has Country Life housing and views)
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Excuse me while I die laughing at the idea high earning upper middle class liberal 'progressives' would ever consider moving to Hartlepool, Barnsley and Stoke from Hampstead and Islington!
The rural home counties is as conservative as they would go (and that at least has Country Life housing and views)
Off Topic what are the Obstacles in the way of Biden nominating 4 or even 2 socially Liberal SCOTUS candidates. His window is closing why doesnt he just do it??
Because it would be hugely controversial to expand the court
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Has your trip back to South Yorkshire caused a yearning for a land of full supermarkets, open filling stations and affordable housing ?
Ah, right. My comment at 4.05 is nullified then. More than nullified - reversed. They are bad numbers not good numbers. The green imperative is NOT penetrating.
1. That’s a small part of what we now call Somalia
2. It’s a protectorate not a colony. Big difference. So, as I originally said, ‘we have no colonial connection’
So what is your proposed solution to all these unwanted Somalis? Especially the ones who most outrageously are here because they are citizens?
I have no solution. There is none. I’m with isam. We stupidly allowed it to happen, it is largely a disaster, but now we have to make the best of it, as decent human beings on all sides. It won’t be easy. As we already see. Yet we can and must try
Meanwhile all further immigration from that part of the world should be - looking at you Ms Patel - well-nigh impossible
I thought Brexit was precisely about letting people from farther parts of the world come here rather than, say, the French.
Well, as a certain poster here pointed out with approval, a certain German tennis professional stated that the problem with France *is* the French.....
So the cosmopolitan thing to do is to hate the French. Apparently.
The real issue is integration - which then runs slap bank into the racism of The Exotic. Other cultures are not to be criticised because they are Other and hence must be Protected.
So various shitheads get to justify their shitty behaviour by "it's my culture".
The ugly truth is that some cultures are subjectively better than others.
If your culture involves treating women like shit, or treating gays like shit, or not working, or . . . then we should be able to stand up proudly and say that we don't respect that culture.
An issue is that culture and religion can be confused/joined to the advantage of some. On occasion, people excuse behaviour (e.g. FGM) on 'religious' grounds, when in reality it is cultural.
It shouldn't make a difference. If a religion is disgraceful then we should say so. If a culture is disgraceful then we should say so.
People are too precious about standing up to religions.
I agree with that, but it's not the point I'm making. There are many practices performed where religion is used as an excuse for what is a cultural act- a classic one is FGM.
So why is it cultural, rather than religious? *) It is not performed by everyone in the religion, or even a minority. *) It is not geographically spread, but occurs in one or a few localised areas. *) More than one religion performs it in those areas *) The 'call' for it in religious texts is sparse. *) Mainly social, not religious, pressures if you do not do it.
Take FGM. It is far from mainstream Muslim practice. It occurs mainly in Africa and Indonesia, with some in parts of the Middle East. Within those regions, some Christian groups perform it, as did a Jewish group (the ?Beta Israel?).
Anyone arguing that FGM is 'religious' is very wrong. And the same goes for many other practices as well.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Excuse me while I die laughing at the idea high earning upper middle class liberal 'progressives' would ever consider moving to Hartlepool, Barnsley and Stoke from Hampstead and Islington!
The rural home counties is as conservative as they would go (and that at least has Country Life housing and views)
Stoke? That doesn't begin with an "I". How can people move from Islington to Stoke?
More seriously, though, it sounds like you, a Conservative member and activist, are writing off Levelling Up already. Cat says goodbye to bag.
Ah, right. My comment at 4.05 is nullified then. More than nullified - reversed. They are bad numbers not good numbers. The green imperative is NOT penetrating.
To be honest, it's a stupid question. It's worse than the "where do you see yourself in five years time?" question in interviews. Ultimately, for electric vehicles to have a breakthrough, there needs to be a step change.
What I want to know is, how many households own only an electric vehicle. That's the true test.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Excuse me while I die laughing at the idea high earning upper middle class liberal 'progressives' would ever consider moving to Hartlepool, Barnsley and Stoke from Hampstead and Islington!
The rural home counties is as conservative as they would go (and that at least has Country Life housing and views)
Stoke? That doesn't begin with an "I". How can people move from Islington to Stoke?
More seriously, though, it sounds like you, a Conservative member and activist, are writing off Levelling Up already. Cat says goodbye to bag.
We can reduce the gap between North and South via HS2 and better infrastructure north of the Watford gap but we are never going to make Hull or Stoke global cities to rival London
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Islywn ?
Islwyn. Even the Welsh would find Islywn hard to pronounce.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
It's their third kit! Look at how terrible their away kit is...
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
It's their third kit! Look at how terrible their away kit is...
It scares me that Nike not only make the kits for Spurs but they also make them for Liverpool.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
It's their third kit! Look at how terrible their away kit is...
It scares me that Nike not only make the kits for Spurs but they also make them for Liverpool.
I always thought Nike made fairly decent kits/clothes for Arsenal. When we switched to PUMA it was so obvious that they were aiming for the bottom of the market. But I think they've all gone downmarket in recent seasons.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Islywn ?
That sounds like Wales so still not quite fitting the bill. Ixworth is the place I naturally think of as where somebody from Islington might like to move once the Magnificent Muscly Man has Got Levelling Up Done - as I think he likes to put it, in case our attention strays after 4 words.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Islywn ?
That sounds like Wales so still not quite fitting the bill. Ixworth is the place I naturally think of as where somebody from Islington might like to move once the Magnificent Muscly Man has Got Levelling Up Done - as I think he likes to put it, in case our attention strays after 4 words.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
It's their third kit! Look at how terrible their away kit is...
It scares me that Nike not only make the kits for Spurs but they also make them for Liverpool.
I always thought Nike made fairly decent kits/clothes for Arsenal. When we switched to PUMA it was so obvious that they were aiming for the bottom of the market. But I think they've all gone downmarket in recent seasons.
I liked the New Balance Liverpool kits but that's all they did.
The Nike ranges are really great, that said, having football obsessed kids is an expensive business.
Do clubs need to release three kits every season with all the resultant three different training outfits as well?
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Islywn ?
That sounds like Wales so still not quite fitting the bill. Ixworth is the place I naturally think of as where somebody from Islington might like to move once the Magnificent Muscly Man has Got Levelling Up Done - as I think he likes to put it, in case our attention strays after 4 words.
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
Actually on the whole they are.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
@HYUFD - it is the urban and suburban areas of Texas which have been growing, and which have also been becoming more Democrat.
That does not suggest that it is California conservatives which are moving.
Tbf. You can be a "California Conservative". My Godfather was one. I doubt he'd have felt comfortable as a Texas Conservative.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
It's their third kit! Look at how terrible their away kit is...
It scares me that Nike not only make the kits for Spurs but they also make them for Liverpool.
I always thought Nike made fairly decent kits/clothes for Arsenal. When we switched to PUMA it was so obvious that they were aiming for the bottom of the market. But I think they've all gone downmarket in recent seasons.
I liked the New Balance Liverpool kits but that's all they did.
The Nike ranges are really great, that said, having football obsessed kids is an expensive business.
Do clubs need to release three kits every season with all the resultant three different training outfits as well?
If I was Prime Minister, I'd pass a law banning the releasing of a new home kit every season. I think alternating new home/away kits each season is fair enough.
Should the government bail out companies hit by high energy prices?
Yes - 45% No - 35%
I wonder what the percentages would be if you replaced government with tax payer.
Do you support vaccine passports?
Yes - 61% No - 28%
And yet...
Should dancers on Strictly be dropped if they don't have the jab
Yes - 51% No - 30%
So when it affects something specific, people aren't so keen.
Are you worried about...
Interest rates rising?
Yes - 66% No - 29%
Inflation rising?
Yes - 80% No - 17%
I wonder what the cross-tab is like on interest rates and inflation. How many people understand that rates are a tool for controlling inflation?
Losing your job?
Yes - 42% No - 55%
I reckon this is a bit different to 30 years ago.
Will you buy an electric vehicle before 2030?
Yes - 71% No - 14%
As pointed out by @Casino_Royale, this is very revealing.
Who should succeed the Queen?
Charles - 30% William - 41%
Plenty will be disappointed (unless HMQ outlives Charles, of course).
Should the next James Bond be a Woman? Sir Keir says yes Public say 56/34 No
Is it right to say only Women have a Cervix? Sir Keir says No Public say 50/23 Yes
What would Boris think?
Boris would think something like this perhaps.....
How can I get a freebie dinner sat next to the Bond girl? If I was sitting next to the Bond girl, I could investigate by surreptitiously sliding my hand up her leg
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
I'm not sure drinking, public vomiting and visiting Riyadh would be a good combination.
On the other hand if a Geordie was arrested (or worse) there would be an awful lot of damage done to the sportwashing being attempted.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
It's their third kit! Look at how terrible their away kit is...
It scares me that Nike not only make the kits for Spurs but they also make them for Liverpool.
I always thought Nike made fairly decent kits/clothes for Arsenal. When we switched to PUMA it was so obvious that they were aiming for the bottom of the market. But I think they've all gone downmarket in recent seasons.
I liked the New Balance Liverpool kits but that's all they did.
The Nike ranges are really great, that said, having football obsessed kids is an expensive business.
Do clubs need to release three kits every season with all the resultant three different training outfits as well?
No they don't, they should only have two kits - it cant be that hard to find a change strip that doens't clash if the home kit does
Saying that I have fallen into the trap of buying my son the Arsenal third kit, that we lost to Brentford in, because I like the colours!
Why can we distinguish between culture and religion when it comes to Christianity but not when it comes to Islam?
The Bible says we should stone a woman to death for adultery but if a country implements that policy nobody is going to blame that on Christianity.
Find me a country implementing biblical law to real life and I'll condemn it.
USA Red States, way they're going. Joke, but only just.
Sadly not a joke given what's happening on Texas over women's rights and I've condemned them multiple times, really hoping the SCOTUS will restore those rights and over the long term those Californians moving to Texas will mean a Democratic governor.
The liberal majority in California will stay there as it is already a blue state.
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continue Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
A California republican voter isn't the same as a Texas republican voter. Additionally, where's your evidence that it's all GOO voters moving, from my anecdotes of friends it's mostly younger people struggling to get on the California property ladder that are moving and they're all pretty solid Dem voters. All four of the people I know who have made the journey are absolutely solid blue voters, and while I'm sure that's not a representative sample it does rather undermine your made up idea that it's all GOP voters moving to Texas.
I think you are absolutely correct about who is moving: the reality is that LA/SF/The Valley are all ridiculously expensive places to live. A software engineer earning $120k/year (which is hardly a pittance) with a wife earning $60k (also not a pittance) will struggle to earn enough to buy a three bedroom house in the Bay Area.
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Yes, well you and I both know people who have made the move. HYFUD has got the voices in his head.
I know quite a few people who've left the Bay Area to move to places like South Carolina and Texas in the last couple of years.
This is what we progressives need to counter the greater FPTP efficiency of the reactionary vote. Hopefully we'll see similar here in England. Migration in serious numbers from Highgate to Hartlepool, Battersea to Barnsley, Islington to any of the many rough & ready provincial places starting with an "I". Once Johnson has Levelled Up everywhere there's absolutely no reason why this shouldn't happen.
Has your trip back to South Yorkshire caused a yearning for a land of full supermarkets, open filling stations and affordable housing ?
Yep. And no masks, let's not forget that. Almost everybody in the big Asda up there going commando and if they were scared, they certainly weren't showing it.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
It will be tears and sorrow drowning in an hour and a half. So,no,change there.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
Too many games now where the kits, although different, are hard to tell apart from a distance. Very annoying.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
Spurs deserve to be relegated for that kit alone.
I'm not sure drinking, public vomiting and visiting Riyadh would be a good combination.
On the other hand if a Geordie was arrested (or worse) there would be an awful lot of damage done to the sportwashing being attempted.
I have a Scottish boss and both of us are convinced that Scotland are going to qualify for next year's world cup.
The irony will be Scotland qualify for their first world cup in a quarter of a century and it will be in Qatar, somewhere the Tartan Army and their hard drinking fans will fit in royally.
I wonder what happens if Newcastle get relegated? Do the Saudis get buyer's remorse and sell to whoever is available and try and buy Arsenal or West Ham?
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
I wonder what Newcastle's position will be on the prohibition on serving alcohol during matches.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
I wonder what Newcastle's position will be on the prohibition on serving alcohol during matches.
For a support that finds even the wearing of a T shirt a bit sissy the burqa is definitely going to be a step into the unknown.
Toon is insane today. Saudi flags, headdresses, about 4x the number folk around than normal. Pubs, bars full to bursting. Visit Riyadh giant adverts on Eldon Square. A roar that was heard all around the city. Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
I wonder what Newcastle's position will be on the prohibition on serving alcohol during matches.
Do you mean not allowing alcohol in the stands? There's talk about that being allowed again. Personally I'd rather we didn't because people spill drinks and it's not very nice.
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SKS inspires nobody. He will not attract sufficient from the pond they are fishing in to do any better than last time as they will lose a similar number of normally Labour types.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosque
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masjid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jama_Masjid,_Delhi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Mosque
It is conservatives in California who will be more likely to move to red states seeking lower taxes and more conservative values.
Now continuing Hispanic immigration to Texas might turn it more blue but then there are also plenty of pro life Hispanic Catholics
Its getting closer to a tipping point, but not there yet.
You knit me together in my mother’s womb.
14 I praise You because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
Your works are wonderful,
I know that full well.
15 My frame was not hidden from You
when I was made in the secret place,
when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body;
all the days ordained for me were written in Your book
before one of them came to be.'
The Bible was certainly pro life, the question is more when life begins
Another 23.5% were hybrids.
Though the market is not fully recovered yet.
A California Republican voter will tend to live in rural parts of the state, be religious and often evangelical just as a Texas Republican voter is.
Certainly there has been plenty of movement of California conservatives to Arizona and Texas is no doubt the same.
Yes there might be a few California liberals moving from LA county or San Francisco to liberal areas of Texas like Austin but they will be the minority
If they move to Phoenix or Austin, and his salary drops to $100k, and hers to $50k - well, suddenly they can afford a nice house, in a nice area, with decent public schools.
California is paying the price for imposing far too many restrictions on new building, which has sent property prices through the roof.
(With a friend, I bought a plot of land in Los Angeles to build a spec house. We acquired it three years ago. We are still at least a year away from breaking ground.)
Edit: innocent until proven guilty… he denies all wrongdoing etc
That does not suggest that it is California conservatives which are moving.
Should the government bail out companies hit by high energy prices?
Yes - 45%
No - 35%
I wonder what the percentages would be if you replaced government with tax payer.
Do you support vaccine passports?
Yes - 61%
No - 28%
And yet...
Should dancers on Strictly be dropped if they don't have the jab
Yes - 51%
No - 30%
So when it affects something specific, people aren't so keen.
Are you worried about...
Interest rates rising?
Yes - 66%
No - 29%
Inflation rising?
Yes - 80%
No - 17%
I wonder what the cross-tab is like on interest rates and inflation. How many people understand that rates are a tool for controlling inflation?
Losing your job?
Yes - 42%
No - 55%
I reckon this is a bit different to 30 years ago.
Will you buy an electric vehicle before 2030?
Yes - 71%
No - 14%
As pointed out by @Casino_Royale, this is very revealing.
Who should succeed the Queen?
Charles - 30%
William - 41%
Plenty will be disappointed (unless HMQ outlives Charles, of course).
Conservative Louisiana and Oklahoma and Ohio also send large numbers of migrants to Texas too
Sir Keir says yes
Public say 56/34 No
Is it right to say only Women have a Cervix?
Sir Keir says No
Public say 50/23 Yes
42% view Charles positively, 24% negatively
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10099469/Id-holiday-Boris-Johnson-Keir-Starmer-say-voters.html
We thought we'd use the plugin hybrid for long trips, and the full EV for short ones. But the amazing bit (in the US at least) is how good the fast charge networks are getting now. When we drove from the Bay Area to Los Angeles (about 500 miles), we stopped once along the way - plugged the car in, went and ate pizza, and when we came out the car was just getting to 100%. It was no more painful than driving a regular vehicle.
That said... that route was great. But when I was going to cross the desert to go from LA to Phoenix, the charging stations were just a little bit too spread out for me to be comfortable. So, it's clearly not all there yet,
The 2 top states with migrants moving to Texas are California and Trump voting Florida, followed by Trump voting Louisiana and Oklahoma
https://apnews.com/article/texas-business-census-2020-science-0d436b250dc07111bff4b4f6cdd6682b#:~:text=Most of the Texas movers,Texas over the last decade.&text=Louisiana, Oklahoma, Illinois, Georgia,residents are moving to Texas.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/92367454@N02/11886500863
As for COVID passports, as has been pointed out many times, people are in favour of restrictions on other people.
Trump also won 22 out of 36 Texan congressional districts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election_in_Texas
23.9%
You may recall Jesus’s reaction to the woman who was “taken in adultery”: “let him who is without sin cast the first stone”
* the clue is in the name
Islywn ?
The rural home counties is as conservative as they would go (and that at least has Country Life housing and views)
Yes - 14%
No - 71%
Do you think Loving County is at all comparable to Harris County?
If you sum up 206 of the 254 counties combined they had fewer votes cast than Harris did alone.
Actually, I think the right answer to that question is: "don't know"
https://www.kxan.com/news/national-news/us-census/data-heres-how-texas-population-increased-in-the-past-decade-according-to-the-2020-census/#:~:text=Hays County grew at the,top five fastest-growing counties.
The fastest growing county in Texas - Hays - flipped from Trump to Biden.
What's interesting is that most people retain their political preferences when they move - hence Outer London becoming more Labour, Red Wall becoming more Tory.
So why is it cultural, rather than religious?
*) It is not performed by everyone in the religion, or even a minority.
*) It is not geographically spread, but occurs in one or a few localised areas.
*) More than one religion performs it in those areas
*) The 'call' for it in religious texts is sparse.
*) Mainly social, not religious, pressures if you do not do it.
Take FGM. It is far from mainstream Muslim practice. It occurs mainly in Africa and Indonesia, with some in parts of the Middle East. Within those regions, some Christian groups perform it, as did a Jewish group (the ?Beta Israel?).
Anyone arguing that FGM is 'religious' is very wrong. And the same goes for many other practices as well.
More seriously, though, it sounds like you, a Conservative member and activist, are writing off Levelling Up already. Cat says goodbye to bag.
What I want to know is, how many households own only an electric vehicle. That's the true test.
A roar that was heard all around the city.
Public vomitting began well before 3 pm.
The Nike ranges are really great, that said, having football obsessed kids is an expensive business.
Do clubs need to release three kits every season with all the resultant three different training outfits as well?
How can I get a freebie dinner sat next to the Bond girl?
If I was sitting next to the Bond girl, I could investigate by surreptitiously sliding my hand up her leg
On the other hand if a Geordie was arrested (or worse) there would be an awful lot of damage done to the sportwashing being attempted.
Saying that I have fallen into the trap of buying my son the Arsenal third kit, that we lost to Brentford in, because I like the colours!
I see lots of people talking about the Covid rate in the UK being high and how no one seems to concerned about it anymore. Have we now found the "acceptable level of death"?
https://twitter.com/dizzy_thinks/status/1449265867901001728
The irony will be Scotland qualify for their first world cup in a quarter of a century and it will be in Qatar, somewhere the Tartan Army and their hard drinking fans will fit in royally.
Was a seminal moment last season.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11669/12153881/rainbow-laces-liverpool-captain-jordan-henderson-shows-how-lgbt-campaign-makes-a-difference
I think they'll ramp it up even more to as the opposition to the rent boys chant.