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And on the subject of Bob Dylan, he paints very passably well. And welds artistic iron gates quite astonishingly well.0
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Something crazy, like Margaret Mitchell?dixiedean said:
Fair enough. But only 2 have whole ones to themselves.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Most Nobel Prizes are shared between two or three people. It is rare to win one outright. Still counts.dixiedean said:DecrepiterJohnL said:
Bob Dylan and Al Gore?dixiedean said:I suppose everyone could name the only 2 people to have won an Oscar and a Nobel Prize without googling?
Technically Al Gore shared the Nobel.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Bob Dylan and Al Gore?dixiedean said:I suppose everyone could name the only 2 people to have won an Oscar and a Nobel Prize without googling?
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Bruce Dickinson is the person I would most like to share a pint with. Happy for him to choose the pint and fill the jukebox.Cookie said:
Bruce Dickinson: Rock star, pilot, Olympic fencer, brewer, DJ and entrepreneur. Some overlap, but not lots.Foxy said:
Bill Oddie: comedian and birdwatcher...TimS said:
More recently:Leon said:
He is quite The DudeFoxy said:
That's a pretty impressive double. Has anyone else manages it?dixiedean said:
Not only an Olympian, but a medallIst and a Nobel Prize winner too. Quite the double.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Conservatives had Seb Coe and Chris Chataway; LibDems Sir Ming Campbell; has Labour ever had an Olympian MP?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Noel-Baker
I am fascinated by people who excel outrageously in entirely diverse human endeavours
Samuel Beckett, famously a Nobel Prize for Literature AND he's in Wisden
Sir John Vanbrugh, a great architect AND a fine playwright? How?
Churchill: journalist, cavalryman, painter, bricklayer, historian, orator, and won World War 2 (with a bit of help)
Michelangelo was just obscenely talented. A world class, top 10 painter. But also a world class top 10 sculptor?! But wait, also a world class top 10 architect???
And - many don't realise - also a notable poet
But my favourite is possibly Gabrielle d'Annunzio. Excellent poet. Sometimes brilliant journalist. Deeply clever and quite successful politician. Fine and brave airman. Military innovator. Pioneering bomber. Genius womanizer. Radical autocrat of anarchist city state. WTAF
Hard to beat
Kim Wilde: pop star and horticulturalist
Parry Gripp: pop star and horticulturalist
Alan Titchmarsh: romantic author and horticulturalist
Monty Don: fashion jeweller and horticulturalist
Got expelled from school.for pissing in his headmaster's dinner.
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Scratch that. The Author is not American.Foxy said:
Something crazy, like Margaret Mitchell?dixiedean said:
Fair enough. But only 2 have whole ones to themselves.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Most Nobel Prizes are shared between two or three people. It is rare to win one outright. Still counts.dixiedean said:DecrepiterJohnL said:
Bob Dylan and Al Gore?dixiedean said:I suppose everyone could name the only 2 people to have won an Oscar and a Nobel Prize without googling?
Technically Al Gore shared the Nobel.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Bob Dylan and Al Gore?dixiedean said:I suppose everyone could name the only 2 people to have won an Oscar and a Nobel Prize without googling?
And Bob Dylan is one.0 -
Just figured out the reason Labour politicians keep calling Boris ‘Johnson’ is to associate him with the ‘Johnson Variant’
Not a bad idea, but the public let them down by not catching Covid/dying in sufficient numbers0 -
The other one is George Bernard Shaw.
Literature 1925.
Best writing, screenplay 1939 for his adaptation of Pygmalion.2 -
And publican’s supporter.Cyclefree said:
OK - so I'm bloody well going to nominate myself.TimS said:There’s a serious historical point in the recounting of Renaissance people of the past. 2 points in fact.
Firstly, that late 20th century capitalism with its emphasis on specialism to the angels and pinheads level and the apparent efficiency it brought squeezed the air out of the idea of the multitalented individual, evoking as it does the sin of amateurism. In doing so it has created an industrial society that is successful when times are predictable, but flounders when they change bigly. The Silicon Valley bros may think they are Renaissance men because they can run websites, make electric cars and send people to space but they are still playing in one narrow field: VC-funded tech. In the mid 21st century we are now entering, where all the straightforward challenges can be managed by robots so only the impossible challenges remain, we are going to need more proper Renaissance people.
Second, the examples we can all think of are men. Why? Because women have had to be multitalented by default for millennia. And the late capitalist love of singular specialism is perhaps one of the reasons women still to this day face scepticism at the idea they could possibly hold down a powerful job AND raise children. It’s the same engineering mindset that says you can’t be both a composer and a chemist. Or a pop star and horticulturalist, like my friend Richard.
Cyclefree: Top investigator, mother and PB header writer (+ amateur horticulturalist).
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That’ll be the worldwide dominant variant, better known as delta then? Ludicrous to call it Johnson.isam said:Just figured out the reason Labour politicians keep calling Boris ‘Johnson’ is to associate him with the ‘Johnson Variant’
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Not wishing to start a kerfuffle. But is it the dominant strain worldwide yet?turbotubbs said:
That’ll be the worldwide dominant variant, better known as delta then? Ludicrous to call it Johnson.isam said:Just figured out the reason Labour politicians keep calling Boris ‘Johnson’ is to associate him with the ‘Johnson Variant’
Not a bad idea, but the public let them down by not catching Covid/dying in sufficient numbers
It may be, I don't know.0 -
No, much simpler. It is simply to not accept the "Boris" character that he plays, but rather the Johnson underneath.isam said:Just figured out the reason Labour politicians keep calling Boris ‘Johnson’ is to associate him with the ‘Johnson Variant’
Not a bad idea, but the public let them down by not catching Covid/dying in sufficient numbers
Usage predates the "Johnson Variant"0 -
Rolf Harris: Royal Society Artist, Musician and singer, TV presenter...have I missed anything?Benpointer said:
Jeffrey Archer: politician, author, sprinter and convict.Cookie said:Jeffrey Archer: politician, author and sprinter.
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I see the NRL is not releasing players for rugby league world cup.
That means no Tonga (Favourites without Aus + NZ), Samoa or Fiji. And England will be weakened. Although we won't have anyone to beat.
And hence no tournament.
Quite clear where this is coming from, and it isn't the Oz and NZ government.
Bailing out the sport of rugby league will move up the political agenda.0 -
I was actually thinking of mentioning you in the horticulturalist list. The unique thing about gardening is its proper mix of art, science and PE as well as a universal, almost classless appeal.Cyclefree said:
OK - so I'm bloody well going to nominate myself.TimS said:There’s a serious historical point in the recounting of Renaissance people of the past. 2 points in fact.
Firstly, that late 20th century capitalism with its emphasis on specialism to the angels and pinheads level and the apparent efficiency it brought squeezed the air out of the idea of the multitalented individual, evoking as it does the sin of amateurism. In doing so it has created an industrial society that is successful when times are predictable, but flounders when they change bigly. The Silicon Valley bros may think they are Renaissance men because they can run websites, make electric cars and send people to space but they are still playing in one narrow field: VC-funded tech. In the mid 21st century we are now entering, where all the straightforward challenges can be managed by robots so only the impossible challenges remain, we are going to need more proper Renaissance people.
Second, the examples we can all think of are men. Why? Because women have had to be multitalented by default for millennia. And the late capitalist love of singular specialism is perhaps one of the reasons women still to this day face scepticism at the idea they could possibly hold down a powerful job AND raise children. It’s the same engineering mindset that says you can’t be both a composer and a chemist. Or a pop star and horticulturalist, like my friend Richard.
Cyclefree: Top investigator, mother and PB header writer (+ amateur horticulturalist).
So there!!0 -
NEW: Number of Americans hospitalized with COVID-19 tops 46,000, highest since March0
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Calling it the "Johnson Variant" is pretty childish.isam said:Just figured out the reason Labour politicians keep calling Boris ‘Johnson’ is to associate him with the ‘Johnson Variant’
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https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/jul/30/pom-bears-popchips-and-hula-hoops-why-the-hundred-is-so-hard-to-digest
Right...well the Guardian, the Rogeradumus of what the plebs enjoy, think the Hundred is crap, like Clarkson's farm...nailed on it is a mega success then.
I keep getting messages from various grounds, saying such and such a fixture is a sell-out, would I like to book tickets for a future fixture.0 -
This mixed triathlon seems a bit silly.0
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Chaos....its only silly if Team GB don't win a medal, like racing on tiny bikes.tlg86 said:This mixed triathlon seems a bit silly.
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A hundred pitch on Clarkson’s farm, with cowpats just inside the boundary, should make all PBers happy, as long as it is shown on terrestrial TV.2
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To keep the Guardianistas happy, need use of Clarkson's wilding pool as a wild swimming location.Fairliered said:A hundred pitch on Clarkson’s farm, with cowpats just inside the boundary, should make all PBers happy, as long as it is shown on terrestrial TV.
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Poll suggests Conservatives could be in danger of losing more than a dozen 'blue wall' seats
As it stands, Boris Johnson could lose up to 16 seats in traditional Tory heartlands, according to research carried out by polling company YouGov.
YouGov found that voting intention in 53 such constituencies in the south and east of England currently held by the party stood at 44% for the Conservatives, 24% for Labour, 18% for the Liberal Democrats and 9% for the Greens.
YouGov said its findings suggest that constituencies such as Chingford and Woodford Green (represented by former cabinet minister and party leader Iain Duncan Smith), Chipping Barnet (currently held by former cabinet minister Theresa Villiers) and Wycombe (represented by prominent Brexiteer and former minister Steve Baker) could change hands.
"A large drop in the Conservative vote share would also severely threaten four other Tory constituencies, including current Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab in Esher and Walton as well as Cambridgeshire South, Cities of London and Westminster, and Guildford," Mr English said.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/poll-suggests-conservatives-could-be-in-danger-of-losing-more-than-a-dozen-blue-wall-seats-123684890 -
Or maybe because Johnson is his surname?isam said:Just figured out the reason Labour politicians keep calling Boris ‘Johnson’ is to associate him with the ‘Johnson Variant’
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Indeed. Like a light 150 km spin on a TdF "rest" day.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
I made the mistake of riding with the Brownlee brothers on Zwift, doing a light session...its was brutal.dixiedean said:
Indeed. Like a light 150 km spin on a TdF "rest" day.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
That represents a change of -8 for the Conservatives from their 2019 performance in these constituencies, +4 for Labour, a surprising 6pt drop for the Liberal Democrats, and a sizeable 7pt gain for the Greens.StuartDickson said:Poll suggests Conservatives could be in danger of losing more than a dozen 'blue wall' seats
As it stands, Boris Johnson could lose up to 16 seats in traditional Tory heartlands, according to research carried out by polling company YouGov.
YouGov found that voting intention in 53 such constituencies in the south and east of England currently held by the party stood at 44% for the Conservatives, 24% for Labour, 18% for the Liberal Democrats and 9% for the Greens.
YouGov said its findings suggest that constituencies such as Chingford and Woodford Green (represented by former cabinet minister and party leader Iain Duncan Smith), Chipping Barnet (currently held by former cabinet minister Theresa Villiers) and Wycombe (represented by prominent Brexiteer and former minister Steve Baker) could change hands.
"A large drop in the Conservative vote share would also severely threaten four other Tory constituencies, including current Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab in Esher and Walton as well as Cambridgeshire South, Cities of London and Westminster, and Guildford," Mr English said.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/poll-suggests-conservatives-could-be-in-danger-of-losing-more-than-a-dozen-blue-wall-seats-12368489
More evidence that mid-term polling should be taken with a large pinch of salt.1 -
Agreed. But I find it fascinating that YouGov are choosing to look in detail at the Blue Wall.tlg86 said:
That represents a change of -8 for the Conservatives from their 2019 performance in these constituencies, +4 for Labour, a surprising 6pt drop for the Liberal Democrats, and a sizeable 7pt gain for the Greens.StuartDickson said:Poll suggests Conservatives could be in danger of losing more than a dozen 'blue wall' seats
As it stands, Boris Johnson could lose up to 16 seats in traditional Tory heartlands, according to research carried out by polling company YouGov.
YouGov found that voting intention in 53 such constituencies in the south and east of England currently held by the party stood at 44% for the Conservatives, 24% for Labour, 18% for the Liberal Democrats and 9% for the Greens.
YouGov said its findings suggest that constituencies such as Chingford and Woodford Green (represented by former cabinet minister and party leader Iain Duncan Smith), Chipping Barnet (currently held by former cabinet minister Theresa Villiers) and Wycombe (represented by prominent Brexiteer and former minister Steve Baker) could change hands.
"A large drop in the Conservative vote share would also severely threaten four other Tory constituencies, including current Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab in Esher and Walton as well as Cambridgeshire South, Cities of London and Westminster, and Guildford," Mr English said.
https://news.sky.com/story/amp/poll-suggests-conservatives-could-be-in-danger-of-losing-more-than-a-dozen-blue-wall-seats-12368489
More evidence that mid-term polling should be taken with a large pinch of salt.0 -
Aleister Crowley - mountaineer, captain of the Cambridge University chess team, founder of a religion
As for Leonardo, son of Armenia (
), his appraisal may soar still higher when the Voynich manuscript is eventually decoded. 
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Occasionally the Sun still get a good funny headline.
The Sun - STARMA SUTRA Keir Starmer accused of having ‘more positions than Kama Sutra’ after Covid U-turns0 -
So, they are saying Keir is a sex-god...FrancisUrquhart said:Occasionally the Sun still get a good funny headline.
The Sun - STARMA SUTRA Keir Starmer accused of having ‘more positions than Kama Sutra’ after Covid U-turns0 -
When I was 10, my half back partner was Shaun Edwards.FrancisUrquhart said:
I made the mistake of riding with the Brownlee brothers on Zwift, doing a light session...its was brutal.dixiedean said:
Indeed. Like a light 150 km spin on a TdF "rest" day.FrancisUrquhart said:
As we moved through the age groups I learned the difference between committed, single pointed focussed nascent superstar and enthusiastic, skilled amateur slacker, who had some other interests.
Only too well.1 -
Armin Laschet admits plagiarising part of his book
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/armin-laschet-admits-plagiarising-part-of-his-book-mvs828ncw
What is it with German politicians copying big chunks of their Phd Thesis / books?0 -
Going for, going for, Gold.
That's jinxed it. All my fault.0 -
Get ready to watch GB News for the rest of the year!dixiedean said:Going for, going for, Gold.
That's jinxed it. All my fault.
One problem is there is now a group working together on the bike, that is a huge advantage on reducing a lead.0 -
In the dim & distant past I worked for a telecom company that specialised in premium rate phone lines for all sorts of weird and wonderful services, including Mr Titchmarsh and his green fingers. He was excessively interested in his call volumes and his resultant revenue share, offputtingly so I thought at the time.kinabalu said:
Very smooth operator, Alan Titchmarsh. Doesn't have the edge of Monty Don but not everyone wants that in a gardening presenter.Cookie said:
I once overtook Titchmarsh on the M5 in Somerset. He was driving a Rolls Royce with the registration G4DNR, which kind of forced you to peer in see who it was. He seemed - though it must happen dozens of times a journey - highly satisfied to have been clocked and gave us a smile and a languid wave.Leon said:
And thus it was, that the humble millions trembled before the nameTimS said:
More recently:Leon said:
He is quite The DudeFoxy said:
That's a pretty impressive double. Has anyone else manages it?dixiedean said:
Not only an Olympian, but a medallIst and a Nobel Prize winner too. Quite the double.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Conservatives had Seb Coe and Chris Chataway; LibDems Sir Ming Campbell; has Labour ever had an Olympian MP?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Noel-Baker
I am fascinated by people who excel outrageously in entirely diverse human endeavours
Samuel Beckett, famously a Nobel Prize for Literature AND he's in Wisden
Sir John Vanbrugh, a great architect AND a fine playwright? How?
Churchill: journalist, cavalryman, painter, bricklayer, historian, orator, and won World War 2 (with a bit of help)
Michelangelo was just obscenely talented. A world class, top 10 painter. But also a world class top 10 sculptor?! But wait, also a world class top 10 architect???
And - many don't realise - also a notable poet
But my favourite is possibly Gabrielle d'Annunzio. Excellent poet. Sometimes brilliant journalist. Deeply clever and quite successful politician. Fine and brave airman. Military innovator. Pioneering bomber. Genius womanizer. Radical autocrat of anarchist city state. WTAF
Hard to beat
Kim Wilde: pop star and horticulturalist
Parry Gripp: pop star and horticulturalist
Alan Titchmarsh: romantic author and horticulturalist
Monty Don: fashion jeweller and horticulturalist
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I think this is going to end up really tight.0
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I always wonder if they have dedicated "transition" practice....todays folks we are going to spend 2hrs practicing putting your shoes on.0
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BREAKING: Texas reports more than 16,000 new coronavirus cases, biggest one-day increase since February0
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Going to end up with USA / France working together to chase down Team GB on the bike.
I think we are going to end up with it all been down to the run.0 -
French guy is looking good.0
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Yep.0
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GOLLLLLDDDDDD...........0
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That was really exciting race.0
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Yes but it is hard to shake off the impression the event was designed as a bet.FrancisUrquhart said:That was really exciting race.
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New thread.0
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Yes. He's made for that.squareroot2 said:
He is v good on Classic Fm..kinabalu said:
Very smooth operator, Alan Titchmarsh. Doesn't have the edge of Monty Don but not everyone wants that in a gardening presenter.Cookie said:
I once overtook Titchmarsh on the M5 in Somerset. He was driving a Rolls Royce with the registration G4DNR, which kind of forced you to peer in see who it was. He seemed - though it must happen dozens of times a journey - highly satisfied to have been clocked and gave us a smile and a languid wave.Leon said:
And thus it was, that the humble millions trembled before the nameTimS said:
More recently:Leon said:
He is quite The DudeFoxy said:
That's a pretty impressive double. Has anyone else manages it?dixiedean said:
Not only an Olympian, but a medallIst and a Nobel Prize winner too. Quite the double.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Conservatives had Seb Coe and Chris Chataway; LibDems Sir Ming Campbell; has Labour ever had an Olympian MP?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Noel-Baker
I am fascinated by people who excel outrageously in entirely diverse human endeavours
Samuel Beckett, famously a Nobel Prize for Literature AND he's in Wisden
Sir John Vanbrugh, a great architect AND a fine playwright? How?
Churchill: journalist, cavalryman, painter, bricklayer, historian, orator, and won World War 2 (with a bit of help)
Michelangelo was just obscenely talented. A world class, top 10 painter. But also a world class top 10 sculptor?! But wait, also a world class top 10 architect???
And - many don't realise - also a notable poet
But my favourite is possibly Gabrielle d'Annunzio. Excellent poet. Sometimes brilliant journalist. Deeply clever and quite successful politician. Fine and brave airman. Military innovator. Pioneering bomber. Genius womanizer. Radical autocrat of anarchist city state. WTAF
Hard to beat
Kim Wilde: pop star and horticulturalist
Parry Gripp: pop star and horticulturalist
Alan Titchmarsh: romantic author and horticulturalist
Monty Don: fashion jeweller and horticulturalist
TITCHMARSH0 -
Not too surprised by that. Quite a lot of vanity in the mix, is my sense of him.Theuniondivvie said:
In the dim & distant past I worked for a telecom company that specialised in premium rate phone lines for all sorts of weird and wonderful services, including Mr Titchmarsh and his green fingers. He was excessively interested in his call volumes and his resultant revenue share, offputtingly so I thought at the time.kinabalu said:
Very smooth operator, Alan Titchmarsh. Doesn't have the edge of Monty Don but not everyone wants that in a gardening presenter.Cookie said:
I once overtook Titchmarsh on the M5 in Somerset. He was driving a Rolls Royce with the registration G4DNR, which kind of forced you to peer in see who it was. He seemed - though it must happen dozens of times a journey - highly satisfied to have been clocked and gave us a smile and a languid wave.Leon said:
And thus it was, that the humble millions trembled before the nameTimS said:
More recently:Leon said:
He is quite The DudeFoxy said:
That's a pretty impressive double. Has anyone else manages it?dixiedean said:
Not only an Olympian, but a medallIst and a Nobel Prize winner too. Quite the double.DecrepiterJohnL said:OT Conservatives had Seb Coe and Chris Chataway; LibDems Sir Ming Campbell; has Labour ever had an Olympian MP?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Noel-Baker
I am fascinated by people who excel outrageously in entirely diverse human endeavours
Samuel Beckett, famously a Nobel Prize for Literature AND he's in Wisden
Sir John Vanbrugh, a great architect AND a fine playwright? How?
Churchill: journalist, cavalryman, painter, bricklayer, historian, orator, and won World War 2 (with a bit of help)
Michelangelo was just obscenely talented. A world class, top 10 painter. But also a world class top 10 sculptor?! But wait, also a world class top 10 architect???
And - many don't realise - also a notable poet
But my favourite is possibly Gabrielle d'Annunzio. Excellent poet. Sometimes brilliant journalist. Deeply clever and quite successful politician. Fine and brave airman. Military innovator. Pioneering bomber. Genius womanizer. Radical autocrat of anarchist city state. WTAF
Hard to beat
Kim Wilde: pop star and horticulturalist
Parry Gripp: pop star and horticulturalist
Alan Titchmarsh: romantic author and horticulturalist
Monty Don: fashion jeweller and horticulturalist
TITCHMARSH0
