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If Not Now, When? – politicalbetting.com
On Friday, Wayne Couzens, a former Metropolitan Police officer and member of the Parliamentary and Diplomatic Protection Squad, authorised to carry a firearm, pleaded guilty to the murder of Sarah Everard earlier this year. He had earlier pleaded guilty to her kidnap and rape. The story of what he did to her is harrowing.
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This is reminiscent of the Yorkshire Ripper. Other truck drivers used to refer to him as the Ripper as a joke.
Roughly doubling every 11 days.
V unsettling. Especially given cases have further to rise. So what next? https://twitter.com/EdConwaySky/status/1414658909239918595/photo/1
If they genuinely used their profiles to boycott social media Im sure the companies would take action immediately, so not sure why this hasn’t happened yet.
Astonishing.
Endless investigations into previous mistakes will do little to change a poor culture if those at the top – her and her senior team – do not accept the need for change.
And if they don’t now, after everything that has happened, will they ever?
Given the first remark, probably not. Otherwise the aforementioned 150 persons would all have been sacked.
And given the various people sitting around the Cabinet table with Johnson there is no chance of any increase in standards being driven from there either. But that Cabinet was endorsed by the electorate at a general election, so it's very hard to see how any improvement can be expected. There's no mechanism seemingly available to us.
It is odd. And it so easy to game if you are a malign foreign actor, eg Russia
We've been discussing the mad "Russian" Scot-nat-o-bot, and her skill at seeming quasi plausible, to roil Unionists and devalue Nattery. How much simpler to just stoke racial grievance. You don't need an English-speaking brainaic in Novosibirsk to do that, you just need a GPT2-ish AI to endlessly create social media accounts and swamp the web
American discourse has been totally poisoned by this, both sides will not even speak to each other. We are next for targetting. It is obvious. So easy to do. Destroy a country with a few million tweets. Doddle
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I'm not sure that's unsettling at all. Admissions seem to lag cases by a very short period, and cases are flattening off right now.
Unless you think that admissions will continue to rise, uncoupled from flattening (or declining) case numbers. Which would be an odd attitude.
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I: 3.8 million vulnerable told: avoid people who haven’t had both jabs #TomorrowsPapersToday
It is uncanny, your ability to find the subject-NOT-of-the-moment
The reason being is that she is a woman and its almost impossible to get rid of a prominent woman unless there is another to replace her for diversity reasons.
https://youtu.be/WIgM0LRtlHs
If you are on a jury you are entitled to come to a conclusion about someone's character, veracity and so on, and act on it. No-one is allowed to challenge you, question you or say you are wrong. You believe or disbelieve a defendant, or a police witness or whoever, just because you do. Call it sixth sense.
Outside the Crown Court that sixth sense is no longer allowed. So all the sorts of judgements Cyclefree wants to be made are difficult, because all your judgements can be challenged, derided as being evidence-free, discriminatory and so on. So people pull their punches, decline to rely on the sixth sense, and use the lack of an independent evidence base to justify decisions they know in their hearts are wrong.
Everyone, especially women, know people who are creeps. People who should not be near: child care, teaching, police duties, and lots of other things. Try proving it to the satisfaction of the HR department and the lawyers!
That personal evaluation, essential to criminal justice, but not permitted or dangerous in the bureaucratic HR world. That's part of the problem.
Simply, if there aren't excessive numbers of Covid patients in any one hospital (or any one intensive care unit within a hospital) at any one time, then the healthcare system may become stressed but shouldn't buckle. AIUI the admission patterns and inpatient totals in the early hotspots have stabilised in such a way as to suggest that the dreaded overwhelming is unlikely.
So long as any significant increase in total patient numbers only represents an increase from very low to fairly low numbers in many different hospitals at once then, whilst that's unfortunate for those personally affected, it oughtn't to cause serious systemic difficulties.
To be honest, I give Robert's views rather more credibility.
A seven-year investigation into alleged police corruption and misconduct linked to the Rotherham abuse scandal has concluded - but there is no date for when the findings will be published.
The Independent Office for Police Conduct launched Operation Linden into the conduct of South Yorkshire Police in relation to the scandal in 2014 and it has grown to become the second biggest inquiry in the organisation’s history after its probe into the Hillsborough disaster involving the same force.
The operation covers 91 investigations into police conduct in the town between the years 1997 to 2013.
The IOPC said today that publication of its overall findings will only take place after South Yorkshire Police have concluded a gross misconduct hearing which is linked to the operation. The hearing is yet to be scheduled but the force said today it is “currently progressing towards setting a date” after appointing a legally-qualified chair to the case.
An IOPC spokesperson said: “We are unable to publish our overarching report until this hearing has been held.”
https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/crime/rotherham-abuse-scandal-iopc-probe-into-alleged-police-corruption-and-misconduct-complete-but-publication-delayed-3275644
Edit, sorry... mainly in reply to Leon.
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Eg if an 18 year old gets a conviction, potentially a minor one, then is a model citizen and twenty years later applies for and gets a job with the force then should that be allowed?
Another reason we should have sane drugs reforms, if every lawyer, Police Officer, MP and judge etc who'd ever even as a student tried drugs were to be dismissed overnight we probably wouldn't have that many left.
Speaking personally I haven't tried any myself since my uni days, and never had any conviction, but I feel sorry for anyone whose life prospects is meant to be destroyed for life due to actions done during adolescence.
Isn't this the vulnerable protection that Great Barrington talked about and was dismissed by Gov scientists as looney outlier crazy talk?
They're not doing any favours to Cylcefree, who is articulate and often interesting, if a bit long-winded for my tastes. Her thoughtful essays go unread because other issues dominate
Puts tin foil hat on....do we think that perhaps there is concern that the virus escape might be occurring a bit more readily than initial thought / current historical data says?
Priti Patel said those involved are participating in “gesture politics” and when asked if England fans had a right to boo said “that's a choice for them, quite frankly”
https://twitter.com/GBNEWS/status/1404407912890519552/video/1
My oldest (year 6) can go back to school tomorrow, but my middle daughter now has ten days house arrest as someone has tested positive in her class now.
My wife is going to take the 'last day of school' photograph every day, and walk her to school every day, because the chances of her getting to her actual last day of school without the bubble popping again seem slim.
I know I'm lucky. We can both work at home; having our daughters around (well, the older two at least) isn't that much of a problem.
But I'm just so utterly sad about all the landmarks they are missing - my oldest at least. Your last term of primary school should be a time of celebration. But everything, everything is quietly being shelved. Two school plays, a leavers assembly, a leavers disco, a year 6 residential, sports day - all gone. Because government will not have the courage of their convictions and just open the country up; and because parents, frightened into submission, will not stop testing their children.
My mother was who told to shield during the plague.
She lives in the same house as her two school age grandchildren who aren't double jabbed.
I guess they are now living in a tent in the garden.
Funny old world.
My suggestion would be to keep these long, philosophical cyclefree-ish threaders for the weekend, a bit like the Sunday papers, when people are relaxed and prepared to engage with more involved and technical arguments
The day after the country crashed out of a mad, nation-gripping footie tournament (amidst great controversy), and the same day the government basically announced its pursuit of pandemic herd immunity (and many deaths from plague) is not optimal for stuff like this. In my opinion
The latest data for in hospital on the dashboard is double that of nineteen days earlier, not eleven.
Plus if people are getting hospitalised as they've refused the vaccine then that's on them. Qué Será Será.
Anyway, the "vulnerable" aren't some vast monolithic bloc. Some people are so medically compromised and/or terrified that they've never stopped shielding; others have had enough and will ignore these kinds of entreaties completely; and you'll get various degrees of caution in between.
The police are a bad joke to quite a few of the middle classes who should be their natural supporters. I can recall a drinks do, where a serving police officer proudly came out with the "plan" that if a member of the armed police was charged, then all member of the armed police would then hand in their armed police "tickets", as a collective action. He was somewhat shocked to discover that this was taken as an assumption of guilt... in a rather well-thats-settled-then kind of way.
This belief has spread throughout government, permanent and elected. The reason why is quite funny, really. Arresting MPs and Plebgate are part of it - but essentially the police systematically convinced Oxford students, year by year, that they were "bent". All those people studying PPE....
The reason, the only reason, that they are going ahead now is because we’re going to have an exit wave anyway and timing wise this is the least worse. Like the second wave we are getting this wave ahead of the rest of Europe. Have you looked at the Dutch figures lately?
Capeesh Italian last night on the isle of dogs
https://twitter.com/CrimeLdn/status/1414678770162802690?s=20
You have a clean enhanced DBS. That, apparently, you don't need one for the Police is jaw-dropping.
It is possible to believe these two thoughts at the same time: there is a problem with racism and thuggery in English football, and Taking The Knee actually makes it worse
A lot of the resentment I am seeing is: fuck these millionaires telling us we are racist, who cares, they lost, I might as well be racist
It is not a wholesome dynamic. Again, my guess is that all this has been easily and expertly stoked by outside actors
IF A TWEET SAYS IT, IT MUST BE TRUE.
To make the Met look respectable.
Definitely a point that needed to be made that most of this abuse is not from the English.
The data so far has said ~70-80% protection against symptomatic infection, up to 91-98% against hospitalization.
The Israel data on small sample size wasn't as good as this, more like 60% against infection. I wary of this because of law of small numbers, but....
I am just saying, lets just presume that its closer to 70% than 80% for infection and 90% rather than to 98%, perhaps there is concern among SAGE that those few extra percentage with an exit wave will be adding a fair number of extra severe cases.
SAGE get to see the full dataset in real time and we know that the revised models had hospitalizations down at ~300 vs the reality of hospitalizations 550-600.
I wouldn’t boo what is a well meaning gesture against a pervasive evil in society and if it is gesture politics it is a good gesture.
we shall see where we are on this after Murder Tuesday - that drop on the right had side will fill in,...
Cases are levelling off.
Admissions and deaths will continue to rise (treble) for a couple of weeks before levelling off.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/worldcup/world-cup-2018-two-football-fans-killed-in-france-as-police-clash-with-revellers-in-paris-amid-world-cup-celebrations-a3887796.html
Britain, to me, is now palpably more racist than it was, say, 5 years ago. America is probably much worse (dunno, haven't been there, but the polls say Yes)
In Marxist terms this may be a Result: you have to break down a society before you can reorder it. But for most this is a disaster. Meanwhile China and Russia are cheering it all on, and probably enabling it
I do not decide when headers are published. I am grateful to be published at all.
Most people can be interested in more than one thing at a time. We have had endless and endlessly boring threads about football. Sometimes people go on about bloody cricket. I know that men think that what interests them should interest everyone else and is the only thing that matters but this ain't necessarily so.
Sometimes you even get posters berating other posters about not taking seriously reports of an obscure new overseas disease because they were more interested in the apparently more important topics of the day. There was one such poster last year, I seem to recall. Whatever happened to him, I wonder?
Sometimes what makes the most immediate noise is not what is most important.
But I promise you this: if I ever get published for money I will ask you to be my editor. You'll have to read what I write then. I am a Woman with Opinions. You seem to have a few of your own. It should be a lot of fun.
Deal?
I demand a free meal at your daughter's pub, however, as payment for my editing. Quid pro quo!
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/guidance-on-shielding-and-protecting-extremely-vulnerable-persons-from-covid-19/19-july-guidance-on-protecting-people-who-are-clinically-extremely-vulnerable-from-covid-19#what-has-changed