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Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

Is it true on BBC1 Wales and BBC1 Scotland they aren't showing the England match but 'Wish You Were Here'?

BBC 1 Wales is showing the match as I am watching it on that channel

Husband (who is Welsh and therefore a bit more dispassionate in this situation) predicted prior to the match that England would beat Germany and then somehow contrive to lose the quarter-final.

I may yet get a chance to see whether his theory is proven correct.

And many of us may also owe @Stocky an apology for laughing.

Andy_JS said:

Who do we play next?

Sweden or Ukraine

Andy_JS said:

Who do we play next?

Sweden or Ukraine.

8pm on Saturday in Rome.

TheScreamingEagles said:

Andy_JS said:

Who do we play next?

Sweden or Ukraine.

8pm on Saturday in Rome.

Timing sucks. I'm supposed to be driving to Ventura.

I wonder if we'll be bookies favourites for the outright after this match as forecast on here?

Northern_Al said:

kinabalu said:

TOPPING said:

ping said:

I’ve come to an uncomfortable conclusion on the euro outright market.

Germany, at ~7/1, are the value bet.

I can’t quite bring myself to back them, though!

England win tonight. You heard it here first.

No, sorry, I've already said it a few times. We might not be lifting the trophy but we ARE going to the final. I'm very confident of this. And that's really all I want. Just for once, one of these big summer international football finals to have England in it. Used to feel the same about Tim Henman at Wimbledon and in his case it was an itch never scratched. His grass court peak lasted 5 years - and he was good - and yet every single Wimbledon final during that time ended up featuring 2 players who were not Tim Henman. It drove me mad. Guess it did him too.

You have a (hypothetical) choice.

If England beat Germany, Conservatives will win Batley & Spen (feelgood factor - Boris).
If Germany beat England, Labour will win Batley & Spen.

Which is it to be for you?

I take the football.

2 world wars and 1 world cup and a Euro last 16 match!

☺☺☺

⚽ coming home

Winning the group, having this game at Wembley, then the rest of the draw definitely better than the Runner Ups draw.

Philip_Thompson said:

I wonder if we'll be bookies favourites for the outright after this match as forecast on here?

Yes already 5/2f on Betfair

Black_Rook said:

Andy_JS said:

Who do we play next?

Sweden or Ukraine

Not very knowledgable about football but I assume Sweden is more likely.

4 minutes extra stress err time

Dutch neighbours clearly watching on some channel 10 seconds or so ahead of us. Takes some of the jeopardy out of England's successful attacks.

Philip_Thompson said:

I wonder if we'll be bookies favourites for the outright after this match as forecast on here?

We already are favourites: 3.35 on Betfair.

England without the ball are exceptional. The next game could be the trickiest one they have.

It's coming home.

Just imagine just how good this England defence would be if Southgate picked the Bolton Baresi, Nat Phillips.

Leon said:

|FUCK OFF SOUTHGATE HATERS

Lol

Well done Stocky

Feck me - well done England

Black_Rook said:

Federer-Mannarino now two sets all. Not that anyone else on here gives a stuff, I know.

Over on BBC2, Mannarino has been forced to retire injured, though FWIW it looked like Federer had already turned it around by that point.

The other seed in his section of the draw is Cameron Norrie. That would be interesting...

Well I have to say that was some poor and curmudgeonly commentary by PB.com.

Superb performance by England.

Contained Germany well in first ten minutes then dominated throughout. If it wasn't for that poor pass by Stirling I'd say flawless by England.

Well done England and Gareth Southgate

That was still a dire match, and England are horribly neGative, but....

WE BEAT GERMANY IN A MAJOR KNOCKOUT CHAMPIONSHIP

That's a big hoodoo - which has lasted my whole life? - home and hosed

Black_Rook said:

Black_Rook said:

Federer-Mannarino now two sets all. Not that anyone else on here gives a stuff, I know.

Over on BBC2, Mannarino has been forced to retire injured, though FWIW it looked like Federer had already turned it around by that point.

The other seed in his section of the draw is Cameron Norrie. That would be interesting...

I think it was evens until Mannarino went down. Tough.

Philip_Thompson said:

Great call @Stocky hope you got good odds!

13.5, backed it at half-time. I'm kicking myself for only betting a puny £4.

contrarian said:

isam said:

Leon said:

isam said:

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Leon said:

England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

What has Southgate done to them?

Eight defensive minded players in the team does that.

Why does Southgate get away with it?? Sack the fucker

A v bland manager. Never really did much at club level, he’s just a safe FA suit.

Yebbut Southgate says the right things on inclusiveness and diversity.

And that is what is important, after all.

LOL.

I'm on Stirling for Golden Boot - backed after England's first game.

But my main winner on that market would be Sweden's Forsberg, who I tipped here five days ago at 130 with BF. Now 25.

Gnud said:

From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros. The sight of the British prime minister and other British leaders, and some English ones too, celebrating the victory, congratulating the team, etc., would be enough to drive a proportion of "soft Noers" completely over the edge. Never mind that England played knockabout recently to try to help Scotland with a nil-all draw.

The effect could accumulate from as early as now, if England goes from success to success in the sporting world. So separatists, take down those German flags! Be as cunning at politics as you think you are! Oh wait - is something getting in the way?

To be fair to Boris he also offered best wishes to Scotland and Wales before their Euros matches as the UK PM should do.

However regardless Gove has made clear this Tory government will refuse an indyref2 before the next UK general election and as Union matters are reserved to Westminster there is nothing the Nats can do about it. Even if they went to the Supreme Court it cannot overrule the Scotland Act 1998 confirming the future of the Union is reserved to Westminster and indeed it might even say an advisory referendum would be illegal without Westminster approval too

ThomasNashe said:

Really pleased for Pickford too, who’s also taken a hell of a lot of flack. I’d actually say he was man of the match.

Declan Rice as well.

Its f*cking coming home

Amazing what happens when you actually put a creative player on the pitch.....

Does the apparent fact that the CFR for delta is about the same as for seasonal flu while delta is far more infectious than common-or-garden SARSCoV2 and should rapidly out-reproduce it mean that barring a killer new variant we should be OK?

Great performance from England. Sterling just huge. Good to see Kane scoring. Hopefully the booing twats might STFU now. They can make it right through to the final, then let's see.

DecrepiterJohnL said:

Betfair prices & implied probabilities:-

1 England 3.15 31.7%
2 Spain 4.3 23.3%
3 Italy 5.5 18.2%
4 Belgium 9 11.1%
5 Denmark 12.5 8.0%
=6 Czechia 30 3.3%
=6 Switzerland 30 3.3%
8 Sweden 50 2.0%
9 Ukraine 85 1.2%
All quoted.

That's presumably skewed by overexcited England fans though?
Though - though I hate to say it, and I will never believe England will win on ITV - England look favourites to get to the final now.

Belgium looks good value to me, though maybe the lack of De Bruyne will hurt them.

Gallowgate said:

Its f*cking coming home

Doesn't it have to go via Rome first?

Gnud said:

Does the apparent fact that the CFR for delta is about the same as for seasonal flu while delta is far more infectious than common-or-garden SARSCoV2 and should rapidly out-reproduce it mean that barring a killer new variant we should be OK?

Yes, one certainly would've thought so, at least at our stage of the vaccination project.

In jurisdictions that aren't so far advanced in that respect things may not go nearly so well, of course.

Stocky said:

ThomasNashe said:

Really pleased for Pickford too, who’s also taken a hell of a lot of flack. I’d actually say he was man of the match.

He was brilliant. So was Walker and Stirling (except for that poor pass). Just a great team effort.

Solid. No egos. This is on.

For me I just want final. Not too fussed about the trophy. Just want us in a big summer final. Too young for 66 so I've never seen it.

Stocky said:

You guys must be watching a different match to me. Apart from first ten minutes England has been the better side. Playing really well I think - better than the first three matches added together. Saka and Walker particularly good.

I've just backed England 2-0.

Bravo.

Best bit was looking at Sterling in the replay when Muller missed the goal after his errant pass.

Sandpit said:

BigRich said:

Well, that was good want it.

I'm not normally a football person, but, what's next, do we know who the England Team are playing next? and when?

Winner of Sweden v Ukraine, who are about to kick off. Saturday night.

And Sweden and Ukraine are the rank outsiders in the betting, 50 and 85 respectively, so we will be expecting to win in Rome on Saturday to get through to the semi-finals.

kinabalu said:

TOPPING said:

Twenty minutes in the first half and 5-10 in the second. The rest was pretty dire if we're honest.

Nope - it was good. Nobody's expecting Brazil 70 or France 84 or Holland 88.

Well England could play like that, they have the players.....

Stocky said:

malcolmg said:

Stocky said:

You guys must be watching a different match to me. Apart from first ten minutes England has been the better side. Playing really well I think - better than the first three matches added together. Saka and Walker particularly good.

I've just backed England 2-0.

you would have been as well throwing it down a drain

!

Cough up drain

what odds did you get

Leon said:

That was still a dire match, and England are horribly neGative, but....

WE BEAT GERMANY IN A MAJOR KNOCKOUT CHAMPIONSHIP

That's a big hoodoo - which has lasted my whole life? - home and hosed

It was a good match and a good performance. It was broadsheet.

Don't be fooled by all that mayhem yesterday. That was exciting but loose and tabloid.

It's coming, Rome.

It's coming, Rome.