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  • kjhkjh Posts: 11,782
    Is there a football match going on?
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,397
    Pickford.
  • MexicanpeteMexicanpete Posts: 28,368

    isam said:

    Gosh England are a boring team to watch. Kane was unlucky there

    They are embarrassingly awful. We're playing so many defensive players that we don't have enough players who can pass forwards to put good attacks together. We've not even defended that well. Germany have made better runs in behind with good passes to pick them out.

    The commentators complain about Kane, but you're not going to have much joy as a striker when the team plays with a back seven.
    Both teams are not up to the standards of this competition

    But then neither is Southgate

    England have really impressed. My fear is a) Phillips gets a red and b) England don't have the legs for extra time.

    Jordan Pickford is awesome!
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 96,046
    One for Boris to thank the Coalition for?

    Labour had the same problem in Hartlepool, and in the last gen elec: despite not being in government for a decade, it is seen as the establishment wherever it has had MPs for years and is blamed for cuts compelled by Tory austerity." Report from Batley:

    https://twitter.com/siennamarla/status/1409878841724747796
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,309
    isam said:

    Gosh England are a boring team to watch. Kane was unlucky there

    He looks like a donkey
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111

    7,091 cases in Spain today. It looks like the Delta wave is rapidly growing on the continent too.

    Of course: that's the inevitable consequence of a variant with an R twice that of regular Covid.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Somebody has to hurry up and score if we're going to get to 3-3 in normal time, as is now customary.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,309
    dixiedean said:

    There seems to be an idea that the winner of this ought to make the final. I beg to differ.

    I have money on Germany doing that, they are hard to beat.
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 78,169
    dixiedean said:

    Pickford.

    World class save tbh
  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047
    malcolmg said:

    isam said:

    Gosh England are a boring team to watch. Kane was unlucky there

    He looks like a donkey
    Plays like one too.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,231
    Stocky said:

    You guys must be watching a different match to me. Apart from first ten minutes England has been the better side. Playing really well I think - better than the first three matches added together. Saka and Walker particularly good.

    I've just backed England 2-0.

    England are the better team with better players and more depth of talent. That's why we are ten places ahead in the FIFA rankings.

    But Germany are using their talent in a smarter way, and have come closer to scoring, and will very likely win. Because we have a timid, defensive manager, lacking imagination
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,309

    Leon said:

    Kane has to go. That's his job. He failed.

    He may have been offside but he has to score

    He is hopeless in this competition

    150 million - really
    Pence maybe
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,309
    Stocky said:

    You guys must be watching a different match to me. Apart from first ten minutes England has been the better side. Playing really well I think - better than the first three matches added together. Saka and Walker particularly good.

    I've just backed England 2-0.

    you would have been as well throwing it down a drain
  • GnudGnud Posts: 298
    edited June 2021
    From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros. The sight of the British prime minister and other British leaders, and some English ones too, celebrating the victory, congratulating the team, etc., would be enough to drive a proportion of "soft Noers" completely over the edge. Never mind that England played knockabout recently to try to help Scotland with a nil-all draw.

    The effect could accumulate from as early as now, if England goes from success to success in the sporting world. So separatists, take down those German flags! Be as cunning at politics as you think you are! Oh wait - is something getting in the way?
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Kane pulling up injured?

    Could be a blessing the way he's played.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    Great opportunity to sub kane
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,012
    Kane down

    He needs to be substituted
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111
    Why both taking Kane off. He wasn't playing before, so it won't make any difference.
  • BigRichBigRich Posts: 3,492
    Gnud said:

    BigRich said:



    By most definitions I am rich, though compared to some I am not. I would like to pay more tax, but only because I would like to earn more, which will mean I will.

    I have always thought it would be a fun thing to have a "voluntary tax" , which of course in a way we do and it is called The National Lottery. I therefore politely suggest to those who say they would like to pay more tax ( I struggle to believe you), imagine you are back in the 1970s and apply the tax multiples that were around then. With the surplus money you have you can buy lottery tickets with a promise that you will give any winnings to a willing beneficiary. I am happy to volunteer as that possible beneficiary should you not think of a more worthy cause.

    I'm reasonably well off in terms of income, and would be pleased to pay more tax, but only as part of a collective effort by democratic decision, as I did in other countries. I wouldn't pay a voluntary tax or bother with the lottery - I simply give away what I don't need. That doesn't seem to me inconsistent with favouring higher taxes in general.

    The classic example is Scandinavia, where the majority view is still that it's fine to earn a lot, on the understanding that up to half goes to fund excellent public services and a really strong safety net if you fall on hard times. That has nothing to do with nationalisation (which is not part of the model) or envy of high-earners - if you earn megabucks and then pay your share, fine.
    What exactly is 'your share' of what somebody else has earned?

    Scandinavia and Sweden in particular exultantly run nations, but they are not particular high tax, they just don't camouflage there tax in things like employers NI or employees NI, and a modest cooperation 21% below OECD average and below what we will have soon. there Income tax looks and overall they pay a bit more tax than us, but not a lot, they also have a state pension that is increases with how much tax you have paid over your life, so it a more like a compulsory private pension.

    They are successful economically, largely because they are low and sensibly regulated.

    They have good public service because they have completion in them, they have school chose, with funding following the child to the school there parents what, and there heath system is not one big monolith, but run by the local regens, who try to out do each other, and many of them contract out provision of services to private company's.
    You didn't mention the "Wallenberg grip".

    Despite this, Sweden has a low Gini coefficient.
    Of course Sweden has a low Gini Coefficient, its a deregulated economy, without silly things like a minimum wage, crushing the pore.
  • stodgestodge Posts: 13,867
    Evening all :)

    I know what you're all thinking - if only we had an in-depth analysis of Icelandic polling at a time like this.

    Iceland is another country due to vote this autumn - the latest poll:

    Independence Party: 24% (-1)
    Left-Green Movement: 15% (-2)
    Social Democratic Alliance: 12%
    Reform Party: 12% (+5)
    Pirate Party: 12% (+3)
    Progressive Party: 11%
    Centre Party: 5% (-6)
    Icelandic Socialist Party: 4% (new)
    People's Party: 4% (-3)

    Changes against the last election.

    The current Government is led by Katrin Jakobsdottir and is formed of the Independence Party, Left-Green Movement and the Progressives and overall they are little changed - down just three points. The main movement has been the rise of Reform at the expense of Centre.

    As we all know, Reform was a split from Independence in 2016 and, unlike the latter, is pro-EU and the cause of the split was the refusal of Independence to hold a referendum on joining the EU (perhaps based on what was happening in the UK at the time). The Pirates have also moved forward as well but you'd have to think the governing coalition was set to continue.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    malcolmg said:

    Stocky said:

    You guys must be watching a different match to me. Apart from first ten minutes England has been the better side. Playing really well I think - better than the first three matches added together. Saka and Walker particularly good.

    I've just backed England 2-0.

    you would have been as well throwing it down a drain
    Better throwing it down the drain. Skip the false hope and go straight to the disappointment.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,309
    Gnud said:

    From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros. The sight of the British prime minister and other British leaders, and some English ones too, celebrating the victory, congratulating the team, etc., would be enough to drive a proportion of "soft Noers" completely over the edge. Never mind that England played knockabout recently to try to help Scotland with a nil-all draw.

    The effect could accumulate from as early as now, if England goes from success to success in the sporting world. So separatists, take down those German flags! Be as cunning at politics as you think you are! Oh wait - is something getting in the way?

    a large Bratwurst
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,012
    Has anyone told England that the idea is to play forward

  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,231
    edited June 2021
    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,231
    edited June 2021
    Two mediocre teams arguing over who comes 9th
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Leon said:

    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?

    Eight defensive minded players in the team does that.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Gnud said:

    From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros.

    But does the Scottish independence movement really want to wait until 3274 for a rematch?
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,231
    isam said:

    Leon said:

    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?

    Eight defensive minded players in the team does that.
    Why does Southgate get away with it?? Sack the fucker
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111
    Don't worry, Southgate is getting ready to sub off any English player who looks even vaguely dangerous.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    edited June 2021
    It's beginning to look as if Federer has had his chips...

    He survives the break points, this time. Crowd ecstatic.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited June 2021
    Booooooorrrrriiiinnnggg

    Yesterday, now that was football
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Gnud said:

    From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros.

    But does the Scottish independence movement really want to wait until 3274 for a rematch?
    Its one HYUFD generation.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Leon said:

    isam said:

    Leon said:

    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?

    Eight defensive minded players in the team does that.
    Why does Southgate get away with it?? Sack the fucker
    Because he wins games and his team keeps clean sheets.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,231
    This is just dismal
  • isamisam Posts: 41,118
    Leon said:

    isam said:

    Leon said:

    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?

    Eight defensive minded players in the team does that.
    Why does Southgate get away with it?? Sack the fucker
    A v bland manager. Never really did much at club level, he’s just a safe FA suit.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270
    It was never going to be a goalfest.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705

    Gnud said:

    From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros.

    But does the Scottish independence movement really want to wait until 3274 for a rematch?
    World Cup Alpha Centauri sounds good, though.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    LOL free kick just after the half way line. Kick sees the ball go back into our own half 😂
  • contrariancontrarian Posts: 5,818
    isam said:

    Leon said:

    isam said:

    Leon said:

    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?

    Eight defensive minded players in the team does that.
    Why does Southgate get away with it?? Sack the fucker
    A v bland manager. Never really did much at club level, he’s just a safe FA suit.
    Yebbut Southgate says the right things on inclusiveness and diversity.

    And that is what is important, after all.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Better from Federer. He's now up a break in the fourth.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826

    Gnud said:

    From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros.

    But does the Scottish independence movement really want to wait until 3274 for a rematch?
    World Cup Alpha Centauri sounds good, though.
    Come on Morgan Industries!
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    Gnud said:

    From a Scottish pro-independence POV the ideal time for an indyref rerun would be shortly after England has won an international sporting competition, such as the World Cup or the Euros.

    But does the Scottish independence movement really want to wait until 3274 for a rematch?
    World Cup Alpha Centauri sounds good, though.
    FT: Anglia Prime 0-0 Teutonosphere

    Teutonosphere win 6-5 on pens.
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,231
    I don't actually care if we lose. We are that bad and that boring. A disgrace to a fine tournament
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,352
    Gotta keep the back seven on. Ludicrous.
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,811
    Leon said:

    This is just dismal

    Penalties here we come!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,978
    eek said:

    one thing that people really need to remember in this day and age is that any photo that provides a flat surface can be very easily abused

    image

    200 grand on a sofa and he can't even use it...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111
    I could see England going all the way to the Final without actually scoring any regular goals.
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111
    Why is Kane still on the pitch?
  • TheValiantTheValiant Posts: 1,874
    Leon said:

    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?

    I always know where the opponents goal is. We’re always kicking the ball away from it.

  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111

    isam said:

    Leon said:

    isam said:

    Leon said:

    England ALWAYS play it back. I give up. Even when there are clear attacking opportunities.

    What has Southgate done to them?

    Eight defensive minded players in the team does that.
    Why does Southgate get away with it?? Sack the fucker
    A v bland manager. Never really did much at club level, he’s just a safe FA suit.
    Yebbut Southgate says the right things on inclusiveness and diversity.

    And that is what is important, after all.
    And yet not a single transgender athlete in the squad.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Is it too early to start thinking about Sweden - Ukraine?
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    The reality of this game is inversely proportional to the hype.
  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047
    Spurs won't get much for Kane after this.
  • pingping Posts: 3,805
    edited June 2021
    England!!!!

    Southgate validated
  • LeonLeon Posts: 55,231
    Southgate. Genius
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    STERLING!!!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,012
    Sterling
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111
    I love the relaxed way Kane gently jogs around, 20 yards behind the ball, really very relaxed about the whole game thing.

    (GO STERLING!!!)
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,397
    Yes. From nowt at all.
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    That's what happens when you do things with any sort of speed.
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905
    Well I never!
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270
    I never rule out a boring '1-0' win each game type of team out of an international tournament, not after Greece won it back in 04. It's how England will win it all if they achieve it.

    There you go.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Who needs Kane when we have Sterling? 😂
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,811

    Leon said:

    This is just dismal

    Penalties here we come!
    I take that back 😀
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111
    Nice of Kane to bother turning up to be in the wall.
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,397
    Another one hits the wall...
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,722
    rcs1000 said:

    I could see England going all the way to the Final without actually scoring any regular goals.

    Oh dear...
  • Black_RookBlack_Rook Posts: 8,905

    Well I never!

    I've been watching Wimbledon, but I knew something positive had finally happened from the prolonged excited squealing from outside.

    Over on BBC2, Federer seems finally - just in time - to be re-discovering his form.
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    If we can keep a clean sheet from here then Southgate deserves his new contract.
  • LostPasswordLostPassword Posts: 18,352
    It is good to see Sterling keep on scoring after all the stick he received in 2018.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 35,978
    So Scotland are better than Germany...
  • CookieCookie Posts: 13,772
    Watching with the bifolds open. Neighbours all around are also watching. When the goal was scored, the biggest cheer was from my Dutch neighbours.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,614
    edited June 2021
    Is it true on BBC1 Wales and BBC1 Scotland they aren't showing the England match but 'Wish You Were Here'?
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,722

    That's what happens when you do things with any sort of speed.

    It does help to get the ball.into an area where you might actually score rather than all the sideways passing...
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Unbelievable Jeff
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,397
    Oh my days.
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,012
    What a miss
  • squareroot2squareroot2 Posts: 6,722
    What a miss...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,111

    rcs1000 said:

    I could see England going all the way to the Final without actually scoring any regular goals.

    Oh dear...
    Glad to get that one wrong :smiley:
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,309
    FFS an open goal
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Cookie said:

    Watching with the bifolds open. Neighbours all around are also watching. When the goal was scored, the biggest cheer was from my Dutch neighbours.

    Massive rivalry between the Dutch and the Deutsche.
  • jonny83jonny83 Posts: 1,270
    Muller what a miss!
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,012

    Is it true on BBC1 Wales and BBC1 Scotland they aren't showing the England match but 'Wish You Were Here'?

    BBC 1 Wales is showing the match as I am watching it on that channel
  • Sunil_PrasannanSunil_Prasannan Posts: 51,811
    Germany's Harry Kane!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,614
    I really need to pee.
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Bloody hell this is stressful
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,614

    Is it true on BBC1 Wales and BBC1 Scotland they aren't showing the England match but 'Wish You Were Here'?

    BBC 1 Wales is showing the match as I am watching it on that channel
    *Whoosh*
  • Philip_ThompsonPhilip_Thompson Posts: 65,826
    Woah *faints*
  • Big_G_NorthWalesBig_G_NorthWales Posts: 63,012
    Would you believe it
  • solarflaresolarflare Posts: 3,705
    Kane was obviously reading PB
  • Andy_JSAndy_JS Posts: 32,541
    2-0.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 33,414
    Oh wow 2-0
  • DecrepiterJohnLDecrepiterJohnL Posts: 27,858
    England 1.01
  • FenmanFenman Posts: 1,047
    Kane finally wakes up.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 119,614
    Never in doubt!

    UEFA should give us the trophy now.
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