Hancock bows to the inevitable and decides to quit – politicalbetting.com
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Scott_xP said:
THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.1 -
Will @sajidjavid want to appoint @didoharding to head @nhs? Saying no would be an early win with the public.
https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/14088792880620380182 -
You've forgot Sir Keith Joseph.ydoethur said:
Correct.Sandpit said:
That old friend of Mr Eagles, Ken Clarke.ydoethur said:
No.Foxy said:
So none since the creation of the NHS...ydoethur said:
Eden wasn’t Health Secretary. He went straight from Junior Minister to Foreign Secretary. The only other role he held - briefly - was Dominion Secretary and then War Secretary.Foxy said:
Health is a poisoned chalice. There is so much bad news to come, and very little good.Scott_xP said:Has Bozo just appointed his successor to cabinet?
Was Eden the last Sec of State for Health to reach the top job?
The last Health Secretary to make it to PM was in fact Neville Chamberlain (1922-23 and 1924-29).
Equally, only one Secretary of State for Education has ever become PM.
I’m fairly sure I don’t need to tell anyone who that was...
Interestingly I think only two ministers have ever been both Health and Education Secretary. Alan Johnson was one. Any guesses as to the other?0 -
Had forgotten Joseph. Make that three.TheScreamingEagles said:
Ken Clarke and Keith Joseph.ydoethur said:
No.Foxy said:
So none since the creation of the NHS...ydoethur said:
Eden wasn’t Health Secretary. He went straight from Junior Minister to Foreign Secretary. The only other role he held - briefly - was Dominion Secretary and then War Secretary.Foxy said:
Health is a poisoned chalice. There is so much bad news to come, and very little good.Scott_xP said:Has Bozo just appointed his successor to cabinet?
Was Eden the last Sec of State for Health to reach the top job?
The last Health Secretary to make it to PM was in fact Neville Chamberlain (1922-23 and 1924-29).
Equally, only one Secretary of State for Education has ever become PM.
I’m fairly sure I don’t need to tell anyone who that was...
Interestingly I think only two ministers have ever been both Health and Education Secretary. Alan Johnson was one. Any guesses as to the other?0 -
That's very common knowledge on the other PBTheScreamingEagles said:
Michael Gove is really well endowed.ydoethur said:
Truthfully? Hopefully not.moonshine said:
Agreed. Hopefully the camera man has got a video of Gove with his trousers down too.ydoethur said:I suppose what may ultimately have counted for Javid is that there is no other appointment needs reshuffling. No junior ministerial ranks to change. No select committees to reorganise. Just Javid returning.
Glad it is him and not Gove though.
In any case, surely the camera would have broken?
It is common knowledge in Westminster and beyond.
Just don't ask how I know this.0 -
Is Javed the first Health Secretary from an ethnic minority?0
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Depends, if you counts Jews as an ethnic minority then he's not.alex_ said:Is Javed the first Health Secretary from an ethnic minority?
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OBSERVER: Gone: Hancock quits after day of humiliation #TommorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408880348860190723/photo/1
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Great name for a centre forward. Good thing he's not a winger.-1
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Austria playing quite well, to be fair0
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Unfortunate juxtaposition with the Diana thing as well...DecrepiterJohnL said:Scott_xP said:THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.1 -
"Matt Finished" is quite a good headline though..ydoethur said:
Unfortunate juxtaposition with the Diana thing as well...DecrepiterJohnL said:Scott_xP said:THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.4 -
Are the PM and Carrie in Portugal atm0
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Austria!!!
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Gooooool!0
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The other night, I was told he liked attending the functions that Dougie Smith would organise.eek said:
That's very common knowledge on the other PBTheScreamingEagles said:
Michael Gove is really well endowed.ydoethur said:
Truthfully? Hopefully not.moonshine said:
Agreed. Hopefully the camera man has got a video of Gove with his trousers down too.ydoethur said:I suppose what may ultimately have counted for Javid is that there is no other appointment needs reshuffling. No junior ministerial ranks to change. No select committees to reorganise. Just Javid returning.
Glad it is him and not Gove though.
In any case, surely the camera would have broken?
It is common knowledge in Westminster and beyond.
Just don't ask how I know this.0 -
Austria yesssss0
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Austria. Said they were doing well.0
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Made me laugh though.DecrepiterJohnL said:Scott_xP said:THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.0 -
Offside0
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Offside boooo0
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No goal!!!0
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Offside.0
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Beth Rigby
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Told that Hancock has left his wife for Gina Coladangelo. Friends of the former Health Secretary say his relationship with Gina is 'recent but serious'.
Yeh, right. Recent my arse as Jim Royle would say.3 -
Somewhat to my surprise my housemate, entirely without prompting from me as I have only just seen this news, said Hancock was gone and that was a shame, as they liked him. They said everyone they know is a hypocrite (I presume that includes me, but I try not to take offence) so he shouldn't have had to resign.0
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He left her on Thursday night just before the story brokerottenborough said:Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
Told that Hancock has left his wife for Gina Coladangelo. Friends of the former Health Secretary say his relationship with Gina is 'recent but serious'.
Yeh, right. Recent my arse as Jim Royle would say.0 -
No holding back the delight in some quarters...
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Open the champagne! The tyrants have started to fall. Let us hope this is just the start of the unraveling of Project Fear and Lockdowns.0 -
A cynic asks: just after a reporter from the Sun rang for a comment?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He left her on Thursday night just before the story brokerottenborough said:Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
Told that Hancock has left his wife for Gina Coladangelo. Friends of the former Health Secretary say his relationship with Gina is 'recent but serious'.
Yeh, right. Recent my arse as Jim Royle would say.1 -
ProbablyDecrepiterJohnL said:
A cynic asks: just after a reporter from the Sun rang for a comment?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He left her on Thursday night just before the story brokerottenborough said:Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
Told that Hancock has left his wife for Gina Coladangelo. Friends of the former Health Secretary say his relationship with Gina is 'recent but serious'.
Yeh, right. Recent my arse as Jim Royle would say.1 -
Dominic Cummings
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So Carrie appoints Saj! NB If I hadn't tricked PM into firing Saj, we'd have had a HMT with useless SoS/spads, no furlough scheme, total chaos instead of JOINT 10/11 team which was a big success. Saj = bog standard = chasing headlines + failing = awful for NHS. Need #RegimeChange0 -
How come we can upload photos but not videos onto here?0
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Got confused.
Not that I can imagine it to be an easy conversation to have at the best of times, but "Look, I'm leaving you and am telling you now because it'll be in the media tomorrow so you may want to turn off your phone, and now I have to tell the PM" is probably a real gut punch.Big_G_NorthWales said:
ProbablyDecrepiterJohnL said:
A cynic asks: just after a reporter from the Sun rang for a comment?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He left her on Thursday night just before the story brokerottenborough said:Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
Told that Hancock has left his wife for Gina Coladangelo. Friends of the former Health Secretary say his relationship with Gina is 'recent but serious'.
Yeh, right. Recent my arse as Jim Royle would say.
Why do people still think they'll get away with this?TheScreamingEagles said:Yeah Hancock is done.
Matt Hancock faces an investigation after using a personal email account instead of an official address during the pandemic in a breach of government guidelines.
Since March last year the health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.
It means that the government does not hold records of much of Hancock’s decision-making, including negotiating multi-million pound PPE contracts, setting up the £37 billion Test and Trace programme and overseeing the government’s care homes strategy.
The disclosure of Hancock’s secret account appears in minutes of a meeting between senior officials at the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) in December.
Cabinet Office guidance states that ministers should use official email in order to ensure that there is evidence of important decisions and proper internal scrutiny.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hancock-used-private-email-address-to-do-government-business-nrkrgss2t
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Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.0
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Never cross Carrie...rottenborough said:Dominic Cummings
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So Carrie appoints Saj! NB If I hadn't tricked PM into firing Saj, we'd have had a HMT with useless SoS/spads, no furlough scheme, total chaos instead of JOINT 10/11 team which was a big success. Saj = bog standard = chasing headlines + failing = awful for NHS. Need #RegimeChange
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For starters it was not confirmed that it would not be July 19th, so if it was confirmed that would not be a policy change.contrarian said:
Why would the policy change simply because the person is?Big_G_NorthWales said:
Agreed and his successor needs to confirm freedom on the 19th Julyrottenborough said:Bye. Good riddance. Lying hypocritical twat.
As to why the personnel change might alter things, well, people hold different opinions, and retaining things in context of a high profile hypocritical breach may be politically harder.0 -
"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"rottenborough said:Dominic Cummings
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So Carrie appoints Saj! NB If I hadn't tricked PM into firing Saj, we'd have had a HMT with useless SoS/spads, no furlough scheme, total chaos instead of JOINT 10/11 team which was a big success. Saj = bog standard = chasing headlines + failing = awful for NHS. Need #RegimeChange1 -
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.8 -
Hmm.
I actually want Austria to win this, despite my bets on Italy1 -
Creaming Eagles?TheScreamingEagles said:
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.5 -
Genuinely surprised. Boris apologised for sticking with Cummings over Javid as Chancellor?TheScreamingEagles said:Javid the new Health Secretary.
CALLED IT.
Legendary modesty klaxon time.0 -
In my first year, I was one of only six students to pass a surprise physiology test, despite mis-spelling physiology.TheScreamingEagles said:
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.0 -
That would have been blocked by our anti-porn filters.rottenborough said:
Creaming Eagles?TheScreamingEagles said:
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.0 -
There's a reason why the Covid punishment beating rules cover school proms...Foxy said:
Never cross Carrie...rottenborough said:Dominic Cummings
@Dominic2306
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So Carrie appoints Saj! NB If I hadn't tricked PM into firing Saj, we'd have had a HMT with useless SoS/spads, no furlough scheme, total chaos instead of JOINT 10/11 team which was a big success. Saj = bog standard = chasing headlines + failing = awful for NHS. Need #RegimeChange0 -
Rather uninspiring, this Italy side in the second half2
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Dunno. These people are suppose to have had the finest education this country can provide.kle4 said:Got confused.
Not that I can imagine it to be an easy conversation to have at the best of times, but "Look, I'm leaving you and am telling you now because it'll be in the media tomorrow so you may want to turn off your phone, and now I have to tell the PM" is probably a real gut punch.Big_G_NorthWales said:
ProbablyDecrepiterJohnL said:
A cynic asks: just after a reporter from the Sun rang for a comment?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He left her on Thursday night just before the story brokerottenborough said:Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
Told that Hancock has left his wife for Gina Coladangelo. Friends of the former Health Secretary say his relationship with Gina is 'recent but serious'.
Yeh, right. Recent my arse as Jim Royle would say.
Why do people still think they'll get away with this?TheScreamingEagles said:Yeah Hancock is done.
Matt Hancock faces an investigation after using a personal email account instead of an official address during the pandemic in a breach of government guidelines.
Since March last year the health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.
It means that the government does not hold records of much of Hancock’s decision-making, including negotiating multi-million pound PPE contracts, setting up the £37 billion Test and Trace programme and overseeing the government’s care homes strategy.
The disclosure of Hancock’s secret account appears in minutes of a meeting between senior officials at the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) in December.
Cabinet Office guidance states that ministers should use official email in order to ensure that there is evidence of important decisions and proper internal scrutiny.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hancock-used-private-email-address-to-do-government-business-nrkrgss2t0 -
Presumably the same reason why the display of tweets was disabled - to prevent threads from taking forever to load on less powerful devices.isam said:How come we can upload photos but not videos onto here?
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Maybe if he spent less time in post taking notes for inevitable tell all reveals, and less time 'tricking' someone he is supposed to be advising, more people would listen to him when he makes a good point?williamglenn said:Dominic Cummings isn't happy about the appointment of Sajid Javid.
@Dominic2306
So Carrie appoints Saj! NB If I hadn't tricked PM into firing Saj, we'd have had a HMT with useless SoS/spads, no furlough scheme, total chaos instead of JOINT 10/11 team which was a big success. Saj = bog standard = chasing headlines + failing = awful for NHS. Need #RegimeChange
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1408866176323706891
I feel like he spends his time yelling 'Why won't anyone listen to me?' only to be told 'It's the yelling'.2 -
Revealed: how a whistleblower plotted with lockdown sceptics to bring down Hancock https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1408885446424268801/photo/10
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Italy must be deflated by this performance. Maybe Austria will qualify.0
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Ah, someone we were assured by others and themselves was super smart even as their actions suggested otherwise.RochdalePioneers said:I have figured out who Cummings has decided to emulate:
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But its not just this country. Politicians constantly think they are so smart that they will get around those silly rules about government business being done on government accounts. You get away with it for awhile, but you know it will get caught.rottenborough said:
Dunno. These people are suppose to have had the finest education this country can provide.kle4 said:Got confused.
Not that I can imagine it to be an easy conversation to have at the best of times, but "Look, I'm leaving you and am telling you now because it'll be in the media tomorrow so you may want to turn off your phone, and now I have to tell the PM" is probably a real gut punch.Big_G_NorthWales said:
ProbablyDecrepiterJohnL said:
A cynic asks: just after a reporter from the Sun rang for a comment?Big_G_NorthWales said:
He left her on Thursday night just before the story brokerottenborough said:Beth Rigby
@BethRigby
Told that Hancock has left his wife for Gina Coladangelo. Friends of the former Health Secretary say his relationship with Gina is 'recent but serious'.
Yeh, right. Recent my arse as Jim Royle would say.
Why do people still think they'll get away with this?TheScreamingEagles said:Yeah Hancock is done.
Matt Hancock faces an investigation after using a personal email account instead of an official address during the pandemic in a breach of government guidelines.
Since March last year the health secretary has routinely used a private account to conduct government business, concealing information from his own officials and potentially the public, according to documents obtained by The Sunday Times.
It means that the government does not hold records of much of Hancock’s decision-making, including negotiating multi-million pound PPE contracts, setting up the £37 billion Test and Trace programme and overseeing the government’s care homes strategy.
The disclosure of Hancock’s secret account appears in minutes of a meeting between senior officials at the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) in December.
Cabinet Office guidance states that ministers should use official email in order to ensure that there is evidence of important decisions and proper internal scrutiny.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hancock-used-private-email-address-to-do-government-business-nrkrgss2t
And I'm pretty sure in this country at least doing official business on personal accounts won't prevent the need to disclose it if demanded.2 -
Defeated in battle, then blown up by their own ultimate weapon.kle4 said:
Ah, someone we were assured by others and themselves was super smart even as their actions suggested otherwise.RochdalePioneers said:I have figured out who Cummings has decided to emulate:
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It will, invariably, always be on the first page.TheScreamingEagles said:
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.
My problem is repeatedly leaving out 'not' in sentences, which is a pretty critical omission.1 -
Golly, just checked the football.
Caporetto or Vittorio Veneto?0 -
Leaving out words is a huge problem for me.kle4 said:
It is, invariably, always be on the first page.TheScreamingEagles said:
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.
My problem is repeatedly leaving out 'not' in sentences, which is a pretty critical omission.
It is why I start dictating/using voice to text software.
Although that leads to more comedy thanks to my Yorkshire accent.0 -
Isonzo battles methinks.Theuniondivvie said:Golly, just checked the football.
Caporetto or Vittorio Veneto?0 -
Will it? I'm aware of her, and her name has cropped up to a greater degree than most past people who would have been considered so more will be aware of her too, but not sure how much appointments resonate.Scott_xP said:Will @sajidjavid want to appoint @didoharding to head @nhs? Saying no would be an early win with the public.
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It’s looking like extra time.
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The Welsh really are ill mannered oafs.
Gareth Bale walks out of interview when asked about Wales future
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/26/gareth-bale-walks-out-of-interview-when-asked-about-wales-future0 -
Feeble from Italy0
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Didn’t want to say independence publicly obvs.TheScreamingEagles said:The Welsh really are ill mannered oafs.
Gareth Bale walks out of interview when asked about Wales future
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/26/gareth-bale-walks-out-of-interview-when-asked-about-wales-future1 -
Way off topic.
A few months ago I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends on all film and drama production in a year.0 -
Julia Hartley-Brewer
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The appointment of
@sajidjavid
as the new Health Secretary is good news for those who want an end to lockdowns. He has consistently spoken out about the harms caused by lockdowns and called for cost/benefit analysis of the policy. Fingers crossedCrossed fingers2 -
What could they possibly spend it all on? Sounds wasteful.glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends on all film and drama production in a year.0 -
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He saw how quickly Sir Andy Murray's career went downhill since he backed Scottish independence.Theuniondivvie said:
Didn’t want to say independence publicly obvs,TheScreamingEagles said:The Welsh really are ill mannered oafs.
Gareth Bale walks out of interview when asked about Wales future
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/jun/26/gareth-bale-walks-out-of-interview-when-asked-about-wales-future
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Won’t that just be The Silmarillion?glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends all film and drama production in a year.
Just hope it’s not Peter Jackson style, flabbed-out Hobbit shite, though I fear the worst.0 -
Isn’t this the series where the Tolkien estate won’t let them use any material from the actual The Lord of the Rings novel?rottenborough said:
What could they possibly spend it all on? Sounds wasteful.glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends on all film and drama production in a year.0 -
Thanks.ydoethur said:
The Special Adviser case:gealbhan said:
What?ydoethur said:
Glad to see he’s not bitter about having to admit he threatened an employee, exceeded his authority, stole a phone and completely failed in his bid to install a set of similarly talentless losers at the Treasury by stealth.TheScreamingEagles said:Dom tweets
So Carrie appoints Saj! NB If I hadn't tricked PM into firing Saj, we'd have had a HMT with useless SoS/spads, no furlough scheme, total chaos instead of JOINT 10/11 team which was a big success. Saj = bog standard = chasing headlines + failing = awful for NHS. Need #RegimeChange
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1408866176323706891
A dangerous man, still. The sooner somebody nails him for one of his many breaches of the law, the better.
I thought I have been paying attention, but what’s all that you said?
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/sajid-javid-treasury-adviser-pay-out-6318098
He forced her to hand over her personal phone - which is theft. And then threatened her with physical violence if she didn’t leave her job - which was both making threats and exceeding his authority, as only the PM can remove SPADs. About eight months ago, they had to admit all this and pay up a huge sum to dodge an employment tribunal.
Then, he told Javid that he wanted to appoint all his SPADs in a bid to bring the Treasury under his personal control. He assumed Javid would take it to remain Chancellor, especially as the budget was only a few days away. Javid refused and walked out. So he was very publicly branded as having led a power grab and his control over Whitehall actually weakened.
What he’s doing now is trying to spin these two major reverses into master plans. Psychological flaw that means he can’t ever admit to having been wrong. Just as he retcons his blogposts.
What they really show is he’s pompous, arrogant, reckless and not very bright.
But everyone in education knew that already.
Sure I have seen her on the telly, she was nice and spoke very sensibly
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Surely that was handball?
Or do I need a visit to Specsavers?0 -
This is a bit of a worry if the idea that this was in part a political hit to force the lifting of restrictions. johnson might not like the idea he's been bounced and opt for an extension (especially if polling is still favourable on the back of rising case numbers) as a massive 'feck you'. So it could backfire, even if ultimately it was Hancock's fault.Scott_xP said:Revealed: how a whistleblower plotted with lockdown sceptics to bring down Hancock https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1408885446424268801/photo/1
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I was a beta tester for the first generation of Kurzweil dictation software. It came up with many hilarities, but changing 'chemical weapons' to 'genital weapons' in a report to the UN Security Council was the best. Shame I caught it before it was printed.TheScreamingEagles said:
Leaving out words is a huge problem for me.kle4 said:
It is, invariably, always be on the first page.TheScreamingEagles said:
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.
My problem is repeatedly leaving out 'not' in sentences, which is a pretty critical omission.
It is why I start dictating/using voice to text software.
Although that leads to more comedy thanks to my Yorkshire accent.1 -
The Second Age.Theuniondivvie said:
Won’t that just be The Silmarillion?glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends all film and drama production in a year.
Just hope it’s not Peter Jackson style, flabbed-out Hobbit shite, though I fear the worst.0 -
The Silmarrilion is quite possibly the worst book that I have ever finished.Theuniondivvie said:
Won’t that just be The Silmarillion?glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends all film and drama production in a year.
Just hope it’s not Peter Jackson style, flabbed-out Hobbit shite, though I fear the worst.0 -
I really really hope that Hancock going means the end of any chance of this awful woman getting the NHS job. She was one of his best buddies too.Scott_xP said:Will @sajidjavid want to appoint @didoharding to head @nhs? Saying no would be an early win with the public.
https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/14088792880620380181 -
So you've never read a book by Jeffrey Archer?Foxy said:
The Silmarrilion is quite possibly the worst book that I have ever finished.Theuniondivvie said:
Won’t that just be The Silmarillion?glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends all film and drama production in a year.
Just hope it’s not Peter Jackson style, flabbed-out Hobbit shite, though I fear the worst.0 -
Ray Kurzweil was ( and is ? ) one of the great pioneers of electronic sound and synthesizers, like Peter Zinovieff, who died today, and taught the Beatles to use some of the first synthesizers. Ray Kurzweil was the equivalent genius inventor for the 1980s, creating digital orchestras for the first time, and like no-one ever had before.TimT said:
I was a beta tester for the first generation of Kurzweil dictation software. It came up with many hilarities, but changing 'chemical weapons' to 'genital weapons' in a report to the UN Security Council was the best. Shame I caught it before it was printed.TheScreamingEagles said:
Leaving out words is a huge problem for me.kle4 said:
It is, invariably, always be on the first page.TheScreamingEagles said:
I once wrote a 20,000 word report, meticulously checked it for typos, had my staff do the same.kle4 said:Always make sure your public resignation letter has no typos or other errors.
30 seconds after it was uploaded on the intranet I noticed a huge typo, I had spelt my name wrong.
My problem is repeatedly leaving out 'not' in sentences, which is a pretty critical omission.
It is why I start dictating/using voice to text software.
Although that leads to more comedy thanks to my Yorkshire accent.0 -
I have resisted that temptation.TheScreamingEagles said:
So you've never read a book by Jeffrey Archer?Foxy said:
The Silmarrilion is quite possibly the worst book that I have ever finished.Theuniondivvie said:
Won’t that just be The Silmarillion?glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends all film and drama production in a year.
Just hope it’s not Peter Jackson style, flabbed-out Hobbit shite, though I fear the worst.0 -
I've no idea. Amazon are seemingly going to spend at least as much as James Cameron is spending to make 4 film sequels to Avatar.rottenborough said:
What could they possibly spend it all on? Sounds wasteful.glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends on all film and drama production in a year.0 -
Not so sure entirely.ydoethur said:
The Special Adviser case:gealbhan said:
What?ydoethur said:
Glad to see he’s not bitter about having to admit he threatened an employee, exceeded his authority, stole a phone and completely failed in his bid to install a set of similarly talentless losers at the Treasury by stealth.TheScreamingEagles said:Dom tweets
So Carrie appoints Saj! NB If I hadn't tricked PM into firing Saj, we'd have had a HMT with useless SoS/spads, no furlough scheme, total chaos instead of JOINT 10/11 team which was a big success. Saj = bog standard = chasing headlines + failing = awful for NHS. Need #RegimeChange
https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1408866176323706891
A dangerous man, still. The sooner somebody nails him for one of his many breaches of the law, the better.
I thought I have been paying attention, but what’s all that you said?
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit-news/westminster-news/sajid-javid-treasury-adviser-pay-out-6318098
He forced her to hand over her personal phone - which is theft. And then threatened her with physical violence if she didn’t leave her job - which was both making threats and exceeding his authority, as only the PM can remove SPADs. About eight months ago, they had to admit all this and pay up a huge sum to dodge an employment tribunal.
Then, he told Javid that he wanted to appoint all his SPADs in a bid to bring the Treasury under his personal control. He assumed Javid would take it to remain Chancellor, especially as the budget was only a few days away. Javid refused and walked out. So he was very publicly branded as having led a power grab and his control over Whitehall actually weakened.
What he’s doing now is trying to spin these two major reverses into master plans. Psychological flaw that means he can’t ever admit to having been wrong. Just as he retcons his blogposts.
What they really show is he’s pompous, arrogant, reckless and not very bright.
But everyone in education knew that already.
That doesn't seem to mention personal phones.
And it is only theft if the intention is not to return it.
An I guess the Dom experience says how cautious they would be wise to be with phones.0 -
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Lapped it up as a 14 year old, but yep, I don’t think I’ll revisit. I feel I will have to do LOTR before the end of Divvie though.Foxy said:
The Silmarrilion is quite possibly the worst book that I have ever finished.Theuniondivvie said:
Won’t that just be The Silmarillion?glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends all film and drama production in a year.
Just hope it’s not Peter Jackson style, flabbed-out Hobbit shite, though I fear the worst.0 -
Good riddance to Hancock.
Trying to tell everyone that they can't live their own lives, months after deaths stopped - only to be breaking the rules himself. It was ridiculous.8 -
One would've thought it likely. One consequence of Johnson having put Sajid Javid back into bat again is that, presumably, his hand will be strengthened significantly the second time around?Cyclefree said:
I really really hope that Hancock going means the end of any chance of this awful woman getting the NHS job. She was one of his best buddies too.Scott_xP said:Will @sajidjavid want to appoint @didoharding to head @nhs? Saying no would be an early win with the public.
https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/1408879288062038018
Even if the PM still looks upon Dido Harding sympathetically, Javid will be in a strong position to reject her regardless. After all, even Johnson will struggle to wibble his way out of losing the same senior cabinet minister twice.0 -
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Completely O/T. We seem to get some fantastic sunsets over London recently. Or maybe they were always there i just wasn't in a position to see them.2
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Matt Finished would be the death of the Telegraph though.borisatsun said:
"Matt Finished" is quite a good headline though..ydoethur said:
Unfortunate juxtaposition with the Diana thing as well...DecrepiterJohnL said:Scott_xP said:THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.2 -
Special effects rather than a decent script and characterisation, that is what happens happens to all these bloated franchises.glw said:
I've no idea. Amazon are seemingly going to spend at least as much as James Cameron is spending to make 4 film sequels to Avatar.rottenborough said:
What could they possibly spend it all on? Sounds wasteful.glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends on all film and drama production in a year.0 -
So I generally support whistleblowing, ie people with privileged access to secret information publicizing it to reveal wrongdoing. However the *security camera* aspect of this thing seems kind of outrageous to me. I can't quite explain why watching and leaking the security camera footage is bad, but if it had been, say, a memo that the cleaner found and leaked that would have been good.
Does anyone have the same intuition, or is it just me? If anyone else has it, can anyone explain the difference?1 -
Why was she so bad? genuine question, I thought she organised the testing, and we have had a lot of testing, is that not good? has she done/not done other things I'm not aware off?Cyclefree said:
I really really hope that Hancock going means the end of any chance of this awful woman getting the NHS job. She was one of his best buddies too.Scott_xP said:Will @sajidjavid want to appoint @didoharding to head @nhs? Saying no would be an early win with the public.
https://twitter.com/adamboultonSKY/status/14088792880620380180 -
I’d like to know if money has changed hands. Did the whistleblower really need to go via The Sun?edmundintokyo said:So I generally support whistleblowing, which by definition is people with privileged access to secret information revealing wrongdoing. However the *security camera* aspect of this thing seems kind of outrageous to me. I can't quite explain why watching and leaking the security camera footage is bad, but if it had been, say, a memo that the cleaner found and leaked that would have been fine.
Does anyone have the same intuition, or is it just me? If anyone else has it, can anyone explain the difference?
Mind you, I don’t care all that much to be honest.0 -
Austria 160/1 to qualify.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/en/football/uefa-euro-2020/italy-v-austria-betting-306371730 -
Unconvincing performance by Italy, tbh.
I’m feeling more confident about England’s chances.
And Denmark’s
And Holland’s
I’ve bet accordingly1 -
Disagree about the cleaner. Cleaners, and other auxiliary staff should not be leaking things that they find without real knowledge of what it is they are leaking.edmundintokyo said:So I generally support whistleblowing, which by definition is people with privileged access to secret information revealing wrongdoing. However the *security camera* aspect of this thing seems kind of outrageous to me. I can't quite explain why watching and leaking the security camera footage is bad, but if it had been, say, a memo that the cleaner found and leaked that would have been good.
Does anyone have the same intuition, or is it just me? If anyone else has it, can anyone explain the difference?
basically any whistleblower should have suffivient knowldge of what they are leaking to be able to justify themselves if questioned.0 -
But are we sure he is Matt Vinally Finished?Philip_Thompson said:
Matt Finished would be the death of the Telegraph though.borisatsun said:
"Matt Finished" is quite a good headline though..ydoethur said:
Unfortunate juxtaposition with the Diana thing as well...DecrepiterJohnL said:Scott_xP said:THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.0 -
He has been walking on eggshell for some time. Sooner or later he would brush with disaster.MarqueeMark said:
But are we sure he is Matt Vinally Finished?Philip_Thompson said:
Matt Finished would be the death of the Telegraph though.borisatsun said:
"Matt Finished" is quite a good headline though..ydoethur said:
Unfortunate juxtaposition with the Diana thing as well...DecrepiterJohnL said:Scott_xP said:THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.0 -
I've been worried that they have to be so tightly restricted (Lord of the Rings is good for the story and characters, the lore is the icing on top - something which is based on just lore is problematic) - I loved the movies, I like the books, but this really could be one hell of a flop.rottenborough said:
What could they possibly spend it all on? Sounds wasteful.glw said:Way off topic.
A few month I mentioned Amazon spending $1 billion making 5 seasons of their Lord of the Rings TV series.
Apparently Amazon are now planning to spend $465 million for the first season alone.glw said:It is set long before all the Hobbit/LotR stuff, and there are apparently very heavy restrictions upon the producers from the Tolkien estate about what they can use and about sticking to the facts of Tolkien's work rather than any "rebooting". The rights alone have cost Amazon $250 million dollars, and they are planning on spending somewhere in the region of $1 billion across 5 seasons.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/amazons-lord-of-the-rings-cost-465-million-one-season-4167791/
That's on a par with what the BBC spends on all film and drama production in a year.0 -
Get your two coats.....Foxy said:
He has been walking on eggshell for some time. Sooner or later he would brush with disaster.MarqueeMark said:
But are we sure he is Matt Vinally Finished?Philip_Thompson said:
Matt Finished would be the death of the Telegraph though.borisatsun said:
"Matt Finished" is quite a good headline though..ydoethur said:
Unfortunate juxtaposition with the Diana thing as well...DecrepiterJohnL said:Scott_xP said:THE SUN ON SUNDAY: Matt Finished #TomorrowsPapersToday https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1408877217703137287/photo/1
The Sun's gloating, while understandable, seems a bit off-key given the innocent (and even the guilty) lives involved in the break-up of two marriages.
It would not surprise me if the front page has been toned down by the final edition.0 -
Want to add that putting a banker and son of an immigrant in another top department is something I can relate to. That makes the Treasury, DoH, Home Office and Business all headed up by children of immigrants.2
