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MaxPB said:

Leon said:

Bloody Brexit

"Unicorn nest: UK hits milestone of 100 $1bn tech companies, more than rest of Europe combined"

https://www.cityam.com/unicorn-nest-uk-hits-milestone-of-100-1bn-tech-companies-more-than-rest-of-europe-combined/?utm_content=buffer746fte&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

This also doesn't include companies which are functionally based in the UK but have the HQ in Silicon Valley for investor purposes, the number will be significantly larger when including these companies.

Leon said:

"We should be at well over 3,000 hospitalisations a day by now, according to SAGE (with the less transmissible UK variant). Actual figure for England: 178."

https://twitter.com/cjsnowdon/status/1406995596284727298?s=20

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

DecrepiterJohnL said:

Leon said:

Theuniondivvie said:

TOPPING said:

Theuniondivvie said:

TOPPING said:

IshmaelZ said:

tlg86 said:

MaxPB said:

MikeL said:

Can anyone explain why Excess Deaths have been negative for the last 14 weeks?

OK, we know Covid deaths have been very, very low.

But I thought it was widely accepted that many people with other medical problems haven't been to see their GP or gone to hospital as much as usual over the last 15 months.

Surely the above should have led to lots of illness not being diagnosed and also known illnesses progressing more rapidly? Which should now be feeding through into Excess Deaths?

Link (select page 2/9 for graph):

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrIjoiYmUwNmFhMjYtNGZhYS00NDk2LWFlMTAtOTg0OGNhNmFiNGM0IiwidCI6ImVlNGUxNDk5LTRhMzUtNGIyZS1hZDQ3LTVmM2NmOWRlODY2NiIsImMiOjh9

The obvious answer is that COVID deaths in 2020 for a large number of people were advanced by less than a year meaning the pool of people in death's waiting room is much smaller this year.

I'm not going to attempt to do the maths, but it would have to spread through much of the population to have got to those who were going to die anyway. There might be a bias in that it's gone through some care homes and hospitals, but I suspect the -47,000 non-COVID excess deaths is driven by some people being dead from COVID and also a reduction in other viruses spreading through the population.

Winter 2021-22 will be tough for the NHS, I think.

I can't help advocating one final heave this winter and into next spring to get us over the line - masks, rule of six, we all know the drill by now

You know it makes sense.

Are you being serious? Next spring? Two years of this. Do you have any idea what effect the constant hum of restrictions might have on children? A six-yr old will have spent 25% of their lives under some kind of restrictions. Wow.

Wait till you hear what 6 year olds in 1945 had gone through.

You remind me of those Leavers saying well at least it wasn't as bad as the English Civil War/WWII/rationing to justify Brexit.

You remind me of all those righties who didn't give a fcuk about antisemitism for years until they realised it was a stick with which to beat lefties and ensure the hegemony of their crook led party.

This might be true, except that it isn't, it is shite

There has been a steep rise in anti-Semitism in the last ten years, in the UK it has nearly all come from Muslims, and from their allies on the hard left, eg the Corbynite wing of Labour. Yes the right is now using it as a stick to thwack Labour, but that doesn't mean the phenomenon of left-wing Jew-hatred is contrived. It is not. It is real

Occasionally I wonder if it is my fault that the phrase jew hate became far more common after I'd mused on here that antisemitism might not be widely understood.

ETA it's not so much Corbynistas as the ex-SWP trots that Kinnock had thrown out and Ed Miliband had let back in.

Cicero said:

MaxPB said:

Leon said:

Bloody Brexit

"Unicorn nest: UK hits milestone of 100 $1bn tech companies, more than rest of Europe combined"

https://www.cityam.com/unicorn-nest-uk-hits-milestone-of-100-1bn-tech-companies-more-than-rest-of-europe-combined/?utm_content=buffer746fte&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

This also doesn't include companies which are functionally based in the UK but have the HQ in Silicon Valley for investor purposes, the number will be significantly larger when including these companies.

I note that the Uk has claimed Skype, Bolt, Wise, Verriff, Revolut, Cybernetica, and several other unicorms which are legally incorporated in London but functionally run from elsewhere, so it cuts both ways.

eek said:

Cicero said:

MaxPB said:

Leon said:

Bloody Brexit

"Unicorn nest: UK hits milestone of 100 $1bn tech companies, more than rest of Europe combined"

https://www.cityam.com/unicorn-nest-uk-hits-milestone-of-100-1bn-tech-companies-more-than-rest-of-europe-combined/?utm_content=buffer746fte&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

This also doesn't include companies which are functionally based in the UK but have the HQ in Silicon Valley for investor purposes, the number will be significantly larger when including these companies.

I note that the Uk has claimed Skype, Bolt, Wise, Verriff, Revolut, Cybernetica, and several other unicorms which are legally incorporated in London but functionally run from elsewhere, so it cuts both ways.

Unless I've missed something both Wise and Revolut are based in London.

FF43 said:

williamglenn said:

This seems an odd line for Labour to take given the demographics of their support base:

https://twitter.com/uklabour/status/1406947513857462276

Actually I think this might be a rare moment of genius on the part of Labour. An outfit that puts out an advertisement like that is hardly going to be a Marxist threat.

Floater said:

GIN1138 said:

williamglenn said:

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film shown post-Brexit

Exclusive: number of UK productions seen as ‘disproportionate’ and threat to Europe’s cultural diversity

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

With streaming services and online platforms ever expanding how can they possibly regulate this?

Since when did the EU pay attention to reality?

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

glw said:

Floater said:

GIN1138 said:

williamglenn said:

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film shown post-Brexit

Exclusive: number of UK productions seen as ‘disproportionate’ and threat to Europe’s cultural diversity

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

With streaming services and online platforms ever expanding how can they possibly regulate this?

Since when did the EU pay attention to reality?

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to find that there are some people who would advocate an EU version of the Great Firewall.

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

glw said:

tlg86 said:

williamglenn said:

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film shown post-Brexit

Exclusive: number of UK productions seen as ‘disproportionate’ and threat to Europe’s cultural diversity

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

Under the EU’s audiovisual media services directive, a majority of airtime must be given to such European content on terrestrial television and it must make up at least 30% of the number of titles on video on demand (VOD) platforms such as Netflix and Amazon.

Countries such as France have gone further, setting a 60% quota for European works on VOD and demanding 15% of the turnover of the platforms is spent in production of European audiovisual and cinematographic works.

I had no idea that the EU and France dictated what their people can and can't watch!

It's a bonkers policy, because you can't make people watch the rubbish that is approved, people can watch the channel of their choosing, or more likely stream the shows they want. It just means that channels fill their schedule with box ticking pap, and buy a load of cheap rubbish shows and films to fill their servers, and in the end people will still watch what they want.

StuartDickson said:

RobD said:

StuartDickson said:

glw said:

tlg86 said:

williamglenn said:

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film shown post-Brexit

Exclusive: number of UK productions seen as ‘disproportionate’ and threat to Europe’s cultural diversity

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

Under the EU’s audiovisual media services directive, a majority of airtime must be given to such European content on terrestrial television and it must make up at least 30% of the number of titles on video on demand (VOD) platforms such as Netflix and Amazon.

Countries such as France have gone further, setting a 60% quota for European works on VOD and demanding 15% of the turnover of the platforms is spent in production of European audiovisual and cinematographic works.

I had no idea that the EU and France dictated what their people can and can't watch!

It's a bonkers policy, because you can't make people watch the rubbish that is approved, people can watch the channel of their choosing, or more likely stream the shows they want. It just means that channels fill their schedule with box ticking pap, and buy a load of cheap rubbish shows and films to fill their servers, and in the end people will still watch what they want.

BBC Scotchland = bonkers policy

I don't think there is a quota saying a certain fraction of television broadcast there has to be from south of the border.

Never seen 99% described as a fraction before.

Philip_Thompson said:

rottenborough said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Aaron Bastani
@AaronBastani
·
1h
Scotland, blue collar heartlands in England, Muslims, graduates, the young, and now renters.

The history of the Labour party is taking for granted those who already vote for you. We need to build more homes.

I agree with Bastani.

I feel dirty.

kinabalu said:

sarissa said:

StuartDickson said:

AnExileinD4 said:

Given the number of Scottish politics enthusiasts here, if Sturgeon were run over by a tram tomorrow, who would be the leading contenders to replace her? Is it certain to be a MSP and not an MP?

Best prices - Next First Minister

Angus Robertson MSP 7/2
John Swinney MSP 6/1
Kate Forbes MSP 9/1
Joanna Cherry QC MP 12/1
Anas Sarwar MSP (Lab) 12/1
Humza Yousaf MSP 12/1
Keith Brown MSP 16/1
Douglas Ross MP MSP (Con) 18/1

Robertson for sure - but I shudder to think what the Scottish Green Party would demand for their support.

Some green policies?

rottenborough said:

Interesting video from Owen Jones up in Batley. A lot of analysis of the Palestine question.

Labour will come third says Galloway. "I'll eat my hat if they don't"

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1406961925557260292

kinabalu said:

Anabobazina said:

It would impolite in the extreme to invite Scarlett Johansson to a dinner party without any female company. It would place her in a very awkward position when she arrives and discovers she is the only woman in attendance.

You're absolutely right. I'm going to phone her and tell her she can't come.

felix said:

Redfield & Wilton Strategies
@RedfieldWilton
·
26s
Westminster Voting Intention (21 June):

Conservative 44% (–)
Labour 33% (-1)
Liberal Democrat 10% (+1)
Scottish National Party 4% (–)
Green 4% (-1)
Reform UK 3% (+1)
Other: 3% (+2)

Changes +/- 13 June

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

Anabobazina said:

According to buzz on twitter, the Sage model is out by order(s) of magnitude on its 21 June forecast. Is this correct?

rcs1000 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

It's not just due to free movement: the birth rate also increased to a post 1978 high, and people lived longer.

Philip_Thompson said:

FF43 said:

glw said:

FF43 said:

Whatever the merits of the policy from an EU perspective (doubtful I suspect), UK production will move from being in quota - maybe relatively watchable compared with other EU in quota production - to competing for limited slots with other out of quota production from America etc that may be more marketable

What is a limited slot on a streaming service? TV is no longer constrained by broadcasting. Direct broadcast satellites and free-to-air television are technological dead-ends which are going to go into quite rapid declince over this decade. Essentially all TV viewing will be streaming* by the time we reach the 2030s, at which point quotas are going to look damn silly unless you plan on forcing viewers to watch shows.

* Streaming already is "TV" for most young people.

On broadcast TV you need to fill each hour with something. Netflix trims its out of quota catalogue in places where they have such things (I think South Africa has a similar policy), so people only get to see the most popular shows.

Edit Checked the stats. TV revenues in Europe are €100 billion a year. Streaming services €14 billion. The first is still more valuable, albeit not growing much.

Unsurprising in the UK for instance where the TV tax alone is mandatory for almost every household and costs more than what Netflix costs.

Netflix is much more value for money though. So is Disney.

FrancisUrquhart said:

Philip_Thompson said:

rottenborough said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Aaron Bastani
@AaronBastani
·
1h
Scotland, blue collar heartlands in England, Muslims, graduates, the young, and now renters.

The history of the Labour party is taking for granted those who already vote for you. We need to build more homes.

I agree with Bastani.

I feel dirty.

You must now go and watch an hour of GB News to bring back some balance to your aura...

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

ExiledInScotland said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Philip_Thompson said:

rottenborough said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Aaron Bastani
@AaronBastani
·
1h
Scotland, blue collar heartlands in England, Muslims, graduates, the young, and now renters.

The history of the Labour party is taking for granted those who already vote for you. We need to build more homes.

I agree with Bastani.

I feel dirty.

You must now go and watch an hour of GB News to bring back some balance to your aura...

I wish GB News had gone retro 70's for their stage sets. Or had a look like the Time Variance Authority...

FF43 said:

rpjs said:

GIN1138 said:

williamglenn said:

EU prepares to cut amount of British TV and film shown post-Brexit

Exclusive: number of UK productions seen as ‘disproportionate’ and threat to Europe’s cultural diversity

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/21/eu-prepares-cut-amount-british-tv-film-shown-brexit

With streaming services and online platforms ever expanding how can they possibly regulate this?

Easy. All streaming media has to be licenced, and all such licencing is divided into geographical territories. Streaming media companies can, and do (they have to under their licencing terms) impose geolocation restrictions on what can be consumed where. So it follows that all streaming companies have to have at least a legal presence in the EU/EEA, even if it's just a brass plate on an office in Luxembourg. So the legal restrictions in place in that EU country at least apply. And in practice, you have to multiply that by if not every EU/EEA country but certainly a big chunk of them[1]: there is not yet a pan-EU or pan-EEA licencing regime in place: even before Brexit day you could not use the BBC iPlayer or ITV or Channel 4 streaming services outside the UK.

Similar rules apply to eBooks too, although my understanding of such matters is that there are fewer, larger licencing areas such as the Commonwealth, the US, the rest of Europe etc.

[1] Possibly some of the pre-EC economic groupings such as Benelux had some sort of common licencing markets.

I think this is correct. The EU is somewhat unusual in imposing local content requirements through legislation. Plenty of places achieve the same it through licensing conditions.

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

I don't see 6 million EU immigrants sleeping in cardboard boxes to be honest. But if the EU immigrant, like anyone else, can't afford to live somewhere he should relocate to somewhere he can. (I'm applying a simple, free-market analysis as opposed to your crude, knee-jerk, government-must-act statism.)

Except they can afford it. The developers are prepared to build, they're prepared to pay and landowners are prepared to sell to developers.

The state doesn't need to do anything except butt out and mind its own business rather than telling people what they can and can't do with their money and their land.

You wanted people here, people being here means them building on land. Immigrants are for life and not just for lattes.

Andy_JS said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

We could have a policy of trying to reduce the population of the country by encouraging people to emigrate to Australia, Canada, New Zealand, etc.

Floater said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Latest Westminster voting intention (16-17 June)

Con: 45% (+1 from 9-10 Jun)
Lab: 31% (n/c)
Green: 7% (-2)
Lib Dem: 6% (-1)
SNP: 5% (n/c)
Reform UK: 4% (+2)

I am slightly surprised the continued restrictions not even nudging the figures

Floater said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Latest Westminster voting intention (16-17 June)

Con: 45% (+1 from 9-10 Jun)
Lab: 31% (n/c)
Green: 7% (-2)
Lib Dem: 6% (-1)
SNP: 5% (n/c)
Reform UK: 4% (+2)

I am slightly surprised the continued restrictions not even nudging the figures

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

I don't see 6 million EU immigrants sleeping in cardboard boxes to be honest. But if the EU immigrant, like anyone else, can't afford to live somewhere he should relocate to somewhere he can. (I'm applying a simple, free-market analysis as opposed to your crude, knee-jerk, government-must-act statism.)

Andy_JS said:

moonshine said:

Malmesbury said:

DecrepiterJohnL said:

tlg86 said:

rottenborough said:

tlg86 said:

Just caught the start of Politics Live and it's obvious that the pensions triple lock is a massive elephant trap for Labour and they are going to walk straight into it.

How so?

Well, I think it's obvious that the Tories will not raise pensions in line with wages (6% or something apparently) but will do so in line with inflation. So pensioners will get a rise. The Labour woman on the show (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emma_Lewell-Buck) was saying "manifesto pledge, tax billionaires, etc. etc." and I suspect that's what Labour will say.

I suspect most people will be understanding of the issue and will just see Labour as being incredibly juvenile.

The state pension is £179.60 a week, almost exactly half the minimum wage, so it is not clear that raising it will be electorally disastrous, though tbh I've never quite worked out why so many hate the triple lock as too generous; iirc it only means £10 or so more anyway.

1) Old people tend to vote Tory
2) Therefore all old people are Tories
3) Therefore they are all evil and rich
4) Therefore hating old people is good.

Taken to its conclusion the triple lock will eventually take up the whole uk budget.

I would support getting rid of the triple lock.

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

I don't see 6 million EU immigrants sleeping in cardboard boxes to be honest. But if the EU immigrant, like anyone else, can't afford to live somewhere he should relocate to somewhere he can. (I'm applying a simple, free-market analysis as opposed to your crude, knee-jerk, government-must-act statism.)

Except they can afford it. The developers are prepared to build, they're prepared to pay and landowners are prepared to sell to developers.

The state doesn't need to do anything except butt out and mind its own business rather than telling people what they can and can't do with their money and their land.

You wanted people here, people being here means them building on land. Immigrants are for life and not just for lattes.

So everyone gets a say except the people who live in the area and have to see their environment and way of life obliterated. You're a Stalinist!

Philip_Thompson said:

rcs1000 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

It's not just due to free movement: the birth rate also increased to a post 1978 high, and people lived longer.

Its not just due to free movement but its a major factor. Plus of course the birth rate has increased in part due to a movement of fertile young people to the UK who've then had kids so that feeds in too.

Either way, for @Stark_Dawning to fly the flag for free movement then get outraged that people want to "despoil" his area . . . I think there's a term or two for that.

AnExileinD4 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

rcs1000 said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

Philip_Thompson said:

Stark_Dawning said:

eek said:

ping said:

That labour poster is depressing.

Will we ever build enough homes so that our young people can grow up and have, like, families?

The country is committing a slow suicide.

F£&k the nimbys.

It's all part of the grand levelling up plans.

The only place the young will be able to afford to live is in the Red Wall seats and the jobs will follow once it becomes obvious that the workers no longer exist elsewhere.

The internal adverts for Treasury North focus on the fact you can have a new 4-5 bedroom detached house for less than a 3 bed semi near London.

With a commute time in minutes rather than hours.

Quite right. Why concrete over the rural south with rabbit-warren houses and ring-road DIY stores when there is plenty of cheap accommodation up north. Okay, you probably won't be able to boast at dinner parties about the tripling of your house's value over the last month (which is all these people really care about) but tough... if you want your own place then go where you can afford it; don't despoil everywhere else.

And you have the audacity to have flag symbolising free movement?

Millions are welcome to come here, and serve you a coffee but don't they dare despoil your view.

The EU and EU citizens serving coffee didn't attempt to sweep aside the planning laws and give developers carte blanche. Boris - and it seems most Brexit advocates - are. So what gives? This government is more a threat to my view than free movement ever was.

In the last decade the UK population has increased from 61 million to 67 million. A 10% increase in population in a decade due to free movement.

You may be struggling in your limited mind to connect the dots, but those people need somewhere to live. Funny that!

The developers need carte blanche to fix the mess that regulated housing combined with free movement has disastrously created.

It's not just due to free movement: the birth rate also increased to a post 1978 high, and people lived longer.

Its not just due to free movement but its a major factor. Plus of course the birth rate has increased in part due to a movement of fertile young people to the UK who've then had kids so that feeds in too.

Either way, for @Stark_Dawning to fly the flag for free movement then get outraged that people want to "despoil" his area . . . I think there's a term or two for that.

It's a two word term....

OldKingCole said:

rottenborough said:

Interesting video from Owen Jones up in Batley. A lot of analysis of the Palestine question.

Labour will come third says Galloway. "I'll eat my hat if they don't"

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1406961925557260292

Wasn't the last politician to say that Paddy Ashdown? And he had to!

Anabobazina said:

MaxPB said:

Anabobazina said:

According to buzz on twitter, the Sage model is out by order(s) of magnitude on its 21 June forecast. Is this correct?

Yes, to a completely ridiculous degree. If it wasn't so depressing that these scientists have used these cynical methods of data presentation to push a zero COVID permanent lockdown agenda it would actually be a bit funny as to how far they're out by. It's not as if they can even say that decisions taken have changed inputs because they haven't.

This needs to be scrutinised widely on the national news. And as you say, the difference this time is there has been no further intervention so they are unable to claim that the vastly better numbers are a result of their actions.

Let this be widely scrutinised.

FF43 said:

glw said:

FF43 said:

Whatever the merits of the policy from an EU perspective (doubtful I suspect), UK production will move from being in quota - maybe relatively watchable compared with other EU in quota production - to competing for limited slots with other out of quota production from America etc that may be more marketable

What is a limited slot on a streaming service? TV is no longer constrained by broadcasting. Direct broadcast satellites and free-to-air television are technological dead-ends which are going to go into quite rapid declince over this decade. Essentially all TV viewing will be streaming* by the time we reach the 2030s, at which point quotas are going to look damn silly unless you plan on forcing viewers to watch shows.

* Streaming already is "TV" for most young people.

On broadcast TV you need to fill each hour with something. Netflix trims its out of quota catalogue in places where they have such things (I think South Africa has a similar policy), so people only get to see the most popular shows.

Edit Checked the stats. TV revenues in Europe are €100 billion a year. Streaming services €14 billion. The first is still more valuable, albeit not growing much.