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  • MarkHopkinsMarkHopkins Posts: 5,584


    Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil

    Much more to come on cabinet reshuffle. including one very major, unexpected change.

    Osborne and Cameron switch jobs?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    MikeP said:


    Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil

    Much more to come on cabinet reshuffle. including one very major, unexpected change.

    For Labour's sake I hope it won't be Osborne, Gove or IDS getting sacked.
    What, Osborne, simultaneously the country's most popular politician AND most popular heir-to-a-baronetcy. ;-)
  • David_EvershedDavid_Evershed Posts: 6,506


    Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil

    Much more to come on cabinet reshuffle. including one very major, unexpected change.


    John Major to be Foreign Sec or EU Commisioner?
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,581
    How about Hague and Osborne swap jobs?

    Hague rates very well with the public - would be a good idea I think.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    Assuming it is Hague, I also assume this will be announced at 9.55-10.05 this evening...
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,914

    I get a feeling that this reshuffle will be presented in terms of building the team for the second term. Putting in place people who can spend the next 5 years in place.

    Or at least that is how I would present such a major shift in personnel!

    Or 5 years having to watch from the opposition benches as the two Eds implement their vision.
    For that to be possible, the Eds would have to have a vision. Which if they have got, they are keeping very well hidden.
    Well they can implement something, even if it is without vision. I get the feeling, and perhaps I am harsh on such people, that former SPaD wonks that populate much of the leadership groups of our political parties have, even before becoming MPs, spent so much time obsessed over the business of partisan political squabbling, that they don't have as much time for things like vision. They trust that the party they have served professionally without distraction for so long will come up with the right ideas for the country when they are in power, having a coherent ideology or vision before getting into power just draws attention away from the task of winning. Future them can worry about a vision.

  • Solicitor General also leaving the government. So complete shake-up of the Law Officers

    I'm beginning to worry that Stephen Phillips QC is going to be promoted.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    Solicitor General also leaving the government. So complete shake-up of the Law Officers

    I'm beginning to worry that Stephen Phillips QC is going to be promoted.
    Hopefully it'll be Geoffrey Cox QC
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    edited July 2014
    My phone keeps ringing, Dave - I know you read PB too but I've said no, I don't like red boxes... I prefer pb's yellow ones.

    Stick the FCO job.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    People should use #reshuffle, so all the tweets can be in one place.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    My phone keeps ringings, Dave - I've said no, I don't like red boxes... I prefer pb's yellow ones.

    Stick the FCO job.

    Dave, I take back all those threads and times I've said you're crap.

    You are the modern day Julius Caesar.
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    MikeL said:

    How about Hague and Osborne swap jobs?

    Hague rates very well with the public - would be a good idea I think.

    Andrew Neil tweets that GO is staying COE.

    Hague to The EU ?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    edited July 2014
    @LordAshcroft: Hague has no ambition to lead the Tory Party again so what is left in Govt for him? His stage is now the world's so don't be surprised if..
  • TGOHFTGOHF Posts: 21,633
    @LordAshcroft: Hague has no ambition to lead the Tory Party again so what is left in Govt for him? His stage is now the world's so don't be surprised if...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541

    My phone keeps ringing, Dave - I know you read PB too but I've said no, I don't like red boxes... I prefer pb's yellow ones.

    Stick the FCO job.

    Avery, please photoshop your avatar to have George holding up a yellow box.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    Getting ever more likely I reckon.

    Lord Ashcroft‏@LordAshcroft·2 mins
    Hague has no ambition to lead the Tory Party again so what is left in Govt for him? His stage is now the world's so don't be surprised if...
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,411
    Oh FFSake Its going to happen isn't it - Obvious 25-1 winner was obvious. Jesus ><
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    Woman Foreign Sec? Who could it be if so?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    Just saw a tweet (obviously not based on any rumour or anything) putting Rees Mogg and minister in the same sentence. While I'd quite enjoy that, I don't think it would go down with the general theme of the reshuffle!
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    Pulpstar said:

    Oh FFSake Its going to happen isn't it - Obvious 25-1 winner was obvious. Jesus ><</p>

    Indeed, we remember Hague's speech about Mr. President when Gordon B was the PM, this would all come together nicely if he ended up, not President but not too shabby a role...
  • Hopefully it'll be Geoffrey Cox QC

    They need to appoint both the AG and the SC though.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    RobD said:

    Woman Foreign Sec? Who could it be if so?

    Mad Nad.

    or if we're going for box ticking window dressing

    Priti P.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    BETTING POST

    You can get 11/4 on William Hague NOT to be Foreign Sec until the GE

    http://www.paddypower.com/bet/politics/other-politics/uk-politics?ev_oc_grp_ids=1477610
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,997

    RobD said:

    Woman Foreign Sec? Who could it be if so?

    Mad Nad.

    or if we're going for box ticking window dressing

    Priti P.
    She'd be insufferable!
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 20,972

    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    Bloody hell, looks like Dominic Grieve has been given the heave ho, I'm still fuming at Edward Garnier's axe in 2012

    Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE 50s

    Strange to see Dominic Grieve, attorney general, leaving Cameron office at 6pm looking crestfallen

    Why do you think he went? I'd have thought he was on the same wavelength as Cameron.
    Grieve is in favour of the ECHR, I think the new Tory policy will be to be anti ECHR, and so the new justice and Law Officers team will be proper Euro-sceptics wanting repatriate powers back and enshrine the Supremacy of our laws over European laws.
    If so, 'tis a pity. A government that's bound only by its own conscience is a disaster waiting to happen. Even if they are doing it for the finest of motives, it's still making themselves into tinpot gods. If Parliament is supreme...who stops them when they decide to start hurting people for fun?

    The people stop them. It's called democracy. Who stops the ECHR hurting people for fun?
    Democracy is the method used to select those who wield power. It doesn't stop them using that power to hurt you. Other countries instal a safeguard to stop them going nuts (that's the function of a constitution), but the UK doesn't have one that fits the definition. Outside agencies like the various european and international courts are the only practical constraints that prevent HMG going Taliban. By removing the remaining constraints from the powerful you're building a machine with only one "stop" button that takes five years to activate. This is inherently unwise.

    An example of a machine that was built without proper safeguards in the last 20 years was the Euro, but we seem to be ignoring that lesson. We seem to be governed by the equivalent of cowboy builders, sawing thru a loadbearing wall.

    As for your second question ("Who stops the ECHR hurting people for fun?"), the answer is that the ECHR is a passive agency, not a muscle: it can stop you doing something or it can enable you to do something, but it cannot make somebody hurt you. Governments can.
  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,726

    HUGE rumours about William Hague. Euro Commissioner? HIs majority is humungous and not UKIP territory.

    It ought to be held, but there would he a huge swing to UKIP in a by-election.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    Hopefully it'll be Geoffrey Cox QC

    They need to appoint both the AG and the SC though.
    Has Olly Heald gone too?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Sean_F said:

    HUGE rumours about William Hague. Euro Commissioner? HIs majority is humungous and not UKIP territory.

    It ought to be held, but there would he a huge swing to UKIP in a by-election.
    Hague nearly lost the by-election in 1989
  • saddenedsaddened Posts: 2,245
    MikeP said:


    Andrew Neil ✔ @afneil

    Much more to come on cabinet reshuffle. including one very major, unexpected change.

    For Labour's sake I hope it won't be Osborne, Gove or IDS getting sacked.
    Slightly better, don't give up.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,840
    It is all building up to a 9.55 big announcement - ready to take the 10pm news broadcasts by storm
  • philiphphiliph Posts: 4,704
    edited July 2014

    Hopefully it'll be Geoffrey Cox QC

    They need to appoint both the AG and the SC though.
    Has Olly Heald gone too?
    Not shocked by that, I think he has had a health issue of late, according to local press. No idea what.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,840

    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec

    FCO would suit him better, I think.

  • Sean_FSean_F Posts: 36,726
    viewcode said:

    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    Bloody hell, looks like Dominic Grieve has been given the heave ho, I'm still fuming at Edward Garnier's axe in 2012

    Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE 50s

    Strange to see Dominic Grieve, attorney general, leaving Cameron office at 6pm looking crestfallen

    Why do you think he went? I'd have thought he was on the same wavelength as Cameron.
    Grieve is in favour of the ECHR, I think the new Tory policy will be to be anti ECHR, and so the new justice and Law Officers team will be proper Euro-sceptics wanting repatriate powers back and enshrine the Supremacy of our laws over European laws.
    If so, 'tis a pity. A government that's bound only by its own conscience is a disaster waiting to happen. Even if they are doing it for the finest of motives, it's still making themselves into tinpot gods. If Parliament is supreme...who stops them when they decide to start hurting people for fun?

    The people stop them. It's called democracy. Who stops the ECHR hurting people for fun?
    Democracy is the method used to select those who wield power. It doesn't stop them using that power to hurt you. Other countries instal a safeguard to stop them going nuts (that's the function of a constitution), but the UK doesn't have one that fits the definition. Outside agencies like the various european and international courts are the only practical constraints that prevent HMG going Taliban. By removing the remaining constraints from the powerful you're building a machine with only one "stop" button that takes five years to activate. This is inherently unwise.

    An example of a machine that was built without proper safeguards in the last 20 years was the Euro, but we seem to be ignoring that lesson. We seem to be governed by the equivalent of cowboy builders, sawing thru a loadbearing wall.

    As for your second question ("Who stops the ECHR hurting people for fun?"), the answer is that the ECHR is a passive agency, not a muscle: it can stop you doing something or it can enable you to do something, but it cannot make somebody hurt you. Governments can.
    The UK wasn't Taliban prior to adhering to the ECHR or prior to passing the HRA.

    And, if a Taliban-type government were to come to power, I doubt if they'd take much notice of the ECHR.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,571

    It is all building up to a 9.55 big announcement - ready to take the 10pm news broadcasts by storm

    You Gov EICIPM will not be on the news will it?
  • Has Olly Heald gone too?

    According to @oxfordsimon below.

  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    Has Olly Heald gone too?

    According to @oxfordsimon below.

    Cheers
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,840

    Has Olly Heald gone too?

    According to @oxfordsimon below.

    It is confirmed by a number of sources.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067

    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec

    Would prove 100% that Dave or Ozzie do read PB and have listened to OGH and his ever-so subtle hints re Gove at Education .....
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541

    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec

    May to FS?
  • PulpstarPulpstar Posts: 77,411
    Oh Hague can go now.

    Fuck off and don't let the door hit you on the way out - nothing to do with @TSE's tip whatsoever...
  • CarolaCarola Posts: 1,805

    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec

    Where?
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,997
    Sean_F said:

    HUGE rumours about William Hague. Euro Commissioner? HIs majority is humungous and not UKIP territory.

    It ought to be held, but there would he a huge swing to UKIP in a by-election.
    It was damn near lost when Hague won it in 1989.
    Conservative William Hague 19,543
    Social Democrat Mike Potter 16,909
    Social and Liberal Democrats Barbara Pearce 11,589

    If the Social Democrats and what turned out to be the Lib Dems could have got their act together William Hague would have to wait until the next General Election.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Jane Merrick ‏@janemerrick23 7m

    If you put May in Foreign, you could then put Gove at Home Office. Too big a power/chum to not want one of the top 3 #nightofthelongdives

    Greg Callus ‏@Greg_Callus 13m

    Is there really any question that if Hague retires, Gove will become Foreign Sec? I thought that was a given?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    RobD said:

    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec

    May to FS?
    Yes
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150

    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec

    Would prove 100% that Dave or Ozzie do read PB and have listened to OGH and his ever-so subtle hints re Gove at Education .....
    If you are of the opinion that Gove is a massive vote loser, isn't the damage already done?
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Paul Goodman ‏@PaulGoodmanCH 26s

    Am told that Hague is going to Leader of the House and that Fox is definitely back. May be wrong - but source is strong.
  • kle4kle4 Posts: 94,914

    Rumours that Gove could become Home or Foreign Sec

    Would prove 100% that Dave or Ozzie do read PB and have listened to OGH and his ever-so subtle hints re Gove at Education .....
    If you are of the opinion that Gove is a massive vote loser, isn't the damage already done?
    Worth a try to fix it, is I would assume the thinking if a move is on the cards.

  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited July 2014

    Paul Goodman ‏@PaulGoodmanCH 26s

    Am told that Hague is going to Leader of the House and that Fox is definitely back. May be wrong - but source is strong.

    I don't understand what the thinking is behind bringing back Fox.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,840

    Paul Goodman ‏@PaulGoodmanCH 26s

    Am told that Hague is going to Leader of the House and that Fox is definitely back. May be wrong - but source is strong.

    I don't buy Hague as Leader of the House at all. No.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    Paul Goodman ‏@PaulGoodmanCH 26s

    Am told that Hague is going to Leader of the House and that Fox is definitely back. May be wrong - but source is strong.

    I don't understand what is the thinking is behind bringing back Fox.
    I don't understand it either.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,581
    Surely better to put Gove at Foreign where he is more out of the public eye?
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    re-ICM. I recall that a week before polling day the Tories became quite excited when the Labour lead dropped to 5% with ICM. Even their final poll showed a lead of 10% compared with the 13% outcome. That year they were the only polling company to understate the Labour lead.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    edited July 2014
    Ashcroft -- Lansley out, which frees up the house.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 32,997

    Paul Goodman ‏@PaulGoodmanCH 26s

    Am told that Hague is going to Leader of the House and that Fox is definitely back. May be wrong - but source is strong.

    I don't buy Hague as Leader of the House at all. No.
    That's the route Robin Cook took.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    Please no re Dr Fox...

    I suppose it's to counter Owen P going?

    I'd have thought my man, Ken C leaving would have been enough.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,581
    Hague is the Party's best person on TV after Cameron.

    So could make sense to give him low key job - make him available for more prominent TV role.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,840

    Paul Goodman ‏@PaulGoodmanCH 26s

    Am told that Hague is going to Leader of the House and that Fox is definitely back. May be wrong - but source is strong.

    I don't buy Hague as Leader of the House at all. No.
    That's the route Robin Cook took.
    It might well be - but it still doesn't feel right for him.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    James Landale ‏@BBCJLandale 1m

    I am told by top source that we should prepare for a big change at the top of government. Hague, May or Hammond.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,910
    edited July 2014
    Gove as Foreign Sec would be interesting given he's already stated he would leave the EU as things currently stand Re. our relationship with Europe.

    Would shake things up at The Office I'm sure...
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    James Landale ‏@BBCJLandale 2m
    I am told by top source that we should prepare for a big change at the top of government. Hague, May or Hammond.
  • JackWJackW Posts: 14,787
    Latest McARSE Scottish Referendum Projection Countdown :

    11 hours 11 minutes 11 seconds
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    TSE is going to be 'even' more unbearable ....
  • justin124justin124 Posts: 11,527
    My last comment related to 1997!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    The last Tory PM to demote their Foreign Secretary to Leader of the House was toppled as PM a year later by that former Foreign Sec
  • Given some of the other changes, should we expect that arch federalist David Lidlington to be moved as Minister of State for Europe?
  • viewcodeviewcode Posts: 20,972
    GeoffM said:

    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    Bloody hell, looks like Dominic Grieve has been given the heave ho, I'm still fuming at Edward Garnier's axe in 2012

    Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE 50s

    Strange to see Dominic Grieve, attorney general, leaving Cameron office at 6pm looking crestfallen

    Why do you think he went? I'd have thought he was on the same wavelength as Cameron.
    Grieve is in favour of the ECHR, I think the new Tory policy will be to be anti ECHR, and so the new justice and Law Officers team will be proper Euro-sceptics wanting repatriate powers back and enshrine the Supremacy of our laws over European laws.
    If so, 'tis a pity. A government that's bound only by its own conscience is a disaster waiting to happen. Even if they are doing it for the finest of motives, it's still making themselves into tinpot gods. If Parliament is supreme...who stops them when they decide to start hurting people for fun?

    You are right. We were savages before the ECHR saved us from ourselves. Disembowelling random passers-by for fun. And on Sundays, too! Oh the inhumanity of it all.
    So presumably you wouldn't object if there was a piece of paper somewhere that said "Disembowelling passers-by, whether randomly or non-randomly, regardless of motive, is wrong and you cannot do it", and that the government couldn't ignore that piece of paper?...

    ...but you see where I'm going with this.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367

    TSE is going to be 'even' more unbearable ....

    Why?
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,910
    I thought the rumour was that Hague would stay as Foreign Sec until election, then leave government and should Tories form next government Osborne would go to Foreign Office?
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    edited July 2014

    TSE is going to be 'even' more unbearable ....

    Why?
    I thought you'd been mentioned as having tipped Hague for the Euro gig at 25-1 earlier?
  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    Paul Goodman ‏@PaulGoodmanCH 26s

    Am told that Hague is going to Leader of the House and that Fox is definitely back. May be wrong - but source is strong.

    I don't buy Hague as Leader of the House at all. No.
    LotH could either free him up for media time - or allow him to be nominated for EUC without requiring a major reshuffle.
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    edited July 2014

    TSE is going to be 'even' more unbearable ....

    Why?
    I thought you'd been mentioned as having tipped Hague for the Euro gig at 25-1 earlier?
    I was a Michael Howard man
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    Ian Dale suggesting Hague may be standing down as MP too (unclear if he means now, or at election!)
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,910
    edited July 2014

    The last Tory PM to demote their Foreign Secretary to Leader of the House was toppled as PM a year later by that former Foreign Sec

    Difference here though is that Hague seem's to want to quit front-line politics. Or at least take more of a back seat...

    Personally I don't think Hague will be leader of the house. Think he'll go to backbenches and then leave Parliament next year, personally...

  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071
    viewcode said:

    GeoffM said:

    viewcode said:

    Sean_F said:

    Bloody hell, looks like Dominic Grieve has been given the heave ho, I'm still fuming at Edward Garnier's axe in 2012

    Jim Pickard ‏@PickardJE 50s

    Strange to see Dominic Grieve, attorney general, leaving Cameron office at 6pm looking crestfallen

    Why do you think he went? I'd have thought he was on the same wavelength as Cameron.
    Grieve is in favour of the ECHR, I think the new Tory policy will be to be anti ECHR, and so the new justice and Law Officers team will be proper Euro-sceptics wanting repatriate powers back and enshrine the Supremacy of our laws over European laws.
    If so, 'tis a pity. A government that's bound only by its own conscience is a disaster waiting to happen. Even if they are doing it for the finest of motives, it's still making themselves into tinpot gods. If Parliament is supreme...who stops them when they decide to start hurting people for fun?

    You are right. We were savages before the ECHR saved us from ourselves. Disembowelling random passers-by for fun. And on Sundays, too! Oh the inhumanity of it all.
    So presumably you wouldn't object if there was a piece of paper somewhere that said "Disembowelling passers-by, whether randomly or non-randomly, regardless of motive, is wrong and you cannot do it", and that the government couldn't ignore that piece of paper?...

    ...but you see where I'm going with this.
    Yes I see exactly where you are going with this - in to full scale trolling mode.
    However, with apologies, I can't be bothered to bite a second time.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,581
    YouGov/Sun poll tonight - Labour lead by three points: CON 35%, LAB 38%, LD 8%, UKIP 10%
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    I've been commissioned to write the reshuffle thread.

    If Liam Fox is back, and back as Foreign Secretary, expect a lot of swear words in my piece.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,581
    YouGov:

    Con +2, UKIP -2
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,249
    Well wrong on 2 counts today. Firstly I thought ICM would show an increased labour lead and secondly I predicted that the reshuffle would be dull. I think I should stick to bringing ruin on the English cricket team.
  • GeoffMGeoffM Posts: 6,071

    Given some of the other changes, should we expect that arch federalist David Lidlington to be moved as Minister of State for Europe?

    He was here in Gib last week spreading platitudes and weasel words.
    It'd be wonderful to see the back of him.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,910
    edited July 2014

    I've been commissioned to write the reshuffle thread.

    If Liam Fox is back, and back as Foreign Secretary, expect a lot of swear words in my piece.

    I don't buy Dr Fox as Foreign Sec. Not after what happened. Leader of the house or defence sec maybe. Or environment, trasnsport, etc... But I don't think Cameron would risk him in one of the Big Four. Yet.

  • CharlesCharles Posts: 35,758

    I've been commissioned to write the reshuffle thread.

    If Liam Fox is back, and back as Foreign Secretary, expect a lot of swear words in my piece.

    Can't believe he'd get the FFS position.
  • foxinsoxukfoxinsoxuk Posts: 23,548

    I've been commissioned to write the reshuffle thread.

    If Liam Fox is back, and back as Foreign Secretary, expect a lot of swear words in my piece.

    The wrong Dr Fox!

    You want fox in sox sir!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    If it was going to lead at 10, wouldn't we have heard something by now?
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    Hague standing down, confirmed by Cameron.
  • bigjohnowlsbigjohnowls Posts: 22,571
    Tonights YG LAB 341 CON 267 LD 16 (UKPR)

    Ed is crap is PM
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,581
    Looks like UKIP now falling rapidly.
  • Scrapheap_as_wasScrapheap_as_was Posts: 10,067
    Incoming

    Chris Ship‏@chrisshipitv·2 mins
    At 10 @tombradby will have some BIG #reshuffle news. For once - it'll actually be a name most people will have heard of... @itvnews next
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 23s
    1/2 I'd like to pay an enormous tribute to @WilliamJHague who is standing down as an MP at the next election.

    David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 9s
    2/2 Until then, I'm delighted he'll remain my de facto political deputy, play a key campaigning role and be Leader of the House of Commons.

    I spoke too soon!!
  • TheScreamingEaglesTheScreamingEagles Posts: 118,367
    Hague gone.
  • oxfordsimonoxfordsimon Posts: 5,840
    RobD said:

    David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 23s
    1/2 I'd like to pay an enormous tribute to @WilliamJHague who is standing down as an MP at the next election.

    David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 9s
    2/2 Until then, I'm delighted he'll remain my de facto political deputy, play a key campaigning role and be Leader of the House of Commons.

    I spoke too soon!!

    So did I - but there we are.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 80,150
    edited July 2014
    Another (at this stage reported) casualty: Environment Minister Owen Paterson.

    I hear badgers are rejoicing, that was after they put down the goal posts that they were shifting.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,249

    I've been commissioned to write the reshuffle thread.

    If Liam Fox is back, and back as Foreign Secretary, expect a lot of swear words in my piece.

    The wrong Dr Fox!

    You want fox in sox sir!
    Given a straight choice it is yours every time
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    Hague won't be commissioner. Still hope for Howard!
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,541
    edited July 2014
    Hm I suppose first women bishops in 500 years does kinda beat a Cabinet reshuffle... but hmpf.
  • GIN1138GIN1138 Posts: 21,910
    RobD said:

    David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 23s
    1/2 I'd like to pay an enormous tribute to @WilliamJHague who is standing down as an MP at the next election.

    David Cameron ‏@David_Cameron 9s
    2/2 Until then, I'm delighted he'll remain my de facto political deputy, play a key campaigning role and be Leader of the House of Commons.

    I spoke too soon!!

    Thanks for everything William. Enjoy your retirement (next year)
  • Hammond to FCO, according to ITN.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 53,249

    Another (at this stage reported) casualty: Environment Minister Owen Paterson.

    I hear badgers are rejoicing.

    And they are not alone.
  • MikeLMikeL Posts: 7,581
    Hague "key campaigning role" - very good news!
  • MikePMikeP Posts: 47
    Ah shame, Hague was a massive failure and clearly useless at any job he tried, but at least he wasn't as much of an electoral liability as Gove Osborne or IDS.
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