In the betting the money goes on Starmer going before the end of next year – politicalbetting.com
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Starting to look a lot better for the SNP.0
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God this election is depressing for both my politics and my betting.
Gonna give up both for a while, I think.0 -
Not a clue. If they had taken Shetland I would have gone hog wild with a prediction of 68 but no idea. No one has any idea.Gallowgate said:
How many seats are you currently predicting the SNP will win?Alistair said:
Conservative since 2000.Gallowgate said:SNP gain Ayr
Still many Constituencies to go but at the moment it looks like 2015 in miniature with the SNP getting Goldilocks swing across the country, even losing vote share where it doesn't matter.0 -
Another swings and roundabouts gain for the SNP in Ayr which may prove to be very bad news for Joan McAlpine on the list.
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Real test is how do the Greens do on the list.0
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They’ve been at the island’s county count for eight hours now, and actual counting is only an hour in....0
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The list could throw the whole thing up in the air, though.numbertwelve said:Starting to look a lot better for the SNP.
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Like Charles Edward Stuart de nos jours?numbertwelve said:
Corbyn does have a “king over the water who sensible people in the party despair about making a comeback but holds a grim sway over a lot of the base” feel to him. A bit like Trump.Omnium said:
I can't imagine he'd find 20%. The obvious aspirer is Lammy. He's put himself forward for every job in the last ten years. He's also now quite far from his childish former self. I don't think he's brave enough to spark the crisis though.SandyRentool said:
Richard Burgon installing phone lines...CorrectHorseBattery said:Starmer has a year. If it's still dire this time next year he needs to go.
I think it's Corbyn - I think he'll re-emerge.0 -
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SNP GAIN Ayr (South) from Conservative
Siobhan Brown defeats Conservative MSP John Scott, who is too far down the list to be re-elected now. A narrow margin of just 170 votes.
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All a bit Game of Thrones. Anyway once I had the thought it seemed not so daft.numbertwelve said:
Corbyn does have a “king over the water who sensible people in the party despair about making a comeback but holds a grim sway over a lot of the base” feel to him. A bit like Trump.Omnium said:
I can't imagine he'd find 20%. The obvious aspirer is Lammy. He's put himself forward for every job in the last ten years. He's also now quite far from his childish former self. I don't think he's brave enough to spark the crisis though.SandyRentool said:
Richard Burgon installing phone lines...CorrectHorseBattery said:Starmer has a year. If it's still dire this time next year he needs to go.
I think it's Corbyn - I think he'll re-emerge.0 -
Well I do hope so. Though I have to respect the ruthless precision they seem to have in getting just the correct constituency results.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:
The list could throw the whole thing up in the air, though.numbertwelve said:Starting to look a lot better for the SNP.
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UEFA owes the UK govt big time for killing the ESL.Philip_Thompson said:
Should be held in Wembley with 80,000 fans.TheScreamingEagles said:
Government in talks to move the Champions League final to England after Turkey placed on red listtlg86 said:FPT:
Good job there isn't an important sporting event happening there any time soon...FrancisUrquhart said:And he says three new countries will be added to the red list:
Turkey
Maldives
Nepal
The Maldives, that is where so many people went to get from a red country to escape hotel quarantine in the UK...have they taken the covid with them there?
The Telegraph can exclusively reveal that the government is in talks with Uefa and would expect any approach they make to be 'accommodated'
The Government is in talks over bringing the Champions League final to England after placing coronavirus-ravaged Turkey on its “red list” for travel.
Friday’s announcement by Transport Secretary Grant Shapps threw Istanbul’s staging of the all-English clash between Manchester City and Chelsea into major doubt amid current restrictions that force anyone returning from a red-list country – including elite sportspeople – to quarantine for 10 days at a hotel at a cost of £1,750.
With a number of England’s best players due to play in the May 29 final, that would plunge Gareth Southgate’s preparations for the European Championship into chaos.
Telegraph Sport has been told talks are under way between the Government, Football Association and Uefa about moving the match to England, something fan leaders from both clubs, and a host of MPs and public health experts have called for.
Whitehall sources stressed ministers had made no formal request to that effect and had yet to be offered the game but multiple insiders indicated any such approach would be accommodated.
Wembley would be the logical venue to stage the match but it is currently hosting the Championship play-off final on the same day and it is unclear whether the English Football League would be prepared to make way.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2021/05/07/government-talks-move-champions-league-final-england-turkey/
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Ayr (South) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 18881 (43.5%, +2.4)
Conservative ~ 18711 (43.1%, +0.1)
Labour ~ 4766 (11%, -3.1)
Lib Dem ~ 808 (1.9%, nc)
Scotia Future ~ 267 (0.6%, +0.6)
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This is confusing the picture further. In other seats, it looked as though the old Brexit vote was going to Labour. But here, as in Montgomery, it seems to be going to the Tories with the Liberal Democrat vote going to Labour.AndreaParma_82 said:Clwyd South
Lab 43.2 (+7.7)
Con 31.1 (+9.2)
LD -7.3 UKIP -10.6
I wonder if it’s a coincidence that those are two quite anglicised seats?0 -
Looks like all three of our governments are being rewarded.1
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Wilson?Philip_Thompson said:
Unless they've just won a third General Election victory.HarryFreeman said:Labour don't bin leaders mid term.
Other than Blair who is the last Labour leader replaced mid-term? John Smith doesn't count since it wasn't Labour's choice to replace him.0 -
Waverley results as reported earlier confirmed: - 3 LD gains from Con with huge swings, 1 Farnham Residents gain from Con. Also in Surrey, Labour took Egham and is potentially in line for another gain (not yet announced).
Looking at Scotland, I see Sarwar got a decent 5% swing against Sturgeon in her constituency. My bet on SNP<70 seats from a tip here is looking safe.
Some of the Welsh results are remarkably good for Labour. I wonder if there's an element of "rewarding the government" in all 3 countries' results as people look forward to ending lockdown.1 -
One of the secrets of success for Nelson Rockefeller when he first ran for Governor of New York was that he went out & about from NYC delis to upstate county fairs, eating his way thorough an impressive variety of foodstuffs, from pastrami on rye to deep-fried whatever.dixiedean said:
Nonetheless. A leader who could dine on both without suffering indigestion is necessary.SandyRentool said:
It's not so much left v right. It is fish & chips v tofu.dixiedean said:Wasn't having any of this before now. The results in the NE were as I was expecting. Perhaps even slightly better.
But I did expect Labour to move forward in some other regions to compensate. This doesn't appear to have happened.
So. Maybe this is value.
Labour needs someone who both Right and Left of the Party can at least tolerate as a leader. Desperately.
No one obvious springs to mind.
Even Lord Guacamole gets it.
It showed that, though he was scion of one of the wealthiest families in the land, he was at heart (apparently) a regular guy, a true mensch.
And proved Rocky had fortitude, determination and a cast-iron stomach. All important components of modern leadership!0 -
Labour has lost control of Sheffield following a Green and Lib Dem surge.
The Greens made five gains and now have 13 councillors. The Lib Dems took three seats from Labour and now have 29 councillors. Labour is still the largest party, with 41 seats, but that is two short of the majority needed to rule outright. The council is now in no overall control.
The Greens have been nibbling away at Labour’s majority for several years, capitalising on a row over tree felling, which saw one Green councillor prosecuted by the council for her role in protests. Alison Teale was later cleared of all charges. The Greens also received a massive popularity boost thanks to the highly charismatic Magid Magid, a young refugee who made headlines around the world when he became Sheffield’s Lord Mayor and later Green MEP for Yorkshire.0 -
The Scottish Conservatives expect to lose their Edinburgh Central seat to the SNP after record numbers of voters turned out to vote in the Scottish capital, PA Media reports0
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Con just hold Camarthen W and Pemb S - Lab well up again.0
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Four of which are British controlled micro-territories; two of which have basically banned all travel.CarlottaVance said:Many of which you can't get physically get to, and others won't let you in:
Edit to add: Israel is to open up to fully vaccinated travellers later this month0 -
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Lab hold Gower by miles.
Lab doing very well in Wales and Con pretty poorly.0 -
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Conservative HOLD Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire (South)
Rachael Hamilton re-elected.0 -
Why are the Scottish anecdotes all at odds with each other >.> ?!0
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Hmmm - still looking very 2016 to meAramintaMoonbeamQC said:
The list could throw the whole thing up in the air, though.numbertwelve said:Starting to look a lot better for the SNP.
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So. It's really Portugal.rcs1000 said:
Four of which are British controlled micro-territories; two of which have basically banned all travel.CarlottaVance said:Many of which you can't get physically get to, and others won't let you in:
Edit to add: Israel is to open up to fully vaccinated travellers later this month
And Singapore.
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From the BBC
Professor Sir John Curtice
Polling expert
The SNP's narrow gain in the Ayr seat means that the party has secured its second gain among the nine opposition-held marginal seats, six of which the SNP need to get an overall majority.
So far it looks as though the SNP is achieving the small swing that it needs to pick up the crucial marginal seats.0 -
"Rewarding the government" has (mostly) been the norm during the pandemic.
Trumpsky is the leading exception. Gee, wonder why??????
And even he & his minions did better than expected, or (IMHO) warranted.
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Perhaps it would be better for everyone if the entryists from Momentum decided to do their impression of the Borg of Star Trek fame with the Green party?IanB2 said:Labour has lost control of Sheffield following a Green and Lib Dem surge.
The Greens made five gains and now have 13 councillors. The Lib Dems took three seats from Labour and now have 29 councillors. Labour is still the largest party, with 41 seats, but that is two short of the majority needed to rule outright. The council is now in no overall control.
The Greens have been nibbling away at Labour’s majority for several years, capitalising on a row over tree felling, which saw one Green councillor prosecuted by the council for her role in protests. Alison Teale was later cleared of all charges. The Greens also received a massive popularity boost thanks to the highly charismatic Magid Magid, a young refugee who made headlines around the world when he became Sheffield’s Lord Mayor and later Green MEP for Yorkshire.0 -
Con vote share down 4% in Ettrick - ominous for other seats in South of Scotland.1
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Well, we Celts ARE a turbulent, divisive lot.Pulpstar said:Why are the Scottish anecdotes all at odds with each other >.> ?!
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If Burgon or a resurgent Corbyn came to pass, that would be the end for Labour.SandyRentool said:
Richard Burgon installing phone lines...CorrectHorseBattery said:Starmer has a year. If it's still dire this time next year he needs to go.
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On topic: My feeling is Starmer will fight the GE as Labour leader but I can't say I'm that sure about it. A bad bad day.
As for "it’s almost as if backers of the former leader (JC) are delighted that LAB has done so badly", there's a reason why it looks like that. They are. Many of them are over the fucking moon about it.
And this is no different to how the Blairite Right of the party rooted (indeed worked) for Labour to lose badly under JC at GE17 (disappointed!) and at GE19 (bingo!).
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One has to wonder whether all the publicity that the pandemic has given to party leaders has had an effect? It is a bit like having regular party political broadcasts. The vaccine will have magnified this effect even furtherMikeL said:Lab hold Gower by miles.
Lab doing very well in Wales and Con pretty poorly.1 -
In the case of at least one Corbynista earlier, not so much over the moon as bending over and mooning by displaying they’re arses.kinabalu said:On topic: My feeling is Starmer will fight the GE as Labour leader but I can't say I'm that sure about it. A bad bad day.
As for "it’s almost as if backers of the former leader (JC) are delighted that LAB has done so badly", there's a reason why it looks like that. They are. Many of them are over the fucking moon about it.
And this is no different to how the Blairite Right of the party rooted (indeed worked) for Labour to lose badly under JC at GE17 (disappointed!) and at GE19 (bingo!).
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It might sometime turn out to be easier for everyone if two Left-inclined parties - Left-Labour and the Greens, and two centreish-inclined left parties, Right-Labour and the Liberal Democrats, finally saw if they could win by a pact coalescing around PR. Starmer should be given a good run yet to try and hold the Labour party together first, though, I think.Nigel_Foremain said:
Perhaps it would be better for everyone if the entryists from Momentum decided to do their impression of the Borg of Star Trek fame with the Green party?IanB2 said:Labour has lost control of Sheffield following a Green and Lib Dem surge.
The Greens made five gains and now have 13 councillors. The Lib Dems took three seats from Labour and now have 29 councillors. Labour is still the largest party, with 41 seats, but that is two short of the majority needed to rule outright. The council is now in no overall control.
The Greens have been nibbling away at Labour’s majority for several years, capitalising on a row over tree felling, which saw one Green councillor prosecuted by the council for her role in protests. Alison Teale was later cleared of all charges. The Greens also received a massive popularity boost thanks to the highly charismatic Magid Magid, a young refugee who made headlines around the world when he became Sheffield’s Lord Mayor and later Green MEP for Yorkshire.0 -
Edit: I of course meant the leaders who are in powerNigel_Foremain said:
One has to wonder whether all the publicity that the pandemic has given to party leaders has had an effect? It is a bit like having regular party political broadcasts. The vaccine will have magnified this effect even furtherMikeL said:Lab hold Gower by miles.
Lab doing very well in Wales and Con pretty poorly.0 -
NOOONigel_Foremain said:
Perhaps it would be better for everyone if the entryists from Momentum decided to do their impression of the Borg of Star Trek fame with the Green party?IanB2 said:Labour has lost control of Sheffield following a Green and Lib Dem surge.
The Greens made five gains and now have 13 councillors. The Lib Dems took three seats from Labour and now have 29 councillors. Labour is still the largest party, with 41 seats, but that is two short of the majority needed to rule outright. The council is now in no overall control.
The Greens have been nibbling away at Labour’s majority for several years, capitalising on a row over tree felling, which saw one Green councillor prosecuted by the council for her role in protests. Alison Teale was later cleared of all charges. The Greens also received a massive popularity boost thanks to the highly charismatic Magid Magid, a young refugee who made headlines around the world when he became Sheffield’s Lord Mayor and later Green MEP for Yorkshire.
I’ve switched over to the green team because, at least in my part of the West Midlands, they’re NOT nutters.
They’re fiscally sensible, socially liberal pro-hs2 ex-Lib Dems, on the whole.
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SNP have held Rutherglen, which was at one point talked up by Labour as a possibility - means Clare Haughey will be returned to Holyrood, while James Kelly is likely out (being fifth on Labour's Glasgow list)
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Statement of the bleeding obvious: these are local elections.
We should expect nationally counterintuitive results where there's an unpopular incumbent local council, or other extenuating circumstances.2 -
Curtice:
Wales: Con down 10% vs 2019 GE. Lab flat.0 -
A total disaster that doesn't cost that much is the best sort of total disasters. Starmer has been lucky to that extent.kinabalu said:On topic: My feeling is Starmer will fight the GE as Labour leader but I can't say I'm that sure about it. A bad bad day.
As for "it’s almost as if backers of the former leader (JC) are delighted that LAB has done so badly", there's a reason why it looks like that. They are. Many of them are over the fucking moon about it.
And this is no different to how the Blairite Right of the party rooted (indeed worked) for Labour to lose badly under JC at GE17 (disappointed!) and at GE19 (bingo!).
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It's legacy British Empire + longstanding allies.rcs1000 said:
Four of which are British controlled micro-territories; two of which have basically banned all travel.CarlottaVance said:Many of which you can't get physically get to, and others won't let you in:
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Yep. Let’s hope the Greens and LibDems can hold together with such a slim majority to take the council from Labourping said:
NOOONigel_Foremain said:
Perhaps it would be better for everyone if the entryists from Momentum decided to do their impression of the Borg of Star Trek fame with the Green party?IanB2 said:Labour has lost control of Sheffield following a Green and Lib Dem surge.
The Greens made five gains and now have 13 councillors. The Lib Dems took three seats from Labour and now have 29 councillors. Labour is still the largest party, with 41 seats, but that is two short of the majority needed to rule outright. The council is now in no overall control.
The Greens have been nibbling away at Labour’s majority for several years, capitalising on a row over tree felling, which saw one Green councillor prosecuted by the council for her role in protests. Alison Teale was later cleared of all charges. The Greens also received a massive popularity boost thanks to the highly charismatic Magid Magid, a young refugee who made headlines around the world when he became Sheffield’s Lord Mayor and later Green MEP for Yorkshire.
I’ve switched over to the green team because, at least in my part of the West Midlands, they’re NOT nutters.
They’re fiscally sensible, socially liberal pro-hs2 ex-Lib Dems, on the whole.
Labour can keep the corbynistas.0 -
This was a Labour target seat.
Rutherglen (Glasgow) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 20249 (50.5%, +4.3)
Labour ~ 15083 (37.6%, +2.8)
Conservative ~ 3663 (9.1%, -2.2)
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And prior to Wilson, George Lansbury. And before him, Arthur Henderson.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Wilson?Philip_Thompson said:
Unless they've just won a third General Election victory.HarryFreeman said:Labour don't bin leaders mid term.
Other than Blair who is the last Labour leader replaced mid-term? John Smith doesn't count since it wasn't Labour's choice to replace him.
Note that Labour DID boot Henderson's predecessor as Leader, namely Ramsey Macdonald.
But THAT was a very special case!0 -
I would love it, LOVE IT, if Corbyn became labour leader again
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I think the Starmer is **** narrative is quite rightly gaining traction, particularly with the potential loss of London, is there an Andrew RT Davies is **** narrative on the way, because he really is!ydoethur said:
And Alyn and Deeside.MikeL said:Lab hold Gower by miles.
Lab doing very well in Wales and Con pretty poorly.
Labour vote up, albeit Tory vote up by much more.0 -
Though the vote distribution has been a bit all over the place..MikeL said:Con vote share down 4% in Ettrick - ominous for other seats in South of Scotland.
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Ayr often seems to have very close results, such as in 1992.Carnyx said:allot Box Scotland
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Ayr (South) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 18881 (43.5%, +2.4)
Conservative ~ 18711 (43.1%, +0.1)
Labour ~ 4766 (11%, -3.1)
Lib Dem ~ 808 (1.9%, nc)
Scotia Future ~ 267 (0.6%, +0.6)
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STV colleagues reporting that former Westminster leader of SNP @AngusRobertson
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Be careful for what you wish. You paid your £3 and nearly got the ******* in number 10 in 2017.noisywinter said:I would love it, LOVE IT, if Corbyn became labour leader again
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Henderson wasn’t ‘booted out,’ he lost his seat.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
And prior to Wilson, George Lansbury. And before him, Arthur Henderson.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Wilson?Philip_Thompson said:
Unless they've just won a third General Election victory.HarryFreeman said:Labour don't bin leaders mid term.
Other than Blair who is the last Labour leader replaced mid-term? John Smith doesn't count since it wasn't Labour's choice to replace him.
Note that Labour DID boot Henderson's predecessor as Leader, namely Ramsey Macdonald.
But THAT was a very special case!0 -
This is like 2007 where Betfair was all over the place on whether Labour or SNP would get most seats.Pulpstar said:Why are the Scottish anecdotes all at odds with each other >.> ?!
Unfortunately I simply don't have enough data to model it so I'm guessing - I'm inclined to back SNP majority above 2/1 though.0 -
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If true, all eyes on Moray, Aberdeenshire West, Eastwood and DumbartonCarnyx said:Belay that, the SNP now have 3 target seats in the bag -
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It looks like Johnson is doing well in England, Drakeford in Wales, and Sturgeon in Scotland. I'm not sure I'm a fan of this lack of rebelliousness against national leaders.3
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On Topic - "Before the end of next year"
Surely that should be next week.
Hopeless leader. His interview just now was the pits. Sounded like a Month Python sketch.0 -
No. Singapore bans all non resident arrivals and recently stopped UK residents transit in Changi.rcs1000 said:
So. It's really Portugal.rcs1000 said:
Four of which are British controlled micro-territories; two of which have basically banned all travel.CarlottaVance said:Many of which you can't get physically get to, and others won't let you in:
Edit to add: Israel is to open up to fully vaccinated travellers later this month
And Singapore.
And that's it.
Realistically Australia/NZ can't reopen until they have achieved herd immunity through vaccination - which may take a while.0 -
FPT (though I may be confused)
Piccie:MattW said:
I think he means the Test Cricketer turned Bishop of Woolwich, Bishop of Liverpool 1975-1997 and then Labour Life Peer. Spelt Sheppard, though.Carnyx said:
The elephant and locomotive painter?Selebian said:
And somewhere, the spirit of David Shepherd is lifting a foot.Malmesbury said:
66.6% no lessBlack_Rook said:
Whatever they're on, could I have some please?CarlottaVance said:That would be a surprise:
I can’t believe I’m writing this. But Tory sources say Shaun Bailey’s campaign now believe they can win the London mayoralty.
https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1390687211184705541?s=20
Unrelated good news: two-thirds of the adult population of the UK have now had their first Covid jab.
What will the....errr... religiously interesting types make of that?
Who was quite a politically-engaged Bishop and therefore on-topic.
Did a lot wrt Protestant - Roman-Catholic relations in Liverpool alongside Archbishop Derek Worlock.
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Well, not this set of national leaders, given how shit they are.Andy_JS said:It looks like Johnson is doing well in England, Drakeford in Wales, and Sturgeon in Scotland. I'm not sure I'm a fan of this lack of rebelliousness against national leaders.
Not that Andrew RT Davies or the egregious DRoss are notably better.0 -
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When the Tories asked for tactical voting they didn't mean anti Tory tactical voting.Carnyx said:allot Box Scotland
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Ayr (South) Constituency Vote:
SNP ~ 18881 (43.5%, +2.4)
Conservative ~ 18711 (43.1%, +0.1)
Labour ~ 4766 (11%, -3.1)
Lib Dem ~ 808 (1.9%, nc)
Scotia Future ~ 267 (0.6%, +0.6)
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Philip Sim
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To sub-divide even the top-ten list of marginals, obvs SNP gains in areas where they aren't going to lose list seats as a result are utterly key - so Edinburgh Central, Aberdeenshire West, Eastwood and Dumbarton. The question of a majority could hang chiefly on those four...0 -
This is turning out to be far more interesting than I thought. Increased turnout has thrown things into play.Gallowgate said:
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Singapore has hotel quarantine and just announced tightened domestic restrictions because of a small handful of cases, despite decent progress with vaccine. They are still in thrall to zero covid-ism.rcs1000 said:
So. It's really Portugal.rcs1000 said:
Four of which are British controlled micro-territories; two of which have basically banned all travel.CarlottaVance said:Many of which you can't get physically get to, and others won't let you in:
Edit to add: Israel is to open up to fully vaccinated travellers later this month
And Singapore.
And that's it.0 -
Khan now suffering from Starmers leadership. Turnout is dire.
Struggling to beat the worst Tory Mayoral Candidate ever.
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He meant David Shepherd the former Gloucestershire cricketer and eccentric umpire. Always stood on one leg for a ‘Nelson’ I.e. three digits the same in the score.MattW said:FPT (though I may be confused)
Piccie:MattW said:
I think he means the Test Cricketer turned Bishop of Woolwich, Bishop of Liverpool 1975-1997 and then Labour Life Peer. Spelt Sheppard, though.Carnyx said:
The elephant and locomotive painter?Selebian said:
And somewhere, the spirit of David Shepherd is lifting a foot.Malmesbury said:
66.6% no lessBlack_Rook said:
Whatever they're on, could I have some please?CarlottaVance said:That would be a surprise:
I can’t believe I’m writing this. But Tory sources say Shaun Bailey’s campaign now believe they can win the London mayoralty.
https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1390687211184705541?s=20
Unrelated good news: two-thirds of the adult population of the UK have now had their first Covid jab.
What will the....errr... religiously interesting types make of that?
Who was quite a politically-engaged Bishop and therefore on-topic.
Did a lot wrt Protestant - Roman-Catholic relations in Liverpool alongside Archbishop Derek Worlock.
Who oddly, had about the weight of an elephant.
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Thank you!MattW said:FPT (though I may be confused)
Piccie:MattW said:
I think he means the Test Cricketer turned Bishop of Woolwich, Bishop of Liverpool 1975-1997 and then Labour Life Peer. Spelt Sheppard, though.Carnyx said:
The elephant and locomotive painter?Selebian said:
And somewhere, the spirit of David Shepherd is lifting a foot.Malmesbury said:
66.6% no lessBlack_Rook said:
Whatever they're on, could I have some please?CarlottaVance said:That would be a surprise:
I can’t believe I’m writing this. But Tory sources say Shaun Bailey’s campaign now believe they can win the London mayoralty.
https://twitter.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1390687211184705541?s=20
Unrelated good news: two-thirds of the adult population of the UK have now had their first Covid jab.
What will the....errr... religiously interesting types make of that?
Who was quite a politically-engaged Bishop and therefore on-topic.
Did a lot wrt Protestant - Roman-Catholic relations in Liverpool alongside Archbishop Derek Worlock.1 -
Fascinating results nationally. Scotland not looking quite as promising for those of us who don't want the UK destroyed. If only the Labour and LD unionists had been more prepared to back the Tory unionists an SNP majority might have been averted. Nailed on now surely?
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"Wha'll be King but Jezza?"Carnyx said:
Like Charles Edward Stuart de nos jours?numbertwelve said:
Corbyn does have a “king over the water who sensible people in the party despair about making a comeback but holds a grim sway over a lot of the base” feel to him. A bit like Trump.Omnium said:
I can't imagine he'd find 20%. The obvious aspirer is Lammy. He's put himself forward for every job in the last ten years. He's also now quite far from his childish former self. I don't think he's brave enough to spark the crisis though.SandyRentool said:
Richard Burgon installing phone lines...CorrectHorseBattery said:Starmer has a year. If it's still dire this time next year he needs to go.
I think it's Corbyn - I think he'll re-emerge.0 -
Rory must be kicking himself tonightbigjohnowls said:Khan now suffering from Starmers leadership. Turnout is dire.
Struggling to beat the worst Tory Mayoral Candidate ever.
Starmer Out2 -
I was starting to think just that then I remembered that often the constituency win results in the list seat disappearing.Casino_Royale said:
This is like 2007 where Betfair was all over the place on whether Labour or SNP would get most seats.Pulpstar said:Why are the Scottish anecdotes all at odds with each other >.> ?!
Unfortunately I simply don't have enough data to model it so I'm guessing - I'm inclined to back SNP majority above 2/1 though.
So these wins will probably have zero actual impact to the final result and I don't know enough about how the list works to make a valid decision.2 -
No hotel quarantine on South Sandwich Is. No hotel either.moonshine said:
Singapore has hotel quarantine and just announced tightened domestic restrictions because of a small handful of cases, despite decent progress with vaccine. They are still in thrall to zero covid-ism.rcs1000 said:
So. It's really Portugal.rcs1000 said:
Four of which are British controlled micro-territories; two of which have basically banned all travel.CarlottaVance said:Many of which you can't get physically get to, and others won't let you in:
Edit to add: Israel is to open up to fully vaccinated travellers later this month
And Singapore.
And that's it.8 -
You are loving this.bigjohnowls said:Khan now suffering from Starmers leadership. Turnout is dire.
Struggling to beat the worst Tory Mayoral Candidate ever.
Starmer Out
It is remarkable how well Corbyn did in 2017 and fortunate that 2019 never happened.0 -
That's us booked for Lisbon end May. Happy days.0
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DIY with whale ribs and plastic sheeting, I believe.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
No hotel quarantine on South Sandwich Is. No hotel either.moonshine said:
Singapore has hotel quarantine and just announced tightened domestic restrictions because of a small handful of cases, despite decent progress with vaccine. They are still in thrall to zero covid-ism.rcs1000 said:
So. It's really Portugal.rcs1000 said:
Four of which are British controlled micro-territories; two of which have basically banned all travel.CarlottaVance said:Many of which you can't get physically get to, and others won't let you in:
Edit to add: Israel is to open up to fully vaccinated travellers later this month
And Singapore.
And that's it.1 -
A suggestion about the meaning of the votes so far: These votes enforce two trends
1) The move towards voting for power. Labour doing OK in Wales, SNP slightly on the up in Scotland, Tories doing better in most of England especially where they were already making progress.
In each case the immediate holder of the purse strings and power is consolidating.
Not only is identity politics being enforced, so is pork barrel. Eg in part Hartlepool is saying 'Me Too' about help from the centre - maybe they are looking at Darlington.
2) The move towards opposition between forces. Urban Labour v Tories in the rest, for England. Unionist v Nat in Scotland. And an intensification of Leave v Remain. And a move towards a showdown between the big force where only one winner is possible: Sturgeon v Boris.1 -
AgreedCarnyx said:Philip Sim
@BBCPhilipSim
To sub-divide even the top-ten list of marginals, obvs SNP gains in areas where they aren't going to lose list seats as a result are utterly key - so Edinburgh Central, Aberdeenshire West, Eastwood and Dumbarton. The question of a majority could hang chiefly on those four...
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Snp maj now odds on1
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I'm delighted to announce PB's JohnO has been re-elected.17
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Khalid Mahmood is the Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr.
"James Forsyth
@JGForsyth
Khalid Mahmood has resigned from the Labour front bench saying that 'A London-based bourgeoisie, with the support of brigades of woke social media warriors, has effectively captured the party'"3 -
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Yes, but if they win 65 constituencies then they have a majority no matter what.eek said:
I was starting to think just that then I remembered that often the constituency win results in the list seat disappearing.Casino_Royale said:
This is like 2007 where Betfair was all over the place on whether Labour or SNP would get most seats.Pulpstar said:Why are the Scottish anecdotes all at odds with each other >.> ?!
Unfortunately I simply don't have enough data to model it so I'm guessing - I'm inclined to back SNP majority above 2/1 though.
So these wins will probably have zero actual impact to the final result and I don't know enough about how the list works to make a valid decision.2 -
Khalid Mahmood has resigned from the Labour front bench saying that 'A London-based bourgeoisie, with the support of brigades of woke social media warriors, has effectively captured the party'CorrectHorseBattery said:https://twitter.com/JGForsyth/status/1390711677457403910
Didn't know Leon was an MP
Sounds like this Labour MP has a firm grasp on the culture war that you keep telling us doesn't exist...4 -
Exactly. It's something we'd need Rod Crosby to fathom for us.eek said:
I was starting to think just that then I remembered that often the constituency win results in the list seat disappearing.Casino_Royale said:
This is like 2007 where Betfair was all over the place on whether Labour or SNP would get most seats.Pulpstar said:Why are the Scottish anecdotes all at odds with each other >.> ?!
Unfortunately I simply don't have enough data to model it so I'm guessing - I'm inclined to back SNP majority above 2/1 though.
So these wins will probably have zero actual impact to the final result and I don't know enough about how the list works to make a valid decision.
But, he banned.0 -
ELECTION RESULT
SNP HOLD Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch
Kate Forbes re-elected as MSP with a majority of +15,0000 -
Can't kick him out yet you need to find a safe seat for Pidcock first so she can become the new leader and messiahessbigjohnowls said:Khan now suffering from Starmers leadership. Turnout is dire.
Struggling to beat the worst Tory Mayoral Candidate ever.
Starmer Out2 -
Fair play to him for having the courage of his convictionsAndy_JS said:Khalid Mahmood is the Labour MP for Birmingham Perry Barr.
"James Forsyth
@JGForsyth
Khalid Mahmood has resigned from the Labour front bench saying that 'A London-based bourgeoisie, with the support of brigades of woke social media warriors, has effectively captured the party'"4 -
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He did say that many weren't letting us in yet.Scott_xP said:No wonder Grant Shapps didn't read out the full list of 12 countries on the quarantine-free travel 'green list' - it includes Australia and New Zealand, which aren't letting anyone in
https://twitter.com/JasonGroves1/status/1390701826211725315
EU will be very difficult given the EuCo dogma about open borders, and the level of average COVID cases there running at a level we dropped below in *early-mid February* .
I think that Portugal is the interesting one on this list - what are they doing with their Spanish border?
I'd say the next places will be Malta if cases fall, and Canada who are vaccinating like gangbusters.1
