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There is also a certain strand of opinion that is completely desperate for the EU to succeed and the UK to fail - and the bigger the contrast the better. For them, the present situation must be very hard to bear. A bit like how it must've been to be a member of the Corbyn Left the morning after the 2019 General Election - I think for some people it doesn't compute, and the response is to retreat into complete denial (and even fantasy, as per that risible commentary penned by that French hack that people were laughing at the other day,) as a self-defence mechanism.williamglenn said:
What's amazing is the number of people who even now are convinced that the UK's success so far is just some kind of fluke or illusion and the EU will catch up and overtake us before long. It's a complete refusal to accept reality.Casino_Royale said:
Sadly, it's probably more important to them to sledge the UK and protect political myths about the EU, than save a few thousand lives.Black_Rook said:
Ah, I see someone else has already spotted the "EU citizens running in terror from the Oxford jab" story.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is almost like the EU hired Andrew Wakefield to be in the charge of the vaccine rollout.FrancisUrquhart said:
How did that possibly happen.....its as if high profile individuals and media outlets have been reporting that its a shit vaccine based on pseudo-science.IanB2 said:Guardian breaking: Doctors and public health officials have pleaded with Germans to take up AstraZeneca Covid vaccines against the coronavirus, AFP reports. German healthcare facilities have reported several hundred thousand vials sitting unused and rampant no-shows at scheduled appointments.
Officials in Italy, Austria and Bulgaria were also starting to signal some public resistance to the British vaccine, and France’s health minister, Olivier Véran, got the jab live on television to drum up support.
“If you are given the choice between AstraZeneca now or another vaccine in a few months, you should definitely take AstraZeneca now,” implored Carsten Watzl, general secretary of the German Society for Immunology.
The health minister, Jens Spahn, echoed the message, calling all three vaccines approved in the EU – AstraZeneca, BioNTech/Pfizer and Moderna – “safe and effective” despite varying levels of efficacy.
So, they don't have their shots, the continental lockdowns last longer and more of them die.
At the end of all this somebody should ask people like Macron and that tit from that German newspaper whether they might, perhaps, regret some of the rot that they've come out with. It's arguably worse than Trump's bleach remarks, which were, at least, transparently ridiculous.
They'd probably use confirmation bias to convince themselves the "cost" was worth it versus the many more lives that they suspect would be lost if the EU collapsed.4 -
Takeup in my area for over 70s is at 99.5% (of the 2018 population estimate).3
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I think the public will make the decision for Johnson what ever the SAGE people are muttering in his ear. Once over 50s are done there will be so much boozy mixing between households that he may as well open the pubs.IanB2 said:Katy Balls: Once the impact of the vaccines is visible, MPs are banking on a shift in public opinion. “Once the over-50s are done,” says one, “the political room gets small for the prime minister. People will go about their business.” If Johnson deviates far from his original aim of a scientific cavalry stopping the NHS from being overwhelmed, he will have a lockdown rebellion on his hands.
People have had enough imho.0 -
The danger (to a number of EU politicians’ election chances) will be when that line becomes completely unsustainable. It’s mad to try and spin some of these lines.williamglenn said:
What's amazing is the number of people who even now are convinced that the UK's success so far is just some kind of fluke or illusion and the EU will catch up and overtake us before long. It's a complete refusal to accept reality.Casino_Royale said:
Sadly, it's probably more important to them to sledge the UK and protect political myths about the EU, than save a few thousand lives.Black_Rook said:
Ah, I see someone else has already spotted the "EU citizens running in terror from the Oxford jab" story.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is almost like the EU hired Andrew Wakefield to be in the charge of the vaccine rollout.FrancisUrquhart said:
How did that possibly happen.....its as if high profile individuals and media outlets have been reporting that its a shit vaccine based on pseudo-science.IanB2 said:Guardian breaking: Doctors and public health officials have pleaded with Germans to take up AstraZeneca Covid vaccines against the coronavirus, AFP reports. German healthcare facilities have reported several hundred thousand vials sitting unused and rampant no-shows at scheduled appointments.
Officials in Italy, Austria and Bulgaria were also starting to signal some public resistance to the British vaccine, and France’s health minister, Olivier Véran, got the jab live on television to drum up support.
“If you are given the choice between AstraZeneca now or another vaccine in a few months, you should definitely take AstraZeneca now,” implored Carsten Watzl, general secretary of the German Society for Immunology.
The health minister, Jens Spahn, echoed the message, calling all three vaccines approved in the EU – AstraZeneca, BioNTech/Pfizer and Moderna – “safe and effective” despite varying levels of efficacy.
So, they don't have their shots, the continental lockdowns last longer and more of them die.
At the end of all this somebody should ask people like Macron and that tit from that German newspaper whether they might, perhaps, regret some of the rot that they've come out with. It's arguably worse than Trump's bleach remarks, which were, at least, transparently ridiculous.
They'd probably use confirmation bias to convince themselves the "cost" was worth it versus the many more lives that they suspect would be lost if the EU collapsed.
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Derry deserves to be higher, especially if the weather is fine and you can get there and back in a day!turbotubbs said:
I’ve as much chance of winning this one as I have of fixing official season dates, but for the last time a staycation is staying in your own home and taking day trips. A holiday in Cornwall, assuming you don’t live there, is called a holiday.IanB2 said:Global travel site Big 7 Travel has released the official 2021 list of the ’25 Best UK Staycations’; the top ten, in order:
Cornwall – England
The Lake District – England
Yorkshire Dales – England
Edinburgh – Scotland
Loch Lomond – Scotland
Isle of Wight – England
Norfolk Broads – England
Bath – England
Ballycastle – Northern Ireland
Manchester – England
6. Isle of Wight
This island off England’s southeast coast is famous for many things, from its stunning sandy beaches to its vibrant local culture and rich prehistoric history. One of the island’s biggest claims to fames is its plethora of fossils that have led to the discovery of more than 25 different dinosaurs that called Isle of Wight home in their day. For more recent history, there’s Queen Victoria’s royal former residence and Italian Renaissance dream in East Cowes, the Osborne House. And for a break from the tranquil sandy beaches, head to The Needles rock formation off the west end of the island.
11 - Cotswolds
12 - Snowdonia
13 - Scilly Isles
14 - Anglesey
15 - London (!)
16 - N Yorks moors
17 - Pembroke coast
18 - Orkney
19 - Brighton
20 - Skye
21 - Norwich (?)
22 - Inverness
23 - Cardiff
24 - Derry
25 - Oxford0 -
This brings me to another question I kept meaning to ask during the post election period.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
ERROR ALERT- Think I screwed up re: Lloyd Benson, am doing some further research!SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
What happens to Kamala Harris's seat now she is VP. Does there have to be an election or is she still the sitting Senator as well as being VP?0 -
Come back opinion polls all is forgiven!
Thanks to Fishing for a very interesting set of results, even if one does have to be very careful with small sample sizes.
I always prefer in such situations to see scatter plots of the raw data, as it can give one a feel as to the reliability of the computed statistics.1 -
A pun on “Roulette”?TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.1 -
Firstly, I have my doubts about this supposed shift in public opinion because so many people are happy being paid for doing nothing.IanB2 said:Katy Balls: Once the impact of the vaccines is visible, MPs are banking on a shift in public opinion. “Once the over-50s are done,” says one, “the political room gets small for the prime minister. People will go about their business.” If Johnson deviates far from his original aim of a scientific cavalry stopping the NHS from being overwhelmed, he will have a lockdown rebellion on his hands.
Secondly, note how the MPs are beholden to public opinion rather than making the decisions for themselves. They are not leading the country they are following the ignorant.0 -
Obviously we are in different areas but I certainly don't get that impression where I am or amongst any of my wider friends and relations. They are all very much of the view that they should continue to follow lockdown until everyone who needs to be has been jabbed.rottenborough said:
I think the public will make the decision for Johnson what ever the SAGE people are muttering in his ear. Once over 50s are done there will be so much boozy mixing between households that he may as well open the pubs.IanB2 said:Katy Balls: Once the impact of the vaccines is visible, MPs are banking on a shift in public opinion. “Once the over-50s are done,” says one, “the political room gets small for the prime minister. People will go about their business.” If Johnson deviates far from his original aim of a scientific cavalry stopping the NHS from being overwhelmed, he will have a lockdown rebellion on his hands.
People have had enough imho.2 -
A replacement is appointed:Richard_Tyndall said:
This brings me to another question I kept meaning to ask during the post election period.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
ERROR ALERT- Think I screwed up re: Lloyd Benson, am doing some further research!SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
What happens to Kamala Harris's seat now she is VP. Does there have to be an election or is she still the sitting Senator as well as being VP?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/kamala-harris-senate-seat-california-vice-president-b1788845.html1 -
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!1 -
OK, was correct about Lloyd Benson EXCEPT that I got the year & running mate wrong: was 1988 when Benson was VP running mate for Mike Dukakis AND ran for re-election as US SenatorSeaShantyIrish2 said:
ERROR ALERT- Think I screwed up re: Lloyd Benson, am doing some further research!SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
Re: Ted Cruz, one reason why he MIGHT have harder time running for two offices at once, for US Senate re-election AND for Pres (or VP) is that he is WAY less popular in Lone Star State than either LBJ or Benson in their heydays.
For example, in 1988, though the Dukakis-Benson ticket lost Texas, Benson by himself was re-elected US senator with 59% of the vote.0 -
I wonder if they simply hung them in the air and filmed straight up from the bottom to hide the suspension cables?Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.
Or underwater in a pool?0 -
Ted has upset some locals by legging it to Cancun during the big freeze. But it's Texas, so I guess they'll give him a pass on that, and also on his contribution to the recent failed insurrection.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
He may be a tosser, but he's their kind of tosser.0 -
PS http://wearecult.rocks/it-wont-be-easy-star-cops-thirty-years-onCarnyx said:
I wonder if they simply hung them in the air and filmed straight up from the bottom to hide the suspension cables?Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.
Or underwater in a pool?0 -
Ah well, it was a brave attempt at punning on winding a wheel...TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)0 -
TaRichard_Nabavi said:
A replacement is appointed:Richard_Tyndall said:
This brings me to another question I kept meaning to ask during the post election period.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
ERROR ALERT- Think I screwed up re: Lloyd Benson, am doing some further research!SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
What happens to Kamala Harris's seat now she is VP. Does there have to be an election or is she still the sitting Senator as well as being VP?
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/kamala-harris-senate-seat-california-vice-president-b1788845.html0 -
What about if I go and stay with family in Devon? Does that count as a holiday or staycation?turbotubbs said:
I’ve as much chance of winning this one as I have of fixing official season dates, but for the last time a staycation is staying in your own home and taking day trips. A holiday in Cornwall, assuming you don’t live there, is called a holiday.IanB2 said:Global travel site Big 7 Travel has released the official 2021 list of the ’25 Best UK Staycations’; the top ten, in order:
Cornwall – England
The Lake District – England
Yorkshire Dales – England
Edinburgh – Scotland
Loch Lomond – Scotland
Isle of Wight – England
Norfolk Broads – England
Bath – England
Ballycastle – Northern Ireland
Manchester – England
6. Isle of Wight
This island off England’s southeast coast is famous for many things, from its stunning sandy beaches to its vibrant local culture and rich prehistoric history. One of the island’s biggest claims to fames is its plethora of fossils that have led to the discovery of more than 25 different dinosaurs that called Isle of Wight home in their day. For more recent history, there’s Queen Victoria’s royal former residence and Italian Renaissance dream in East Cowes, the Osborne House. And for a break from the tranquil sandy beaches, head to The Needles rock formation off the west end of the island.
11 - Cotswolds
12 - Snowdonia
13 - Scilly Isles
14 - Anglesey
15 - London (!)
16 - N Yorks moors
17 - Pembroke coast
18 - Orkney
19 - Brighton
20 - Skye
21 - Norwich (?)
22 - Inverness
23 - Cardiff
24 - Derry
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I thought you were going to say ‘because the bloody things never work anyway.’Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!0 -
To be fair the converse is also true. I know of a few people who are revelling in the failure of the EU in comparison to the UK. Given this is about life and death and that people are definitely dying every time a Government screws up with regard to Covid I am afraid I find the whole thing distasteful in the extreme.Black_Rook said:
There is also a certain strand of opinion that is completely desperate for the EU to succeed and the UK to fail - and the bigger the contrast the better. For them, the present situation must be very hard to bear. A bit like how it must've been to be a member of the Corbyn Left the morning after the 2019 General Election - I think for some people it doesn't compute, and the response is to retreat into complete denial (and even fantasy, as per that risible commentary penned by that French hack that people were laughing at the other day,) as a self-defence mechanism.williamglenn said:
What's amazing is the number of people who even now are convinced that the UK's success so far is just some kind of fluke or illusion and the EU will catch up and overtake us before long. It's a complete refusal to accept reality.Casino_Royale said:
Sadly, it's probably more important to them to sledge the UK and protect political myths about the EU, than save a few thousand lives.Black_Rook said:
Ah, I see someone else has already spotted the "EU citizens running in terror from the Oxford jab" story.TheScreamingEagles said:
It is almost like the EU hired Andrew Wakefield to be in the charge of the vaccine rollout.FrancisUrquhart said:
How did that possibly happen.....its as if high profile individuals and media outlets have been reporting that its a shit vaccine based on pseudo-science.IanB2 said:Guardian breaking: Doctors and public health officials have pleaded with Germans to take up AstraZeneca Covid vaccines against the coronavirus, AFP reports. German healthcare facilities have reported several hundred thousand vials sitting unused and rampant no-shows at scheduled appointments.
Officials in Italy, Austria and Bulgaria were also starting to signal some public resistance to the British vaccine, and France’s health minister, Olivier Véran, got the jab live on television to drum up support.
“If you are given the choice between AstraZeneca now or another vaccine in a few months, you should definitely take AstraZeneca now,” implored Carsten Watzl, general secretary of the German Society for Immunology.
The health minister, Jens Spahn, echoed the message, calling all three vaccines approved in the EU – AstraZeneca, BioNTech/Pfizer and Moderna – “safe and effective” despite varying levels of efficacy.
So, they don't have their shots, the continental lockdowns last longer and more of them die.
At the end of all this somebody should ask people like Macron and that tit from that German newspaper whether they might, perhaps, regret some of the rot that they've come out with. It's arguably worse than Trump's bleach remarks, which were, at least, transparently ridiculous.
They'd probably use confirmation bias to convince themselves the "cost" was worth it versus the many more lives that they suspect would be lost if the EU collapsed.2 -
There was an electricity overhead cable ad that stuck with me. Not sure if this is the exact one but I think it might be.Casino_Royale said:From the 1980s (or was it the 1970s?) the "Jiiiiimmy!!" frisbee electrocution advert was also terrifyingly effective on me.
I still want to cross the street whenever I see a substation.
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Indeed. In my case I'm relatively cautious so I might stall a bit longer if I think I'm going to get my jab imminently rather than having to wait until about September, but basically I'm waiting for better weather and for aged relatives to have second shots and then I'm going visiting. The only way I'm not doing that is if we're still all locked up and the penalties for travelling have been made so eyewatering that I daren't chance it. A £200 fixed penalty notice won't put me off.rottenborough said:
I think the public will make the decision for Johnson what ever the SAGE people are muttering in his ear. Once over 50s are done there will be so much boozy mixing between households that he may as well open the pubs.IanB2 said:Katy Balls: Once the impact of the vaccines is visible, MPs are banking on a shift in public opinion. “Once the over-50s are done,” says one, “the political room gets small for the prime minister. People will go about their business.” If Johnson deviates far from his original aim of a scientific cavalry stopping the NHS from being overwhelmed, he will have a lockdown rebellion on his hands.
People have had enough imho.0 -
If you want stunningly good practical effects zero and micro gravity, 2001 is hard to beat. Particularly awesome as it was made before the actual moon landings.Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.3 -
Thanks by the way to Fishing for an excellent header.
It's not my subject but it's well up to the current high standard the Site is achieving.1 -
NASA TV a gripping series of radio operators telling each other how good their reception is, whilst the lander slowly descends0
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That's very nice. I hope you always end that anecdote with 'And that, children, is why you should study physics instead of pure mathematics...'Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!1 -
Even if they name people who's identity has been protected by court order?ydoethur said:
Well, that’s absurd. They should be privileged given it is a law making body. People should be able to testify without fear or favour.Luckyguy1983 said:
Yes. It isn't the same with SP committees. I don't know why, but they have considerably less power than WM ones.ydoethur said:
They threatened him with prosecution over verbal evidence to a parliamentary committee?Luckyguy1983 said:
Let me try and help.rottenborough said:
Am I the only one who is completely lost with all this?Luckyguy1983 said:
So the one body that wasn't stuffed with SNP and Green members (an accidental omission one assumes), votes that there is no reason why documents that may be published legally, may not be published legally. Surprise surprise.CarlottaVance said:
1. This committee was set up to investigate why the initial complaints procedure (prior to the police case) against Alex Salmond was so mishandled that the Scottish Government ended up having to pay him £500,000 of taxpayers' money. It is lead by an SNP MSP, and has on it an SNP/Green majority of 5 to 4.
2. Alex Salmond's allegation (made very powerfully it must be said) is that the complaints were deliberately orchestrated, pushed, exaggerated, and to some extent invented, with the intention of destroying his reputation and preventing him ever returning to front-line politics. He also alleges that Nicola Sturgeon misled the SP about the nature of her meetings with him.
3. Salmond has submitted evidence of the above to the enquiry, but they have thus far refused to publish it (not parts of it - all of it), so it cannot form part of their report. They have also warned Salmond that if his verbal evidence strays into proscribed areas, he could be subject to criminal prosecution - without actually telling him what areas to stay clear of. The refusal to publish is based on a court order by Lady Dorrian, trial judge in Salmond's sexual assault case, protecting (I think) the complainants' identities.
4. The Spectator brought a legal case to modify this court order and prove that Salmond's evidence could indeed be published. Heard by Lady Dorrian, who stated that the Scottish Government's interpretation of her order to prevent Salmond's evidence being published was 'absurd'. She amended her court order to allow publication.
5. Despite this, and the evidence being published by the Spectator, the enquiry still refused to publish the evidence, but did agree to hand the issue to the SP procedural committee for adjudication.
6. This committee has now declared it is legal to publish. Salmond will now be able to testify without threat of criminal proceedings against him.
I thought that in itself would be illegal as such occasions are privileged?
Certainly Westminster has got very hot and bothered when threats are made to witnesses in their inquiries.0 -
It has its plus points.BluestBlue said:
That's very nice. I hope you always end that anecdote with 'And that, children, is why you should study physics instead of pure mathematics...'Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!0 -
FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!0 -
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Are we nearly there yet?
9000 miles to go.1 -
I guess Eulern something new every day...ydoethur said:
It has its plus points.BluestBlue said:
That's very nice. I hope you always end that anecdote with 'And that, children, is why you should study physics instead of pure mathematics...'Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!1 -
A different colleague, a few years earlier, had for complex reasons spent time in the ex-Soviet Union trying to persuade their nuclear scientists to come and work in the west rather than Iran or North Korea. One of his stories was that if the big one had kicked off we would have had much less to fear from the Soviet rockets than most people thought. In theory the were fuelled with Hydrogen Peroxide and alcohol, seemingly sensible choices as they remain liquid at room temperature. In practice having a huge tank of alcohol in the same silo as a bunch of very bored Russian soldiers was not such a bright idea: most of the rockets would not have made it out of the silos as the fuel had been drunk.ydoethur said:
I thought you were going to say ‘because the bloody things never work anyway.’Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!4 -
Off topic - I haven't watched La Liga since Sky lost the rights, but has it turned into a pub league? The results of Spanish teams this week have been rather poor.0
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Any YT link to stream the Mars landing?0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm0b_ijaYMQPhilip_Thompson said:Any YT link to stream the Mars landing?
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To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!0 -
Unfortunately most pupils tune out the "don't try this at home" part of any anecdote like that, so I can't risk it.BluestBlue said:
That's very nice. I hope you always end that anecdote with 'And that, children, is why you should study physics instead of pure mathematics...'Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!6 -
Thankseek said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm0b_ijaYMQPhilip_Thompson said:Any YT link to stream the Mars landing?
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While we ponder the release of Salmond's statement, let us recall that absolutely nothing whatsoever of the murky affair that led to the death of Carl Sergeant has ever been published.
Sargeant's family called for a public inquiry into the way he had been treated.
Carwyn Jones announced that an independent inquiry into his actions would take place.
It never took place. After Jack Sergeant inherited his father's seat, there was no desire on the part of Welsh Labour or the Sergeant family or the original anonymous complainant to do anything more.
The cry went up, "We must draw a line under the matter & move on".
An anonymous complaint was made, on the basis of which a minister was dismissed. He killed himself. And we all move on.
It is hard not to be disturbed by this "justice"-- whether Sergeant was guilty or no.9 -
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System is go
Telecoms is go
GDS is go
Power is go
Avionics is go
Flight software is go
Chief is go
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Even Tony Blair didn't win all his elections: he was the Labour candidate in the Beconsfield by-election in 1982.Black_Rook said:
To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!
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One of the many things the Conservative and Labour parties have in common is their desire to tell people how to live their lives.Stark_Dawning said:
That's a disaster - Back to Basics II. From now on, when so much as a Labour town councillor gets caught with his trousers down, it will all be Sir Keir's fault.3 -
Holiday, unless you own their house...Fysics_Teacher said:
What about if I go and stay with family in Devon? Does that count as a holiday or staycation?turbotubbs said:
I’ve as much chance of winning this one as I have of fixing official season dates, but for the last time a staycation is staying in your own home and taking day trips. A holiday in Cornwall, assuming you don’t live there, is called a holiday.IanB2 said:Global travel site Big 7 Travel has released the official 2021 list of the ’25 Best UK Staycations’; the top ten, in order:
Cornwall – England
The Lake District – England
Yorkshire Dales – England
Edinburgh – Scotland
Loch Lomond – Scotland
Isle of Wight – England
Norfolk Broads – England
Bath – England
Ballycastle – Northern Ireland
Manchester – England
6. Isle of Wight
This island off England’s southeast coast is famous for many things, from its stunning sandy beaches to its vibrant local culture and rich prehistoric history. One of the island’s biggest claims to fames is its plethora of fossils that have led to the discovery of more than 25 different dinosaurs that called Isle of Wight home in their day. For more recent history, there’s Queen Victoria’s royal former residence and Italian Renaissance dream in East Cowes, the Osborne House. And for a break from the tranquil sandy beaches, head to The Needles rock formation off the west end of the island.
11 - Cotswolds
12 - Snowdonia
13 - Scilly Isles
14 - Anglesey
15 - London (!)
16 - N Yorks moors
17 - Pembroke coast
18 - Orkney
19 - Brighton
20 - Skye
21 - Norwich (?)
22 - Inverness
23 - Cardiff
24 - Derry
25 - Oxford0 -
Well, it took him 22 years, but he got that seat in the end. It just required him to be the PM instead of the candidate.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!2 -
Yes, I have scatter plots of them, and you're right, they're a very useful check, together with coefficient t-stats and P values. They were no surprises, or I'd have noted it in the article.LostPassword said:Come back opinion polls all is forgiven!
Thanks to Fishing for a very interesting set of results, even if one does have to be very careful with small sample sizes.
I always prefer in such situations to see scatter plots of the raw data, as it can give one a feel as to the reliability of the computed statistics.
A couple of things that did surprise me in the data:
- we Brits are a gloomy bunch. Average net approval rating for the goverment since 1977 is -30%.
- generally the PM is more popular than his/her government, with the average net approval rating being -12%.1 -
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I'm actually watching NASA TV now...0
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I am well aware of that and was simply correcting the record re-Johnson.Fysics_Teacher said:
Even Tony Blair didn't win all his elections: he was the Labour candidate in the Beconsfield by-election in 1982.Black_Rook said:
To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!
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So you think Starmer is tanking at the moment rather than holding steady?TheScreamingEagles said:
Net satisfaction ratings.Philip_Thompson said:
Gross or net leadership ratings? Or preferred PM?TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, in the run up to the 2015 GE I did a piece which pointed out that the party that led on both the leadership ratings and best to run the economy metric won the general election.
The only curio was 1997 where the Tories led on the economic question but trailed Blair so much on the leadership to be odd, especially after Black Wednesday.
I might update that piece.
Currently both leaders can claim to be in the lead depending upon how you define lead.0 -
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Ownership of revolver being illegal in the UK?Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!0 -
Such a shame that it is one of the most boring films ever made.Fysics_Teacher said:
If you want stunningly good practical effects zero and micro gravity, 2001 is hard to beat. Particularly awesome as it was made before the actual moon landings.Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.2 -
You beat me to post the fact Ted Cruz both keeps on digging that ‘ole and keeps on giving entertainmentFloater said:
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It’s a touch overlong. I’m told it’s best consumed in combination with chemical enhancement.rcs1000 said:
Such a shame that it is one of the most boring films ever made.Fysics_Teacher said:
If you want stunningly good practical effects zero and micro gravity, 2001 is hard to beat. Particularly awesome as it was made before the actual moon landings.Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.0 -
Well, it is about a crack in reality.turbotubbs said:
It’s a touch overlong. I’m told it’s best consumed in combination with chemical enhancement.rcs1000 said:
Such a shame that it is one of the most boring films ever made.Fysics_Teacher said:
If you want stunningly good practical effects zero and micro gravity, 2001 is hard to beat. Particularly awesome as it was made before the actual moon landings.Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.0 -
2001? My memory of it is that it was absolutely brilliant. But it's some time ago.turbotubbs said:
It’s a touch overlong. I’m told it’s best consumed in combination with chemical enhancement.rcs1000 said:
Such a shame that it is one of the most boring films ever made.Fysics_Teacher said:
If you want stunningly good practical effects zero and micro gravity, 2001 is hard to beat. Particularly awesome as it was made before the actual moon landings.Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.1 -
Obvious BS....but also, during a pandemic, you are happy to take your daugthers to a country with rampant covid....not a very good parent, even if his excuse was true.Floater said:0 -
Definitely not the latter. Green screen is involved -it's the movement that's quite clever, and the hair. It's like they've not over-egged it. From 38.30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpeldoEzg2UCarnyx said:
I wonder if they simply hung them in the air and filmed straight up from the bottom to hide the suspension cables?Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.
Or underwater in a pool?1 -
The trial run does not really count. The betting implication imo is that Boris will want to retire undefeated (like Mrs Thatcher & Mr Blair) so will probably step down if the polls move against him in 2023-ish.justin124 said:
I am well aware of that and was simply correcting the record re-Johnson.Fysics_Teacher said:
Even Tony Blair didn't win all his elections: he was the Labour candidate in the Beconsfield by-election in 1982.Black_Rook said:
To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!
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Its still not illegal I think, just you have to have a some serious reasons. I once had the joy of legally owning a Taurus quite a while ago.rcs1000 said:
Ownership of revolver being illegal in the UK?Fysics_Teacher said:
A Russian friend of mine once told me that Russian roulette is not nearly as dangerous as simple maths makes it if you use a Russian revolver. Give it a good spin and the weight of the bullet will cause the chamber with the round in it to end up at the bottom, away from the hammer.TheScreamingEagles said:
No genuine.ydoethur said:
Russian roulette.TheScreamingEagles said:Can someone explain this joke to me please as I genuinely don't understand it.
Q: Apparently only one shot in six of the Sputnik V vaccinations work.
A: It's Russian rollout.
Please tell me that was a windup.
(Admittedly, it was not as good as that Mascarpone one you didn’t get a while back.)
For what I hope are obvious reasons don't try this!1 -
Might have said this before, but I've met Harwood a few times through student political stuff and the NUS, and he is an extremely career orientated guy. I was an NUS delegate at their conference in Glasgow a few years ago. I was chatting to Harwood and some far left activists occupied the stage in protest of something. Literally mid sentence in his conversation with me, he jumped up and began recording himself in front of the occupation to post on social media. I can't help but admire the hustle.HYUFD said:Tom Harwood moving to GBN
https://twitter.com/MediaGuido/status/1362461113628176390?s=20
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I'm totally with you - and even if you own their house (or more realistically you own a second 'holiday' home) - it is *still* a holiday and not a staycation. It's a 'holiday home' - not a 'staycation home'.turbotubbs said:
Holiday, unless you own their house...Fysics_Teacher said:
What about if I go and stay with family in Devon? Does that count as a holiday or staycation?turbotubbs said:
I’ve as much chance of winning this one as I have of fixing official season dates, but for the last time a staycation is staying in your own home and taking day trips. A holiday in Cornwall, assuming you don’t live there, is called a holiday.IanB2 said:Global travel site Big 7 Travel has released the official 2021 list of the ’25 Best UK Staycations’; the top ten, in order:
Cornwall – England
The Lake District – England
Yorkshire Dales – England
Edinburgh – Scotland
Loch Lomond – Scotland
Isle of Wight – England
Norfolk Broads – England
Bath – England
Ballycastle – Northern Ireland
Manchester – England
6. Isle of Wight
This island off England’s southeast coast is famous for many things, from its stunning sandy beaches to its vibrant local culture and rich prehistoric history. One of the island’s biggest claims to fames is its plethora of fossils that have led to the discovery of more than 25 different dinosaurs that called Isle of Wight home in their day. For more recent history, there’s Queen Victoria’s royal former residence and Italian Renaissance dream in East Cowes, the Osborne House. And for a break from the tranquil sandy beaches, head to The Needles rock formation off the west end of the island.
11 - Cotswolds
12 - Snowdonia
13 - Scilly Isles
14 - Anglesey
15 - London (!)
16 - N Yorks moors
17 - Pembroke coast
18 - Orkney
19 - Brighton
20 - Skye
21 - Norwich (?)
22 - Inverness
23 - Cardiff
24 - Derry
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Thatcher lost two elections at the start as well, in Dartford.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The trial run does not really count. The betting implication imo is that Boris will want to retire undefeated (like Mrs Thatcher & Mr Blair) so will probably step down if the polls move against him in 2023-ish.justin124 said:
I am well aware of that and was simply correcting the record re-Johnson.Fysics_Teacher said:
Even Tony Blair didn't win all his elections: he was the Labour candidate in the Beconsfield by-election in 1982.Black_Rook said:
To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Beaconsfield_by-election2 -
I still can't see how GB News and News UK TV are going to be viable.HYUFD said:Tom Harwood moving to GBN
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Indeed Obama lost his first Congressional primary race for Illinois' first district and George W Bush lost his 1978 election for Texas' 19th district and Bill Clinton lost his first re election battle for Arkansas governor.Fysics_Teacher said:
Even Tony Blair didn't win all his elections: he was the Labour candidate in the Beconsfield by-election in 1982.Black_Rook said:
To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Beaconsfield_by-election
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If Trump does not run again then I think Cruz would have a good chance of the nomination given the current views of most of the GOP baseydoethur said:
I believe he can in law do both, although he would have to resign his seat to become President so there seems little point.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
In practice, it would surely look really bad if he tried to hold his Senate seat as well. For a start, it would suggest he thought he had no chance of winning the Presidency. For another, it would tie him to Texas.
So I think he will, in the real world, have to make a decision.
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La Liga is where the PL is heading if the Champions League proposals are adopted.tlg86 said:Off topic - I haven't watched La Liga since Sky lost the rights, but has it turned into a pub league? The results of Spanish teams this week have been rather poor.
The tv money is spread equally and it means the big clubs, well big two, are all powerful.
However they are both up shit creek financially due to poor decision making and that has had impact both long term and short term on La Liga.
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When you say far leftist activists occupied the stage....you mean the president and their team took the stage to moderate a session?Bournville said:
Might have said this before, but I've met Harwood a few times through student political stuff and the NUS, and he is an extremely career orientated guy. I was an NUS delegate at their conference in Glasgow a few years ago. I was chatting to Harwood and some far left activists occupied the stage in protest of something. Literally mid sentence in his conversation with me, he jumped up and began recording himself in front of the occupation to post on social media. I can't help but admire the hustle.HYUFD said:Tom Harwood moving to GBN
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...isam said:
So you think Starmer is tanking at the moment rather than holding steady?TheScreamingEagles said:
Net satisfaction ratings.Philip_Thompson said:
Gross or net leadership ratings? Or preferred PM?TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, in the run up to the 2015 GE I did a piece which pointed out that the party that led on both the leadership ratings and best to run the economy metric won the general election.
The only curio was 1997 where the Tories led on the economic question but trailed Blair so much on the leadership to be odd, especially after Black Wednesday.
I might update that piece.
Currently both leaders can claim to be in the lead depending upon how you define lead.
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I've had a quick look at the Covid heat map and am pleased to observe that the wretched disease is still in steady retreat, is now below 100 cases per 100k in many if not most local authority areas in Southern England, and that my own neck of the woods is now down to 97.
That's the good news. The bad news is that, if the target of 1,000 cases per day is to be imposed then the average weekly case rate countrywide is going to have to be brought down not to 100 per 100k, or even 50 per 100k, but ten. Somebody with a better grasp of the numbers than I might pop up on here later and work out how long it's going to take to get the rate down that low; however, even if it's possible in the first place, I should imagine the answer to that is something along the lines of "a bloody long time."0 -
There's an 11 minute lag isn't there in the communications? So if EDL mode is triggered in 4 minutes the communication that its been triggered will arrive in quarter of an hour, right?IanB2 said:Entry, descent and landing (EDL) mode will be triggered in four minutes
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John Major lost 2 elections for the St Pancras seat in 1974 too, Cameron lost Stafford in 1997 as well which was technically a Labour gain and May lost Durham NW in 1992, coming in 3rd behind Tim Farron and she stood in the Barking by election in 1994 where she also came third before she was selected for Maidenhead in 1997.ydoethur said:
Thatcher lost two elections at the start as well, in Dartford.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The trial run does not really count. The betting implication imo is that Boris will want to retire undefeated (like Mrs Thatcher & Mr Blair) so will probably step down if the polls move against him in 2023-ish.justin124 said:
I am well aware of that and was simply correcting the record re-Johnson.Fysics_Teacher said:
Even Tony Blair didn't win all his elections: he was the Labour candidate in the Beconsfield by-election in 1982.Black_Rook said:
To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!
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They're aiming to shift the Overton window in the UK further to the right. I'd be surprised if they can't rustle up some cash for that.FrancisUrquhart said:
I still can't see how GB News and News UK TV are going to be viable.HYUFD said:Tom Harwood moving to GBN
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Ha - thanks, good article.Carnyx said:
PS http://wearecult.rocks/it-wont-be-easy-star-cops-thirty-years-onCarnyx said:
I wonder if they simply hung them in the air and filmed straight up from the bottom to hide the suspension cables?Luckyguy1983 said:I am watching an 80's sci fi programme called STAR COPS. It's a UK-made programme, starring David Calder as a reluctant 'space detective'. It's set in the near future (I think) - at any rate everybody is wearing 80's garb with very little alteration. It's not wholly bad - a police procedural set in space.
Its vision for the (near) future is quite interesting - there are stations in space, but there's still quite a lot of stuff we would recognise, zero gravity and old style space suits. Space travel is portrayed with quite a lot of privation and hardship as opposed to everyone whizzing everywhere and teleporting from planet to planet. Of course the Soviets still exist as everyone assumed they would!
Special effects are as ropey as you'd expect and use dodgy green screen heavily. However, their portrayal of zero gravity is quite clever - I'm not immediately sure how they've done it.
Or underwater in a pool?0 -
This was one of the years when the far left didn't think the far left President was far left enough. It ended in the President crying on stage because of the anonymous abuse she was being sent, IIRC.FrancisUrquhart said:
When you say far leftist activists occupied the stage....you mean the president and their team took the stage to moderate a session?Bournville said:
Might have said this before, but I've met Harwood a few times through student political stuff and the NUS, and he is an extremely career orientated guy. I was an NUS delegate at their conference in Glasgow a few years ago. I was chatting to Harwood and some far left activists occupied the stage in protest of something. Literally mid sentence in his conversation with me, he jumped up and began recording himself in front of the occupation to post on social media. I can't help but admire the hustle.HYUFD said:Tom Harwood moving to GBN
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A little bit, most LOTOs generally start of with good ratings usually caused by a higher number of DKs.isam said:
So you think Starmer is tanking at the moment rather than holding steady?TheScreamingEagles said:
Net satisfaction ratings.Philip_Thompson said:
Gross or net leadership ratings? Or preferred PM?TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, in the run up to the 2015 GE I did a piece which pointed out that the party that led on both the leadership ratings and best to run the economy metric won the general election.
The only curio was 1997 where the Tories led on the economic question but trailed Blair so much on the leadership to be odd, especially after Black Wednesday.
I might update that piece.
Currently both leaders can claim to be in the lead depending upon how you define lead.
There's been only one LOTO who had consistently positive ratings throughout their tenure, most LOTOs who go on to become PM have ups and down.
He's doing better than most LOTOs at this point in the cycle of leader/satisfaction ratings but meh in VI scores.
I genuinely don't know how much pandemic era polling can be used to compare to previous eras.0 -
They can promise whatever they like. They're never going to get the chance to do any of it.HYUFD said:0 -
Jimmy is more traumatic:Philip_Thompson said:
There was an electricity overhead cable ad that stuck with me. Not sure if this is the exact one but I think it might be.Casino_Royale said:From the 1980s (or was it the 1970s?) the "Jiiiiimmy!!" frisbee electrocution advert was also terrifyingly effective on me.
I still want to cross the street whenever I see a substation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei1_LwE_FzE
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Yeah but 30 Seconds To Mars not bad.LostPassword said:0 -
He is doing far better than Ted Heath was performing during the 1966 - 1970 Parliament.isam said:
So you think Starmer is tanking at the moment rather than holding steady?TheScreamingEagles said:
Net satisfaction ratings.Philip_Thompson said:
Gross or net leadership ratings? Or preferred PM?TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, in the run up to the 2015 GE I did a piece which pointed out that the party that led on both the leadership ratings and best to run the economy metric won the general election.
The only curio was 1997 where the Tories led on the economic question but trailed Blair so much on the leadership to be odd, especially after Black Wednesday.
I might update that piece.
Currently both leaders can claim to be in the lead depending upon how you define lead.0 -
I agree, compared to recent leaders of the opposition Starmer is certainly doing better than Hague and IDS and Miliband and Corbyn and Foot were at this stage certainly.TheScreamingEagles said:
A little bit, most LOTOs generally start of with good ratings usually caused by a higher number of DKs.isam said:
So you think Starmer is tanking at the moment rather than holding steady?TheScreamingEagles said:
Net satisfaction ratings.Philip_Thompson said:
Gross or net leadership ratings? Or preferred PM?TheScreamingEagles said:On topic, in the run up to the 2015 GE I did a piece which pointed out that the party that led on both the leadership ratings and best to run the economy metric won the general election.
The only curio was 1997 where the Tories led on the economic question but trailed Blair so much on the leadership to be odd, especially after Black Wednesday.
I might update that piece.
Currently both leaders can claim to be in the lead depending upon how you define lead.
There's been only one LOTO who had consistently positive ratings throughout their tenure, most LOTOs who go on to become PM have ups and down.
He's doing better than most LOTOs at this point in the cycle of leader/satisfaction ratings but meh in VI scores.
I genuinely don't know how much pandemic era polling can be used to compare to previous eras.
At the moment while he is clearly nowhere near Blair levels, he is doing at least as well as Howard, Kinnock and Cameron were just under a year in post.1 -
11 minute delay, each wayPhilip_Thompson said:
There's an 11 minute lag isn't there in the communications? So if EDL mode is triggered in 4 minutes the communication that its been triggered will arrive in quarter of an hour, right?IanB2 said:Entry, descent and landing (EDL) mode will be triggered in four minutes
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In the same way with Jeremy Corbyn out of the running Rebecca Long Bailey was the clear favourite to secure his backers given the views of Labour members?HYUFD said:
If Trump does not run again then I think Cruz would have a good chance of the nomination given the current views of most of the GOP baseydoethur said:
I believe he can in law do both, although he would have to resign his seat to become President so there seems little point.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
In practice, it would surely look really bad if he tried to hold his Senate seat as well. For a start, it would suggest he thought he had no chance of winning the Presidency. For another, it would tie him to Texas.
So I think he will, in the real world, have to make a decision.
I don’t think he has any chance of the nomination, still less the presidency, tbh, so he’d be better trying to hold his seat in the Senate.2 -
Presentation-wise, everything I've seen of GB news so far looks a bit tacky.HYUFD said:Tom Harwood moving to GBN
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Beto O'Rourke came close to bouncing "Visit Cancun" Ted back in 2018.Peter_the_Punter said:
Ted has upset some locals by legging it to Cancun during the big freeze. But it's Texas, so I guess they'll give him a pass on that, and also on his contribution to the recent failed insurrection.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
He may be a tosser, but he's their kind of tosser.
Cruz could lose Texas for US Senate in 2024 for same reason that Trumpsky lost re-election in 2020: the asshole factor.
BUT maybe instead he'll be just what the Republican Party is seeking for President in 2024?
Of course, a couple of months ago, some PBers were saying that Mike Pence was a shoo-in for THAT nomination!0 -
Corbyn led Labour to a landslide defeat in 2019, 12% behind the Tories, Trump was only 4% behind Biden last year which was closer to Corbyn's 2017 result than his 2019 result.ydoethur said:
In the same way with Jeremy Corbyn out of the running Rebecca Long Bailey was the clear favourite to secure his backers given the views of Labour members?HYUFD said:
If Trump does not run again then I think Cruz would have a good chance of the nomination given the current views of most of the GOP baseydoethur said:
I believe he can in law do both, although he would have to resign his seat to become President so there seems little point.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
In practice, it would surely look really bad if he tried to hold his Senate seat as well. For a start, it would suggest he thought he had no chance of winning the Presidency. For another, it would tie him to Texas.
So I think he will, in the real world, have to make a decision.
I don’t think he has any chance of the nomination, still less the presidency, tbh, so he’d be better trying to hold his seat in the Senate.
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Yes but again that does not count. It is usual for new candidates to start in impossible seats, and these trial runs can be ignored. Once Mrs T or whoever started winning, they kept winning. Mrs Thatcher wanted to call her memoirs Undefeated (remember she did win her final leadership ballot but not by the required margin).ydoethur said:
Thatcher lost two elections at the start as well, in Dartford.DecrepiterJohnL said:
The trial run does not really count. The betting implication imo is that Boris will want to retire undefeated (like Mrs Thatcher & Mr Blair) so will probably step down if the polls move against him in 2023-ish.justin124 said:
I am well aware of that and was simply correcting the record re-Johnson.Fysics_Teacher said:
Even Tony Blair didn't win all his elections: he was the Labour candidate in the Beconsfield by-election in 1982.Black_Rook said:
To be fair, the man is self evidently an able politician but I don't think that anybody's claimed that he's a bona fide worker of Christ-like miracles - which he would've had to be to win a Welsh seat off of Labour in 1997.justin124 said:FPT
Kinabalu said
' My brother's met him and says he has big charisma. Not a shock really when you think about it. He's won every election he's stood in, been London Mayor, Foreign Secretary, and is now PM, despite being palpably devoid of almost all the qualities needed to perform well in those jobs. So it can't be anything but charisma, can it?'
To correct one point, he has not been successful at every election he contested. He was heavily defeated at Clwyd South in 1997 - polling less than half the vote of his Labour opponent. That seat is now Tory-held - so his charisma failed to make much difference there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1982_Beaconsfield_by-election
Boris will, I think, also want to retire undefeated, mainly for ego but partly with half an eye on his value on the public speaking circuit here and in America.0 -
SKS is looking old, and a bit dull. It is a real pity he stood, Labour did have much better options.TheScreamingEagles said:
A little bit, most LOTOs generally start of with good ratings usually caused by a higher number of DKs.
There's been only one LOTO who had consistently positive ratings throughout their tenure, most LOTOs who go on to become PM have ups and down.
He's doing better than most LOTOs at this point in the cycle of leader/satisfaction ratings but meh in VI scores.
I genuinely don't know how much pandemic era polling can be used to compare to previous eras.
SKS seems to be following the Tony Blair picture-book on "How to Win a General Election?"
But, the thrill just isn't there, anymore.
It is the same moves, the same foreplay as Tony used, but no-one feels really excited by the prospect of precoital activity with a greying, stolid, almost sixty-year old, lawyer.
Hard not to forget, we could have had Lisa Nandy or Angela Rayner .... as LOTO
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Not me - I think I said back in November that Cruz will be the 2024 Republican candidate unless Trump stands (which I doubt will be the case).SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Beto O'Rourke came close to bouncing "Visit Cancun" Ted back in 2018.Peter_the_Punter said:
Ted has upset some locals by legging it to Cancun during the big freeze. But it's Texas, so I guess they'll give him a pass on that, and also on his contribution to the recent failed insurrection.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
He may be a tosser, but he's their kind of tosser.
Cruz could lose Texas for US Senate in 2024 for same reason that Trumpsky lost re-election in 2020: the asshole factor.
BUT maybe instead he'll be just what the Republican Party is seeking for President in 2024?
Of course, a couple of months ago, some PBers were saying that Mike Pence was a shoo-in for THAT nomination!0 -
Without Trump Pence is ahead with Cruz 4th, 1% behind Haley.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Beto O'Rourke came close to bouncing "Visit Cancun" Ted back in 2018.Peter_the_Punter said:
Ted has upset some locals by legging it to Cancun during the big freeze. But it's Texas, so I guess they'll give him a pass on that, and also on his contribution to the recent failed insurrection.SeaShantyIrish2 said:
Answer to your question is Yes, unless TX law has changed recently.TheScreamingEagles said:Just checked, Ted Cruz is up for re-election in 2024, is it possible for him to run for the GOP nomination and hold his seat?
Given how close it was last time, his sole focus should be on Texas.
Note that in 1960, Lyndon Johnson was on the Texas general election ballot twice, as candidate for re-election to US Senate AND as Democratic candidate for Vice President (as JFK's running mate). He was elected VP, so gave up senate seat.
In 1984, Lloyd Benson was also on the general election ballot twice in Lone Star State, running for re-election to US Senate and also for VP (on Dem ticket with Walter Mondale); since he was NOT elected VP, Benson stayed in the Senate.
Note that Texas law thus gives a sitting US Senator the chance of retaining their seat for another full term AND also running for President OR Vice President. LBJ won both elections, so could take his (obvious) choice. Lloyd Benson lost for VP (nationally AND in Texas) but was still able to retain his senate seat.
He may be a tosser, but he's their kind of tosser.
Cruz could lose Texas for US Senate in 2024 for same reason that Trumpsky lost re-election in 2020: the asshole factor.
BUT maybe instead he'll be just what the Republican Party is seeking for President in 2024?
Of course, a couple of months ago, some PBers were saying that Mike Pence was a shoo-in for THAT nomination!
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1356836849533284352?s=20
If Trump runs again though he is miles ahead
https://twitter.com/Politics_Polls/status/1361905464146075649?s=200
