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I just don't understand why Sturgeon Central would ramp the internal divisions up like this? Clearing the decks in advance of Eck's big day?CarlottaVance said:
No. They changed the rules so sitting MPs couldn't stand - a new and novel concept for the SNP - she would have had to quit the commons. Coincidentally, by a sheer fluke, this benefitted Angus Robertson ex-MP who by the most unlikely of circumstances happens to be on Team Nicola.Theuniondivvie said:
Nope, she pulled out of the Edinburgh Central candidate contest cos the rules weren’t fair or something.Gallowgate said:Isn't big JC QC running for Holyrood in the summer?
Election is beginning of May so not that far away.
Lesley Riddoch, Ruth Wishart, et al, all reaching for the smelling salts.0 -
Your crystal ball is working well this afternoon..kle4 said:
She'll become briefly very popular with opponents if she were to become one of those rent a quote politicians broadcasters use when they want someone to criticise their own parties .Theuniondivvie said:
‘Sokay, WM increasingly irrelevant according to an authoritative source.Burgessian said:
Jeezo.RobD said:
What was she sacked for? I thought she was one of the better SNP MPs.Scott_xP said:
That's a major escalation of hostilities in the civil war.
Appreciate that this will likely pass non-Scot PBers by, but defenestrating Cherry of all people is an extraordinarily provocative thing to do.
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No wonder they are in such a bad place.Andy_JS said:The UK spent more than the entire EU on vaccine development according to this:
“The UK committed £1.67billion on Covid vaccines before it was known whether they would be effective - more than the £1.57billion the EU spent on behalf of 27 countries, with Britain spending £25.00 per capita compared to £3.51 for Brussels. “
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9209689/How-EU-failed-plan-vaccines-rollout.html3 -
In a sub-study of 6,000 volunteers in South Africa, Stoffels said, the J&J vaccine was 89% effective at preventing severe disease. In the South Africa portion of the trial, 95% of cases were infections with the South African variant.FrancisUrquhart said:
“There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it."Anabobazina said:Cue yet more hysteria on PB about variants
MinkKent
South Africa
For reference: “There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it. Virus variation and mutation occurs naturally. The more we suppress new variants the more we will avoid variants which cause problems for treatment or vaccination.”
That is very carefully worded....regulated vaccine...we know one of the most recent to announce was nowhere near as effective against it AND (this is very important) as part of their study they found significant numbers of people who had been reinfected.
“I am overwhelmed by the fact that this vaccine protected against severe disease even in South Africa,” said Glenda Gray, the joint lead investigator of the South African vaccine trial.
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It isn't. You're talking complete and utter balderdash.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
The Government base their statistics on a weekly rate and yesterday's figure is actually massively encouraging.
A great lesson: when you're in a hole (i.e. wrong) don't keep digging
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No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.4 -
That she hasn't got a clue what she's talking aboutMalmesbury said:
What does this pattern tell you?Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
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My guess would be that the government probably fairly confident we will have to do at least all the oldies again come the winter.TimT said:
Robert, perhaps the reasoning is to build a capacity and expertise to make multiple different types of vaccine:rcs1000 said:https://twitter.com/KwasiKwarteng/status/1356148565807149058
Ummm, I'm a big fan of Kwasi, but Valneva isn't going to be ready until the last quarter of 2021, so I'm not entirely sure why we're doing this.
1. Oxford/AZN gives us the ability (capacity and expertise) to make genetically modified adenovirus vaccines
2. Making Pfizer vaccines idc gives us the ability to make mRNA vaccines
3. Making Novavax vaccines gives us the ability to make protein/adjuvant vaccines
4. Valneva gives us the ability to make inactivated virus vaccine (the only such instance against COVID in Europe).
So you can see, it is not just a portfolio of COVID vaccines we are building up, but a portfolio of different types of vaccines and their production - which gives us more ways of responding to future pandemics too.1 -
No link to SKS there then.....Casino_Royale said:The Brittas Empire was a somewhat mediocre 1990s sitcom. Nothing like as funny as Men Behaving Badly or Red Dwarf, for example.
I love Chris Barrie, but I couldn't get past his annoying accent.2 -
The NHS has updated its death stats.
As of January 28, some 531 healthy under 60s have died from Covid-19 in England.
Compare this cohort to 60+ with pre-existing conditions: 62,207.
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I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.2 -
A dead cat to distract from both the shocking vaccine figures in Scotland?Burgessian said:I just don't understand why Sturgeon Central would ramp the internal divisions up like this? Clearing the decks in advance of Eck's big day?
Lesley Riddoch, Ruth Wishart, et al, all reaching for the smelling salts.
Or the last desperate acts from a dying regime?
Take your pick. Grab your popcorn...0 -
And that 350k would represent a significant increase on the corresponding day of the previous cycleMysticrose said:
That she hasn't got a clue what she's talking aboutMalmesbury said:
What does this pattern tell you?Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.0 -
I think the stat we all want to know is how many healthy under 60s have now been left with a serious underlying condition after having covid. At the moment it is all anacedotal.Anabobazina said:The NHS has updated its death stats.
As of January 28, some 531 healthy under 60s have died from Covid-19 in England.
Compare this cohort to 60+ with pre-existing conditions: 62,207.0 -
No, it's wouldn't even be below the "required daily rate" (assuming you're referring to the rather stretching mid-Feb target), even if every day from now until mid-Feb was also a Sunday.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.0 -
Scottish Government will be hoping that the opening of large centres in the big cities give a significant boost to overall numbers -would be very good for them (and us) to see Scotland topping the home nation table for a while. If not, there's always the army again, but for political reasons I doubt it's a first resort.0
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Don't focus on one day reporting figures - get the 7 day average. Steadily increasing over time.Anabobazina said:NerysHughes said:
Weekend numbersAnabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
Indeed, but well below the required rate.1 -
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Daft accent. Daft lop-sided haircut. Anal attention to detail.MarqueeMark said:
No link to SKS there then.....Casino_Royale said:The Brittas Empire was a somewhat mediocre 1990s sitcom. Nothing like as funny as Men Behaving Badly or Red Dwarf, for example.
I love Chris Barrie, but I couldn't get past his annoying accent.
Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen SKS and Chris Barrie in the same room...?0 -
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
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It occurs to me that for real skip fire quality Cherry might stand on the list for the ISP (not sure how far they're along the line on confirming candidates) on an explicitly Salmondite ticket, he's been suspiciously quiet on endorsing any one person or party for May. Of course it would end any hopes of leading the SNP and FM-ship, and would be a big gamble (pollster aren't even mentioning ISP on their Scottish polls so far).
Not likely but the days of political sure things are long gone.1 -
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.1 -
He couldn't resist could he....
BBC News - Covid: Boris Johnson 'optimistic' about people's summer holiday prospects
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-558902241 -
That's the baby.Nigelb said:
...It seems to me that people are first choosing a mood or attitude, and then finding the disparate views which match to that mood and, to themselves, justifying those views by the mood. I call this the “fallacy of mood affiliation,” and it is one of the most underreported fallacies in human reasoning...kinabalu said:
People lapping up Cyclefree's subject matter expertise on the AZ vaccine contract yet not so happy with yours on the food industry. Wonder why this is?RochdalePioneers said:
We've managed, albeit with "fresh" not exactly the correct description for produce that's struggling to stay in life at times. And why have we done so? Because we haven't seen the endless queues that everyone including the government expected. And why haven't we done so? Because we have largely stopped importing and exporting. With traffic levels far lower than normal the trucks with fresh aren't getting stuck.Luckyguy1983 said:
I'm sure it has reduced as you say. You did also say that we would have food shortages - particularly in fresh produce. Is that still your prediction? Update: supermarket shelves in my part of Scotland's snowy wastes are still very much groaning with fresh produce.RochdalePioneers said:
Wowsers. To everyone with eyes and a brain the border has been reduced to this uncomfortable quiet where there's only a fraction of normal traffic and half of that is empty vehicles.Philip_Thompson said:
So fill in the SPS and move on.RochdalePioneers said:
Oh luv, the problem at the moment is the ludicrous amount of SPS red tape, none of which would exist if we remained in the EEA.Philip_Thompson said:
Considering that the EEA is outside of the Customs Union and deals with customs paperwork too which is what RP keeps complaining about - I'm not convinced he understands the difference either.felix said:
I think the EEA problem may be 'free movement' - not a problem for me but a biggy for those who voted Leave.RochdalePioneers said:
For some reason the catastrofuck of the EU vaccine negotiation keeps being used as proof that we were right to leave the EEA. I don't get it, unless like Big G they don't know the difference.felix said:
Someone was muttering something about 'solidarity' earlier...Mysticrose said:Apologies if this has already been posted. The Chief Political Correspondent for Germany's biggest newspaper:
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/status/1356149484783366145?s=20
EEA+CU doesn't exist. Well it does, its called EU membership.
Do try and keep up.
You were convinced, absolutely conviced, that customs paperwork was going to bring the border to a crashing halt. It hasn't happened. So now complaints are boiled down to moaning about firms getting used to SPS red tape. Struggling to give a damn about that to be frank. If that's all you've got to complain about it isn't very much.
You remember Multiplicity? You need to be like Michael Keaton. Go clone yourself. Then you can go and fix all the problems by a combination of "nope, no problem here", "market forces", "go buy something else" or some other fantastic solution.
Go on Philip. Go clone yourself.
Its the early months of WWII from a trade perspective. We've declared war (on ourselves) and we know its coming even if its still sunny and you can get about without fear of your life. As we whittle our way down through the stockpiles we'll need to import more again. Which creates the problem that not even the vast new truck parks will solve.
There is something quite funny though in your post. "The border will stop functioning" I said. Not sending trucks through it is it not functioning. Yet "there are no queues so everything is fine" is the response.
Yes. Its all fine. As with Philip you absolutely know more about it than the producers, the wholesalers, the retails, the exporters, the logistics industry and indeed our own government. Perhaps you need to go clone yourself as well.
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/03/the-fallacy-of-mood-affiliation.html0 -
Mysticrose said:
It isn't. You're talking complete and utter balderdash.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
The Government base their statistics on a weekly rate and yesterday's figure is actually massively encouraging.
A great lesson: when you're in a hole (i.e. wrong) don't keep digging
I don't deny this, nor am I predicting that we will miss the target.
I think we'll beat the target.
I am merely saying that today's return was behind the required daily rate, which is true.
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Sounds like hed fit in well with today's EC.Scott_xP said:1 -
But if each day this cycle is 150k higher than the corresponding day of last week, as this one is, then it will mean this week will see about 1 million more jabs than last week.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
It is pointless to try to predict precisely, but clearly the weekly trend - supply restraints notwithstanding - is still quite steeply up.0 -
Florida is the new Sweden.FrancisUrquhart said:He couldn't resist could he....
BBC News - Covid: Boris Johnson 'optimistic' about people's summer holiday prospects
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55890224
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If you want to continue to defend your flatly wrong attempt to look at a single day's data, you should have looked at the cumulative position on that day, which is unequivocally ahead of target.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
All the numbers in my post were for England only, and the target for England, which we will utterly smash, is 12m by mid Feb.
Details all here given you seem a bit behind the facts -
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-covid-19-vaccines-delivery-plan/uk-covid-19-vaccines-delivery-plan1 -
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.0 -
Good. It's important that there is pressure to remove the restrictions.FrancisUrquhart said:He couldn't resist could he....
BBC News - Covid: Boris Johnson 'optimistic' about people's summer holiday prospects
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-558902240 -
After putting Hancock's gas at a peep, it's time the Trusster took on BJ.FrancisUrquhart said:He couldn't resist could he....
BBC News - Covid: Boris Johnson 'optimistic' about people's summer holiday prospects
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55890224
"Summer holiday getaway hopes dashed as minister warns travel restrictions won’t be eased for ‘foreseeable future’"
https://tinyurl.com/yxv8tucm0 -
I have used that phrase - it would not have even crossed my mind as being problematical.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
But hey - so easy nowadays to claim upset2 -
Gone up about 700k per week the last 3 weeks I think. People seem pretty confident way more can be done, even possibly double the current rate, once stocks are there.TimT said:
But if each day this cycle is 150k higher than the corresponding day of last week, as this one is, then it will mean this week will see about 1 million more jabs than last week.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
It is pointless to try to predict precisely, but clearly the weekly trend - supply restraints notwithstanding - is still quite steeply up.0 -
No, bad.Anabobazina said:
Good. It's important that there is pressure to remove the restrictions.FrancisUrquhart said:He couldn't resist could he....
BBC News - Covid: Boris Johnson 'optimistic' about people's summer holiday prospects
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55890224
There should be pressure to remove domestic restrictions but having summer holidays is a bloody stupid idea that risks reimporting the virus, bringing in a third wave and bringing restrictions back.
Abolish all restrictions apart from quarantine is a far better solution.0 -
ZOE cases estimate is down 10% in the last 2 days, so no sign of an end to the current collapse in case numbers (which is actually accelerating in percentage terms, rather encouragingly 3 weeks after the vaccine roll out really kicked off).0
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Required daily rate as of this morning was 395k/day.maaarsh said:
If you want to continue to defend your flatly wrong attempt to look at a single day's data, you should have looked at the cumulative position on that day, which is unequivocally ahead of target.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
All the numbers in my post were for England only, and the target for England, which we will utterly smash, is 12m by mid Feb.
Details all here given you seem a bit behind the facts -
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/uk-covid-19-vaccines-delivery-plan/uk-covid-19-vaccines-delivery-plan
That will be slightly higher now after we fell short today.
My analysis remains the same:
The Valentine's Day target is the right target.
We can and should beat it.
But let's keep the pressure on.0 -
All true – and good news.TimT said:
But if each day this cycle is 150k higher than the corresponding day of last week, as this one is, then it will mean this week will see about 1 million more jabs than last week.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
It is pointless to try to predict precisely, but clearly the weekly trend - supply restraints notwithstanding - is still quite steeply up.
But we fell slightly short today – let's not repeat that too often and make sure we smash this target.0 -
There are a few companies in trouble....Floater said:
I have used that phrase - it would not have even crossed my mind as being problematical.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
But hey - so easy nowadays to claim upset
https://happycampers.is/
https://happycampershire.com/
You can even send you kids to the happy campers club.1 -
What I find so objectionable about the EU Commission's risible (and continuing) attempts to deflect attention from their own failings is that their own vaccine programmes would hardly be off the ground now if the UK's investment hadn't given the development process a head start, allowing lessons to be learnt in production and mistakes to be avoided in the light of experience. The EU should be thanking the UK for our taxpayers efforts in funding applied research and development to their ultimate benefit.Andy_JS said:The UK spent more than the entire EU on vaccine development according to this:
“The UK committed £1.67billion on Covid vaccines before it was known whether they would be effective - more than the £1.57billion the EU spent on behalf of 27 countries, with Britain spending £25.00 per capita compared to £3.51 for Brussels. “
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9209689/How-EU-failed-plan-vaccines-rollout.html7 -
Ah, the answer:Burgessian said:
I just don't understand why Sturgeon Central would ramp the internal divisions up like this? Clearing the decks in advance of Eck's big day?CarlottaVance said:
No. They changed the rules so sitting MPs couldn't stand - a new and novel concept for the SNP - she would have had to quit the commons. Coincidentally, by a sheer fluke, this benefitted Angus Robertson ex-MP who by the most unlikely of circumstances happens to be on Team Nicola.Theuniondivvie said:
Nope, she pulled out of the Edinburgh Central candidate contest cos the rules weren’t fair or something.Gallowgate said:Isn't big JC QC running for Holyrood in the summer?
Election is beginning of May so not that far away.
Lesley Riddoch, Ruth Wishart, et al, all reaching for the smelling salts.
Ruth Davidson
@RuthDavidsonMSP
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As yesterday saw a new low for vaccinations and Scotland officially having the lowest rate of any of the nations and regions of the UK, the dead cat strategy is enacted. Watch all columnist rush to dissect the Joanna Cherry sacking, rather than SNP vaccine failure....1 -
#10 PR machine has certainly stepped up a notch recently,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9210297/Covid-UK-Boris-Johnson-reveals-spoke-Capt-Sir-Tom-Moores-family-night.html
In the recent past, too often, no not called, no not taken any calls, been busy.1 -
The buck doesn't stop here.
https://twitter.com/Brexit/status/13562532640655319062 -
Where's the unity?williamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
twitter.com/Brexit/status/13562532640655319061 -
Embarassing brass neck. Everyone can see your pants round your ankles and still you keep posting this pap.Anabobazina said:
All true – and good news.TimT said:
But if each day this cycle is 150k higher than the corresponding day of last week, as this one is, then it will mean this week will see about 1 million more jabs than last week.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
It is pointless to try to predict precisely, but clearly the weekly trend - supply restraints notwithstanding - is still quite steeply up.
But we fell slightly short today – let's not repeat that too often and make sure we smash this target.
We will, in your fantasy world, 'fall short' every Sunday and Monday, and yet are clearly on track to hit the target several days early. If only there were some explanation...
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Well done for saying 'skip fire' not 'dumperfire'.Theuniondivvie said:It occurs to me that for real skip fire quality Cherry might stand on the list for the ISP (not sure how far they're along the line on confirming candidates) on an explicitly Salmondite ticket, he's been suspiciously quiet on endorsing any one person or party for May. Of course it would end any hopes of leading the SNP and FM-ship, and would be a big gamble (pollster aren't even mentioning ISP on their Scottish polls so far).
Not likely but the days of political sure things are long gone.0 -
I read that as his talking about hols in the UK. I agree with you about foreign trips.Philip_Thompson said:
No, bad.Anabobazina said:
Good. It's important that there is pressure to remove the restrictions.FrancisUrquhart said:He couldn't resist could he....
BBC News - Covid: Boris Johnson 'optimistic' about people's summer holiday prospects
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55890224
There should be pressure to remove domestic restrictions but having summer holidays is a bloody stupid idea that risks reimporting the virus, bringing in a third wave and bringing restrictions back.
Abolish all restrictions apart from quarantine is a far better solution.1 -
We'll repeat it every Monday, because that is the cycle. Absurd not to take day of the week into account.Anabobazina said:
All true – and good news.TimT said:
But if each day this cycle is 150k higher than the corresponding day of last week, as this one is, then it will mean this week will see about 1 million more jabs than last week.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
It is pointless to try to predict precisely, but clearly the weekly trend - supply restraints notwithstanding - is still quite steeply up.
But we fell slightly short today – let's not repeat that too often and make sure we smash this target.
50% growth on last Monday's figures nearly. Fantastic job, lets keep that up. If that continued we'd be on 900k in a day by next Saturday.1 -
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
Edit: perhaps that's analysing it too deeply and in fairness I don't know who Mr Clarke is or at least what his track record is, so it may be unfair to even suggest that. But, in general terms, there is a recognised strategy by the right to wind up the woke and then blame the latter by using sort of grey area terms.0 -
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Today's rate was below the required daily rate, which is what I said in my OP. Which is correct. And, to my mind, a little bit disappointing.maaarsh said:
Embarassing brass neck. Everyone can see your pants round your ankles and still you keep posting this pap.Anabobazina said:
All true – and good news.TimT said:
But if each day this cycle is 150k higher than the corresponding day of last week, as this one is, then it will mean this week will see about 1 million more jabs than last week.Anabobazina said:
No, the rate today was behind the required rate.maaarsh said:
No, we're not behind the required rate, at all.Anabobazina said:
Indeed. But below the required daily rate by a fair chalk.maaarsh said:
It's up 43% on last week and we're ahead of schedule on a rolling 7 day basis...Anabobazina said:
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.FrancisUrquhart said:Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Disappointing.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
England is now on 9.08m people having had their first vaccine, with 2.35m in the last week and 2 full weeks until the deadline. Carrying on at the same pace with no increase could get them to 13.8m people by Valentine's day, vs the published target of 12m.
We are comfortably ahead of schedule and clearing going to beat the target.
(P.S. The overall target is 15m I think.)
https://www.gponline.com/uk-covid-19-vaccine-programme-halfway-15m-mid-february-target/article/1705853
It is pointless to try to predict precisely, but clearly the weekly trend - supply restraints notwithstanding - is still quite steeply up.
But we fell slightly short today – let's not repeat that too often and make sure we smash this target.
We will, in your fantasy world, 'fall short' every Sunday and Monday, and yet are clearly on track to hit the target several days early. If only there were some explanation...
However, I firmly believe we will beat the target, as I have also said several times.
There can be no excuses for missing it.
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In Florida now cases are falling and
every Floridian has a right to operate a business.
every Floridian has a right to work.
every Floridian child has a right to an in person education.
If you are a restaurant worker they have your back.
If you are a hairdresser they have your back.
Go Florida!
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Given it all seems to be about Salmond v Sturgeon I don't see a reason to drag LGBT into it deliberately.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.0 -
I expect Q2 growth will be much better in the UK than in Florida, what do you say?contrarian said:In Florida now cases are falling and
every Floridian has a right to operate a business.
every Floridian has a right to work.
every Floridian child has a right to an in person education.
If you are a restaurant worker they have your back.
If you are a hairdresser they have your back.
Go Florida!0 -
It's not, actually, about that pair, at least primarily. There are other issues, and one has been a serious disagreement over gender reassignment and the appropriate legislation for some years now.Philip_Thompson said:
Given it all seems to be about Salmond v Sturgeon I don't see a reason to drag LGBT into it deliberately.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.0 -
Is it? I thought it was all about Salmond. I clearly need to read up further (seriously). But then, I didn't even know Cherry was gay.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
/Crawls back under the rock I've apparently been living under.2 -
Rule 1 of VDL club iswilliamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
https://twitter.com/Brexit/status/1356253264065531906
1) Blame a subordinate. A specific subordinate
She has done this multiple times in her career.3 -
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Her credibility is shot. She should resign, but almost certainly will not.williamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
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Maybe but perhaps H1 growth not so much.Philip_Thompson said:
I expect Q2 growth will be much better in the UK than in Florida, what do you say?contrarian said:In Florida now cases are falling and
every Floridian has a right to operate a business.
every Floridian has a right to work.
every Floridian child has a right to an in person education.
If you are a restaurant worker they have your back.
If you are a hairdresser they have your back.
Go Florida!
And Floridian children are in a way better place than their British counterparts. Way better.0 -
The problem is this time there is no where to shuffle her off to.Malmesbury said:
Rule 1 of VDL club iswilliamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
https://twitter.com/Brexit/status/1356253264065531906
1) Blame a subordinate. A specific subordinate
She has done this multiple times in her career.0 -
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The JCVI seem confident the strategy is working. No doubt it'll be very clear in a few weeks who is right and who is wrong, politicians or scientists.alex_ said:2 -
I'm sure part of it is about Mr S - but by no means all of it. Also to do with approaches to indyref 2, and so on.Selebian said:
Is it? I thought it was all about Salmond. I clearly need to read up further (seriously). But then, I didn't even know Cherry was gay.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
/Crawls back under the rock I've apparently been living under.0 -
Interesting optics. The lead story in the German tabloids yesterday was Jens Spahn saying they should have ordered vaccines sooner.
https://twitter.com/SKyriakidesEU/status/13562558896411033630 -
Boris Johnson 'confident' vaccines provide protection against all variants
Starts sealing off the house from the outside world.0 -
Meanwhile, in markets world, it seems the GameStop rampers are going after Silver...0
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Time to leave her in a room with a bottle of Nepalese "Everest" Whisky and a revolverH&K VP9FrancisUrquhart said:
The problem is this time there is no where to shuffle her off to.Malmesbury said:
Rule 1 of VDL club iswilliamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
https://twitter.com/Brexit/status/1356253264065531906
1) Blame a subordinate. A specific subordinate
She has done this multiple times in her career.0 -
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Dumpster.Luckyguy1983 said:
Well done for saying 'skip fire' not 'dumperfire'.Theuniondivvie said:It occurs to me that for real skip fire quality Cherry might stand on the list for the ISP (not sure how far they're along the line on confirming candidates) on an explicitly Salmondite ticket, he's been suspiciously quiet on endorsing any one person or party for May. Of course it would end any hopes of leading the SNP and FM-ship, and would be a big gamble (pollster aren't even mentioning ISP on their Scottish polls so far).
Not likely but the days of political sure things are long gone.0 -
For real old fashioned savour, try 'bing fire'.Luckyguy1983 said:
Well done for saying 'skip fire' not 'dumperfire'.Theuniondivvie said:It occurs to me that for real skip fire quality Cherry might stand on the list for the ISP (not sure how far they're along the line on confirming candidates) on an explicitly Salmondite ticket, he's been suspiciously quiet on endorsing any one person or party for May. Of course it would end any hopes of leading the SNP and FM-ship, and would be a big gamble (pollster aren't even mentioning ISP on their Scottish polls so far).
Not likely but the days of political sure things are long gone.1 -
RochdalePioneers said:
Meanwhile, in markets world, it seems the GameStop rampers are going after Silver...
Nate? What's he done to upset them?RochdalePioneers said:Meanwhile, in markets world, it seems the GameStop rampers are going after Silver...
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Why should she? The only way she can be forced out is if every single EU Commissioner is also removed. She got there as an already failed politician on the back of a rubber-stamped backroom deal and has 5 years to do her worst.Peter_the_Punter said:
Her credibility is shot. She should resign, but almost certainly will not.williamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
https://twitter.com/Brexit/status/13562532640655319060 -
West Midlands was worst-hit part of UK in first Covid-19 wave
ONS reveals impact of coronavirus pandemic on regions, with Scotland the worst-affected nation
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/feb/01/west-midlands-uk-covid-19-regions-ons-scotland0 -
Yep, indyref 2 differences, I was at least aware of that too. The whole LGBT row had passed me by thought (just done some Googling)Carnyx said:
I'm sure part of it is about Mr S - but by no means all of it. Also to do with approaches to indyref 2, and so on.Selebian said:
Is it? I thought it was all about Salmond. I clearly need to read up further (seriously). But then, I didn't even know Cherry was gay.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
/Crawls back under the rock I've apparently been living under.0 -
Their ability to impact that market much seems pretty limited to me. They have, however, already managed a successful pump-and-dump on Ripple (2nd tier cryptocurrency, for those wondering), which has already doubled in price and is now on the way back down.RochdalePioneers said:Meanwhile, in markets world, it seems the GameStop rampers are going after Silver...
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I'm gay and I didn't spot it either. It's a bit of an outdated reference linked to camp pf course but really....Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.1 -
The knot being that the SNP put reform of the GRA in the manifesto then the transphobes in the party throwing a shit fit when the party attempted to implement the manifesto commitment.SandyRentool said:So Sturgeon and Cherry isn't a successful combination. Unlike Gammon and Pineapple.
And why are so many political parties tying themselves in knots over trans issues?
(BTW, tying a knot in it is not a recommended procedure for gender reassignment.)
It makes wonder what other parts of the manifesto they are against? Independence maybe?0 -
There's correlation: the angry old men in a hurry, let's call them the Wings Over Scotland faction, also tend to be obsessed by trans people using changing rooms.Selebian said:
Is it? I thought it was all about Salmond. I clearly need to read up further (seriously). But then, I didn't even know Cherry was gay.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
/Crawls back under the rock I've apparently been living under.1 -
The Novavax vaccine has got ~60% efficacy against SA COVID but has ~90% efficacy against the prevalent strains here. It's still ok, but we won't be able to go back to "normal" if it became the dominant strain because our herd immunity from vaccines may not be enough to prevent mass hospitalisations.Anabobazina said:Cue yet more hysteria on PB about variants
MinkKent
South Africa
For reference: “There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it. Virus variation and mutation occurs naturally. The more we suppress new variants the more we will avoid variants which cause problems for treatment or vaccination.”
It's definitely an argument in favour of completely closing the border to all travel except freight and medical staff.0 -
I wondered if that was a typo for 'bin', but: "a heap, especially of metallic ore or of waste from a mine".Carnyx said:
For real old fashioned savour, try 'bing fire'.Luckyguy1983 said:
Well done for saying 'skip fire' not 'dumperfire'.Theuniondivvie said:It occurs to me that for real skip fire quality Cherry might stand on the list for the ISP (not sure how far they're along the line on confirming candidates) on an explicitly Salmondite ticket, he's been suspiciously quiet on endorsing any one person or party for May. Of course it would end any hopes of leading the SNP and FM-ship, and would be a big gamble (pollster aren't even mentioning ISP on their Scottish polls so far).
Not likely but the days of political sure things are long gone.
Next we'll be talking about slag fires!0 -
Whereas Hammond's position was just to give away all the money before the real negotiations had even started.Scott_xP said:0 -
It more about Sturgeon assuring her succession as it looks like she may be gone sooner rather than laterSelebian said:
Yep, indyref 2 differences, I was at least aware of that too. The whole LGBT row had passed me by thought (just done some Googling)Carnyx said:
I'm sure part of it is about Mr S - but by no means all of it. Also to do with approaches to indyref 2, and so on.Selebian said:
Is it? I thought it was all about Salmond. I clearly need to read up further (seriously). But then, I didn't even know Cherry was gay.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
/Crawls back under the rock I've apparently been living under.0 -
So they screwed up their export ban by not looking or asking about the specific details and if there was any blockers to the plan.Malmesbury said:
Rule 1 of VDL club iswilliamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
https://twitter.com/Brexit/status/1356253264065531906
1) Blame a subordinate. A specific subordinate
She has done this multiple times in her career.
That doesn't explain the screw up over the vaccines (the lack of which is why they need to try to stop the export of vaccines already bought and paid for by another country).0 -
As a quick aside, the gay, bi etc History Month nonsense did make me smile wryly.
Teaching Greek and Roman history for only 1 out of 12 months seems rather silly.
Not to mention the Theban Sacred Band:
https://thaddeusthesixth.blogspot.com/2011/06/elite-soldiers-of-ancient-world.html0 -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9209583/Is-Kent-variant-REALLY-deadlier-original-Covid-strains.html
Kent variant may be no more deadly after all, despite many on here repeating project terror as gospel.
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Silver is rather different to Gamestop. Because there's lots of new silver "capacity" that can be brought on stream by buying things with silver in them, and then melting them down.RochdalePioneers said:Meanwhile, in markets world, it seems the GameStop rampers are going after Silver...
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Bings were waste tips from coal mines, at least hereabouts. Sometimes they would catch fire and burn slowly for years, with the small percentage of coal they contained.Selebian said:
I wondered if that was a typo for 'bin', but: "a heap, especially of metallic ore or of waste from a mine".Carnyx said:
For real old fashioned savour, try 'bing fire'.Luckyguy1983 said:
Well done for saying 'skip fire' not 'dumperfire'.Theuniondivvie said:It occurs to me that for real skip fire quality Cherry might stand on the list for the ISP (not sure how far they're along the line on confirming candidates) on an explicitly Salmondite ticket, he's been suspiciously quiet on endorsing any one person or party for May. Of course it would end any hopes of leading the SNP and FM-ship, and would be a big gamble (pollster aren't even mentioning ISP on their Scottish polls so far).
Not likely but the days of political sure things are long gone.
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That's an excellent point to consider.megalomaniacs4u said:
It more about Sturgeon assuring her succession as it looks like she may be gone sooner rather than laterSelebian said:
Yep, indyref 2 differences, I was at least aware of that too. The whole LGBT row had passed me by thought (just done some Googling)Carnyx said:
I'm sure part of it is about Mr S - but by no means all of it. Also to do with approaches to indyref 2, and so on.Selebian said:
Is it? I thought it was all about Salmond. I clearly need to read up further (seriously). But then, I didn't even know Cherry was gay.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
/Crawls back under the rock I've apparently been living under.0 -
Seems even the EC can have too much 'solidarity' if there's a job at stake. How are they doing today? still smashing up Africa?williamglenn said:The buck doesn't stop here.
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Yes because Söder has taken that road and Spahn has to follow or he'll look completely out of touch. Söder may be able to ride this incompetence from Spahn, VdL and Merkel all the way to the chancellery.williamglenn said:Interesting optics. The lead story in the German tabloids yesterday was Jens Spahn saying they should have ordered vaccines sooner.
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'drag LGBT' - have you no shame?Philip_Thompson said:
Given it all seems to be about Salmond v Sturgeon I don't see a reason to drag LGBT into it deliberately.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
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Yes. Nicola scored a goal with the modern metro left with this -Carnyx said:
It's not, actually, about that pair, at least primarily. There are other issues, and one has been a serious disagreement over gender reassignment and the appropriate legislation for some years now.Philip_Thompson said:
Given it all seems to be about Salmond v Sturgeon I don't see a reason to drag LGBT into it deliberately.Carnyx said:
Given that one of the key issues is a serious disagreement within the LGBT community I wouldn't be surprised if it was deliberately chosen (precisely to allow the claim of injured innocence if anyone points it out).Philip_Thompson said:
Oh, yeah. Didn't connect campers to camp but that seems a really big stretch to find that offensive.Carnyx said:
"Camp" = stereotypical gay man. Edit: think Soho boho 1960s-70s.Philip_Thompson said:
I don't get it? 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic.
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
That phrase to me literally refers to people squabbling. I am not aware of any LGBT association to camping or happy campers.
You do have to be a bit old and/or middle aged to use that vocabulary as a matter of routine.
https://twitter.com/i/status/13545210635023360010 -
People are often too quick to jump to conclusions which suit their narrative.contrarian said:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9209583/Is-Kent-variant-REALLY-deadlier-original-Covid-strains.html
Kent variant may be no more deadly after all, despite many on here repeating project terror as gospel.0 -
True but there are levels at which few going to monetise their assets, surely, as the great gold short in 2000 told us.rcs1000 said:
Silver is rather different to Gamestop. Because there's lots of new silver "capacity" that can be brought on stream by buying things with silver in them, and then melting them down.RochdalePioneers said:Meanwhile, in markets world, it seems the GameStop rampers are going after Silver...
The only big seller of physical at that price was a certain G. Brown.
Now the price is....er......higher by a factor of nine.
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I posted above though about protection from severe disease (still very high with the SA variant)MaxPB said:
The Novavax vaccine has got ~60% efficacy against SA COVID but has ~90% efficacy against the prevalent strains here. It's still ok, but we won't be able to go back to "normal" if it became the dominant strain because our herd immunity from vaccines may not be enough to prevent mass hospitalisations.Anabobazina said:Cue yet more hysteria on PB about variants
MinkKent
South Africa
For reference: “There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it. Virus variation and mutation occurs naturally. The more we suppress new variants the more we will avoid variants which cause problems for treatment or vaccination.”
It's definitely an argument in favour of completely closing the border to all travel except freight and medical staff.
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Covid anecdote time:
Colleague in his 20s. Caught Covid early in the first wave. Still can't taste anything.0
