Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
But that won't affect Philip personally. So I don't understand your point.
Companies die, its a sad fact of life. Market conditions change, some businesses thrive, others suffer. Happens all the time.
Should we stop the clock and never change anything?
Should we roll back the clock to bring back Blockbusters?
Or all the way back to bring back the Luddites?
I'm not a Luddite. I accept change brings disruption.
But in this case you are swapping those companies' existence for sovereignty.
What is the tangible quid pro quo?
Sovereignty.
The answer was in the question.
I always imagine men concerned with sovereignty as devoting a lot of attention to the question whether 6.3 inches is in fact the average size of a bit of sovereignty, and where precisely you measure from.
TNE currently more than washes its face, making £80,000 as a standalone business. But that is based on a shoestring editorial budget of £6,500 per issue, with some costs absorbed by Archant and only three members of staff, including editor Jasper Copping and digital editor Jono Read. That editorial budget will rise by 50 per cent immediately; and Archant will no longer foot the bill for overheads.
So trying to turn a hobby publication into a real publication.
I would imagine they will take it down the NYT / FT route i.e. a subscription model aimed at wealthier pro-European types. The FT apparently makes most of its profit from the "How to Spend It" publications, so that would be a focus.
Much easier to see how their numbers stack up than for Brillovision, given the low costs of a weekly paper. Even if GBN is rolling talking heads, that's not going to actually be profitable, is it?
Someone was muttering something about 'solidarity' earlier...
For some reason the catastrofuck of the EU vaccine negotiation keeps being used as proof that we were right to leave the EEA. I don't get it, unless like Big G they don't know the difference.
I think the EEA problem may be 'free movement' - not a problem for me but a biggy for those who voted Leave.
Considering that the EEA is outside of the Customs Union and deals with customs paperwork too which is what RP keeps complaining about - I'm not convinced he understands the difference either.
EEA+CU doesn't exist. Well it does, its called EU membership.
Oh luv, the problem at the moment is the ludicrous amount of SPS red tape, none of which would exist if we remained in the EEA.
Do try and keep up.
So fill in the SPS and move on.
You were convinced, absolutely conviced, that customs paperwork was going to bring the border to a crashing halt. It hasn't happened. So now complaints are boiled down to moaning about firms getting used to SPS red tape. Struggling to give a damn about that to be frank. If that's all you've got to complain about it isn't very much.
Wowsers. To everyone with eyes and a brain the border has been reduced to this uncomfortable quiet where there's only a fraction of normal traffic and half of that is empty vehicles.
You remember Multiplicity? You need to be like Michael Keaton. Go clone yourself. Then you can go and fix all the problems by a combination of "nope, no problem here", "market forces", "go buy something else" or some other fantastic solution.
Go on Philip. Go clone yourself.
I'm sure it has reduced as you say. You did also say that we would have food shortages - particularly in fresh produce. Is that still your prediction? Update: supermarket shelves in my part of Scotland's snowy wastes are still very much groaning with fresh produce.
We've managed, albeit with "fresh" not exactly the correct description for produce that's struggling to stay in life at times. And why have we done so? Because we haven't seen the endless queues that everyone including the government expected. And why haven't we done so? Because we have largely stopped importing and exporting. With traffic levels far lower than normal the trucks with fresh aren't getting stuck.
Its the early months of WWII from a trade perspective. We've declared war (on ourselves) and we know its coming even if its still sunny and you can get about without fear of your life. As we whittle our way down through the stockpiles we'll need to import more again. Which creates the problem that not even the vast new truck parks will solve.
There is something quite funny though in your post. "The border will stop functioning" I said. Not sending trucks through it is it not functioning. Yet "there are no queues so everything is fine" is the response.
Yes. Its all fine. As with Philip you absolutely know more about it than the producers, the wholesalers, the retails, the exporters, the logistics industry and indeed our own government. Perhaps you need to go clone yourself as well.
People lapping up Cyclefree's subject matter expertise on the AZ vaccine contract yet not so happy with yours on the food industry. Wonder why this is?
...It seems to me that people are first choosing a mood or attitude, and then finding the disparate views which match to that mood and, to themselves, justifying those views by the mood. I call this the “fallacy of mood affiliation,” and it is one of the most underreported fallacies in human reasoning... https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/03/the-fallacy-of-mood-affiliation.html
Valneva SE CFO David Lawrence told the Today Programme that whilst the UK has been in discussions and had signed deals since the summer of 2020, the EU is yet to sign even a letter of intent with the firm, which is headquartered in Paris...
“Yes they should. Of course it comes down to slots. In turn we have got suppliers and this is why it’s important for example that the UK has exercised its option now, so we have got to book slots with suppliers who are giving us key components for the vaccine. The same will be true of other vaccines, the supply process isn’t something that you can just switch on and switch off over a couple of weeks.”
The EU are going to be wrecking the aisles again when they find out "their" chocolate buttons have already been sold to somebody else.
Jesus how bad is the EU at this ?
They are still approaching this like buying a rug in a Moroccon bizzare....there is no rush and there is always another rug to buy...its all about playing the haggling game no matter if it takes you all afternoon to "win".
Just maybe, I suppose, if we had still been part of the EU we'd have led on this!
No, we would have been told to join the scheme and they would handle it....all about unity you see.
That was explicitly stated
We wouldn’t have any input into governance, price or selected vaccines. It’s why we politely declined
I always imagine men concerned with sovereignty as devoting a lot of attention to the question whether 6.3 inches is in fact the average size of a bit of sovereignty, and where precisely you measure from.
Region of Residence 1st dose 2nd dose Cumulative Total Doses to Date Total 289,359 2,757 292,116 East Of England 34,215 254 34,469 London 45,621 844 46,465 Midlands 58,924 303 59,227 North East And Yorkshire 36,981 481 37,462 North West 33,624 269 33,893 South East 51,827 262 52,089 South West 26,987 341 27,328
Please form an orderly queue to the organised panic at the church hall. Tea and biscuits will be served.
Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Did we agree this was Saturday's figures? Yep - I think we are on track for the first target (mid feb, groups 1-4), and I am hopeful being significantly through most adults by end of April.
Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Did we agree this was Saturday's figures? Yep - I think we are on track for the first target (mid feb, groups 1-4), and I am hopeful being significantly through most adults by end of April.
Yes, it seems that figures are basically a 2 day lag.
Capacity for 1 million a day should be the new stretch target now.
What @Big_G_NorthWales seems oblivious to is that I am not arguing to rejoin the EU - that ship has sailed. What I am arguing - with evidence - is that the rules insisted on by the UK government have brought a significant number of industries to a stand.
Brexit - leaving the EU - did not have to bring self-harm to our status as a global trading nation. Our government could have understood both how trade worked and the areas where the rules it blindly insisted would be fine would not be fine. Instead we have this.
"We are not going back so business will have to adapt". In the case of the wine industry it will adapt by closing down. The other story I ready this morning was from major Norniron logistics firm McCulla, reporting in detail how the new rules has brought their industry to its knees. These companies will close without either rapid changes or long-term support. They "will have to adapt" by closing down.
The new rules are unworkable. And this is the false dawn before we stop breaching WTO rules and start imposing them fully. They will either need to be renegotiated or we will see chunks of our economic output simply stop. That isn't an argument to rejoin the EU, its an argument to negotiate a trading deal that works.
Sadly people like Big G never understood the difference between the EU and EEA. It is our departure from the latter which has so broken the food and drink industry.
If they're so unworkable then how do we have so many New World wines available to drink? Is the old world seriously so sclerotic that we face a future of only New World wines if we're not in the EEA? Because I'm 100% OK with that even if that happens, but I don't believe it for one second.
I think that's going to far and too unfair on the EU there, I don't believe its really that sclerotic as to be impossible to deal with - and that's coming from me!
The issue is not that there isn't enough wine in the rest of the world, it's just that that wine is already being sold elsewhere and isn't available for us to buy.
1-3 years time the market will have adjusted and we may be in a position to buy more wine from the RoW but for the moment the RoW production is being produced for the pre-existing markets and is (probably) given how most markets work already presold elsewhere.
Have you never heard of the concepts of Supply and Demand?
Prices may change, contracts may change, but the idea it is literally "impossible" to import wine whether from the EU or the Rest of the World is a lie.
Harder to import EU wine? I believe that. More expensive to import EU wine? I believe that. Impossible to import EU wine? Lie, lie, lie.
Impossible doesn't mean a touch more expensive or there's more paperwork.
Oh and Philip, here's that random bloke off twitter with FBPE in his handle spouting off about wine.
If it is "impossible" to buy EU wine after April then I am willing to make a £100 bet.
I challenge anyone to pick a date this year and I will go to my local supermarket or bottle store and look for a bottle of EU wine. If I can go to a bottle store or supermarket and pick up a bottle of EU wine then I'm happy to put a photograph of the bottle and my receipt here and you pay me £100. If I am incapable of finding any EU wines then I will pay you £100.
Any takers? If I don't know what I'm talking about and it really is "impossible" to import wine after April, as opposed to a bit more inconvenient, then that should be guaranteed money in your pocket straight from a mug apparently. Who wants in?
I do enjoy your strawman arguments deployed once you've pillocked yourself into a corner.
No straw man. You said "impossible". I defined "impossible".
Do you have some other definition of "impossible"? Do you know what the word "impossible" means?
To answer my own question above. I said "its impossible to replace wine that doesn't exist." As in replace the 50% of wine from the EU with the other 50% as the volume doesn't exist.
Quite how that has been changed to "impossible to import from the EU" is something that only Philip can understand.
Can I gently point out that wine is not fungible? Australian wine is not a perfect substitute for Burgundy.
For most of those who care, I suspect price escalation won't be a huge issue.
Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
That's shit for them.
Other companies will take their place and the market will suit the ones that survive and are created in the future. That's evolution.
Couldn't you say that about any tax or regulation change that affects business?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
What's the SP with Cherry getting sacked? Is she on Team Salmond?
She's Team Salmond and an out gay woman who has pointed out issues with the GRA. Very much in Nicola's bad books. The previous NEC passed an emergency motion to block her standing for a Holyrood seat.
Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Did we agree this was Saturday's figures? Yep - I think we are on track for the first target (mid feb, groups 1-4), and I am hopeful being significantly through most adults by end of April.
Yes, it seems that figures are basically a 2 day lag.
Capacity for 1 million a day should be the new stretch target now.
It's actually looking as if the pattern is a saw-tooth, starting low in Monday reporting and building through the week.
Whether this is an artefact of deliveries, reporting etc is not knowable at this stage.
Mr. Felix, is it an Inquisition for the purposes of dealing with heretical vaccine manufacturers?
NOBODY expects the EU Inquisition.
Because they couldn't believe it would ever get beyond the planning stage, after sixty four committee meetings. Followed by sixty four very good lunches.
I’d confess all to avoid 64 committee meetings with EU bureaucrats!
That just shunts you into the short cut 32 meeting confessional process.
I do wonder, however, if it is just possible that those who were so convinced that the EU were the adults, the reasonable ones whose views and positions should be given unstinting respect and deference through the long and tedious Brexit saga are taking the opportunity to reflect. It turns out that the EU is not an institution of laws after all. It is a bureaucratic mess, slow and incompetent, with a massive democratic deficit who cannot be relied upon to respect the views of its members (in this case Ireland and Art 16).
Thank the lord we are out of it. Now let's move on together and make the best of our own path.
As I keep pointing out, there is a world of difference between the EU pooing the bed over their vaccine fiasco and the EU stating a core negotiating position that the UK refused to accept. Nor are the EU the reason why we have chosen to leave the EEA. From the EU's self-imposed idiocy to our own - a wine importer whose business cannot function under the rules the UK government demanded be imposed.
Some of the responses are quite funny as well. "Can't you import wine from elsewhere?" No - it doesn't exist. ROW doesn't produce anywhere near enough wine to replace EU volume. Err, "they need our customs. can't the frogs tell Macron to change his rules?" No, these are our rules. Insisted on by the UK government.
Your constant posting of anti brexit stories is rather pointless even more so after these last few days
We are not going back so business will have to adapt
I think we know that. The actual issue at the moment (if you read the tweets) is the paperwork requirements are making low volume imports impossible.
Importing a container with a single product on it not a problem - 1 set of paperwork required. Start importing different product within a single container and the problems start to occur - as you need 1 set of paperwork per product and any 1 mistake on single form is enough to block the whole container from moving. Start splitting pallets into smaller orders and real problems begin. Remember 1 mistake blocks the entire container
We've spent 30+ years with paperwork free exports and imports from the EU. The introduction of paperwork (a lot of which HMRC have zero people who understand it) is making things impossible. And Covid is sweeping this under the table.
Now things will get easier - but they will get easier by people reducing the products they import and export - so less paperwork is required and less paperwork is the only way to avoid mistakes occurring.
So people will adjust. That's not impossible.
If people don't want to adjust, especially people with EU flags in their Twitter handle, that's on them not politics.
The idea it is "impossible" to import wines from outside of a customs union would be a strange thought to anyone who likes New World wines.
I would go and read the thread - there isn't enough available New World wine to replace the EU imports.
And the issue is mainly the one I've pointed out all month - why should I continue to purchase from you when other options are easier.
Which is why the UK is now (note now not back in 2019 when it made sense to do so) telling companies to set up EU subsidiaries so that the paperwork is hidden away internally and stock is sent direct from a warehouse in the EU.
The tweeter is being very misleading suggesting that all EU wine will have to be replaced and the wine industry is under threat
In reality *his* business model of short line mixed pallets is under threat. Perhaps he needs to transact via an aggregator - which will come at a cost - but is feasible
So Brexit necessitates a hike in business costs - the absolute inversion of what its proponents claimed would happen. Is there a single element of 'Project Fear' that hasn't come to pass?
WW3?
The WW3 thing was one of the Leave campaign's most egregious lies. Dave said no such thing. In fact, when I've asked Leavers on here to provide evidence they've always failed miserably and had to resort to the absurd claim that it was in an 'earlier draft' that never saw the light of day. Ridiculous.
It was one of those 'Hyperbolic Binary Opposers' (HBOs) that are invariably a sign of dumbed down debate.
"The EU has been instrumental in building and preserving peace on the continent of Europe after the ravages of 2 great wars in the first half of the century."
"So, if we leave it's gonna be WW3?"
Read Cameron's quote, he was asking about the risk of leaving.
I know. I've just commented on it. My post at 2.03 explains why it was a valid pro-EU argument and not a part of Remain Project Fear.
Not just Surrey getting the mass door to door testing,
Door-to-door mass testing in Surrey, Kent, London, Hertfordshire, Lancashire and West Midlands after ELEVEN people test positive for dangerous Covid South African variant despite not leaving country and having no links to previous cases
France’s Europe minister said in response to the question on the radio this morning.
The UK government was vaccinating more people because it was taking “a lot of risks” in spreading out the two jabs and in using the vaccine for older people; risks, he said, that the French government and French people would not want to take.
And why not? Sputnik has been approved in 16 countries, Sinopharm in 11, and Sinovac in 7. All 3 prevent hospitalisations.
It isn't good to rely on authoritarian dictatorships for something so important.
No, but needs must and if they work, fine. Dont think they've received approval in Europe yet though so not sure how it helps - they have loads of doses coming, its lack now thats an issue
Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
That's shit for them.
Other companies will take their place and the market will suit the ones that survive and are created in the future. That's evolution.
Couldn't you say that about any tax or regulation change that affects business?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
The argument appears to be some business's will go bust due to the extra costs of import export whereas in the EU they didn't have those costs. Sadly however those costs were still there, just instead of the business that benefitted paying them the bill was handed to the tax payers of the country in the form of a large contribution to the EU budget.
Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
That's shit for them.
Other companies will take their place and the market will suit the ones that survive and are created in the future. That's evolution.
Couldn't you say that about any tax or regulation change that affects business?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
Yes you can.
Arguing that the change is not worth it is one thing.
Screaming until you're blue in the face there's been a change is puerile.
Changes happen. Its a value judgement as to whether it was worth it or not. Personally if the worst that happens is a bit of customs paperwork, a bit of SPS paperwork and life goes on then I am quite prepared to accept that cost. Its better than I thought it might be when I voted Leave.
Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
That's shit for them.
Other companies will take their place and the market will suit the ones that survive and are created in the future. That's evolution.
Couldn't you say that about any tax or regulation change that affects business?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
The argument appears to be some business's will go bust due to the extra costs of import export whereas in the EU they didn't have those costs. Sadly however those costs were still there, just instead of the business that benefitted paying them the bill was handed to the tax payers of the country in the form of a large contribution to the EU budget.
Hang on - the new costs are dealing with the paperwork and the regulations. Which were not done before, so nobody was paying for them. Which is the whole point of a Zollverein. (This assumes there are no new taxes as such.)
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
France’s Europe minister said in response to the question on the radio this morning.
The UK government was vaccinating more people because it was taking “a lot of risks” in spreading out the two jabs and in using the vaccine for older people; risks, he said, that the French government and French people would not want to take.
What that says to me, is that he thinks there will be no uptick in the vaccination program in France in the near future.
France’s Europe minister said in response to the question on the radio this morning.
The UK government was vaccinating more people because it was taking “a lot of risks” in spreading out the two jabs and in using the vaccine for older people; risks, he said, that the French government and French people would not want to take.
What that says to me, is that he thinks there will be no uptick in the vaccination program in France in the near future.
Shit.
Well there was the guy on twitter who crunched the numbers yesterday and it showed their own targets where basically still snails pace and not using all the supply.
What's the SP with Cherry getting sacked? Is she on Team Salmond?
She's Team Salmond and an out gay woman who has pointed out issues with the GRA. Very much in Nicola's bad books. The previous NEC passed an emergency motion to block her standing for a Holyrood seat.
Problems with the Great Reform Act? What's she got against the enfranchisement of the middle classes?
Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
That's shit for them.
Other companies will take their place and the market will suit the ones that survive and are created in the future. That's evolution.
Couldn't you say that about any tax or regulation change that affects business?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
The argument appears to be some business's will go bust due to the extra costs of import export whereas in the EU they didn't have those costs. Sadly however those costs were still there, just instead of the business that benefitted paying them the bill was handed to the tax payers of the country in the form of a large contribution to the EU budget.
Hang on - the new costs are dealing with the paperwork and the regulations. Which were not done before, so nobody was paying for them. Which is the whole point of a Zollverein. (This assumes there are no new taxes as such.)
Of course they were paying them....the point of paying into the eu budget was to remove the paperwork.
She'll become briefly very popular with opponents if she were to become one of those rent a quote politicians broadcasters use when they want someone to criticise their own parties .
And why not? Sputnik has been approved in 16 countries, Sinopharm in 11, and Sinovac in 7. All 3 prevent hospitalisations.
It isn't good to rely on authoritarian dictatorships for something so important.
No, but needs must and if they work, fine. Dont think they've received approval in Europe yet though so not sure how it helps - they have loads of doses coming, its lack now thats an issue
Have the details of the Russian trials been made public/published?
Relative of mine was sent home last week. Crucial element stuck in port apparently so no work.
I have a friend who's relatively senior in a large UK-based pharmaceutical company who tells me that they have over £1m worth of stock stuck in Belgium, having been irradiated, with the 'use by' date slowly slipping away. He's not happy!
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
What was she sacked for? I thought she was one of the better SNP MPs.
She is. Sacked for not being on team Nicola....nor following the woke agenda - have you seen the cavalcade of wit & beauty the SNP have arranged for List MSPs?
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
Isn't big JC QC running for Holyrood in the summer?
Nope, she pulled out of the Edinburgh Central candidate contest cos the rules weren’t fair or something.
Election is beginning of May so not that far away.
She got (metaphorically) shafted by Peter Murrell (SNP CEO and husband of Nicola) with a last-minute rule change that meant sitting MPs had to resign from W'Minster to even put themselves forward for a Holyrood seat.
Her competitor for the seat was one Angus Robertson.
It should be noted that Cherry is feted by the SNP membership as the only MP to have actually made any significant impact at Westminster, (with the possible exception of Blackford but he's not exactly Grade 1 is he?)
Levels of inter-tribal brutality now rivalling that of Scottish Labour in its prime.
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
It might if we close the f***ing borders, institute a mandatory hotel quarantine, implement full test and trace and continue to rollout vaccines.
I still don't understand the delay here. It's the exact kind of policy Brexit supporters love as well as a majority of former remainers.
The whole unwillingness to close the border for 10 months is unfathomable. Not just the UK government, but the eggheads, the opposition, the media, basically anybody with a voice, has been well we must do x, where x changes every week and is everything other than close the border.
Isn't big JC QC running for Holyrood in the summer?
Nope, she pulled out of the Edinburgh Central candidate contest cos the rules weren’t fair or something.
Election is beginning of May so not that far away.
She got (metaphorically) shafted by Peter Murrell (SNP CEO and husband of Nicola) with a last-minute rule change that meant sitting MPs had to resign from W'Minster to even put themselves forward for a Holyrood seat.
Her competitor for the seat was one Angus Robertson.
It should be noted that Cherry is feted by the SNP membership as the only MP to have actually made any significant impact at Westminster, (with the possible exception of Blackford but he's not exactly Grade 1 is he?)
Levels of inter-tribal brutality now rivalling that of Scottish Labour in its prime.
And it only took decades from prime to wipeout, so that's good news.
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
It might if we close the f***ing borders, institute a mandatory hotel quarantine, implement full test and trace and continue to rollout vaccines.
I still don't understand the delay here. It's the exact kind of policy Brexit supporters love as well as a majority of former remainers.
The whole unwillingness to close the border for 10 months is unfathomable. Not just the UK government, but the eggheads, the opposition, the media, basically anybody with a voice, has been well we must do x, where x changes every week and is everything other than close the border.
For some reason the experts thought they was no point in closing the borders last year. Ive read their explanations again and again and still dont understand their reasoning.
Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
That's shit for them.
Other companies will take their place and the market will suit the ones that survive and are created in the future. That's evolution.
Couldn't you say that about any tax or regulation change that affects business?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
The argument appears to be some business's will go bust due to the extra costs of import export whereas in the EU they didn't have those costs. Sadly however those costs were still there, just instead of the business that benefitted paying them the bill was handed to the tax payers of the country in the form of a large contribution to the EU budget.
Hang on - the new costs are dealing with the paperwork and the regulations. Which were not done before, so nobody was paying for them. Which is the whole point of a Zollverein. (This assumes there are no new taxes as such.)
Yes we were.
Are you not familiar with the term opportunity cost? All choices have a cost, whether it be a real cost or an opportunity cost - or both.
The only reason there were no paperwork and regulations was because we were paying the cost of surrendering some sovereignty and paying membership fees. So the cost was there, it was just nationalised.
And why not? Sputnik has been approved in 16 countries, Sinopharm in 11, and Sinovac in 7. All 3 prevent hospitalisations.
It isn't good to rely on authoritarian dictatorships for something so important.
No, but needs must and if they work, fine. Dont think they've received approval in Europe yet though so not sure how it helps - they have loads of doses coming, its lack now thats an issue
Have the details of the Russian trials been made public/published?
No idea. In principle if they go through the same process it's an ok plan but it seems another distraction.
South African variant of Covid found in eight areas of England
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
It might if we close the f***ing borders, institute a mandatory hotel quarantine, implement full test and trace and continue to rollout vaccines.
I still don't understand the delay here. It's the exact kind of policy Brexit supporters love as well as a majority of former remainers.
The whole unwillingness to close the border for 10 months is unfathomable. Not just the UK government, but the eggheads, the opposition, the media, basically anybody with a voice, has been well we must do x, where x changes every week and is everything other than close the border.
For some reason the experts thought they was no point in closing the borders last year. Ive read their explanations again and again and still dont understand their reasoning.
At the same time, those experts where saying we don't need to do community testing anymore, just focus on hospitals and masks, what do we need those for.
I can only presume the airline lobby is constantly making doomster representations to the government and that when they ask the eggheads how does imported covid cases compare to already existing ones, it is a small percentage and so they always decide we can do without closing the border.
Of course, the number isn't the issue, it is the type. We don't want Saffers or Brazilian Bum COVID to become the dominant type.
Isn't big JC QC running for Holyrood in the summer?
Nope, she pulled out of the Edinburgh Central candidate contest cos the rules weren’t fair or something.
Election is beginning of May so not that far away.
No. They changed the rules so sitting MPs couldn't stand - a new and novel concept for the SNP - she would have had to quit the commons. Coincidentally, by a sheer fluke, this benefitted Angus Robertson ex-MP who by the most unlikely of circumstances happens to be on Team Nicola.
For reference: “There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it. Virus variation and mutation occurs naturally. The more we suppress new variants the more we will avoid variants which cause problems for treatment or vaccination.”
Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic. https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
Interesting study on school-age transmission in Norway (testing - well, requesting to test at least - all known contacts of 5-13 year olds known to have been infected). Small sample, but very low transmission detected.
As noted, small sample, before new variants were known to be circulating and relatively low (by international standards) prevalence in Norway anyway. Also looks like the children didn't have that many contacts - small class sizes with good measures in place?
Companies will adapt, get used to it and move on. That's life.
Many of them will not.
Many of them will die.
That's shit for them.
Other companies will take their place and the market will suit the ones that survive and are created in the future. That's evolution.
Couldn't you say that about any tax or regulation change that affects business?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
The argument appears to be some business's will go bust due to the extra costs of import export whereas in the EU they didn't have those costs. Sadly however those costs were still there, just instead of the business that benefitted paying them the bill was handed to the tax payers of the country in the form of a large contribution to the EU budget.
Hang on - the new costs are dealing with the paperwork and the regulations. Which were not done before, so nobody was paying for them. Which is the whole point of a Zollverein. (This assumes there are no new taxes as such.)
Yes we were.
Are you not familiar with the term opportunity cost? All choices have a cost, whether it be a real cost or an opportunity cost - or both.
The only reason there were no paperwork and regulations was because we were paying the cost of surrendering some sovereignty and paying membership fees. So the cost was there, it was just nationalised.
Of course. But - ignoring the mere matter of slogans on buses and their accuracy - that works the other way round too - if you suppress trade like you are doing right now, and some at least stays permanently suppressed ...
France’s Europe minister said in response to the question on the radio this morning.
The UK government was vaccinating more people because it was taking “a lot of risks” in spreading out the two jabs and in using the vaccine for older people; risks, he said, that the French government and French people would not want to take.
The French certainly aren't taking any risks with injections.
For reference: “There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it. Virus variation and mutation occurs naturally. The more we suppress new variants the more we will avoid variants which cause problems for treatment or vaccination.”
“There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it."
That is very carefully worded....regulated vaccine...we know one of the most recent to announce was nowhere near as effective against it AND (this is very important) as part of their study they found significant numbers of people who had been reinfected.
Happily I will soon move far away from local Tory Simon Clarke. He couldn't be classier if he tried. "Happy Campers" FFS. He'll be posting in a bit claiming to be outraged that describing a gay woman that way could be considered to be problematic. https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
I really do worry for anyone who sees that and imagines it as some kind of homophobic slur. Crazy.
Only 292k jabs in England on today numbers....I would guess 350k for UK as a whole.
ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
Not a disaster but well below the required rate.
Disappointing.
Calm down, calm down....Its Monday, it is still well up on the same day from previous weeks.
I'm perfectly calm, just pointing out that it's below the required rate.
You seem to be agitated however!
Saying its disappointing when the daily rate varies a lot may be calm but it seems silly. There were several 'disappointing' days last week but it didn't matter as the variation swung the other way and it was up for the week.
Isn't big JC QC running for Holyrood in the summer?
She was effectively prevented from doing so by a rule change which would have forced her to resign immediately as an MP (and make her staff redundant) upon application to be put on the candidates list
France’s Europe minister said in response to the question on the radio this morning.
The UK government was vaccinating more people because it was taking “a lot of risks” in spreading out the two jabs and in using the vaccine for older people; risks, he said, that the French government and French people would not want to take.
I expect that in a month's time comments like that will have been quietly forgotten like the bragging about the price paid for vaccines. Quite why any country is dawdling when it comes dishing out vaccines is completey beyond me.
The UK spent more than the entire EU on vaccine development according to this:
“The UK committed £1.67billion on Covid vaccines before it was known whether they would be effective - more than the £1.57billion the EU spent on behalf of 27 countries, with Britain spending £25.00 per capita compared to £3.51 for Brussels. “
Ummm, I'm a big fan of Kwasi, but Valneva isn't going to be ready until the last quarter of 2021, so I'm not entirely sure why we're doing this.
Robert, perhaps the reasoning is to build a capacity and expertise to make multiple different types of vaccine:
1. Oxford/AZN gives us the ability (capacity and expertise) to make genetically modified adenovirus vaccines 2. Making Pfizer vaccines idc gives us the ability to make mRNA vaccines 3. Making Novavax vaccines gives us the ability to make protein/adjuvant vaccines 4. Valneva gives us the ability to make inactivated virus vaccine (the only such instance against COVID in Europe).
So you can see, it is not just a portfolio of COVID vaccines we are building up, but a portfolio of different types of vaccines and their production - which gives us more ways of responding to future pandemics too.
France’s Europe minister said in response to the question on the radio this morning.
The UK government was vaccinating more people because it was taking “a lot of risks” in spreading out the two jabs and in using the vaccine for older people; risks, he said, that the French government and French people would not want to take.
I expect that in a month's time comments like that will have been quietly forgotten like the bragging about the price paid for vaccines. Quite why any country is dawdling when it comes dishing out vaccines is completey beyond me.
Someone said the other day that the french are heavily into alternative medicines though no idea if thats true, so maybe just playing to his electorate
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ITS A DISASTER..........Runs around like a headless chicken.
It’ll save you some time, and gain you a reader.
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/03/the-fallacy-of-mood-affiliation.html
https://www.surreycc.gov.uk/people-and-community/emergency-planning-and-community-safety/coronavirus/surge-testing#map
We wouldn’t have any input into governance, price or selected vaccines. It’s why we politely declined
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24/01: 199K
17/01: 156K
So 45% up on last week.
Election is beginning of May so not that far away.
Capacity for 1 million a day should be the new stretch target now.
Any statement on vaccine production, export or import will get turned into a thing at the moment. Therefore, don't comment.
Shit happens. 🤷🏻♂️
At least I don't deny it. Can everyone else always say the same?
Doesn't that make it a completely meaningless argument, because the issue claimed is that the new equilibrium that will be reached is one that is worse, in terms of less choice, less wealth, less whatever it is that people are complaining about.
Some businesses adapted and survived in Zimbabwe. That doesn't defend the economic mismanagement there over many decades.
https://twitter.com/Quizbay/status/1356177699371446274
Whether this is an artefact of deliveries, reporting etc is not knowable at this stage.
Why would you?
Door-to-door mass testing in Surrey, Kent, London, Hertfordshire, Lancashire and West Midlands after ELEVEN people test positive for dangerous Covid South African variant despite not leaving country and having no links to previous cases
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9210159/Door-door-testing-South-African-variant-start-Surrey.html
France’s Europe minister said in response to the question on the radio this morning.
The UK government was vaccinating more people because it was taking “a lot of risks” in spreading out the two jabs and in using the vaccine for older people; risks, he said, that the French government and French people would not want to take.
Arguing that the change is not worth it is one thing.
Screaming until you're blue in the face there's been a change is puerile.
Changes happen. Its a value judgement as to whether it was worth it or not. Personally if the worst that happens is a bit of customs paperwork, a bit of SPS paperwork and life goes on then I am quite prepared to accept that cost. Its better than I thought it might be when I voted Leave.
The South African variant of coronavirus has been discovered in eight different areas of England, sparking a “a two-week sprint to test everyone” in the affected postcodes, the Guardian has learned.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/01/south-african-variant-of-covid-found-in-eight-areas-of-england
Its here folks....and not going away.
Shit.
And why are so many political parties tying themselves in knots over trans issues?
(BTW, tying a knot in it is not a recommended procedure for gender reassignment.)
Unless it isn't.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIgSlmZScFs
https://twitter.com/STVKathryn/status/1356244397906653186?s=20
Her competitor for the seat was one Angus Robertson.
It should be noted that Cherry is feted by the SNP membership as the only MP to have actually made any significant impact at Westminster, (with the possible exception of Blackford but he's not exactly Grade 1 is he?)
Levels of inter-tribal brutality now rivalling that of Scottish Labour in its prime.
https://twitter.com/ExStrategist/status/1356246207455260676?s=20
But this isn't normal, its a global pandemic.
https://twitter.com/BrianSpanner1/status/1356245799353643014?s=20
Disappointing.
Are you not familiar with the term opportunity cost? All choices have a cost, whether it be a real cost or an opportunity cost - or both.
The only reason there were no paperwork and regulations was because we were paying the cost of surrendering some sovereignty and paying membership fees. So the cost was there, it was just nationalised.
I can only presume the airline lobby is constantly making doomster representations to the government and that when they ask the eggheads how does imported covid cases compare to already existing ones, it is a small percentage and so they always decide we can do without closing the border.
Of course, the number isn't the issue, it is the type. We don't want Saffers or Brazilian Bum COVID to become the dominant type.
You seem to be agitated however!
MinkKentSouth Africa
For reference: “There is currently no evidence that this variant causes more severe illness, or that the regulated vaccine would not protect against it. Virus variation and mutation occurs naturally. The more we suppress new variants the more we will avoid variants which cause problems for treatment or vaccination.”
https://twitter.com/SimonClarkeMP/status/1356236028978278403
https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2020.26.1.2002011
As noted, small sample, before new variants were known to be circulating and relatively low (by international standards) prevalence in Norway anyway. Also looks like the children didn't have that many contacts - small class sizes with good measures in place?
Indeed, but well below the required rate.
That is very carefully worded....regulated vaccine...we know one of the most recent to announce was nowhere near as effective against it AND (this is very important) as part of their study they found significant numbers of people who had been reinfected.
That is all I am saying. It's perfectly recoverable.
“The UK committed £1.67billion on Covid vaccines before it was known whether they would be effective - more than the £1.57billion the EU spent on behalf of 27 countries, with Britain spending £25.00 per capita compared to £3.51 for Brussels. “
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9209689/How-EU-failed-plan-vaccines-rollout.html
1. Oxford/AZN gives us the ability (capacity and expertise) to make genetically modified adenovirus vaccines
2. Making Pfizer vaccines idc gives us the ability to make mRNA vaccines
3. Making Novavax vaccines gives us the ability to make protein/adjuvant vaccines
4. Valneva gives us the ability to make inactivated virus vaccine (the only such instance against COVID in Europe).
So you can see, it is not just a portfolio of COVID vaccines we are building up, but a portfolio of different types of vaccines and their production - which gives us more ways of responding to future pandemics too.