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It would somewhat interfere with the role of pundit, in fairness.Phil said:
Well, that’s Toby Young for you. Weirdly I think he asks a lot of the right questions. The trouble lies in the part where he doesn’t seem to be interested whether his answers are true or not.Pulpstar said:
Blimey you have to come out with a real whopper to get the wrong side of IPSO as a journalist.kinabalu said:Breaking - Toby's been done by IPSO for saying that getting a cold gives protection against Covid.
He has not had a good pandemic.1 -
Thanks. But to muddy the waters further see my previous Edit: reply not tweet! to TUD (crossed in the aether). Which I can't reconcile with threats of prosecution of at least one person reporting the trial on AFAIK precisely the issue of confidentiality.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's one of the issues I thought it might be referencing.Carnyx said:
I can't quite work this out. But there was a thing in reporting the court case over the need for anonymity for his accusers. Is this the issue here? i.e. submitting the documents may well breach that anonymity.CarlottaVance said:
There maybe a confidentially clause in the deal he agreed with the Scottish government.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/13/alex-salmond-awarded-512000-payout-after-botched-investigation0 -
From the article:Malmesbury said:
14 million people is near as darn it 20% of the population.RobD said:
It can't be just looking at 1-4, as the cases are still at 80% after they've all been vaccinated.MaxPB said:
It's only looking at groups 1-4, I'd actually like to see that taken forwards for the whole country.RobD said:
Groups 1-4 will finish vaccinating in the middle of Feb. Does this model just assume vaccination will stop then?FF43 said:You can take or leave the assumptions behind this analysis - they are debatable - but the general thrust is plausible. The death rate will be cut rapidly as the most vulnerable are vaccinated; the hospitalisation rate will be cut roughly in half and will only come down further as the general population is vaccinated over a longer timeframe.
As hospitals are beyond capacity right now this suggests to me that significant social distancing measures will still be required months after the vulnerable group are vaccinated. There will be an argument about this.
https://twitter.com/henryhtapper/status/1348903187324006401
So COVID will be raging along in the other 80% of the population, even if those 14 million are 95% protected.
"We should expect any reduction in cases to be broadly consistent with the proportion vaccinated as a percentage of the total population."
I think that's too simplistic, and understates the benefit, because vaccinations affect the R rate rather than affecting the cases directly, so the benefit gets multiplied week after week.
It's hard to quantify though, as we're not vaccinating a random selection of people: vaccinating the old probably has a less than proportional effect on R, as they shouldn't be meeting many people anyway, while vaccinating health and care workers should have a much bigger effect. And of course we can't ignore that the vaccines don't have 100% efficacy, especially with a single dose.0 -
Thanks for that.Theuniondivvie said:
I think the implication may be that various aspects of Salmond's behaviour over the years have been known to Sturgeon which would certainly be a sticky wicket for her. However that would mean AS admitting to actions so reprehensible that Sturgeon should have been duty bound to act on the information.Carnyx said:
I can't quite work this out. But there was a thing in reporting the court case over the need for anonymity for his accusers. Is this the issue here? i.e. submitting the documents may well breach that anonymity.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Toby doesn't mess about. Hasn't got a reverse gear.Pulpstar said:
Blimey you have to come out with a real whopper to get the wrong side of IPSO as a journalist.kinabalu said:Breaking - Toby's been done by IPSO for saying that getting a cold gives protection against Covid.
He has not had a good pandemic.0 -
Correcting myself..."must" is the wrong verb. They can look outside Holryood if they want.AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
Not that they have many plausible choices outside of it.
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Not Ian Murray?AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
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I suppose it didn't go well the last time they had a MP - Mr 'I will not lose a single seat" Murphy. And a peer would invite too many attack lines.AndreaParma_82 said:
Correcting myself..."must" is the wrong verb. They can look outside Holryood if they want.AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
Not that they have many plausible choices outside of it.1 -
I should probably have written 'one interpretation may be' since I know as little as the next Scotch expert.Carnyx said:
Thanks for that.Theuniondivvie said:
I think the implication may be that various aspects of Salmond's behaviour over the years have been known to Sturgeon which would certainly be a sticky wicket for her. However that would mean AS admitting to actions so reprehensible that Sturgeon should have been duty bound to act on the information.Carnyx said:
I can't quite work this out. But there was a thing in reporting the court case over the need for anonymity for his accusers. Is this the issue here? i.e. submitting the documents may well breach that anonymity.CarlottaVance said:0 -
About those vaccination certificates... the land of the free has come up with a notion.
https://twitter.com/jhalamka/status/13497784277804646420 -
But it used to be he should go when he'd delivered Brexit.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not doubt than Boris is a big factor and it is why when covid is on the wain I would like to see Rishi as PMFF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership.
TheScreamingEagles said:
This is starting to feel a bit like a journey towards the horizon.0 -
Get Arnold Schwarzenegger involved, he has a history with recalls.logical_song said:1 -
Baillie can get back some Lab to Con switchers. She won't make inroads in SNP IMO.
Some of them like Boyack are ok. However, I think they are ok in the same way Leonard is ok.0 -
Did we get a new latest number of vaccinations today?1
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Remember Alex Salmond has admitted (via his barrister) he acted inappropriately with female subordinates as well as admitting he is no angel.Carnyx said:
Thanks. But to muddy the waters further see my previous tweet to TUD (crossed in the aether). Which I can't reconcile with threats of prosecution of at least one person reporting the trial on AFAIK precisely the issue of confidentiality.TheScreamingEagles said:
That's one of the issues I thought it might be referencing.Carnyx said:
I can't quite work this out. But there was a thing in reporting the court case over the need for anonymity for his accusers. Is this the issue here? i.e. submitting the documents may well breach that anonymity.CarlottaVance said:
There maybe a confidentially clause in the deal he agreed with the Scottish government.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/aug/13/alex-salmond-awarded-512000-payout-after-botched-investigation
I suspect he's wanting to make sure things don't escalate for him via a new complaint based on his new testimony.-1 -
There is a limited market* for Johnson's brand of nationalism in Scotland. We have our own brand, which some people like and others don't, but at least it's ours.TheScreamingEagles said:
I mentioned earlier the moment Boris Johnson made himself Minister for the Union support for Scottish Independence has surged.FF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership. It really takes off in the summer of 2019 and doesn't look back.
TheScreamingEagles said:
He's Minister for Scottish Independence more like.
* Limited market for Johnson, actually.0 -
Considering he's got a deal, multiple vaccines and is doing well in his job now why should he go imminently?kinabalu said:
But it used to be he should go when he'd delivered Brexit.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not doubt than Boris is a big factor and it is why when covid is on the wain I would like to see Rishi as PMFF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership.
TheScreamingEagles said:
This is starting to feel a bit like a journey towards the horizon.0 -
Totally.Philip_Thompson said:
Get Arnold Schwarzenegger involved, he has a history with recalls.logical_song said:1 -
Don't downplay his role. He's also Minister for Irish Unification.TheScreamingEagles said:
I mentioned earlier the moment Boris Johnson made himself Minister for the Union support for Scottish Independence has surged.FF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership. It really takes off in the summer of 2019 and doesn't look back.
TheScreamingEagles said:
He's Minister for Scottish Independence more like.
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He is hardly going to go at this moment in the Covid crisiskinabalu said:
But it used to be he should go when he'd delivered Brexit.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not doubt than Boris is a big factor and it is why when covid is on the wain I would like to see Rishi as PMFF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership.
TheScreamingEagles said:
This is starting to feel a bit like a journey towards the horizon.0 -
yes, I corrected myself later. But not fast enough to be able to edit my post.Carnyx said:
Not Ian Murray?AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
However, would Murray want to go for it? SLAB will lose Scottish Parliament elections anyway because SLAB problems aren't due to only Leonard's weak leadership.0 -
I think that's right. Also Ms Baillie is very pro-Trident. Somethijng of a disadvantage in Labour.AndreaParma_82 said:Baillie can get back some Lab to Con switchers. She won't make inroads in SNP IMO.
Some of them like Boyack are ok. However, I think they are ok in the same way Leonard is ok.
PS Also consider Labour to ScoGreens as well - and again, Ms B won;t dent that much.0 -
Shocking decline for the party of Jack McConnell.AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.1 -
Keir Hardie and Robert Bontine Cunninghame Graham wave skeletal hands.Gaussian said:
Shocking decline for the party of Jack McConnell.AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.0 -
Would have thought Sarwar as the other main candidate last time round would be in with a shout?AndreaParma_82 said:Baillie can get back some Lab to Con switchers. She won't make inroads in SNP IMO.
Some of them like Boyack are ok. However, I think they are ok in the same way Leonard is ok.0 -
I watched Boris Johnson's shambolic meeting with The Liaison Committee, his incoherence is extraordinary.0
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Latest C19 update from Dr John Campbell.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UTC9hW_VsA0 -
I wondered, but Leonard's lot raked up stuff re his family wealth, family company's policy re trade unions, sending weans to private school, etc. Probably in revenge for the Sarwar side complaining IIRC he was a Yorkshireman (albeit giving that as a reason Scots wouldn't vote for him).Theuniondivvie said:
Would have thought Sarwar as the other main candidate last time round would be in with a shout?AndreaParma_82 said:Baillie can get back some Lab to Con switchers. She won't make inroads in SNP IMO.
Some of them like Boyack are ok. However, I think they are ok in the same way Leonard is ok.
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I suppose it will be between them and they will sort it out before the contest rather than standing against each other.Theuniondivvie said:
Would have thought Sarwar as the other main candidate last time round would be in with a shout?AndreaParma_82 said:Baillie can get back some Lab to Con switchers. She won't make inroads in SNP IMO.
Some of them like Boyack are ok. However, I think they are ok in the same way Leonard is ok.
However, I still associate Sarwar with this tenure as Deputy Leader when Lamont was in charge. And even that period didn't end up well.0 -
Things would go better without Bodybag Boris around.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is hardly going to go at this moment in the Covid crisiskinabalu said:
But it used to be he should go when he'd delivered Brexit.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not doubt than Boris is a big factor and it is why when covid is on the wain I would like to see Rishi as PMFF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership.
TheScreamingEagles said:
This is starting to feel a bit like a journey towards the horizon.0 -
I can't recall the last time he spoke a sentence without a string of erms and errs in it. Struggling.dr_spyn said:I watched Boris Johnson's shambolic meeting with The Liaison Committee, his incoherence is extraordinary.
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Why not? We changed Prime Ministers during both world wars.Big_G_NorthWales said:
He is hardly going to go at this moment in the Covid crisiskinabalu said:
But it used to be he should go when he'd delivered Brexit.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I do not doubt than Boris is a big factor and it is why when covid is on the wain I would like to see Rishi as PMFF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership.
TheScreamingEagles said:
This is starting to feel a bit like a journey towards the horizon.4 -
There are still contempt of court orders in relation to their identities. I think this is tricky. The risk would be that if Salmond is given carte blanche he could use the platform to make allegations against those complainers who he has accused of lying in his evidence to the trial.Carnyx said:
I can't quite work this out. But there was a thing in reporting the court case over the need for anonymity for his accusers. Is this the issue here? i.e. submitting the documents may well breach that anonymity.CarlottaVance said:
I think it is very unlikely that he signed any kind of gagging order in relation to the previous case. The Scottish government caved in and agreed to pay an astonishing level of expenses. he didn't have to give them anything.1 -
Labour is actually polling higher today than back in Spring 2017 under Kezia Dugdale.AndreaParma_82 said:
yes, I corrected myself later. But not fast enough to be able to edit my post.Carnyx said:
Not Ian Murray?AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
However, would Murray want to go for it? SLAB will lose Scottish Parliament elections anyway because SLAB problems aren't due to only Leonard's weak leadership.0 -
Rudi can make the same argument over accepting the gig.rpjs said:
Trump to use hiring Giuliani as evidence of insanity?TheScreamingEagles said:Poor Rudy, he's being set up as the patsy by Trump isn't he?
https://twitter.com/hzeffman/status/13497685659315937291 -
But this is not exactly an impressive boast, is it.justin124 said:
Labour is actually polling higher today than back in Spring 2017 under Kezia Dugdale.AndreaParma_82 said:
yes, I corrected myself later. But not fast enough to be able to edit my post.Carnyx said:
Not Ian Murray?AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
However, would Murray want to go for it? SLAB will lose Scottish Parliament elections anyway because SLAB problems aren't due to only Leonard's weak leadership.0 -
That's remarkable. A lifetime of Tory activism except with just a short break because of Theresa May. Very unusual! And knocks me into a cocked one. Although maybe I'm quite unusual too. I've always voted Labour but I only joined the party in 2017 as a left leaning man well into middle age.Philip_Thompson said:
Since 2004, except for when Theresa May was leader.kinabalu said:
You're a Tory MEMBER as well as voter !!Philip_Thompson said:
Ditto.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And I am a member and reject his interventionMortimer said:
Sky don't get a say in when Boris' leadership ends.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Maybe that is why he withdrew his comments almost as soon as he had made themMortimer said:
SB understands the politics around Covid much better than Sky do....Big_G_NorthWales said:Sky
Steve Baker's coup lasted two hours
How to misjudge the politics over covid
The constituency Baker is speaking to very much do.0 -
I don't want to state the obvious but several of the lines on that graph are clearly going up.CarlottaVance said:4 -
solarflare said:
But this is not exactly an impressive boast, is it.justin124 said:
Labour is actually polling higher today than back in Spring 2017 under Kezia Dugdale.AndreaParma_82 said:
yes, I corrected myself later. But not fast enough to be able to edit my post.Carnyx said:
Not Ian Murray?AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
However, would Murray want to go for it? SLAB will lose Scottish Parliament elections anyway because SLAB problems aren't due to only Leonard's weak leadership.
Indeed not - but in June 2017 Labour still went on to poll over 27% at the GE and increased its representation from 1 to 7 MPs.solarflare said:
But this is not exactly an impressive boast, is it.justin124 said:
Labour is actually polling higher today than back in Spring 2017 under Kezia Dugdale.AndreaParma_82 said:
yes, I corrected myself later. But not fast enough to be able to edit my post.Carnyx said:
Not Ian Murray?AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.
However, would Murray want to go for it? SLAB will lose Scottish Parliament elections anyway because SLAB problems aren't due to only Leonard's weak leadership.
I rather fancy Labour's chances were there to be a by election in Rutherglen.0 -
It is incredible that at this time of national crisis we are being led by someone somanifestly inadequate to the task.dr_spyn said:I watched Boris Johnson's shambolic meeting with The Liaison Committee, his incoherence is extraordinary.
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I was disappointed that Jenny Marra said she was standing down after the birth of her second child. She was an asset. I would have thought this was between Sarwar and Baillie. I met Sarwar during the referendum campaign. Nice suit. Let's leave it at that.Gaussian said:
Shocking decline for the party of Jack McConnell.AndreaParma_82 said:With the resignation of Richard Leonard, Scottish Labour must choose within this pool
Jackie Baillie
Claire Baker
Claudia Beamish
Neil Bibby
Sarah Boyack
James Kelly
Daniel Johnson
Mark Griffin
Rhoda Grant
Monica Lennon
Pauline McNeill
Alex Rowley
Anas Sarwar
Colin Smyth
Their recent "we thought we reached our lowest point but the new one managed to drop further" tradition may still continue at this rate.0 -
Worldometer total deaths 1,994,576. 2m tomorrow.
Spanish flu generally reckoned to have killed 20-50m, which would scale up to 80-200m. Some way to go yet.0 -
I don't want to state the obvious but several of the lines on that graph are clearly going up.
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And English self-impoverishment.williamglenn said:
Don't downplay his role. He's also Minister for Irish Unification.TheScreamingEagles said:
I mentioned earlier the moment Boris Johnson made himself Minister for the Union support for Scottish Independence has surged.FF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership. It really takes off in the summer of 2019 and doesn't look back.
TheScreamingEagles said:
He's Minister for Scottish Independence more like.0 -
No problem with food quantities (fresh or otherwise) at 6pm at my local Sainsbugs.
Can someone explain to me how, if fruit wholesalers can get grapes to my basket from South Africa for £1.50 a punnet, getting some lettuce leaves from Europe is so blinking hard?0 -
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I joined in 2004 as I was annoyed Hague had been followed up with IDS rather than Clarke and wanted a vote in the next election, and was delighted that Cameron whom I voted for won.kinabalu said:
That's remarkable. A lifetime of Tory activism except with just a short break because of Theresa May. Very unusual! And knocks me into a cocked one. Although maybe I'm quite unusual too. I've always voted Labour but I only joined the party in 2017 as a left leaning man well into middle age.Philip_Thompson said:
Since 2004, except for when Theresa May was leader.kinabalu said:
You're a Tory MEMBER as well as voter !!Philip_Thompson said:
Ditto.Big_G_NorthWales said:
And I am a member and reject his interventionMortimer said:
Sky don't get a say in when Boris' leadership ends.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Maybe that is why he withdrew his comments almost as soon as he had made themMortimer said:
SB understands the politics around Covid much better than Sky do....Big_G_NorthWales said:Sky
Steve Baker's coup lasted two hours
How to misjudge the politics over covid
The constituency Baker is speaking to very much do.
In 2015 as I've mentioned before I was disgusted with Theresa May's nasty and xenophobic Conference speech losing all respect for her. I would have voted against her had I had the opportunity (though not a particular fan of Leadsom it would have been an anti-May vote). I quit when she won.
As a result despite being a member most of my adult life, Cameron is the only leader I ever voted for. Was denied a vote in 2016 and wasn't a member but was delighted Johnson won in 2019. Would have voted for him had I not already quit the party.1 -
Economically anxious.williamglenn said:0 -
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If you were to take the worst aspects of every absurd prejudiced caricature that Scots could dream up about the English, multiply them by ten and somehow fashion them into a human being, it would be Boris Johnson. For the SNP every day he remains PM is a day that they are winning.FF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership. It really takes off in the summer of 2019 and doesn't look back.
TheScreamingEagles said:2 -
Could be both!Scott_xP said:0 -
Pretty much everywhere apart from Wales and the original T4 areas it seems.Alistair said:
I don't want to state the obvious but several of the lines on that graph are clearly going up.CarlottaVance said:
So looks like T4/lockdown is working, but needs time to work in the rest of the country.0 -
Yes I think thats right.OnlyLivingBoy said:
If you were to take the worst aspects of every absurd prejudiced caricature that Scots could dream up about the English, multiply them by ten and somehow fashion them into a human being, it would be Boris Johnson. For the SNP every day he remains PM is a day that they are winning.FF43 said:It is impressive that the explosion in support for independence is so closely aligned with Boris Johnson's premiership. It really takes off in the summer of 2019 and doesn't look back.
TheScreamingEagles said:
The Boris paradox for the Sturge is every day he is PM, support for Indy remains, but she won't get an IndyRef whilst he remains.
I expect she's hoping, Micawber like, that something will turn up - like a hung parliament where the only option for Starmer is a Lab-SNP coalition.
Of course, the very idea of the latter helps the Tories in about 50 seats south of the border....2 -
You mean one legislated for in the only parliament with power to do so? Errr, F- in constitutional politics for you Scotty.Scott_xP said:
BoZo can't stop her holding a referendum with the same legal weight as the Brexit vote.Mortimer said:The Boris paradox for the Sturge is every day he is PM, support for Indy remains, but she won't get an IndyRef whilst he remains.
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Rather concerning that the rate of vaccinating in the best performing EU countries is either falling (Denmark) or flattening (Italy):
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
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Trump better have pardons for his family ready next Wednesday and ensure they are close by so they can be handed to them in person there and then.Scott_xP said:
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Saw a tweet earlier which suggested IIRC that Denmark looked to be reaching the limits of the supply from that much lauded EU vaccine procurement programme.another_richard said:Rather concerning that the rate of vaccinating in the best performing EU countries is either falling (Denmark) or flattening (Italy):
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
Suggests supply constraints.
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BBC News - Marcus Rashford calls on PM for wider free school meal review
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55670096
I can see this ending in free school meals for all during term time and holidays.0 -
It won't get to that point - which means even though we've done disastrously we've also managed to pull off a miracle.IshmaelZ said:Worldometer total deaths 1,994,576. 2m tomorrow.
Spanish flu generally reckoned to have killed 20-50m, which would scale up to 80-200m. Some way to go yet.1 -
It's showing the number of active cases rather than daily new cases. Not very helpful when talking about R.Alistair said:
I don't want to state the obvious but several of the lines on that graph are clearly going up.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Scottish Labour are now the Watford of political parties.Scott_xP said:0 -
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I would have no problem with that but in all this his football is suffering and he was taken off v BurnleyFrancisUrquhart said:BBC News - Marcus Rashford calls on PM for wider free school meal review
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55670096
I can see this ending in free school meals for all during term time and holidays.
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I would.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would have no problem with that but in all this his football is suffering and he was taken off v BurnleyFrancisUrquhart said:BBC News - Marcus Rashford calls on PM for wider free school meal review
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55670096
I can see this ending in free school meals for all during term time and holidays.
The state should not be providing what parents can.
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Italy has done 930,678 vaccinations out of 1,408,875 doses available. However, 490,425 of them were delivered on 11-12 Januaryanother_richard said:Rather concerning that the rate of vaccinating in the best performing EU countries is either falling (Denmark) or flattening (Italy):
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
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I have never disliked it! I used to be quite partial to a Hawaiian although opportunities are limited these days!Mortimer said:
Given we now seem to agree on everything (and I saw your very kind words last night too), I assume you're a big pineapple on pizza fan, too?Anabobazina said:
Regrettable as I find it, I think you have a point.Mortimer said:
This is exactly the position of the rebels on the right. In the absence of any opposition from Labour to endless lockdowns, the fiscal hawks want to ensure enough pressure is kept on the Govt.Anabobazina said:
Yes, I'm pretty much the opposite of a Baker Fan Boy, but he's a useful outrider in keeping government under pressure on exit strategy. We have seen on here that many seek to reduce covid risk to near zero, rather than balance it with other risks.Stocky said:Need a timetable out though.
Baker asking for a timetable is probably a bit previous given we haven't yet got the data we need, but I'd rather have that pressure on than not.
It is from the right that the pressure for 24/7 vaccinations have come. It was from the right that the pressure for parliamentary scrutiny of new regs has come.
The right are driving better decision making. Starmer might learn something from that....if he wasn't dominated by the union position.1 -
No matter how bad things are - it could be worse
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Evening all!
Just catching up with today’s posts from the world of PB.
Sorry that the SLAB knives have finally reached Ronald Leotard’s heart.
Thinking of who should be the next victim.
Mrs Fairliered thinks it should be someone who won their constituency - not a list MSP. That limits the choices to Iain Gray (retiring), Daniel Johnston (who?) or Jackie Baillie. Being a compulsive liar should eliminate Jackie Baillie from the competition (but probably won’t). Preferring to load the bullets for someone else to fire probably will. It will be interesting to see how she performs at FMQs over the next few weeks.
The Malc award for comedy performance would surely choose James Kelly, the only candidate who was rejected for “The Zombies” because he was too inanimate.
The favourite is Anas Sarwar, who is unlikely to be able to maintain SLAB’s recently gained second place in the Scottish opinion polls, despite the competition from Baroness Davidson and her alluring message of “Scots - you are shite”.
40% of Scottish Labour supporters are in favour of Scottish independence. Many of the other 60% probably put other policies before independence, as the Scottish HYUFDs already vote Conservative. If SLAB want to regain voters from the SNP, they could be more neutral on independence, and choose Alex Rowley.
Personally, I think that SLAB need to skip a generation, and choose from Monica Lennon, or an outsider who has impressed me at FMQs, Pauline McNeill.
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I guess that's it chaps, Brexit's over! Well done, Scott - what will you be wearing on Reunification Day next week?Scott_xP said:0 -
If its not sorted out then it will surely become a big issue soon.Mortimer said:
Saw a tweet earlier which suggested IIRC that Denmark looked to be reaching the limits of the supply from that much lauded EU vaccine procurement programme.another_richard said:Rather concerning that the rate of vaccinating in the best performing EU countries is either falling (Denmark) or flattening (Italy):
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
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The graph is of total number of active cases. The tweeter says that numbers of new cases are dropping everywhere. The drop in new cases will take a week or so to show as a drop in the active total.Alistair said:
I don't want to state the obvious but several of the lines on that graph are clearly going up.CarlottaVance said:0 -
What would happen if an MP (Kenny MacAskill?) were to name the alphabet women under parliamentary privilege? Would that resolve the conundrum?DavidL said:
There are still contempt of court orders in relation to their identities. I think this is tricky. The risk would be that if Salmond is given carte blanche he could use the platform to make allegations against those complainers who he has accused of lying in his evidence to the trial.Carnyx said:
I can't quite work this out. But there was a thing in reporting the court case over the need for anonymity for his accusers. Is this the issue here? i.e. submitting the documents may well breach that anonymity.CarlottaVance said:
I think it is very unlikely that he signed any kind of gagging order in relation to the previous case. The Scottish government caved in and agreed to pay an astonishing level of expenses. he didn't have to give them anything.0 -
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BoZo can't stop her holding a referendum with the same legal weight as the Brexit vote.Mortimer said:The Boris paradox for the Sturge is every day he is PM, support for Indy remains, but she won't get an IndyRef whilst he remains.
But in advance of the Brexit vote there were political statements made to the effect that the result would be honoured - that it was De Facto binding if not De Jure. There is no such political intent re- any Referendum organised by Sturgeon and the SNP. Much more likely is a boycott of such an event by the pro-Union parties and their supporters.Scott_xP said:
BoZo can't stop her holding a referendum with the same legal weight as the Brexit vote.Mortimer said:The Boris paradox for the Sturge is every day he is PM, support for Indy remains, but she won't get an IndyRef whilst he remains.
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That's like saying the First Word War War was trivial because an order of magnitude more people died in the the Second World War.IshmaelZ said:Worldometer total deaths 1,994,576. 2m tomorrow.
Spanish flu generally reckoned to have killed 20-50m, which would scale up to 80-200m. Some way to go yet.0 -
The Club Med Big Three are doing absolutely terribly. Really need Italy, France, Spain to up their game.another_richard said:Rather concerning that the rate of vaccinating in the best performing EU countries is either falling (Denmark) or flattening (Italy):
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations
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This is the point. The bridges are burnt; the boats are burnt. There is no way back. So the fishermen, for example, are utterly screwed. There is nothing the Johnson government can do for them, beyond tossing them some cash, and they don't seem to be too much up for that.BluestBlue said:
I guess that's it chaps, Brexit's over! Well done, Scott - what will you be wearing on Reunification Day next week?Scott_xP said:0 -
Guardian: Seriously ill Covid patients are being transferred from overstretched London hospitals to intensive care units almost 300 miles away in Newcastle, the Guardian can reveal.
The crisis engulfing the capital’s hospitals is so severe that in recent days patients have also been moved 67 miles to Northampton, 125 miles to Birmingham and 167 miles to Sheffield.0 -
On a related note the zoe covid number of infected peaked on the 11th with the number of new daily cases having dropped significantly:TrèsDifficile said:
The graph is of total number of active cases. The tweeter says that numbers of new cases are dropping everywhere. The drop in new cases will take a week or so to show as a drop in the active total.Alistair said:
I don't want to state the obvious but several of the lines on that graph are clearly going up.CarlottaVance said:
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That sounds like me. I realised that there was now no one alive who knew all that I had done in my lifetime. Like many people in lockdown I have written a memoir of my life and it will be filed with my will.kle4 said:
I knew a chap, super organised and a locally known figure, who not only put together all the detail for his funeral 10 years prior without telling anyone, but when he knew things were approaching their end provided a short biographical summary of his career involvement in things, seemingly as he wanted to be helpful as it can be difficult to find people who know all the details of when someone worked at x, represented y and so on.Carnyx said:
I'll tell you something from personal experience, with a colleague and with family members - writing that obituary when the subject is still alive and can be asked is the best way to do it. Not Tactful, though ...kle4 said:
Usually people wait for the bad election results before quitting. All the union party leaders might as well do it (maybe not SLD).Pulpstar said:https://twitter.com/paulhutcheon/status/1349746930155446274 Momentous news from Scotland.
Reading your obituary whilst still alive is the best way to experience it.CarlottaVance said:1 -
So fewer think its having a negative impact than voted Remain.Scott_xP said:
That's quite remarkable really.1 -
Of course he would! It has made him PM, a job far above his talents should have allowed.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Was it worth tearing apart the country for 5 years, the loss of jobs, rights and respect for the rule of law, the likely breakup of the union and already the separation of NI's economy from GBs?
Or even for the Tory party, the end of the party of pro business, from the party of reducing red tape to finding extra red tape everywhere, the shame of replacing the likes of Hammond, Gauke, Stewart and Clarke with Raab, Williamson and Rees Mogg?0 -
Funny how you lot suddenly care about fishermen.FF43 said:
This is the point. The bridges are burnt; the boats are burnt. There is no way back. So the fishermen, for example, are utterly screwed. There is nothing the Johnson government can do for them, beyond tossing them some cash, and they don't seem to be too much up for that.BluestBlue said:
I guess that's it chaps, Brexit's over! Well done, Scott - what will you be wearing on Reunification Day next week?Scott_xP said:1 -
Whoscored have him as 12th best player in the Premier league this year, thats about his level (he should improve a bit further at his age), he is not underperforming.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would have no problem with that but in all this his football is suffering and he was taken off v BurnleyFrancisUrquhart said:BBC News - Marcus Rashford calls on PM for wider free school meal review
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55670096
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Of course he can, any referendum without UK government and Westminster consent would be illegal and irrelevant as Madrid proved when it ignored the illegal referendum held by the Catalan governmentScott_xP said:
BoZo can't stop her holding a referendum with the same legal weight as the Brexit vote.Mortimer said:The Boris paradox for the Sturge is every day he is PM, support for Indy remains, but she won't get an IndyRef whilst he remains.
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Planning a visit to the local fish shop / smokehouse / farm shop tomorrow. Their main business was selling fresh shellfish to Italy. Should I be looking for some bargains?0
