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  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151
    We're FREE !!!


  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,572
    edited December 2020

    Hope the needle manufacturers are prepared...
    As well you mentioned it, we might have missed that point.
  • not_on_firenot_on_fire Posts: 4,449

    High early youth vote in Georgia: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/georgia-runoff-youth-vote/2020/12/30/8104720c-4605-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html

    But then we heard all that in the December 2019 UK election. Remember the 'youthquake'?

    Honestly, never heard it being mentioned in the 2019 election. Yes in the 2017 GE where it did seem to be a factor.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,572
    Scott_xP said:
    If we really wanted to sort out the schools situation, these 1500 soldiers would be much more usefully employed in a full assault on Great Smith Street.
  • This is a very powerful message from an ICU doctor with Rachel Burden on 5 live and is not emphasised enough - hands, face, space


    https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1344543533173190663?s=09
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151
    ydoethur said:

    If we really wanted to sort out the schools situation, these 1500 soldiers would be much more usefully employed in a full assault on Great Smith Street.

    I installed a wireless network there once
  • Scott_xP said:
    Is there any minister in any government anywhere on earth more ridiculous than manchild of destiny Gavin Williamson?

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,572
    Scott_xP said:

    I installed a wireless network there once
    You should have forced them to use 5G instead. Preferably installed by Huawei...
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,572

    Is there any minister in any government anywhere on earth more ridiculous than manchild of destiny Gavin Williamson?

    Yes. His Number Two, Nick Gibb.
  • Is there any minister in any government anywhere on earth more ridiculous than manchild of destiny Gavin Williamson?

    No and I am a conservative member
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    ydoethur said:

    As well you mentioned it, we might have missed that point.
    Please do inject some humour into this tired ol site! Feliz año nuevo a todos!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151

    Is there any minister in any government anywhere on earth more ridiculous than manchild of destiny Gavin Williamson?

    yes. BoZo
  • Some good news:

    The recovery highlights the resilience of the UK’s digital economy, which now accounts for 10 per cent of all job openings.

    Despite the impact of the pandemic, venture capital investment in UK tech firms rose to fresh highs in 2020 as Britain continues to lead the way in Europe.

    Tech companies raised $15bn (£11bn) this year, a slight increase on the $14.8bn achieved in 2019 and higher than the rest of Europe combined, according to data from Dealroom.


    https://www.cityam.com/uk-tech-jobs-bounce-backs-as-investment-hits-record-high/
  • Some good news:

    The recovery highlights the resilience of the UK’s digital economy, which now accounts for 10 per cent of all job openings.

    Despite the impact of the pandemic, venture capital investment in UK tech firms rose to fresh highs in 2020 as Britain continues to lead the way in Europe.

    Tech companies raised $15bn (£11bn) this year, a slight increase on the $14.8bn achieved in 2019 and higher than the rest of Europe combined, according to data from Dealroom.


    https://www.cityam.com/uk-tech-jobs-bounce-backs-as-investment-hits-record-high/

    Digital is Brexit-proof - as long as we get it right on immigration and data. It's definitely the area to be involved in.

  • Digital is Brexit-proof - as long as we get it right on immigration and data. It's definitely the area to be involved in.
    Indeed:

    https://www.cityam.com/software-startup-ondato-moves-to-london-in-post-brexit-boost/
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 73,572

    Digital is Brexit-proof - as long as we get it right on immigration and data. It's definitely the area to be involved in.

    Digital doesn't care whether we're in or out, because it's all binary.
  • This is a very powerful message from an ICU doctor with Rachel Burden on 5 live and is not emphasised enough - hands, face, space


    https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1344543533173190663?s=09

    No mask, no lockdown ghouls like Julia Hartley Brewer, Laurence Fox and Toby Young should hang their heads in shame.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    felix said:

    Please do inject some humour into this tired ol site! Feliz año nuevo a todos!
    Feliz año Nuevo, Felix!
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,550
    edited December 2020
    RobD said:

    So they do have 4 million doses ready, it's just they haven't been verified.

    A spokesman for the Department of Health and Social Care confirmed that AstraZeneca "have bottled four million doses but have not gone through the safety checks for all the batches", adding: "The nuance is they do have four million ready to go, but without knowing the exact conditions the MHRA have set I don't think it is feasible to check four million doses in one go."


    And another 15 million ready to be bottled

    Mr Johnson promised that "tens of millions" of doses would be available by the end of March, and The Telegraph understands that AstraZeneca already has 15 million doses waiting to be put into vials as soon as required. That could be done in a matter of days at specialist factories in the UK and Europe.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2020/12/30/britain-races-roll-covid-vaccines-bid-avoid-third-lockdown/

    Matt Hancock really should have been clear with this yesterday...his statement caused a lot of confusion.

    But it is good news, now juat have to hope the logistics of vaccinating 2 million people a week will come to pass.
  • FeersumEnjineeyaFeersumEnjineeya Posts: 4,766
    edited December 2020
    I expect we'll see a lot of this in the future: the EU making laws, which the UK then mirrors because it makes no sense (for manufacturers) not to do so:

    Drone users face new rules across Europe and UK

    As of 11pm tonight, we will become rule takers instead of rule makers.
  • No mask, no lockdown ghouls like Julia Hartley Brewer, Laurence Fox and Toby Young should hang their heads in shame.

    Indeed and it should be compulsory listening for everyone.

    The scary thing is the age group in his care that are not the 80 plus but largely middle aged and including him losing a pregnant woman last night
  • Indeed:

    https://www.cityam.com/software-startup-ondato-moves-to-london-in-post-brexit-boost/

    The crucial thing is that companies can quickly and easily fill vacancies they have, and can rely on a free flow of data between the EU and the UK. If we get both of those, there is absolutely no reason not to build digital businesses in the UK - and plenty of good reasons to actively do so.

  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151

    As of 11pm tonight, we will become rule takers instead of rule makers.

    FREEDOM !!!
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151

    If we get both of those, there is absolutely no reason not to build digital businesses in the UK

    Save a reactionary Government intent on dismantling the rule of law...
  • The crucial thing is that companies can quickly and easily fill vacancies they have, and can rely on a free flow of data between the EU and the UK. If we get both of those, there is absolutely no reason not to build digital businesses in the UK - and plenty of good reasons to actively do so.

    They shouldn't have much difficulty meeting the immigration salary threshold:

    Salaries in the tech industry are considerably higher than the national average at £53,318, up four per cent on 2019 figures despite low inflation.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,471

    Nominated for 15 Oscars - that tells you his work is solidly wonderful. The Shawshank Redemption, Fargo, A Beautiful Mind, Skyfall, Sicario, Blade Runner 2049, and 1917 - that's a hell of a body of work right there.
    ...and perhaps the best of the lot 'The Assassination of Jesse James....'
  • Good balanced fact based video on impact of Brexit on EPL...

    https://youtu.be/ioa9wW7wMwo
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited December 2020

    No mask, no lockdown ghouls like Julia Hartley Brewer, Laurence Fox and Toby Young should hang their heads in shame.

    As should the media companies who continue to indulge them.

    In a pandemic, we need more facts and fewer opinions.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Betting?

    A Frenchman can bet with Ladbrokes in the UK, no?
    Betting is a good example of the UKs failure to prosper in EU structures. We had the best companies globally by the 2000s, several years ahead IT wise and better regulated than most. EU courts repeatedly found national govts not complying with EU law and protecting their own companies, often state run, but no effective enforcement action was ever taken. We did not use our influence to make it happen, nor made a political push for mutual recognition or harmonisation of standards and licensing. We just left our industry to struggle on.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    ydoethur said:

    I got Southam Observer, Philip Thompson and Sandpit to like the same post. I think I'll quit while I'm ahead!

    Have a good morning.
    There are 10 types of people: those who understand binary, and those who don’t.
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,471
    kle4 said:

    Makes sense. I'm a little surprised he has accepted it, he could make a powerful message rejecting it.
    Like not giving tax dodgers knighthoods because it sets a bad example?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,134
    Williamson slowly sinking on R4
  • No mask, no lockdown ghouls like Julia Hartley Brewer, Laurence Fox and Toby Young should hang their heads in shame.

    Ive not seen anyone in a shop without a mask for a couple of months now, is not wearing masks still an issue?
  • IanB2 said:

    Williamson slowly sinking on R4

    Improving then, he normally quickly drowns.
  • IanB2 said:

    Williamson slowly sinking on R4

    Doing better than usual then ;-)
  • Sandpit said:

    As should the media companies who continue to indulge them.

    In a pandemic, we need more facts and fewer opinions.
    The wave of cases that will hit in next few days is down to Johnson and his downright dangerous 'saving xmas' policy of briefing journalists for weeks in late autumn/early December that they 'would do anything to save xmas' and that 'one more lockdown would be enough to save xmas' and so on and on.

  • MysticroseMysticrose Posts: 4,688
    ydoethur said:

    I just want to see Ossoff duffing up Mitch McConnell on the floor of the Senate.
    Me too. He's a strong performer.

    250/1 available for the 2024 Presidency with Ladbrokes. Yep I know it's ridiculous but I've had a fun flutter.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,287

    Betting is a good example of the UKs failure to prosper in EU structures. We had the best companies globally by the 2000s, several years ahead IT wise and better regulated than most. EU courts repeatedly found national govts not complying with EU law and protecting their own companies, often state run, but no effective enforcement action was ever taken. We did not use our influence to make it happen, nor made a political push for mutual recognition or harmonisation of standards and licensing. We just left our industry to struggle on.
    I too have been frustrated trying to place a bet while abroad. Gambling regulation is a national competence though.

    So, how is that access to be improved by Brexit? What opportunities do our bookies have now that they didn't have before?
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100

    The crucial thing is that companies can quickly and easily fill vacancies they have, and can rely on a free flow of data between the EU and the UK. If we get both of those, there is absolutely no reason not to build digital businesses in the UK - and plenty of good reasons to actively do so.

    My firm is moving digital work out of the UK due to cost.
  • Foxy said:

    I too have been frustrated trying to place a bet while abroad. Gambling regulation is a national competence though.

    So, how is that access to be improved by Brexit? What opportunities do our bookies have now that they didn't have before?
    I was not making a case for Brexit, but a criticism of our govts (all flavours) mismanagement of our membership of the EU.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,287

    Ive not seen anyone in a shop without a mask for a couple of months now, is not wearing masks still an issue?
    Quite a few maskless in Leicester when I was running errands on Monday.
  • Jonathan said:

    My firm is moving digital work out of the UK due to cost.
    To where?
  • MarqueeMarkMarqueeMark Posts: 54,572
    Scott_xP said:

    yes. BoZo
    Is there any commentator on any government anywhere on earth more ridiculous than retweeter Scott_xP?

    "BoZo". You pillock....
  • Scott_xP said:
    Indeed. As I pointed out last night on the thread Johnson never ever learns. It is quite incredible that after repeatedly making promises on timescales and delivery that turn out to be bombastic rubbish he does it yet again.

    It's like the pony only has one trick.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,287

    I was not making a case for Brexit, but a criticism of our govts (all flavours) mismanagement of our membership of the EU.
    Sure. But there is no chance at all of influencing those rules now is there?
  • IanB2IanB2 Posts: 51,134
    IanB2 said:

    Williamson slowly sinking on R4

    He must be some sort of AI experiment. This is how I would expect Robopolitician to be responding to questioning, going on the radio pre-programmed with a small selection of platitudes.
  • Foxy said:

    Sure. But there is no chance at all of influencing those rules now is there?
    None.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151

    Indeed. As I pointed out last night on the thread Johnson never ever learns. It is quite incredible that after repeatedly making promises on timescales and delivery that turn out to be bombastic rubbish he does it yet again.

    It's like the pony only has one trick.

    If the same numpties clap every time he does it, why change the act?
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    Foxy said:

    I too have been frustrated trying to place a bet while abroad. Gambling regulation is a national competence though.

    So, how is that access to be improved by Brexit? What opportunities do our bookies have now that they didn't have before?
    Wait until you actually live abroad and try to place bets. At times I’ve resorted to having a mate in the U.K. pass by a bookies’ shop.

    Everyone but Betfair has shut me down online, and they’ve now started blocking IPs and asking more KYC questions.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    No mask, no lockdown ghouls like Julia Hartley Brewer, Laurence Fox and Toby Young should hang their heads in shame.

    Not to mention Piers Corbyn.
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,550
    edited December 2020
    When it comes to gambling, most European countries have ballsed up their regulations with total misunderstanding of situations e.g. poker, France, Spain, Italy all decided to ring fence games within their own countries without realising you need liquidity to keep games going. Also the way they taxed the games made games incredibly difficult to win in, which forced all the high volume players to leave those countries, further eroding the liquidity.

    The UK made sensible decision to regulate, tax in a fair way and kept rest of the world access to ensure liquidity.

    Brexit or no Brexit is irrelevant to all of this, as gambling is decided on a national level.
  • They shouldn't have much difficulty meeting the immigration salary threshold:

    Salaries in the tech industry are considerably higher than the national average at £53,318, up four per cent on 2019 figures despite low inflation.

    Yep, salary should not be an issue. Speed is the challenge. Up to now, any ambitious programmer, engineer or developer from the EU could turn up in London and get work almost immediately. We can't lose that, as momentum is so important when you are building a company.

  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180

    Good balanced fact based video on impact of Brexit on EPL...

    https://youtu.be/ioa9wW7wMwo

    If Brexit destroys the Premier league that would be an unexpected bonus.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    felix said:

    Not to mention Piers Corbyn.
    He’s had at least three £10k fines so far, for organising events in breach of restrictions. What’s his source of income, that he has £30k spare?
  • Sandpit said:

    Wait until you actually live abroad and try to place bets. At times I’ve resorted to having a mate in the U.K. pass by a bookies’ shop.

    Everyone but Betfair has shut me down online, and they’ve now started blocking IPs and asking more KYC questions.
    Are you not concerned by betting from your location at all?
  • Sandpit said:

    He’s had at least three £10k fines so far, for organising events in breach of restrictions. What’s his source of income, that he has £30k spare?
    Iran?
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 51,287
    IanB2 said:

    He must be some sort of AI experiment. This is how I would expect Robopolitician to be responding to questioning, going on the radio pre-programmed with a small selection of platitudes.
    At least Williamson, Hancock and Schapps are willing to appear for questioning.

    If there is a second thing that I want to see the back of in 2021 its "We asked the government to respond but no minister was available". There is real contempt for the public when they do that.

  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Are you not concerned by betting from your location at all?
    The local ISPs used to block U.K. bookies’ websites, but they don’t any more for reasons I don’t know. It’s not as if there are any local bookies or casinos, although there are state-run liquour stores that the locals are banned from entering, and at least three hotels that have built function rooms that can be converted into casinos within days, if the law was to change to allow them.
  • felixfelix Posts: 15,180
    Sandpit said:

    He’s had at least three £10k fines so far, for organising events in breach of restrictions. What’s his source of income, that he has £30k spare?
    Luvvies rarely lack cash.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151
    Foxy said:

    At least Williamson, Hancock and Schapps are willing to appear for questioning.

    If there is a second thing that I want to see the back of in 2021 its "We asked the government to respond but no minister was available". There is real contempt for the public when they do that.

    I think it's the other way round.

    Appearing on TV to lie blatantly is more contemptuous than saying nothing
  • eekeek Posts: 29,741
    Sandpit said:

    Wait until you actually live abroad and try to place bets. At times I’ve resorted to having a mate in the U.K. pass by a bookies’ shop.

    Everyone but Betfair has shut me down online, and they’ve now started blocking IPs and asking more KYC questions.
    2017 election I was in India and couldn't even get to this site let alone place a bet.
  • one of today's hostages to fortune:

    "The NHS has a clear vaccine delivery plan and will roll it out far and wide across the UK, as quickly as we receive it; " : Hancock (Telegraph)
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,550
    edited December 2020
    Sandpit said:

    He’s had at least three £10k fines so far, for organising events in breach of restrictions. What’s his source of income, that he has £30k spare?
    I don't believe he paid them. He has fought at least one of them in court and the decision was that he broke the rules but spent 12hrs in custody and that was enough of a punishment.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-55162041

    Advantage of being rich and being able to afford good legal representation....
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,580
    edited December 2020

    one of today's hostages to fortune:

    "The NHS has a clear vaccine delivery plan and will roll it out far and wide across the UK, as quickly as we receive it; " : Hancock (Telegraph)

    Is that the plan or the vaccine?

    And Good Morning everybody. Although it isn't, really.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    one of today's hostages to fortune:

    "The NHS has a clear vaccine delivery plan and will roll it out far and wide across the UK, as quickly as we receive it; " : Hancock (Telegraph)

    To be fair to him, with the military, civil service and an unlimited budget behind the rollout, as well as the likes of Tesco asking if they can also help out, a lack of vaccine supply is much more likely to be the sticking point than a lack of infrastructure and logistics.
  • IshmaelZIshmaelZ Posts: 21,830

    Is that the plan or the vaccine?

    And Good Morning everybody. Although it isn't, really.
    Snow day on Dartmoor.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Is that the plan or the vaccine?

    And Good Morning everybody. Although it isn't, really.
    Good afternoon from four hours in the future!
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 22,100

    To where?
    Berlin and Lisbon.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151
    Sandpit said:

    To be fair to him, with the military, civil service and an unlimited budget behind the rollout, as well as the likes of Tesco asking if they can also help out, a lack of vaccine supply is much more likely to be the sticking point than a lack of infrastructure and logistics.

    Yesterday the government tried to publish a list of schools that would be closed.

    Took them 2 attempts...

    Logistics is not their strong suit
  • When it comes to gambling, most European countries have ballsed up their regulations with total misunderstanding of situations e.g. poker, France, Spain, Italy all decided to ring fence games within their own countries without realising you need liquidity to keep games going. Also the way they taxed the games made games incredibly difficult to win in, which forced all the high volume players to leave those countries, further eroding the liquidity.

    The UK made sensible decision to regulate, tax in a fair way and kept rest of the world access to ensure liquidity.

    Brexit or no Brexit is irrelevant to all of this, as gambling is decided on a national level.

    The relevance is that 1) the national regulations have to be applied fairly to companies from different countries, and 2) it didnt have to be that way.

    A member state is allowed to say we dont do gambling, or its for over 25s, or cant be on football etc. It is not allowed to arbitrarily discriminate to help their own national companies against those of a different member state. In country after country the ECJ found this to be happening and ordered govts to comply, but it has never been enforced.

    The ECJ was also flirting with the single market provisions overriding national competence for gambling in the 2003 Gambelli case. If the dominant players in the gambling market were French or German instead of from the UK, then their govts would have pressed hard and effectively to leverage that decision. We did little if anything.

    It would have made a real difference to our EU trade deficit, conservatively if there had been a single market across the EU, the UK companies would have been bringing in another £5bn a year from the betting industry, probably more.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022
    edited December 2020

    Yep, salary should not be an issue. Speed is the challenge. Up to now, any ambitious programmer, engineer or developer from the EU could turn up in London and get work almost immediately. We can't lose that, as momentum is so important when you are building a company.

    Yes, a real test of the new immigration system will be the speed of processing work visas. It needs to allow people on tourist visas or passport stamps to quickly transfer to a work visa, with a job offer meeting the immigration requirements.

    As a reference, in the UAE this process takes a week or two maximium to process a visa for a worker for a specific employer or someone from abroad setting up a new business.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,580
    Sandpit said:

    Good afternoon from four hours in the future!
    Does the future work? Must say that my son, who lives in Thailand, which is even nearer tomorrow, seems considerably better off, in terms of being able to ;live his life, than we are.
  • OldKingColeOldKingCole Posts: 34,580
    Scott_xP said:
    Is this what Williamson means by taking the battle to the virus?
  • Burnley takeover: ALK Capital completes deal by buying 84% controlling stake - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55495853

    Sean Dyche might now be able to sign more than just his autograph...
  • RogerRoger Posts: 20,471

    Good balanced fact based video on impact of Brexit on EPL...

    https://youtu.be/ioa9wW7wMwo

    Bit patronising isn't it? You can't go to Hollywood until you've served your apprenticeship at Cleethorpes Rep. Maybe works for you maybe not. Just more sidelining of the UK. Something we'll have to get used to
  • FrancisUrquhartFrancisUrquhart Posts: 83,550
    edited December 2020
    Roger said:

    Bit patronising isn't it? You can't go to Hollywood until you've served your apprenticeship at Cleethorpes Rep. Maybe works for you maybe not. Just more sidelining of the UK. Something we'll have to get used to
    Hmmm who do I trust on football, Rog, wrong on everything, Tifo Football, known as one of the best and most informed sources of football out there.....
  • Scott_xP said:
    The reshuffle can't come quick enough.
  • GardenwalkerGardenwalker Posts: 22,203
    Digital (my sector) has benefited immensely from easy migration from Europe.

    Finding talent has always been a challenge, this has got harder and will get even harder. Yes, salaries are high but a lot of work is often temporary / project based so you don’t necessarily want to hire.

    Having said that, I think the slack will be picked up by hiring workers remotely. Although it was already widespread, the pandemic has shown that it is possible on an industrial scale.
  • Scott_xPScott_xP Posts: 38,151

    I struggle to understand your objection to 'Bozo'. It seems well within the bounds of normal political name-calling to me.

    It is short and snappy, links with Johnson's (affected) name, and conveys a clear message:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown

    Did you similarly object to 'Jezbollah'? Do you object to Captain Hindsight?

    It's the same reason other religious faiths proscribe mocking their prophets...
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,302
    Scott_xP said:

    "I have..." ...delusions of grandeur.
  • I expect we'll see a lot of this in the future: the EU making laws, which the UK then mirrors because it makes no sense (for manufacturers) not to do so:

    Drone users face new rules across Europe and UK

    As of 11pm tonight, we will become rule takers instead of rule makers.

    A right old vassal state.
  • SandpitSandpit Posts: 56,022

    Does the future work? Must say that my son, who lives in Thailand, which is even nearer tomorrow, seems considerably better off, in terms of being able to ;live his life, than we are.
    Looks good from here to be honest. I’ve taken the day off today and will shortly start on the case of sparking we have in the fridge; and next week/year is looking up in terms of work.

    Day-to-day life is pretty much normal here, they have a U.K.-equivalent of around 6,000 cases/day and few deaths thanks to a young population. Bars, cinemas and salons are open with distancing rules. It’s like Level 1 in the U.K.

    The biggest downside is that thousands of British tourists have turned up, many of whom don’t understand how to behave, so I’m avoiding the touristy areas and staying home tonight, where we should get a view of the fireworks from the balcony if the weather behaves (we are around 10 miles from the Burj Khalifa, in direct line of sight).

    Sadly it looks like Europe and North America are in big trouble at the moment, and the vaccines can’t come soon enough. Fingers crossed that 2m a week happens quickly, and the Western world can start getting back to normal by Easter.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 20,177
    Sandpit said:

    Yes, a real test of the new immigration system will be the speed of processing work visas. It needs to allow people on tourist visas or passport stamps to quickly transfer to a work visa, with a job offer meeting the immigration requirements.

    As a reference, in the UAE this process takes a week or two maximium to process a visa for a worker for a specific employer or someone from abroad setting up a new business.
    Are you allowed to look for work on a tourist visa?
  • I expect we'll see a lot of this in the future: the EU making laws, which the UK then mirrors because it makes no sense (for manufacturers) not to do so:

    Drone users face new rules across Europe and UK

    As of 11pm tonight, we will become rule takers instead of rule makers.

    More complete rubbish from you. These have been the rules in the UK for ages. The fact that the EU has decided to copy them is their affair not ours but it makes no difference to drone users here at all.

    Whether people are actually following the rules is a completely different matter.
  • Scott_xP said:
    ‘Combat medics’

    I bet he got an erection when he said that.
  • BenpointerBenpointer Posts: 35,302
    Scott_xP said:

    It's the same reason other religious faiths proscribe mocking their prophets...
    Indeed.

    Ironically, no one punctures Johnson's gravitas and credibility more than he does himself.

    (Of course, BoZo himself would never resort to name-calling, oh no...)
  • Dura_AceDura_Ace Posts: 14,333

    I struggle to understand your objection to 'Bozo'; it seems well within the bounds of normal political name-calling to me. It's short and snappy, links with Johnson's (affected) name, and conveys a clear message:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bozo_the_Clown

    Did you similarly object to 'Jezbollah'? Do you object to Captain Hindsight?
    It's homophonically close to 'bossu' as well so it's got that going for it.

    The swelling is gone and I can type again. I'm back.
  • Dura_Ace said:

    It's homophonically close to 'bossu' as well so it's got that going for it.

    The swelling is gone and I can type again. I'm back.
    Welcome back sir. I may not agree with much of what you post, in fact you can be bloody infuriating, but it is good to see you well enough to post again properly.
  • DavidLDavidL Posts: 55,193
    Scott_xP said:
    So its not really sending out the troops, its making use of what is left of the Army medical corps. Which makes perfect sense. All hands to the pump.

    If 250 medical teams can do 750k a week surely the NHS can do 10x that number? A day's delay roughly equals 500 lives now. The apparently desultory progress on the continent is baffling.
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