For years Trump’s favourite term of abuse was “loser” – now he’s in danger of owning the brand – pol
For years Trump’s favourite term of abuse was “loser” – now he’s in danger of owning the brand – politicalbetting.com
Those who are older enough will remember GE1997 and one of the highlights of the coverage – a live broadcast from the Enfield Southgate constituency where prominent Tory cabinet minister Michael Portillo was defending an 18,000 majority. He lost and the manner and gracious way he responded to this disastrous outcome brought accolades from all sides.
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Wow, that's 2 in a row. I am going out to buy some lottery tickets.2 -
Loser.0
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In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.4 -
Third, like Trump0
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This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.1 -
the biggest soul loser of all time..
How could someone soulless lose their soul ... or did you mean to type 'sore' ?0 -
But you know about his pendulum, right? It hangs in the Science Museum.Stuartinromford said:
I'm a physics teacher and I know Foucault about him.Northern_Al said:
Quite right that Foucault/Derrida etc. should be taught at degree and above level on social sciences/humanities courses, along with many other important thinkers across the spectrum. I do hope that nobody on here, or in government, thinks Foucault should be cancelled.rottenborough said:
Yes. I think the general point is that social science/humanities teaching at uni level has been completely overtaken by Foucault/Derrida et al. mindset. My limit knowledge thru a friend who did an MA is that Foucault was certainly taught.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Tbf I thought Truss's point was that Foucault somehow damaged the philosophy of education through being taught to teachers as part of their PGCEs, not directly to school pupils, though I can't be bothered to check.Alistair said:
Yes let's start with Truss's memory of her education in the 1980s.Casino_Royale said:
Is your memory and experience always consistently 100% reliable and objective?Alistair said:I notice that after opening her speech about her lived experience that Truss then goes and says that lived experience isn't reliable.
Top work.
It's a valuable perspective - one of a number of sources of evidence that should be considered and taken into account - but, it's not an ace card that can and must trump everything else.
If people start to accept it is then it will be open to manipulation.
Glad to see you embrace the limits of empiricism like, checks notes, Foucalt.
But I have never come across these thinkers being taught on teacher training courses. I'm confident that the typical maths/science/geography teacher will never have come across Foucault.
In fact, I'm confident that any survey of teachers would demonstrate that the vast majority would know sod all about Foucault.
Leon was a profound thinker, Michel not so much0 -
Trump should have been impeached on the evidence but the Senate is hyperpartisan these days. If Nixon were still with us, he'd have wondered about the injustice of it all.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.0 -
I don't know about that - he certainly plumbed the depths.YBarddCwsc said:
But you know about his pendulum, right? It hangs in the Science Museum.Stuartinromford said:
I'm a physics teacher and I know Foucault about him.Northern_Al said:
Quite right that Foucault/Derrida etc. should be taught at degree and above level on social sciences/humanities courses, along with many other important thinkers across the spectrum. I do hope that nobody on here, or in government, thinks Foucault should be cancelled.rottenborough said:
Yes. I think the general point is that social science/humanities teaching at uni level has been completely overtaken by Foucault/Derrida et al. mindset. My limit knowledge thru a friend who did an MA is that Foucault was certainly taught.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Tbf I thought Truss's point was that Foucault somehow damaged the philosophy of education through being taught to teachers as part of their PGCEs, not directly to school pupils, though I can't be bothered to check.Alistair said:
Yes let's start with Truss's memory of her education in the 1980s.Casino_Royale said:
Is your memory and experience always consistently 100% reliable and objective?Alistair said:I notice that after opening her speech about her lived experience that Truss then goes and says that lived experience isn't reliable.
Top work.
It's a valuable perspective - one of a number of sources of evidence that should be considered and taken into account - but, it's not an ace card that can and must trump everything else.
If people start to accept it is then it will be open to manipulation.
Glad to see you embrace the limits of empiricism like, checks notes, Foucalt.
But I have never come across these thinkers being taught on teacher training courses. I'm confident that the typical maths/science/geography teacher will never have come across Foucault.
In fact, I'm confident that any survey of teachers would demonstrate that the vast majority would know sod all about Foucault.
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Technically, he was impeached.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
But what were the Democrats supposed to do?
You've got Trump and his officials *admitting* they withheld military aid to damage a political rival.
Ignoring that would have been more damaging to democracy.
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The issue is that it seems abundantly clear that Trump has committed 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and that he was impeached because the Democrats hate him and that he was acquitted because Republicans loved/feared him.Nigelb said:
This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.
The process may be constitutionally mandated but it has been completed degraded and discredited by politicisation.1 -
I bet that verge is going to be covered in bottles of golden liquid which is definitely not Irn Bru. Don’t open those fast food boxes whatever you do..
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It has always been politicised, and it's foolish to think otherwise.Philip_Thompson said:
The issue is that it seems abundantly clear that Trump has committed 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and that he was impeached because the Democrats hate him and that he was acquitted because Republicans loved/feared him.Nigelb said:
This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.
The process may be constitutionally mandated but it has been completed degraded and discredited by politicisation.
It's a far from ideal remedy to a corrupt executive, bu it's the only one there is, outside of the ballot box. You can see what you want to in the evidence presented, but I find it very difficult to believe that it all should simply have been ignored.0 -
More Faust than Foucault.Nigelb said:the biggest soul loser of all time..
How could someone soulless lose their soul ... or did you mean to type 'sore' ?0 -
Trump technically was impeached.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Trump should have been impeached on the evidence but the Senate is hyperpartisan these days. If Nixon were still with us, he'd have wondered about the injustice of it all.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
Nixon technically was not.0 -
No spoilers no spoilers no spoilers no spoilers.FrancisUrquhart said:1 -
Listening to Obama's memoirs on R4, he is talking about meeting Merkel and Brown early in his first term. Amazing how long Merkel has been in power, while we have enjoyed Brown, Cameron, May and the clown.0
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While Trump will certainly be remembered for bad manners it should also be remembered that his margin of defeat, 232 EC votes to 306 for Biden was far closer than the landslide defeats of 489 to 49 EC votes Carter received in 1980 or the 472 to 59 EC vote defeat Hoover suffered in 1932.
Trump is also the only losing Presidential candidate since Nixon in 1960 to also win both Florida and Ohio.
That means if he decides to run again in 2024 he will have a sizeable base of support to do so still and he is already by far the preferred choice of Republican voters for the 2024 GOP nomination
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If Trump had committed high crimes and misdemeanours, why should it matter what Dems feel about him? Pretty sure that their loathing of Trump wasn’t any greater than that of Dems towards Nixon.Philip_Thompson said:
The issue is that it seems abundantly clear that Trump has committed 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and that he was impeached because the Democrats hate him and that he was acquitted because Republicans loved/feared him.Nigelb said:
This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.
The process may be constitutionally mandated but it has been completed degraded and discredited by politicisation.0 -
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it will be interesting to see what Trump's legacy will be without loser and COVID being in the same breath, I cant think of one achievement of his that will stand the test of time, at least his predecessor had Obama-care, and the one before a couple of wars & 9/11 under his belt.0
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That is true, but it really is on me that I dont eat healthy, not prevalence of fast food, adverts or even time. Theres plenty lazier than me and people not being taught to cook as a core skill is key (though when I do cook it's mostly cakes) but it really is an area where the biggest factor is personal responsibility. That people dont prioritise it is understandable, I sure dont, but its usually not about ignorance nor impossibility.RobD said:
It is easier to microwave a ready meal than cook some vegetables yourself though. A diet of apples doesn't sound all that appetizing.Andy_JS said:Also it doesn't take a lot of effort to buy a bag of apples and eat them. Another myth: about healthy food being "difficult to prepare". Patronising nonsense again.
Not a lie for those lower on the greasy pole. You have to rise higher before you are useful enough to defend when you violate the code.Nigelb said:
I was more amused by this from the Mail link.DecrepiterJohnL said:
From the Mail link:williamglenn said:Andrew Lewer sacked for leaking to Guido Fawkes.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9065751/Ministerial-aide-sacked-probe-sharing-letter-urging-Tories-stop-leaking.html
It is understood the Chief Whip was so concerned by the possibility his own letter would leak that he had it formatted in a way that made each copy individually identifiable.
The implication here is that Guido leaked the leaked letter back to the government. Whether or not that actually happened, it will be a further deterrent.
‘If you violate any aspect of the Ministerial Code you will be removed from your position with immediate effect.”...
Now that is news. Or an obvious lie.
Money and family is one stressful quagmire. The last few years I've found myself the highest earning working age person in my extended family on 33k, with several others, with kids and mortgages, struggling to pay for food for themselves. Thank christ my father who'd also needed money in retirement won an amount on a lottery scratch card.RochdalePioneers said:
My ex (we have a 19 year old son) is always desperate for money. Because I am a sucker and I love my son I have always gone above and beyond maintenance - I've literally taken out loans for her in the past and have chucked bits of cash at her when she needs it. And she does need it - a few years of dramatic illness has left her half blind, barely mobile and unable to work. But, as the boy is effectively doing a gap year I gave £5k to keep him going before he starts uni in 2021, money she has had.MarqueeMark said:
So I have been sympathetic. And generous. Even after she twice tried to blackmail me for more (I had the police on her for one of them and just called her bluff on the other). But here and now I am newly self employed with a major house move imminent and cash is entertainingly tight at times, so the bank of ex is closed down.
Have politely but increasingly firmly said no to recent requests for cash. So you can imagine my bemusement when the boy advised that his mum was incommunicado for a bit. The same night she had asked for more cash (as "I have no money I owe him money and its Christmas") she had hired a taxi to shuttle her down to the all night garage to buy fags, had left the phone in the taxi which, when it was called back, had of course not been found.
Tea and sympathy only go so far. So many people are in dire straights through circumstance and the system has been explicitly designed to be as punitive as possible to them. Then again, sometimes people are just malingering fucks.
Much sympathy to all those struggling out there, and those trying to help.
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Speaking of the 1970s, older PBers will be thanking Mr Heath for their £10 Christmas bonus.Philip_Thompson said:
Trump technically was impeached.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Trump should have been impeached on the evidence but the Senate is hyperpartisan these days. If Nixon were still with us, he'd have wondered about the injustice of it all.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
Nixon technically was not.0 -
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For some of us, Brown is always with us, constantly making interventions all over the shop 🙁IanB2 said:Listening to Obama's memoirs on R4, he is talking about meeting Merkel and Brown early in his first term. Amazing how long Merkel has been in power, while we have enjoyed Brown, Cameron, May and the clown.
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Turn the internet off until you've watched it.kle4 said:
No spoilers no spoilers no spoilers no spoilers.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
I think winning has become so important that the spirit of the rules no longer matters, and justifies changing the rules for self advantage in their eyes. With Trump, and the pretence of simply engaging in available challenge despite having no legitimate grounds to make so many, they are but one step away from those places where theres violence at an election as it really will be life and death if you lose. Hopefully they can revert to type now rather than ramp it up, but at state level I doubt it, and it becomes an escalating thing with the sides.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.2 -
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I actually dont mind in truth. On star wars I like it but dont get super invested by it. That's why i can admit to thinking the criticisms of the prequel trilogy are overblown.eek said:
Turn the internet off until you've watched it.kle4 said:
No spoilers no spoilers no spoilers no spoilers.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
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In the interests of full disclosure I have exited the Georgia Senate Market (at a modest 10% profit). The Georgia Covid numbers are not as bad as I thought they were going to be and as a result Leoffler's Covid-denial will not be as large a factor as I thought.0
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Yeah, I'll take a lecture on 'personal responsibility' from fucking Johnson.HYUFD said:5 -
Boy who cried wolf syndrome.Theuniondivvie said:
If Trump had committed high crimes and misdemeanours, why should it matter what Dems feel about him? Pretty sure that their loathing of Trump wasn’t any greater than that of Dems towards Nixon.Philip_Thompson said:
The issue is that it seems abundantly clear that Trump has committed 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and that he was impeached because the Democrats hate him and that he was acquitted because Republicans loved/feared him.Nigelb said:
This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.
The process may be constitutionally mandated but it has been completed degraded and discredited by politicisation.
Yes there was a wolf in the end, but Dem voters were banging on about impeachment since November 2016 before Trump was even inaugurated.
Trump was such a polarising figure that it didn't matter if he committed high crimes and misdemeanors or not - Dems wanted him impeached regardless of the facts, Republicans wanted him acquitted regardless of them.2 -
Yes he was.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.2 -
Lasting 10 years in a genuine democracy is very impressive. Even if your party is dominant not being ousted in that time is not easy. Lasting as long as she has well beyond that is a huge achievementIanB2 said:Listening to Obama's memoirs on R4, he is talking about meeting Merkel and Brown early in his first term. Amazing how long Merkel has been in power, while we have enjoyed Brown, Cameron, May and the clown.
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I suspect you will regret being spoilt with this episode so do what you can to avoid any spoilers..kle4 said:
I actually dont mind in truth. On star wars I like it but dont get super invested by it. That's why i can admit to thinking the criticisms of the prequel trilogy are overblown.eek said:
Turn the internet off until you've watched it.kle4 said:
No spoilers no spoilers no spoilers no spoilers.FrancisUrquhart said:0 -
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:2 -
Back in the day, Reagan spoke of Watergate in the same dismissive way that DavidL does of Trump's impeachment.Theuniondivvie said:
If Trump had committed high crimes and misdemeanours, why should it matter what Dems feel about him? Pretty sure that their loathing of Trump wasn’t any greater than that of Dems towards Nixon.Philip_Thompson said:
The issue is that it seems abundantly clear that Trump has committed 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and that he was impeached because the Democrats hate him and that he was acquitted because Republicans loved/feared him.Nigelb said:
This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.
The process may be constitutionally mandated but it has been completed degraded and discredited by politicisation.
I think perhaps the difference is that Watergate taught the crooks to keep their mouths shut when caught.0 -
I think it was smart politics for the Democrats to impeach him over this too. It made it clear to everyone that Trump was trying to build a fake Hunter Biden nonsense attack for the General Election.rkrkrk said:
Technically, he was impeached.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
But what were the Democrats supposed to do?
You've got Trump and his officials *admitting* they withheld military aid to damage a political rival.
Ignoring that would have been more damaging to democracy.
Then lo and behold weeks before the General Election all Trumpists wanted to talk about was Hunter Biden. Funny that!
But the Hunter Biden nonsense gained no traction in the election. Why? I think because of the impeachment. It was old news, pre pandemic and seemed a stupid thing to be bringing back up and all played out already.
If this hadn't all gotten aired out during the impeachment then could the Hunter Biden nonsense have gained more traction during the election?0 -
Good morning, everyone.
F1: reports, but no confirmation yet, it seems, that Perez will get Albon's seat.1 -
Not much sign of that so far.kle4 said:
I think winning has become so important that the spirit of the rules no longer matters, and justifies changing the rules for self advantage in their eyes. With Trump, and the pretence of simply engaging in available challenge despite having no legitimate grounds to make so many, they are but one step away from those places where theres violence at an election as it really will be life and death if you lose. Hopefully they can revert to type now rather than ramp it up, but at state level I doubt it, and it becomes an escalating thing with the sides.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
For example:
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Before Trump was even inaugurated, everyone knew about Russian interference in the election and Trump's likely complicity, with Trump even addressing Russian hackers in a televised speech (whether or not he was joking). It's not as if it was a secret before the Mueller Report.Philip_Thompson said:
Boy who cried wolf syndrome.Theuniondivvie said:
If Trump had committed high crimes and misdemeanours, why should it matter what Dems feel about him? Pretty sure that their loathing of Trump wasn’t any greater than that of Dems towards Nixon.Philip_Thompson said:
The issue is that it seems abundantly clear that Trump has committed 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and that he was impeached because the Democrats hate him and that he was acquitted because Republicans loved/feared him.Nigelb said:
This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.
The process may be constitutionally mandated but it has been completed degraded and discredited by politicisation.
Yes there was a wolf in the end, but Dem voters were banging on about impeachment since November 2016 before Trump was even inaugurated.
Trump was such a polarising figure that it didn't matter if he committed high crimes and misdemeanors or not - Dems wanted him impeached regardless of the facts, Republicans wanted him acquitted regardless of them.0 -
The whole thing is a touch bizarre and perhaps demonstrates why the Tories need their new Purple Wall seats for a connection with all the country. Up here the Stamp Duty holiday offers little benefit to the average housemover in the Purple Wall.IanB2 said:
The stamp duty holiday has certainly prompted a lot of people to put long pondered plans into action. Anecdotally I know of one couple in their late 60s who have moved into smaller accommodation, and one London couple who have sold up and bought a farm in Wales, both made up their minds to go now because of the holiday. When stamp duty returns the market will be quiet, I guess - although the longer term economic damage from Covid may bring more distressed sales to the market. Edit/ And, remembering, i also know another couple who now spend much of the year in Spain, about to put their London house up for sale and buy a flat, also rushing because of the holidayMattW said:
I find that slightly strange, as the expectation is that values may tank a little come the end of the current schemes in March.IanB2 said:
The sale market has been similar, with properties snapped up unseen.eek said:
Elsewhere I'm reading the tales of someone trying to rent a 3 bedroom property on the IoW at the moment - everything is being taken before people even get to see where it is let alone inside the property.MattW said:
That Grimsby 4 bed says £1100 pcm on the brochure.IanB2 said:
A rapid visit to Rightmove and the top two for rent in Grimsby are a four-bed detached for £1250 pcm and a two-bed terrace for £485. In Slough the same money throws up flats - hunting about for a house, a four-bed detached is £2,295 and a two-bed terrace £1300. So hugely more. Looking at one bed flats, Slough's are around £900 pcm whereas in Grimsby it's about £425.Charles said:
I’d argue that £33k in Slough = £33k in Grimsby (although it may buy less).Pagan2 said:
Doesnt change the fact that living costs more in the south east where a one bedroom flat will cost you the best part of 1000 a month. 33k in say slough is a lot less than 33k in grimsbyHYUFD said:
Even in the South East the median salary is only £613 a week ie £31,876 a year.rcs1000 said:
These people are (a) living in the South East (where incomes are higher) and (b) at the peak of their earning power.HYUFD said:
The UK median annual salary is £31,461 so £33k is actually fractionally better than averagePagan2 said:
My experience is different probably because I come from an era when few still went to university. Most of my working class friends are therefore of my age and still on crap wages and just don't have the chance to expose themselves to the finer things in life due to money. Not saying they couldn't buy the ingredients and home make it but they aren't likely to sample it in a restaurant as if they eat out it will be wetherspoons, hungry horse, nando's etc because a 40£ a head meal just isn't cost effective for them. Plenty I know aren't any less intelligent than many here. They merely didn't get the chance to go to university or like me had no desire too and have later in life found that limits them in terms of earning power. I would estimate the average wage of those friends at about 33k and that doesnt go so far in the south eastMaxPB said:
I think the assumption that the working classes are this sea of lumpen types who sit around eating McDonalds and think Nandos is the height of culture bothers me. Most of my friends are from working class backgrounds as I went to a state school and a pretty ordinary university, it's not as bleak as that.CorrectHorseBattery said:
Each to their own, you keep doing you MaxMaxPB said:
Eh, I grew up in one of London's most violent estates (so much so that we got relocated and the council shut it down), and I have no need to ever order domino's or anything so awful. Life is what you make of it, 11 year old me on the estate could never have imagined going to the opera but it's one of the things I've missed this year.Pagan2 said:
Sounds like posh food and plebs like me dont get to eat that we order at domino'sCrabbie said:
Pizza Bianco with Gorgonzola, Parma ham, and walnuts.Pagan2 said:
Is there such a thing as a pizza without fruit don't they all have tomato sauce on them and tomato is a fruitMexicanpete said:
I have no dog in the fruit on pizza race.CorrectHorseBattery said:
He's a bit like Casino Royale sometimes, nearly always very sensible but occasionally go off the ledge.Mexicanpete said:
My children are both in their early twenties. Your analysis was not their experience in a Roman Catholic Comprehensive school.MaxPB said:
That was then, one of my younger cousins is completely infected with "intersectionalism" and all kinds of other bullshit about how she's a victim because she's female and Asian and that she might be transgender, but probably isn't.rcs1000 said:
Sure: but I'm the same age as Truss and went to a variety of comprehensive schools and all our lessons except one were about, you know, reading, writing, maths, geography, etc. The other one was "PSE" - or personal and social education - and was just one period a week.Casino_Royale said:The idea that because one or two people went to a comprehensive school and subsequently did ok for themselves means that they're all world-class educational establishments that honour every child is possibly one of the dumbest takes I've ever seen on this website.
PSE was a fairly random bunch of (frankly) shit. The local police would come in and give a talk, for example. And "sex education" ("what do you want to know, miss?") too. In my last school it taught by a bored and elderly teacher who seemed completely disinterested in teaching and let us all chat and generally ignore him.
Liz Truss is guilty of creating a strawman. And I speak as someone who is normally a fan of her.
Schooling is the one reason my wife and I are seriously considering moving back to Zurich even if it is extremely dull. We don't want to put any kids we have through this liberal wanky school system where activist charities encourage teachers to tell children they are 64 different genders. The whole Anglosphere seems to be infected with this kind of bullshit. I fear that this Tory government will make a valiant last stand here but as soon as Labour get in it's going to get a lot worse.
Have you been reading Guido and The Daily Mail again?
We need to bring them back with some common ground.
Grapes on pizza, yuck yuck yuck, am I right?
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/annualsurveyofhoursandearnings/2020
Only in London where average earnings are £736 a week does the median salary even top £35,000 at £38,272 a year.
https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwork/earningsandworkinghours/bulletins/annualsurveyofhoursandearnings/2019#:~:text=In April 2019, London topped,the UK (£585).
Still what do I know
Renting property in Slough is therefore about twice as expensive, and someone on the same salary is going to have a lot less money to spend left over.
Interesting that it is the only one listed. Under "unforeseen consequences", it tells you something what mandating a 6 month notice period for eviction does to market availability, and chances to rent for people needing houses.
The island's problem has always been employment. As soon as you don't need to work, or have a job where you can work remotely, it becomes a superb place to live. The number of people (who think they are) in the latter category has just exploded.
eg A trad 3 bed semi in say the Surbiton area may attract 20k+ of Stamp Duty on a price of 600k-650k; the equivalent in my neck of the woods will attract about £1000 or less on a price of 160k to 200k.
They need to get beyond the Southern Squint which undermines some of their policies.
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A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.0
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Plus he totally fluked 2016 and even that was with Putin's help. Joke figure. Means nothing. Stands for nothing. Just a warning of what can happen if a critical mass of voters get morally lax and intellectually lazy. I've made a big, life changing decision and it's only right and proper that I announce it here before I even tell my mum. I have cancelled Donald Trump and I'm moving on - apart from the occasional post like this one on the (I predict) rapidly diminishing number of threads where he's the topic. He's going to fade away now and what a relief it will be. Ok, other grisly figures will no doubt emerge to pitch for his hardcore fanbase, but this will not detract from the massive positive of not having to constantly see or hear or read about him. For over 4 years almost every single day has had this toxic bozo prominent in the news. "What did Trump say?" being the BBC template, followed by a regurgitation of whatever idiocy or hate-speech or lying bullshit he had chosen to emit that day. No longer, least not here in the UK. I often reach for the words of Martin Luther King on a Friday morning and I do so without hesitation here. Free at last, free at last.
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I've not watched The Mandalorian yet. Is it family friendly?
Thinking of watching it over the Christmas holidays with my children if it is. Watched the original trilogy with them in the summer, it didn't hold the four year olds attention but the six year old really liked Yoda and has seen pictures of 'baby Yoda' and says 'baby Yoda' is "so cute".0 -
Good. No need for coal energy in this country. It's polluting and the leading cause of climate change.Gallowgate said:A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.
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No deal is here. We may fudge a last second deal which gets ratified at some later point, but no deal is already in effect.Theuniondivvie said:I bet that verge is going to be covered in bottles of golden liquid which is definitely not Irn Bru. Don’t open those fast food boxes whatever you do..
https://twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1339864277767872512?s=21
The massive queues are as traffic ramps up to avoid tariffs. This week is demonstrating to the country what the industry already knew and has been highlighting - that customs checks and the current UK / EU traffic are simply incompatible.
As soon as we tip into 2021 the number of vehicles will drop significantly with the processing time per truck increasing significantly. The awkward problem being that we need the stuff that comes on trucks, but as soon as we try and ship it the border comes to a stop. If we don't trade the border delays may only be in single digit hours as opposed to the days it will be otherwise.0 -
There's different types of coal though isn't there?MaxPB said:
Good. No need for coal energy in this country. It's polluting and the leading cause of climate change.Gallowgate said:A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.
Coal for burning absolutely is antiquated.
Coal for steel is different and still needed though isn't it?
No idea which this one is but there's a future usage I believe for the right types of coal even in a net zero future.0 -
There’s no “technically” about it. He was impeached. Full stop. Impeachment is just the referring by the House to the Senate for trial.Philip_Thompson said:
Trump technically was impeached.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Trump should have been impeached on the evidence but the Senate is hyperpartisan these days. If Nixon were still with us, he'd have wondered about the injustice of it all.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
Nixon technically was not.
He wasn’t convicted.
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Any idea what this is about, or are they just fishing for gullibles?HYUFD said:
The current rule in England is that 6 months notice is required.
Is this different in Scotland and/or Wales and/or NI?
The speakers seem to be a bloke from the Tribune, a USA lawyer, and a Welsh individual.
The Eviction Resistance blog was last updated in 2016.2 -
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
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Yes. This is "high quality North East coal" (their marketing words) for use in making cement and steel, apparently.Philip_Thompson said:
There's different types of coal though isn't there?MaxPB said:
Good. No need for coal energy in this country. It's polluting and the leading cause of climate change.Gallowgate said:A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.
Coal for burning absolutely is antiquated.
Coal for steel is different and still needed though isn't it?
No idea which this one is but there's a future usage I believe for the right types of coal even in a net zero future.
The fireclay will be used for making bricks.
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As I understand it the coal is to be used to make steel for.....er.......windfarms.Philip_Thompson said:
There's different types of coal though isn't there?MaxPB said:
Good. No need for coal energy in this country. It's polluting and the leading cause of climate change.Gallowgate said:A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.
Coal for burning absolutely is antiquated.
Coal for steel is different and still needed though isn't it?
No idea which this one is but there's a future usage I believe for the right types of coal even in a net zero future.
Its almost as if Maoist 20-year plans have horrendous unforeseen downsides.1 -
Reagan got away with worse than Watergate, conspiring with Iran to delay the hostages' release, and the Iran-Contra affair.Nigelb said:
Back in the day, Reagan spoke of Watergate in the same dismissive way that DavidL does of Trump's impeachment.Theuniondivvie said:
If Trump had committed high crimes and misdemeanours, why should it matter what Dems feel about him? Pretty sure that their loathing of Trump wasn’t any greater than that of Dems towards Nixon.Philip_Thompson said:
The issue is that it seems abundantly clear that Trump has committed 'high crimes and misdemeanors' and that he was impeached because the Democrats hate him and that he was acquitted because Republicans loved/feared him.Nigelb said:
This conservative line that Trump's impeachment was an abuse of democracy is absurd.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
It's a constitutionally mandated process that was eminently justified.
The process may be constitutionally mandated but it has been completed degraded and discredited by politicisation.
I think perhaps the difference is that Watergate taught the crooks to keep their mouths shut when caught.0 -
Is that you in the photo upthread?HYUFD said:
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
In 2015 Cameron won graduates as did Romney in 2012, there has been a sizeable shift in both the Tory and GOP coalitions from the upper middle class to the white working class
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I should wait until he`s out of the White House.kinabalu said:Plus he totally fluked 2016 and even that was with Putin's help. Joke figure. Means nothing. Stands for nothing. Just a warning of what can happen if a critical mass of voters get morally lax and intellectually lazy. I've made a big, life changing decision and it's only right and proper that I announce it here before I even tell my mum. I have cancelled Donald Trump and I'm moving on - apart from the occasional post like this one on the (I predict) rapidly diminishing number of threads where he's the topic. He's going to fade away now and what a relief it will be. Ok, other grisly figures will no doubt emerge to pitch for his hardcore fanbase, but this will not detract from the massive positive of not having to constantly see or hear or read about him. For over 4 years almost every single day has had this toxic bozo prominent in the news. "What did Trump say?" being the BBC template, followed by a regurgitation of whatever idiocy or hate-speech or lying bullshit he had chosen to emit that day. No longer, least not here in the UK. I often reach for the words of Martin Luther King on a Friday morning and I do so without hesitation here. Free at last, free at last.
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I thought 'free at last' was the funniest line of a genuinely amusing post.Stocky said:
I should wait until he`s out of the White House.kinabalu said:Plus he totally fluked 2016 and even that was with Putin's help. Joke figure. Means nothing. Stands for nothing. Just a warning of what can happen if a critical mass of voters get morally lax and intellectually lazy. I've made a big, life changing decision and it's only right and proper that I announce it here before I even tell my mum. I have cancelled Donald Trump and I'm moving on - apart from the occasional post like this one on the (I predict) rapidly diminishing number of threads where he's the topic. He's going to fade away now and what a relief it will be. Ok, other grisly figures will no doubt emerge to pitch for his hardcore fanbase, but this will not detract from the massive positive of not having to constantly see or hear or read about him. For over 4 years almost every single day has had this toxic bozo prominent in the news. "What did Trump say?" being the BBC template, followed by a regurgitation of whatever idiocy or hate-speech or lying bullshit he had chosen to emit that day. No longer, least not here in the UK. I often reach for the words of Martin Luther King on a Friday morning and I do so without hesitation here. Free at last, free at last.
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Good morning good people of PB!0
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I wouldn't recommend it for six year olds - a bit to violentPhilip_Thompson said:I've not watched The Mandalorian yet. Is it family friendly?
Thinking of watching it over the Christmas holidays with my children if it is. Watched the original trilogy with them in the summer, it didn't hold the four year olds attention but the six year old really liked Yoda and has seen pictures of 'baby Yoda' and says 'baby Yoda' is "so cute".0 -
People with whom Liz Truss’s speech yesterday will have gone down well, no matter what the woke commentariat of Islington think of it.HYUFD said:
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
In 2015 Cameron won graduates as did Romney in 2012, there has been a sizeable shift in both the Tory and GOP coalitions from the upper middle class to the white working class2 -
BETTING TIP
You can lay Brian Rose to win the 2021 London Mayoral Election at 7, or even lower if you are lucky (I just got a bunch matched at 6.4). It's an insane price, akin to the YangGang fervour last year but perhaps even weirder. Who are his enthusiastic backers? Unlike Yang he isn't even getting an impressive amount of media coverage for an outsider or anything like that.
The market is thin, but if you leave money up it is getting matched at around 7, many thousands have been matched so far.
Or you could just take the 1.25 or so available on Khan to win. Almost as safe and another 10% profit or so. I've got a bit on that too, but it's definitely another step away from 'Banker' compared to laying Rose.5 -
Joe Saward said that yesterday - it's a 1 year deal with Albon retained as test driver ready for 2022.Morris_Dancer said:Good morning, everyone.
F1: reports, but no confirmation yet, it seems, that Perez will get Albon's seat.0 -
2020HYUFD said:
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
In 2015 Cameron won graduates as did Romney in 2012, there has been a sizeable shift in both the Tory and GOP coalitions from the upper middle class to the white working class
2012
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That's what technically means. He was impeached.alex_ said:
There’s no “technically” about it. He was impeached. Full stop. Impeachment is just the referring by the House to the Senate for trial.Philip_Thompson said:
Trump technically was impeached.DecrepiterJohnL said:
Trump should have been impeached on the evidence but the Senate is hyperpartisan these days. If Nixon were still with us, he'd have wondered about the injustice of it all.DavidL said:In fairness he wasn't impeached. That was an absurd effort by the Democrats that did them and US democracy no good whatsoever.
Both of the major parties really need to start thinking of US democracy as something to be nurtured rather than manipulated and abused. If they don't the system is going to become ever more unstable.
Nixon technically was not.
He wasn’t convicted.
But people (mistakenly) use the term to mean removed from office. That didn't happen. It has never happened via the impeachment process.0 -
I've seen Youtube adverts for Rose (including this morning) and I imagine he will be using other social media platforms as well.Quincel said:BETTING TIP
You can lay Brian Rose to win the 2021 London Mayoral Election at 7, or even lower if you are lucky (I just got a bunch matched at 6.4). It's an insane price, akin to the YangGang fervour last year but perhaps even weirder. Who are his enthusiastic backers? Unlike Yang he isn't even getting an impressive amount of media coverage for an outsider or anything like that.
The market is thin, but if you leave money up it is getting matched at around 7, many thousands have been matched so far.
Or you could just take the 1.25 or so available on Khan to win. Almost as safe and another 10% profit or so. I've got a bit on that too, but it's definitely another step away from 'Banker' compared to laying Rose.0 -
Thanks.eek said:
I wouldn't recommend it for six year olds - a bit to violentPhilip_Thompson said:I've not watched The Mandalorian yet. Is it family friendly?
Thinking of watching it over the Christmas holidays with my children if it is. Watched the original trilogy with them in the summer, it didn't hold the four year olds attention but the six year old really liked Yoda and has seen pictures of 'baby Yoda' and says 'baby Yoda' is "so cute".
I didn't feel the originally trilogy was too violent for them but felt it best to check on this.0 -
It’s Star Wars content. So /lots/ of on-screen violence & death, (shooting, occasional fist fights etc etc) but absolutely no blood, guts or suffering. The body count is off the scale, but the impact of that violence is negligible. In this sense it’s entirely family friendly - there’s nothing to provoke outrage or disgust.Philip_Thompson said:I've not watched The Mandalorian yet. Is it family friendly?
Thinking of watching it over the Christmas holidays with my children if it is. Watched the original trilogy with them in the summer, it didn't hold the four year olds attention but the six year old really liked Yoda and has seen pictures of 'baby Yoda' and says 'baby Yoda' is "so cute".
But I think there’s a conversation to be had about the normalisation of the direct application of violence as a solution to problems & the consequences that usually come along with that in the real world, but are completely missing from programs like the Mandalorian.1 -
Yes, anecdote suggests he's spending quite heavily on that. No indication he has any voters supporting him though.DecrepiterJohnL said:
I've seen Youtube adverts for Rose (including this morning) and I imagine he will be using other social media platforms as well.Quincel said:BETTING TIP
You can lay Brian Rose to win the 2021 London Mayoral Election at 7, or even lower if you are lucky (I just got a bunch matched at 6.4). It's an insane price, akin to the YangGang fervour last year but perhaps even weirder. Who are his enthusiastic backers? Unlike Yang he isn't even getting an impressive amount of media coverage for an outsider or anything like that.
The market is thin, but if you leave money up it is getting matched at around 7, many thousands have been matched so far.
Or you could just take the 1.25 or so available on Khan to win. Almost as safe and another 10% profit or so. I've got a bit on that too, but it's definitely another step away from 'Banker' compared to laying Rose.
As the old joke goes, he's within the margin of error in the latest poll. Of Khan? Of Bailey? No, of having any support at all.0 -
Anyone sensible and ambitious who can see what awaits Bozo in 2021 would be setting themselves up as an alternative right now. It will be extremely ugly.Sandpit said:
People with whom Liz Truss’s speech yesterday will have gone down well, no matter what the woke commentariat of Islington think of it.HYUFD said:
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
In 2015 Cameron won graduates as did Romney in 2012, there has been a sizeable shift in both the Tory and GOP coalitions from the upper middle class to the white working class
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They’re expecting it to be officially announced today, but it’s apparently been paddock gossip since Bahrain. Uncle Joe is always worth following, one of few old-school F1 hacks left following the circus. He knows absolutely everyone!eek said:
Joe Saward said that yesterday - it's a 1 year deal with Albon retained as test driver ready for 2022.Morris_Dancer said:Good morning, everyone.
F1: reports, but no confirmation yet, it seems, that Perez will get Albon's seat.0 -
Frankly thats probably what Albon needs. He has shown plenty of brilliance this season - some fantastic round the outside overtakes. But he hasn't been consistent - so a season of testing hopefully will make him a better driver.eek said:
Joe Saward said that yesterday - it's a 1 year deal with Albon retained as test driver ready for 2022.Morris_Dancer said:Good morning, everyone.
F1: reports, but no confirmation yet, it seems, that Perez will get Albon's seat.1 -
I wish she was staying on.kle4 said:
Lasting 10 years in a genuine democracy is very impressive. Even if your party is dominant not being ousted in that time is not easy. Lasting as long as she has well beyond that is a huge achievementIanB2 said:Listening to Obama's memoirs on R4, he is talking about meeting Merkel and Brown early in his first term. Amazing how long Merkel has been in power, while we have enjoyed Brown, Cameron, May and the clown.
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Mr. eek, I remember hearing somewhere that Perez had something lined up for 2022.0
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And crunching the 2012 Exit poll numbers Trump actually did a point worse than romeny with <100k voters, within the level of rounding errors. So lets call it exactly the same to be generous to him.Alistair said:
2020HYUFD said:
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
In 2015 Cameron won graduates as did Romney in 2012, there has been a sizeable shift in both the Tory and GOP coalitions from the upper middle class to the white working class
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What's wrong with that in your eyes? 🤔contrarian said:
As I understand it the coal is to be used to make steel for.....er.......windfarms.Philip_Thompson said:
There's different types of coal though isn't there?MaxPB said:
Good. No need for coal energy in this country. It's polluting and the leading cause of climate change.Gallowgate said:A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.
Coal for burning absolutely is antiquated.
Coal for steel is different and still needed though isn't it?
No idea which this one is but there's a future usage I believe for the right types of coal even in a net zero future.
Its almost as if Maoist 20-year plans have horrendous unforeseen downsides.
Producing steel for long term energy production is a far superior usage of coal than merely burning it for electricity.1 -
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13511571/angela-merkel-backlash-coronavirus-vaccine-germany/?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_campaign=sunpoliticstwitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1608253326
Revenge for all those towels on the sunbeds....??0 -
It is true, whenever I am down the pub I'm always hearing fellow drinkers complaining about the influence of Foucault on the education system in the 1980s. People talk of nothing else.Sandpit said:
People with whom Liz Truss’s speech yesterday will have gone down well, no matter what the woke commentariat of Islington think of it.HYUFD said:
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
In 2015 Cameron won graduates as did Romney in 2012, there has been a sizeable shift in both the Tory and GOP coalitions from the upper middle class to the white working class1 -
If this planning is refused, the same coal will be burnt - it will just be mined elsewhere, probably with worse conditions for the workers. Decent grade coking coal is essential for steel production.MaxPB said:
Good. No need for coal energy in this country. It's polluting and the leading cause of climate change.Gallowgate said:A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.
The environmental consequences of refusing planning will just be to shift the mining (and possibly the consumption) to places with lower environmental standards.
As a side note, the heritage railway movement is very keen for this one to go ahead - we use a tiny annual tonnage of coal, but finding high quality lump coal suitable for railway engines is getting increasingly difficult, and these sort of UK operations are often sympathetic to running a small batch at an appropriate lump size for us to use.1 -
In 2012 Romney won 52% of voters earning $200 000 - $249 999 and Romney won 55% of voters earning over $250 000.Alistair said:
2020HYUFD said:
Much as with Trump, Boris' core vote comes from white voters without a degree.Sandpit said:
Wow! That’s some change in a few short years.HYUFD said:
In 2015 Cameron won graduates as did Romney in 2012, there has been a sizeable shift in both the Tory and GOP coalitions from the upper middle class to the white working class
2012
In 2020 Trump could only tie Biden with voters earning over $200 000 at 44% each.
In 2012 Romney won 51% of graduates but only 48% of high school only graduates and just 35% of non high school graduates.
In 2020 Trump won just 47% of graduates but won 54% of those with only a high school or less education and Trump won only 48% of white college graduates but Trump won 67% of whites with no college degree.
So my point was absolutely right, the GOP coalition has shifted to white voters without a college degree.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_United_States_presidential_election
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election1 -
HYUFD said:
So my point was absolutely right.
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So we will adapt. 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:
No deal is here. We may fudge a last second deal which gets ratified at some later point, but no deal is already in effect.Theuniondivvie said:I bet that verge is going to be covered in bottles of golden liquid which is definitely not Irn Bru. Don’t open those fast food boxes whatever you do..
https://twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1339864277767872512?s=21
The massive queues are as traffic ramps up to avoid tariffs. This week is demonstrating to the country what the industry already knew and has been highlighting - that customs checks and the current UK / EU traffic are simply incompatible.
As soon as we tip into 2021 the number of vehicles will drop significantly with the processing time per truck increasing significantly. The awkward problem being that we need the stuff that comes on trucks, but as soon as we try and ship it the border comes to a stop. If we don't trade the border delays may only be in single digit hours as opposed to the days it will be otherwise.
Life finds a way to adapt.
I wonder if regional inequality might be addressed if trade no longer occurs narrowly through a South East tunnel and is diversified across ports like Liverpool, Portsmouth etc too.0 -
Had Australian steak for lunch in the end, and very nice it was too.
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Regional inequality reduced by everyone being poorer, just the South East being proportionally more poorer?Philip_Thompson said:
So we will adapt. 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:
No deal is here. We may fudge a last second deal which gets ratified at some later point, but no deal is already in effect.Theuniondivvie said:I bet that verge is going to be covered in bottles of golden liquid which is definitely not Irn Bru. Don’t open those fast food boxes whatever you do..
https://twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1339864277767872512?s=21
The massive queues are as traffic ramps up to avoid tariffs. This week is demonstrating to the country what the industry already knew and has been highlighting - that customs checks and the current UK / EU traffic are simply incompatible.
As soon as we tip into 2021 the number of vehicles will drop significantly with the processing time per truck increasing significantly. The awkward problem being that we need the stuff that comes on trucks, but as soon as we try and ship it the border comes to a stop. If we don't trade the border delays may only be in single digit hours as opposed to the days it will be otherwise.
Life finds a way to adapt.
I wonder if regional inequality might be addressed if trade no longer occurs narrowly through a South East tunnel and is diversified across ports like Liverpool, Portsmouth etc too.
I thought you guys opposed such things. Socialism and all that.0 -
I just replied "loser" on his twitter feed. I hope to be blocked.kinabalu said:Plus he totally fluked 2016 and even that was with Putin's help. Joke figure. Means nothing. Stands for nothing. Just a warning of what can happen if a critical mass of voters get morally lax and intellectually lazy. I've made a big, life changing decision and it's only right and proper that I announce it here before I even tell my mum. I have cancelled Donald Trump and I'm moving on - apart from the occasional post like this one on the (I predict) rapidly diminishing number of threads where he's the topic. He's going to fade away now and what a relief it will be. Ok, other grisly figures will no doubt emerge to pitch for his hardcore fanbase, but this will not detract from the massive positive of not having to constantly see or hear or read about him. For over 4 years almost every single day has had this toxic bozo prominent in the news. "What did Trump say?" being the BBC template, followed by a regurgitation of whatever idiocy or hate-speech or lying bullshit he had chosen to emit that day. No longer, least not here in the UK. I often reach for the words of Martin Luther King on a Friday morning and I do so without hesitation here. Free at last, free at last.
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If we lower the Common External Tariff so that we aren't protecting trade with little Europe over the global trade then we can improve our livelihoods not lower them.Gallowgate said:
Regional inequality reduced by everyone being poorer, just the South East being proportionally more poorer?Philip_Thompson said:
So we will adapt. 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:
No deal is here. We may fudge a last second deal which gets ratified at some later point, but no deal is already in effect.Theuniondivvie said:I bet that verge is going to be covered in bottles of golden liquid which is definitely not Irn Bru. Don’t open those fast food boxes whatever you do..
https://twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1339864277767872512?s=21
The massive queues are as traffic ramps up to avoid tariffs. This week is demonstrating to the country what the industry already knew and has been highlighting - that customs checks and the current UK / EU traffic are simply incompatible.
As soon as we tip into 2021 the number of vehicles will drop significantly with the processing time per truck increasing significantly. The awkward problem being that we need the stuff that comes on trucks, but as soon as we try and ship it the border comes to a stop. If we don't trade the border delays may only be in single digit hours as opposed to the days it will be otherwise.
Life finds a way to adapt.
I wonder if regional inequality might be addressed if trade no longer occurs narrowly through a South East tunnel and is diversified across ports like Liverpool, Portsmouth etc too.
I thought you guys opposed such things. Socialism and all that.1 -
I was walking through Blyth Asda yesterday and the most beautiful thing happened. Everyone in the shop stopped what they were doing and started clapping for Liz Truss. It was a magical moment.Dura_Ace said:
They have literally never heard of her.Sandpit said:
People with whom Liz Truss’s speech yesterday will have gone down well, no matter what the woke commentariat of Islington think of it.3 -
Rumours are it's with Williams. So Perez to Williams in 2022, Russell to Merc, Bottas out. Gives a new seat for Red Bull for the new Japanse driver if he's good enough, or Albon to come back if he's heads on right (or gasly to then step up).Morris_Dancer said:Mr. eek, I remember hearing somewhere that Perez had something lined up for 2022.
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Of course we can. Doesn't mean we will.Philip_Thompson said:
If we lower the Common External Tariff so that we aren't protecting trade with little Europe over the global trade then we can improve our livelihoods not lower them.Gallowgate said:
Regional inequality reduced by everyone being poorer, just the South East being proportionally more poorer?Philip_Thompson said:
So we will adapt. 🤷🏻♂️RochdalePioneers said:
No deal is here. We may fudge a last second deal which gets ratified at some later point, but no deal is already in effect.Theuniondivvie said:I bet that verge is going to be covered in bottles of golden liquid which is definitely not Irn Bru. Don’t open those fast food boxes whatever you do..
https://twitter.com/jimmfelton/status/1339864277767872512?s=21
The massive queues are as traffic ramps up to avoid tariffs. This week is demonstrating to the country what the industry already knew and has been highlighting - that customs checks and the current UK / EU traffic are simply incompatible.
As soon as we tip into 2021 the number of vehicles will drop significantly with the processing time per truck increasing significantly. The awkward problem being that we need the stuff that comes on trucks, but as soon as we try and ship it the border comes to a stop. If we don't trade the border delays may only be in single digit hours as opposed to the days it will be otherwise.
Life finds a way to adapt.
I wonder if regional inequality might be addressed if trade no longer occurs narrowly through a South East tunnel and is diversified across ports like Liverpool, Portsmouth etc too.
I thought you guys opposed such things. Socialism and all that.0 -
Well he has a million quid from his last grift to play with.Quincel said:
Yes, anecdote suggests he's spending quite heavily on that. No indication he has any voters supporting him though.DecrepiterJohnL said:
I've seen Youtube adverts for Rose (including this morning) and I imagine he will be using other social media platforms as well.Quincel said:BETTING TIP
You can lay Brian Rose to win the 2021 London Mayoral Election at 7, or even lower if you are lucky (I just got a bunch matched at 6.4). It's an insane price, akin to the YangGang fervour last year but perhaps even weirder. Who are his enthusiastic backers? Unlike Yang he isn't even getting an impressive amount of media coverage for an outsider or anything like that.
The market is thin, but if you leave money up it is getting matched at around 7, many thousands have been matched so far.
Or you could just take the 1.25 or so available on Khan to win. Almost as safe and another 10% profit or so. I've got a bit on that too, but it's definitely another step away from 'Banker' compared to laying Rose.
As the old joke goes, he's within the margin of error in the latest poll. Of Khan? Of Bailey? No, of having any support at all.0 -
What's wrong with it is it that Zero 2050 is a Great Leap Forward Maoist target. Burning coal for steel is just one example of how when you have these, everything, and in particular inconvenient truth, gets completely and utterly ignored in pursuit of the goal. Destroying forests to grow biofuels is another example of thisPhilip_Thompson said:
What's wrong with that in your eyes? 🤔contrarian said:
As I understand it the coal is to be used to make steel for.....er.......windfarms.Philip_Thompson said:
There's different types of coal though isn't there?MaxPB said:
Good. No need for coal energy in this country. It's polluting and the leading cause of climate change.Gallowgate said:A planning application for a 250 acre opencast mine for the extraction of 800,000 tons of coal and 400,000 tons of fireclay is probably going to be rejected by Newcastle City Council today. A pity.
Coal for burning absolutely is antiquated.
Coal for steel is different and still needed though isn't it?
No idea which this one is but there's a future usage I believe for the right types of coal even in a net zero future.
Its almost as if Maoist 20-year plans have horrendous unforeseen downsides.
Producing steel for long term energy production is a far superior usage of coal than merely burning it for electricity.
Frank Dikotter's 'Mao's Great Famine' and Jung Chang's 'Mao, the Unknown Story' are instructive in this respect. Conservative politicians should know these books by rote.1
