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While there’s been a lot of betting activity on Biden’s VP pick (£1.2m so far matched on Betfair) there’s been much less activity on Mike Pence being on the Republican ticket (just £12k) once again in November. He’s currently at 1.11/1.16 on Betfair which might be value for the lay.
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I doubt he will be removed, Pence brings evangelicals and they turnout and without them turning out for him in the South and Midwest Trump is likely doomed1
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Even just counting £9bn (and rapidly rising) based upon dubiously knocking off money that was spent in this country despite it not being something we'd voted to spend as a priority of ours still dwarves by an order of £2bn the alleged £7bn cost of Brexit - if you can believe that figure.Benpointer said:
As you well know, our net contribution was about £9bn.Philip_Thompson said:
Is that all?Scott_xP said:
Considering our EU membership fees were more than double that, what a bargain leaving is turning out to be!
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/
Is it worth paying a £9bn fee to avoid £7bn in fees?0 -
With a PM who is also the World King, should we expect anything less?Scott_xP said:0 -
Hope PBers saw my tip from uninformed source far from Trumsky inner circle, that Bobble-head will be dumped over the side in favor of KANYE WEST.
"Mike Pence is a TERRIBLE person, a real disappointment - couldn't even get ME to wear a mask."
Tell yer bookie that SeaShanty did NOT send yez!1 -
I've assumed its in the same style of repeating trite and populist three word slogans during election season. You understand it may alienate the overly political but for the majority they may only hear that Boris's next plan is to be 'universe defying' once or twice and it sticks.Scott_xP said:0 -
Oddly enough I no longer think Pence brings much to Trump electorally (he represents a portion of the base, but Trump is now beloved by the base) but I don't think there's a chance he'll ditch him. A couple of reasons:
1. Trump isn't *that* unpredictable, imho. He often does shocking things, but he tends to foreshadow them by publicly toying with the idea (or 'joking' about doing it). There's been no hint from Trump that he is unhappy with Pence.
2. I think Trump's pride would hold him back, in the same way it seems to be holding back other changes in strategy from his 2016 playbook. Making changes feels like an admission of failure or weakness which he can't stomach.0 -
It might be to Pence"s long term benefit to uncouple himself from Trump.HYUFD said:I doubt he will be removed, Pence brings evangelicals and they turnout and without them turning out for him in the South and Midwest Trump is likely doomed
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Reckon Trumpsky does NOT need Pence re: evangelicals, they will (mostly) stick with him, for same reason they would NOT want to question King David's personnel decisions too closely - after all, God DOES move in mysterious ways!HYUFD said:I doubt he will be removed, Pence brings evangelicals and they turnout and without them turning out for him in the South and Midwest Trump is likely doomed
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Come on, you're brighter than this Philip. The £7bn is not the cost of Brexit, it's just one cost. It'll be dwarfed by cost of lost trade with the EU.Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Even just counting £9bn (and rapidly rising) based upon dubiously knocking off money that was spent in this country despite it not being something we'd voted to spend as a priority of ours still dwarves by an order of £2bn the alleged £7bn cost of Brexit - if you can believe that figure.Benpointer said:
As you well know, our net contribution was about £9bn.Philip_Thompson said:
Is that all?Scott_xP said:
Considering our EU membership fees were more than double that, what a bargain leaving is turning out to be!
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/
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Yes & YesQuincel said:Oddly enough I no longer think Pence brings much to Trump electorally (he represents a portion of the base, but Trump is now beloved by the base) but I don't think there's a chance he'll ditch him. A couple of reasons:
1. Trump isn't *that* unpredictable, imho. He often does shocking things, but he tends to foreshadow them by publicly toying with the idea (or 'joking' about doing it). There's been no hint from Trump that he is unhappy with Pence.
2. I think Trump's pride would hold him back, in the same way it seems to be holding back other changes in strategy from his 2016 playbook. Making changes feels like an admission of failure or weakness which he can't stomach.0 -
It's 2020, I wouldn't even be surprised by this now.SeaShantyIrish2 said:Hope PBers saw my tip from uninformed source far from Trumsky inner circle, that Bobble-head will be dumped over the side in favor of KANYE WEST.
"Mike Pence is a TERRIBLE person, a real disappointment - couldn't even get ME to wear a mask."
Tell yer bookie that SeaShanty did NOT send yez!0 -
But what price sovereignty? LolBenpointer said:
Come on, you're brighter than this Philip. The £7bn is not the cost of Brexit, it's just one cost. It'll be dwarfed by cost of lost trade with the EU.Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Even just counting £9bn (and rapidly rising) based upon dubiously knocking off money that was spent in this country despite it not being something we'd voted to spend as a priority of ours still dwarves by an order of £2bn the alleged £7bn cost of Brexit - if you can believe that figure.Benpointer said:
As you well know, our net contribution was about £9bn.Philip_Thompson said:
Is that all?Scott_xP said:
Considering our EU membership fees were more than double that, what a bargain leaving is turning out to be!
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/
Is it worth paying a £9bn fee to avoid £7bn in fees?0 -
More effective than the Korean border?Scott_xP said:
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Putting Kanye on the ticket is just an advert for his new resort in Paignton.0
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The problem with dumping Pence is that he's the link to the religious right. If you put Kanye in his place, do you think that would go down well in rural Alabama?0
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Is anyone an expert on Covid ?Scott_xP said:1 -
I am sure it will be a very effective border, doing what borders do best - acting as a barrier to trade and prosperity. This really is a government of imbeciles.Scott_xP said:3 -
Usual misleading sensationalist Guardian headline. Bit unusual for it to be explicitly contradicted by the article itself though.Scott_xP said:
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Great.williamglenn said:
Inter alia that implies 1-2 million American dead and maybe 10-20m worldwide
Proper Spanish flu stuff0 -
New rules - from 24 July 2020 you will have to wear a mask when posting on pb.com5
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Yes I have laid Pence for running mate. I think there is more chance of Trump dumping him than than the odds imply. I think there's about a 30% chance of it happening.0
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Will it have any planes on this that can actually take off and land on it? A Spitfire Squadron perhaps>?Scott_xP said:0 -
If Pence wasn't the incumbent, he might well choose someone else.
But Pence is the incumbent, and dumping him will needlessly infuriate a large amount of the GOP base.0 -
Ah, so Eadric (circa February) became Guardian Science Editor.Scott_xP said:
Worrying prediction, nonetheless.0 -
If we charge them 5p a bag for all the plastic we've dumped on them it will break China.squareroot2 said:
Will it have any planes on this that can actually take off and land on it? A Spitfire Squadron perhaps>?Scott_xP said:
Oh, I see, not that kind of carrier.0 -
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Turns out old Eadric wasn't so wrong - in anythingMexicanpete said:
Ah, so Eadric (circa February) became Guardian Science Editor.Scott_xP said:
Worrying prediction, nonetheless.
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Or, like, a carrier group to defend it against airborne threats and fleet auxiliaries to supply it. I'm glad no deal brexit is going so well, they've clearly found a bunch of spare cash...squareroot2 said:
Will it have any planes on this that can actually take off and land on it? A Spitfire Squadron perhaps>?Scott_xP said:0 -
So instead of 5pm government briefings or statements in Parliament we get to learn about the new face coverings in shops rule from the front pages of the Telegraph and Times.0
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https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/1282789497701314564squareroot2 said:Will it have any planes on this that can actually take off and land on it? A Spitfire Squadron perhaps>?
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Even if deaths, even accounting for lagging, are not rising as badly as number of cases (that's an if, I don't know if that is so or not), I really don't understand the point of easing limits while things are still rising so precipitously. It's not only in the US it has happened. I mean, arguing over whether it is happening too soon or too fast is one thing, there will be valid arguments, but if cases are rising so much?Scott_xP said:0 -
What an utter catastrophe with the face marks. This Government is an absolute joke.1
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Oh God make it stop ! The UK is beginning to look like Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard .williamglenn said:3 -
We were a successful trading nation before we joined the EU and will be after we have leftBenpointer said:
Come on, you're brighter than this Philip. The £7bn is not the cost of Brexit, it's just one cost. It'll be dwarfed by cost of lost trade with the EU.Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Even just counting £9bn (and rapidly rising) based upon dubiously knocking off money that was spent in this country despite it not being something we'd voted to spend as a priority of ours still dwarves by an order of £2bn the alleged £7bn cost of Brexit - if you can believe that figure.Benpointer said:
As you well know, our net contribution was about £9bn.Philip_Thompson said:
Is that all?Scott_xP said:
Considering our EU membership fees were more than double that, what a bargain leaving is turning out to be!
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/
Is it worth paying a £9bn fee to avoid £7bn in fees?
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It may seem an obvious point, but have you considered that the “modelling” for this “reasonable worst case scenario” is probably heavily influenced by drawing heavily on available historic pandemic comparisons? So a scenario largely modelled on Spanish flu is coming up with a worst case scenario if it... emulating Spanish flu outcomes! Incredible coincidence!LadyG said:
Great.williamglenn said:
Inter alia that implies 1-2 million American dead and maybe 10-20m worldwide
Proper Spanish flu stuff0 -
The Californian university system is about to collapse, financially
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It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
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Forgotten but not gone.LadyG said:
Turns out old Eadric wasn't so wrong - in anythingMexicanpete said:
Ah, so Eadric (circa February) became Guardian Science Editor.Scott_xP said:
Worrying prediction, nonetheless.
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Never mind face coverings, this is government arse covering.Scott_xP said:2 -
Especially in Penarth. The local shop has unsold champagne sitting around.LadyG said:
Turns out old Eadric wasn't so wrong - in anythingMexicanpete said:
Ah, so Eadric (circa February) became Guardian Science Editor.Scott_xP said:
Worrying prediction, nonetheless.
He is much missed1 -
WHY would ANYONE be infuriated at dumping of Pence, outside of his own family circle?Sandpit said:If Pence wasn't the incumbent, he might well choose someone else.
But Pence is the incumbent, and dumping him will needlessly infuriate a large amount of the GOP base.
I mean, the guy is VICE PRESIDENT. And in this country, that and $3 will buy you an over-priced cup of coffee.
Nixon could have dumped Agnew in 1972 & still won. Same with every other president re-elected since.
AND Carter could have dumped Mondale in 1980, or Bush dumped Quayle in 1992, and still lost.
VP is simple way LESS important than some pundits & punters think.
In the words of FDR's first VP, John Nance Garner: "Ain't worth a pitcher of warm piss."0 -
I can see a ban looming for @Casino_RoyaleAve_it said:New rules - from 24 July 2020 you will have to wear a mask when posting on pb.com
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But it will never confound the Brexiteers, for whom objective reality is Fake News...Big_G_NorthWales said:It will be different and huge changes are on the way that may well confound all the naysayers over the years to come
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BBC news says the government has confirmed facemasks will be made compulsory in shops with £100 fines for non compliance0
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They should have made masks compulsory from the day we locked down. They've done it too late (although they're right to make it compulsory now - and I welcome it despite all the flip flopping) and they will pay the consequences for being so utterly negligent.
Every passing day, this Government proves it is utterly incapable of actually governing. It is Government by opinion poll. It follows opinion, it does not make it.
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Er, Yes, I have considered that.alex_ said:
It may seem an obvious point, but have you considered that the “modelling” for this “reasonable worst case scenario” is probably heavily influenced by drawing heavily on available historic pandemic comparisons? So a scenario largely modelled on Spanish flu is coming up with a worst case scenario if it... emulating Spanish flu outcomes! Incredible coincidence!LadyG said:
Great.williamglenn said:
Inter alia that implies 1-2 million American dead and maybe 10-20m worldwide
Proper Spanish flu stuff
Covid-19 has the potential to be easily as bad as Spanish flu. It is more insidious, dangerous and unpredictable. On the upside, medicine is far advanced from 1919, and fatalities should be more limited (unless health systems are overwhelmed)
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I can imagine a minister saying, "Come January 1st, we'll be ready for our close up!"nico67 said:
Oh God make it stop ! The UK is beginning to look like Norma Desmond in Sunset Boulevard .williamglenn said:0 -
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No, "fucking clueless" was how they were a week or two ago. Now they have surpassed themselves and are now "world class fucking clueless".RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.
Maybe they think it has been made an olympic sport?
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They are still doing online learningLadyG said:The Californian university system is about to collapse, financially
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I wonder if the Govt at any point considered strongly recommending face masks in shops on a non statutory basis? And backed up by strong messaging about it being “to protect others not yourself” You know, just to see if the public might consider following clear guidance when the reasoning was properly explained?
Anyways, another 11 days for them to change their minds yet. I wonder if they’ll include all the exemptions allowed with public transport?
But the question is - will the policeperson have to be wearing a mask when giving you your fine?0 -
If Starmer had shown leadership and said 'you have to wear a mask;' then LAB would be nailed on for GE 2024.
But as ever he will follow on this - and maybe write a letter on mask rules.
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Surely there will be some exemptions, for example those already wearing rose-tinted glasses?Ave_it said:New rules - from 24 July 2020 you will have to wear a mask when posting on pb.com
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Presumably what happened was they got the survey data showing that enforcing mask-wearing is popular with the public.Scott_xP said:
Mrs Thatcher was triumphant because she instinctively wanted what the Daily Mail wanted, and the Daily Mail is triumphant because they instinctively want what their readers want.
The current Downing Street team don't have a clue, which is why they're so slow to respond to anything. They have to wait for the polling data.1 -
Presumably you mean the Scottish government? Or is it the welsh? Or only conservative governments?CorrectHorseBattery said:What an utter catastrophe with the face marks. This Government is an absolute joke.
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Good job Starmer has shown leadership on masksCorrectHorseBattery said:They should have made masks compulsory from the day we locked down. They've done it too late (although they're right to make it compulsory now - and I welcome it despite all the flip flopping) and they will pay the consequences for being so utterly negligent.
Every passing day, this Government proves it is utterly incapable of actually governing. It is Government by opinion poll. It follows opinion, it does not make it.
What an utter farce. 0 -
Gives people reasonable notice to buy one.RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.3 -
Will this be the carrier with planes, or the one without?Scott_xP said:1 -
The LA Times story is about the LA public K-12 school system NOT the California state higher education system.HYUFD said:
They are still doing online learningLadyG said:The Californian university system is about to collapse, financially
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1282736707247304705?s=20
Of course ALL public education from preschool to senior advanced learning (drool-school?) is under SEVERELY fiscal pressure.0 -
No he should have lead by example and put one on weeks ago. A real failure that he has not.Ave_it said:
Good job Starmer has shown leadership on masksCorrectHorseBattery said:They should have made masks compulsory from the day we locked down. They've done it too late (although they're right to make it compulsory now - and I welcome it despite all the flip flopping) and they will pay the consequences for being so utterly negligent.
Every passing day, this Government proves it is utterly incapable of actually governing. It is Government by opinion poll. It follows opinion, it does not make it.
What an utter farce.0 -
Face masks, I dunno, in my opinion the precautionary principle probably applies here. And I would guess the Asians are probably onto something.
I would like a convincing explanation from HMG of what has changed since March though. Is being treated like a grown adult too much to ask? Oh wait, I forgot this is from the people that brought us £350m for the NHS...0 -
When is the Speaker going to get shirty about these announcements via media that are not made in Commons first?HYUFD said:BBC news says the government has confirmed facemasks will be made compulsory in shops with £100 fines for non compliance
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What if you are eating a Parmo at the time?RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.0 -
Because if you're going to change the law at penalty of fines you need time to allow people to both get the information so that they know the law and give them time if need be to order masks online and get them delivered.RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.1 -
Are both supposed to be at sea at the same time? I thought they operated on rotation?Scott_xP said:0 -
This is one of the most striking traits of this government - the puerile boasting.Scott_xP said:
They clearly feel we lap it up and the Johnson Cummings electoral record implies they are right.0 -
They have given the ERG 11 days to work out how to put on a mask...RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.0 -
That would work to some extent if they actually did wait, rather than saying one or multiple things and then contradicting themselves a couple of days later.Stuartinromford said:
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The current Downing Street team don't have a clue, which is why they're so slow to respond to anything. They have to wait for the polling data.
In truth though, I don't think it's about waiting for polling. I think it's just straightforward incompetence and lack of leadership.4 -
The initial capability will be 2 squadrons of 12 aircraft, IIRC.Scott_xP said:
https://twitter.com/LOS_Fisher/status/1282789497701314564squareroot2 said:Will it have any planes on this that can actually take off and land on it? A Spitfire Squadron perhaps>?
The US Marine Corps want to practically camp on the UK carriers - they want to bring at least a squadron of their own.0 -
It's almost as if Gove isn't in the loop.Scott_xP said:0 -
The “university experience” is going to be a barrel of laughs for the next couple of years.HYUFD said:
They are still doing online learningLadyG said:The Californian university system is about to collapse, financially
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Maybe to you and others, but why not relax a bit otherwise you are not going to last 4 more years to the next electionCorrectHorseBattery said:They should have made masks compulsory from the day we locked down. They've done it too late (although they're right to make it compulsory now - and I welcome it despite all the flip flopping) and they will pay the consequences for being so utterly negligent.
Every passing day, this Government proves it is utterly incapable of actually governing. It is Government by opinion poll. It follows opinion, it does not make it.
What an utter farce.0 -
I know he stockpiled, but surely SeanT must have nearly exhausted his supply of different PB masks by now.Richard_Nabavi said:
Surely there will be some exemptions, for example those already wearing rose-tinted glasses?Ave_it said:New rules - from 24 July 2020 you will have to wear a mask when posting on pb.com
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Agreed looks like Priti PM #GE2024CorrectHorseBattery said:
No he should have lead by example and put one on weeks ago. A real failure that he has not.Ave_it said:
Good job Starmer has shown leadership on masksCorrectHorseBattery said:They should have made masks compulsory from the day we locked down. They've done it too late (although they're right to make it compulsory now - and I welcome it despite all the flip flopping) and they will pay the consequences for being so utterly negligent.
Every passing day, this Government proves it is utterly incapable of actually governing. It is Government by opinion poll. It follows opinion, it does not make it.
What an utter farce.0 -
See upthread. They want other countries to lend us the planes. And the rest of the ships.No_Offence_Alan said:Will this be the carrier with planes, or the one without?
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It is still nowhere near the worst case scenario regularly posted here by a certain PB’er apparently no longer with us.alex_ said:
It may seem an obvious point, but have you considered that the “modelling” for this “reasonable worst case scenario” is probably heavily influenced by drawing heavily on available historic pandemic comparisons? So a scenario largely modelled on Spanish flu is coming up with a worst case scenario if it... emulating Spanish flu outcomes! Incredible coincidence!LadyG said:
Great.williamglenn said:
Inter alia that implies 1-2 million American dead and maybe 10-20m worldwide
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How about you fuck off and stop telling me what to do. Prick.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Maybe to you and others, but why not relax a bit otherwise you are not going to last 4 more years to the next electionCorrectHorseBattery said:They should have made masks compulsory from the day we locked down. They've done it too late (although they're right to make it compulsory now - and I welcome it despite all the flip flopping) and they will pay the consequences for being so utterly negligent.
Every passing day, this Government proves it is utterly incapable of actually governing. It is Government by opinion poll. It follows opinion, it does not make it.
What an utter farce.-1 -
So please explain why Drakeford announced today, no masks for shops in Walesrottenborough said:
No, "fucking clueless" was how they were a week or two ago. Now they have surpassed themselves and are now "world class fucking clueless".RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.
Maybe they think it has been made an olympic sport?1 -
No, we were an unsuccessful trading nation, beset by recurring balance of payments crises and falling behind the continental economies. That is why we joined the EEC/EU. If you are referring to the nineteenth century, I think you may be forgetting that we no longer have a vast empire to pillage and force to trade with us on terms favourable to us.Big_G_NorthWales said:
We were a successful trading nation before we joined the EU and will be after we have leftBenpointer said:
Come on, you're brighter than this Philip. The £7bn is not the cost of Brexit, it's just one cost. It'll be dwarfed by cost of lost trade with the EU.Philip_Thompson said:FPT
Even just counting £9bn (and rapidly rising) based upon dubiously knocking off money that was spent in this country despite it not being something we'd voted to spend as a priority of ours still dwarves by an order of £2bn the alleged £7bn cost of Brexit - if you can believe that figure.Benpointer said:
As you well know, our net contribution was about £9bn.Philip_Thompson said:
Is that all?Scott_xP said:
Considering our EU membership fees were more than double that, what a bargain leaving is turning out to be!
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-7886/
Is it worth paying a £9bn fee to avoid £7bn in fees?
It will be different and huge changes are on the way that may well confound all the naysayers over the years to come
As I recall you didn't even vote for Brexit, so I don't know why you are trying to dress up billions of pounds of pointless red tape and needless impediments to trade with our neighbours as anything other than a ludicrous step backwards. The Tories' reputation as the party of business will never survive this, and nor should it.2 -
Wrt messaging on masks, Boris and the rest are definitely on the same page. Only Gove isn't and he's clearly been overruled. Good thing too. However, it's beyond ridiculous that the government doesn't speak with a single voiceRichard_Nabavi said:
That would work to some extent if they actually did wait, rather than saying one or multiple things and then contradicting themselves a couple of days later.Stuartinromford said:
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The current Downing Street team don't have a clue, which is why they're so slow to respond to anything. They have to wait for the polling data.
In truth though, I don't think it's about waiting for polling. I thinks it's just straightforward incompetence and lack of leadership.0 -
In the aisle in Aldi?Ave_it said:
What if you are eating a Parmo at the time?RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.0 -
Oooh....touchy!CorrectHorseBattery said:
How about you fuck off and stop telling me what to do. Prick.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Maybe to you and others, but why not relax a bit otherwise you are not going to last 4 more years to the next electionCorrectHorseBattery said:They should have made masks compulsory from the day we locked down. They've done it too late (although they're right to make it compulsory now - and I welcome it despite all the flip flopping) and they will pay the consequences for being so utterly negligent.
Every passing day, this Government proves it is utterly incapable of actually governing. It is Government by opinion poll. It follows opinion, it does not make it.
What an utter farce.1 -
Will you just have to wear one, or can you be fined for not wearing it properly? And given that a scarf is allowed, what is the approved way to wear a scarf?Philip_Thompson said:
Because if you're going to change the law at penalty of fines you need time to allow people to both get the information so that they know the law and give them time if need be to order masks online and get them delivered.RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless.0 -
Quite.alex_ said:
The “university experience” is going to be a barrel of laughs for the next couple of years.HYUFD said:
They are still doing online learningLadyG said:The Californian university system is about to collapse, financially
https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1282736707247304705?s=20
Why would you go to Uni now, if it just meant endless Zoom-lectures and staying at home to wank, sorry, study webinars and complete online blah blah
University is all about enjoying the new social life, stay up all night drinking with smart new people, making lifelong new friends from around the world, who have great tits/abs.
No one will take on £50-100k of debt to do internet quizzes.
The western university business model is facing a world of pain.1 -
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When is the Speaker going to get shirty about these announcements via media that are not made in Commons first?HYUFD said:BBC news says the government has confirmed facemasks will be made compulsory in shops with £100 fines for non compliance
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Isn't that what you normally do in Stockton?RochdalePioneers said:
In the aisle in Aldi?Ave_it said:
What if you are eating a Parmo at the time?RochdalePioneers said:It is IMPERATIVE that you wear a face mask. For the Public Good. From a week on Friday.
Seriously, does anyone want to explain why we need to wear them a week on Friday onwards but not tomorrow?
They really are fucking clueless. 0 -
Frankly that one particular user has been allowed to act like he's a moderator and to tell others what to do as rudely as he wants with no consequence for quite a while and I am fed up with it. And yet when they're called out they go on the defensive like the weak little prat they are. I call arrogant twats what they are and they are one.
Nobody has a right to tell anyone here what to do, end of story. I won't tell you what to do, you don't tell me what to do.0 -
I've been suffering increasing anxiety this last week or so. Working 3 days a week and furlough the other two makes for am I working (a 5 day week compressed into 3) or can sit on my arse? Brain doesn't know if I am coming or going frankly.
It's really not being helped by these cockwombles. A week on Friday I can go the gym and work myself into a sweaty mess indoors without a mask. Because it's safe. But cannot go indoors into a shop without a mask. Because it isn't safe.
Use your common sense? Come on. Some loon mentioned 4 years to an election - do you think I care about that? This is about our lives and sanity. Or lack of.0 -
I think it is more that what the government is thinking and saying today won’t necessarily be what they are thinking and saying tomorrow.MaxPB said:
Wrt messaging on masks, Boris and the rest are definitely on the same page. Only Gove isn't and he's clearly been overruled. Good thing too. However, it's beyond ridiculous that the government doesn't speak with a single voiceRichard_Nabavi said:
That would work to some extent if they actually did wait, rather than saying one or multiple things and then contradicting themselves a couple of days later.Stuartinromford said:
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The current Downing Street team don't have a clue, which is why they're so slow to respond to anything. They have to wait for the polling data.
In truth though, I don't think it's about waiting for polling. I thinks it's just straightforward incompetence and lack of leadership.0 -
If Trump pulls out of the race then Pence probably won't stand for president (even if he becomes president before election day), for the simple reason that Pence's role as head of the coronavirus task force means that his handling of the coronavirus crisis is Trump's handling of it. Not enough voters are stupid enough to be led by a little bit of differential mask choreography into viewing Pence as the guy who defeated or who will defeat the virus despite Trump not having a clue. If Trump falls whether by flouncing or otherwise he will fall hard.
That said, it was interesting that in the video in which they pre-emptively criticised Republican leaders such as Ted Cruz whom they predicted would try to distance themselves from Trump regardless of having supported him to the hilt, the Lincoln Project said not a word about Pence. Maybe they felt they didn't have to.0
