Big_G_NorthWales said:

williamglenn said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

williamglenn said:

HYUFD said:

williamglenn said:

Broken sleazy Brexit on the slide.

https://twitter.com/whatukthinks/status/1272563182712819712?s=21

So 1% fewer people think Brexit was wrong now than voted Remain in 2016, 5 months after Brexit happened

Based on your maths, 12% fewer people think Brexit was right compared to those who voted for it. The Tory party is shackled to a corpse of a political project.

Some corpse. We have left

We haven’t defused the grenade, just pulled out the pin.

Time to move on

No. There is way too much moving on in this country, particularly when posh white boys are involved.

It is time to be accountable.

Another one deserving the Arkell vs Pressdram reply:

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/raf-respond-to-question-over-cost-of-captain-tom-moore-birthday-flypast/

RochdalePioneers said:

With regards to the new 6 week deadline on a Brexit deal, the UK has already folded. Who knew that you couldn't create a physical international border and all the systems to apply tariffs and checks to literally everything crossing the border in jist a few months? Ok HMRC knew. Ok the ports knew. Ok the hauliers knew. But as we've had enough of experts it would have been unfair to expect ministers to know.

So, upon the termination of transition we will have a border wide open with no checks at all like now. The EU will permit such an arrangement on the basis that whilst the UK has the Right to have independent trade deals, no such deals will exist for years because unlike twatty ministerial prouncements in reality they take years.

So we exit transition both fully out of the EU and fully disconnected. However as we won't even have independently discovered man's red fire by that point we will be unable to go anywhere. As I keep saying, a proud independent UK disconnected from the EU gravy train. But not actually under power, still buffered up to the EU being pushed in the same direction at the same speed. We will open talks with Merica and others and as the deals they offer will inevitably be inferior to the ones we enjoy being pushed along by the EU our need to do deals will recede into the distance.

Eventually someone will lift the coupling back over the hook. We will carry on technically independent but practically connected in every way. A triumph of English exceptionalism

I'd love to negotiate with Boris Johnson. The EU officials must be pissing themselves. He couldn't negotiate a discount at SCS. To all those Tory members that thought making a clown PM was a good idea, I say, well done!

DavidL said:

Flatlander said:

DavidL said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1272553663966466054?s=20
https://twitter.com/jillongovt/status/1272554693500252162?s=20
https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1272557011239141377?s=20

In the overall scheme of things this is a mistake. There are a lot of vulnerable children that we have had limited contact with for too long. The risk is come the holidays they will go off grid completely. This is a good way to stay in touch and give them an out if they need it and in the scheme of things the money is modest.

The school would have to be open for several hours to make it worthwhile. Especially if the children can't all be delivered at once due to social distancing.

Who is going to do the supervising?

Edit: Is this about "food parcels" being stopped rather than actual school meals? In which case, they don't provide much contact...

The same people who have been available to cover key workers' kids and vulnerable kids during the previous holiday.

That's slightly different though. If there is a club of some sort at the school anyway, then fine.

I thought the noise was about the government stopping food parcels and / or food vouchers?

Nigel_Foremain said:

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1272566151030202368

I suppose that stops the scientists from having to front unscientific policy changes

Good. The scientists have been wrong too often and are not accountable for when they make these poor decisions. At least we get the chance to vote Boris out in a few years.

Builders' merchant Travis Perkins will slash 2,500 jobs and close 165 stores

MaxPB said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1272566151030202368

I suppose that stops the scientists from having to front unscientific policy changes

Good. The scientists have been wrong too often and are not accountable for when they make these poor decisions. At least we get the chance to vote Boris out in a few years.

Assuming we survive.

MaxPB said:

Nigel_Foremain said:

Scott_xP said:

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/status/1272566151030202368

I suppose that stops the scientists from having to front unscientific policy changes

Good. The scientists have been wrong too often and are not accountable for when they make these poor decisions. At least we get the chance to vote Boris out in a few years.

Assuming he is still leader in 4 years.

Andy_JS said:

https://twitter.com/cricketwyvern/status/1272519519177715716

Is it me or has there been a marked acceleration in the decline of deaths over the last week or so?

Big_G_NorthWales said:

williamglenn said:

HYUFD said:

williamglenn said:

Broken sleazy Brexit on the slide.

https://twitter.com/whatukthinks/status/1272563182712819712?s=21

So 1% fewer people think Brexit was wrong now than voted Remain in 2016, 5 months after Brexit happened

Based on your maths, 12% fewer people think Brexit was right compared to those who voted for it. The Tory party is shackled to a corpse of a political project.

Some corpse. We have left

Quite.
Shackled to a corpse with unbreakable shackles.

Flatlander said:

DavidL said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1272553663966466054?s=20
https://twitter.com/jillongovt/status/1272554693500252162?s=20
https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1272557011239141377?s=20

In the overall scheme of things this is a mistake. There are a lot of vulnerable children that we have had limited contact with for too long. The risk is come the holidays they will go off grid completely. This is a good way to stay in touch and give them an out if they need it and in the scheme of things the money is modest.

The school would have to be open for several hours to make it worthwhile. Especially if the children can't all be delivered at once due to social distancing.

Who is going to do the supervising?

Edit: Is this about "food parcels" being stopped rather than actual school meals? In which case, they don't provide much contact...

No, this is about the voucher scheme.
As the link makes quite clear:
The Manchester United and England striker has urged politicians to perform a U-turn and ensure that vulnerable pupils can continue to access the national voucher scheme, which was introduced in March to help poorer families feed their children when schools were closed under lockdown measures....
IOW it would be administratively extremely simple to continue.

Theuniondivvie said:

Nigelb said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/FullFact/status/1272559492589207554?s=20

But we had eye witness reports right here.....

I might be wrong, but it appears to me that the folk seeing blokes getting their throats cut right in front of the cops and our brave lads being hunted down by feral packs of Mau Mau are almost exactly the same types who see the hand of Islamic terrorism in every road accident or poor loon going off on one. Must be hell to be on that hair trigger of hysteria the whole time.

TBF, occasionally the wolf does actually exist.

DavidL said:

Flatlander said:

DavidL said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1272553663966466054?s=20
https://twitter.com/jillongovt/status/1272554693500252162?s=20
https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1272557011239141377?s=20

In the overall scheme of things this is a mistake. There are a lot of vulnerable children that we have had limited contact with for too long. The risk is come the holidays they will go off grid completely. This is a good way to stay in touch and give them an out if they need it and in the scheme of things the money is modest.

The school would have to be open for several hours to make it worthwhile. Especially if the children can't all be delivered at once due to social distancing.

Who is going to do the supervising?

Edit: Is this about "food parcels" being stopped rather than actual school meals? In which case, they don't provide much contact...

The same people who have been available to cover key workers' kids and vulnerable kids during the previous holiday.

My fear is that summer schools will be seen as solving the problem of greater inequalities in education arising from the lockdown. A typical need to be seen to be doing something, anything.

The reality is that, for the majority of pupils, there will be plenty of time to understand and mitigate the impact of the past few months. State schools should be given additional funding over the next, say, five years to understand and address the impact on individual pupils. The approach should be quite different for pupils at different stages to reflect how much time they have left in education. It won’t be cheap but it can be done if schools are given the resources to design and implement the right solutions for their pupils over time.

It’s not universally bad news. As a school Governor, I have kept in contact with the Subject Leaders with whom I am linked; they tell me that some pupils have produced surprisingly good work during lockdown, better than during normal times. They say this mainly involves lower ability boys who have relished project based homework, undisturbed by mates, unworried about the stigma of being seen to enjoy schoolwork. Whatever the reasons, time should be taken to understand and build positively on these experiences.

williamglenn said:

HYUFD said:

williamglenn said:

Broken sleazy Brexit on the slide.

https://twitter.com/whatukthinks/status/1272563182712819712?s=21

So 1% fewer people think Brexit was wrong now than voted Remain in 2016, 5 months after Brexit happened

Based on your maths, 12% fewer people think Brexit was right compared to those who voted for it. The Tory party is shackled to a corpse of a political project.

It isn't, the median voter is don't know, most of them voted Leave and do not yet regret it.

However given 40% think Brexit was right, that is still enough to keep the Tories in power under FPTP on its own

Nigel_Foremain said:

RochdalePioneers said:

With regards to the new 6 week deadline on a Brexit deal, the UK has already folded. Who knew that you couldn't create a physical international border and all the systems to apply tariffs and checks to literally everything crossing the border in jist a few months? Ok HMRC knew. Ok the ports knew. Ok the hauliers knew. But as we've had enough of experts it would have been unfair to expect ministers to know.

So, upon the termination of transition we will have a border wide open with no checks at all like now. The EU will permit such an arrangement on the basis that whilst the UK has the Right to have independent trade deals, no such deals will exist for years because unlike twatty ministerial prouncements in reality they take years.

So we exit transition both fully out of the EU and fully disconnected. However as we won't even have independently discovered man's red fire by that point we will be unable to go anywhere. As I keep saying, a proud independent UK disconnected from the EU gravy train. But not actually under power, still buffered up to the EU being pushed in the same direction at the same speed. We will open talks with Merica and others and as the deals they offer will inevitably be inferior to the ones we enjoy being pushed along by the EU our need to do deals will recede into the distance.

Eventually someone will lift the coupling back over the hook. We will carry on technically independent but practically connected in every way. A triumph of English exceptionalism

I'd love to negotiate with Boris Johnson. The EU officials must be pissing themselves. He couldn't negotiate a discount at SCS. To all those Tory members that thought making a clown PM was a good idea, I say, well done!

Boris was elected Tory leader to deliver Brexit and beat Corbyn, he has already done both

DavidL said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

FrancisUrquhart said:

Builders' merchant Travis Perkins will slash 2,500 jobs and close 165 stores

That does surprise me. Lots of DIY going on around here

Maybe but far less construction work.

The builders merchant business is much like the off-license business a couple of years back - a number of outfits offering terrible value for money.

The sector is due a massive shakeout.

HYUFD said:

williamglenn said:

HYUFD said:

williamglenn said:

Broken sleazy Brexit on the slide.

https://twitter.com/whatukthinks/status/1272563182712819712?s=21

So 1% fewer people think Brexit was wrong now than voted Remain in 2016, 5 months after Brexit happened

Based on your maths, 12% fewer people think Brexit was right compared to those who voted for it. The Tory party is shackled to a corpse of a political project.

It isn't, the median voter is don't know, most of them voted Leave and do not yet regret it.

However given 40% think Brexit was right, that is still enough to keep the Tories in power under FPTP on its own

Not if the "right but you've capitulated" vote goes to Farage and the "right but you've screwed it up" vote goes to Starmer.

https://twitter.com/HeartThamesNews/status/1272578444652666880

https://twitter.com/ashishkjha/status/1272497801038049280

Rexel56 said:

DavidL said:

Flatlander said:

DavidL said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1272553663966466054?s=20
https://twitter.com/jillongovt/status/1272554693500252162?s=20
https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1272557011239141377?s=20

In the overall scheme of things this is a mistake. There are a lot of vulnerable children that we have had limited contact with for too long. The risk is come the holidays they will go off grid completely. This is a good way to stay in touch and give them an out if they need it and in the scheme of things the money is modest.

The school would have to be open for several hours to make it worthwhile. Especially if the children can't all be delivered at once due to social distancing.

Who is going to do the supervising?

Edit: Is this about "food parcels" being stopped rather than actual school meals? In which case, they don't provide much contact...

The same people who have been available to cover key workers' kids and vulnerable kids during the previous holiday.

My fear is that summer schools will be seen as solving the problem of greater inequalities in education arising from the lockdown. A typical need to be seen to be doing something, anything.

The reality is that, for the majority of pupils, there will be plenty of time to understand and mitigate the impact of the past few months. State schools should be given additional funding over the next, say, five years to understand and address the impact on individual pupils. The approach should be quite different for pupils at different stages to reflect how much time they have left in education. It won’t be cheap but it can be done if schools are given the resources to design and implement the right solutions for their pupils over time.

It’s not universally bad news. As a school Governor, I have kept in contact with the Subject Leaders with whom I am linked; they tell me that some pupils have produced surprisingly good work during lockdown, better than during normal times. They say this mainly involves lower ability boys who have relished project based homework, undisturbed by mates, unworried about the stigma of being seen to enjoy schoolwork. Whatever the reasons, time should be taken to understand and build positively on these experiences.

It is not a solution to the problems of inequality but it is a help. Other things may be done as well. Some of those kids will not be in school for 5 more years. Those whose exams were cancelled this year and are under threat next are in particular peril.

Still flogging the Cummins dead horse??

partypoliticalorphan said:

My son in year 10 will return to school next week - for one day a week. Apparently Government guidance is that at most a quarter of the year group can attend at once. As they are the only year group to be attending school this seems very cautious.

Its absurd. My son's school have made plans for their return after the holidays for 2m, 1m, no distancing and remote learning. Its a bit of a nightmare for them. Older children are going to get blocks of the same subject for a whole morning or afternoon to reduce their travel around the school as much as possible.

matthiasfromhamburg said:

contrarian said:

CarlottaVance said:

Germany's annual contribution to the EU budget would increase by 42% based on the current proposal from the European Commission, German newspaper Die Welt reported Monday, citing government calculations.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-eu-coronavirus-budget-increase/a-53806800

LOL

Ouch!! What a cataclysmic desaster!

That might consume around half of our average yearly budget surplus.
We'll have to start eating turnips to survive...

Yes - hate to say it but you Germans seem to always be that one step ahead of the game.

Looks like you might be solving the Maddie case now too. Our plods have been at that one for yonks with no joy.

Grrr.

DavidL said:

Rexel56 said:

DavidL said:

Flatlander said:

DavidL said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/anandMenon1/status/1272553663966466054?s=20
https://twitter.com/jillongovt/status/1272554693500252162?s=20
https://twitter.com/colinrtalbot/status/1272557011239141377?s=20

In the overall scheme of things this is a mistake. There are a lot of vulnerable children that we have had limited contact with for too long. The risk is come the holidays they will go off grid completely. This is a good way to stay in touch and give them an out if they need it and in the scheme of things the money is modest.

The school would have to be open for several hours to make it worthwhile. Especially if the children can't all be delivered at once due to social distancing.

Who is going to do the supervising?

Edit: Is this about "food parcels" being stopped rather than actual school meals? In which case, they don't provide much contact...

The same people who have been available to cover key workers' kids and vulnerable kids during the previous holiday.

My fear is that summer schools will be seen as solving the problem of greater inequalities in education arising from the lockdown. A typical need to be seen to be doing something, anything.

The reality is that, for the majority of pupils, there will be plenty of time to understand and mitigate the impact of the past few months. State schools should be given additional funding over the next, say, five years to understand and address the impact on individual pupils. The approach should be quite different for pupils at different stages to reflect how much time they have left in education. It won’t be cheap but it can be done if schools are given the resources to design and implement the right solutions for their pupils over time.

It’s not universally bad news. As a school Governor, I have kept in contact with the Subject Leaders with whom I am linked; they tell me that some pupils have produced surprisingly good work during lockdown, better than during normal times. They say this mainly involves lower ability boys who have relished project based homework, undisturbed by mates, unworried about the stigma of being seen to enjoy schoolwork. Whatever the reasons, time should be taken to understand and build positively on these experiences.

It is not a solution to the problems of inequality but it is a help. Other things may be done as well. Some of those kids will not be in school for 5 more years. Those whose exams were cancelled this year and are under threat next are in particular peril.

Indeed, thus the suggestion that the approach be tailored depending on how much time pupils do have left in the system (maybe even adding one or two years for some). Next summer’s exams are certainly a concern. Our working assumption is that there will again be an element of school assessment of grades, possibly combined with slimmed down exams. Certainly, pupils will be encouraged to take topic and termly assessments seriously, especially the Christmas mocks.

I watched Drakeford at lunchtime.

Normally someone I have no time for. The pandemic has made him appear less of a clown. In fairness he is now coming over as more forthright and self assured than for example Raab earlier and Johnson generally.

More or less on topic i.e Johnson's general performance.

My big takeaway from the press conference was that Drakeford stated he has not spoken with the PM for three weeks this Thursday or any other cabinet member bar the Secretary of State for Wales. He is apparently in regular contact with counterparts in Scotland and Northern Ireland.

williamglenn said:

HYUFD said:

williamglenn said:

HYUFD said:

williamglenn said:

Broken sleazy Brexit on the slide.

https://twitter.com/whatukthinks/status/1272563182712819712?s=21

So 1% fewer people think Brexit was wrong now than voted Remain in 2016, 5 months after Brexit happened

Based on your maths, 12% fewer people think Brexit was right compared to those who voted for it. The Tory party is shackled to a corpse of a political project.

It isn't, the median voter is don't know, most of them voted Leave and do not yet regret it.

However given 40% think Brexit was right, that is still enough to keep the Tories in power under FPTP on its own

Not if the "right but you've capitulated" vote goes to Farage and the "right but you've screwed it up" vote goes to Starmer.

No even then too if the Remain vote goes to the LDs, SNP and Greens too and some Leavers also shift from Labour to Farage

DavidL said:

matthiasfromhamburg said:

contrarian said:

CarlottaVance said:

Germany's annual contribution to the EU budget would increase by 42% based on the current proposal from the European Commission, German newspaper Die Welt reported Monday, citing government calculations.

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-eu-coronavirus-budget-increase/a-53806800

LOL

Ouch!! What a cataclysmic desaster!

That might consume around half of our average yearly budget surplus.
We'll have to start eating turnips to survive...

You'll have to prise them out of @malcolmg's cold dead hands first.

Say something rude about Alex Salmond and he’ll throw them at you.