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In terms of audience and the length and quality of our comment threads the site is going through just about its strongest period ever. Inevitably the pandemic is keeping many people at home and PB has become a great place to come.
FFS...Mike....I saw the threader head and the picture...I thought we were being told you were taking the leap to the great unknown....
Anyway I bunged you 50 notes....and think you should still put these ads on periodically....I know the site is mostly populated by Brexiteer types with short arms and deep pockets...
FFS...Mike....I saw the threader head and the picture...I thought we were being told you were taking the leap to the great unknown....
Anyway I bunged you 50 notes....and think you should still put these ads on periodically....I know the site is mostly populated by Brexiteer types with short arms and deep pockets...
But it's a really good site
Shall we make it a competition between Remainers and Brexiteers? That'll really pump up the donation totals.
I've never successfully managed to bet on a tip from this site, but I've had 15 years of really good entertainment and interest. Very happy to donate to keep it afloat.
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
I'll confess I have a strong love/hate relationship with this site, but I owe it and would miss it if it went. So donation made. Hope it all works out Mike, and stay healthy (that goes for everyone else too).
FFS...Mike....I saw the threader head and the picture...I thought we were being told you were taking the leap to the great unknown....
Anyway I bunged you 50 notes....and think you should still put these ads on periodically....I know the site is mostly populated by Brexiteer types with short arms and deep pockets...
But it's a really good site
Shall we make it a competition between Remainers and Brexiteers? That'll really pump up the donation totals.
I reckon we should recruit the Walking Captain to fund raise for OGH....
FFS...Mike....I saw the threader head and the picture...I thought we were being told you were taking the leap to the great unknown....
Anyway I bunged you 50 notes....and think you should still put these ads on periodically....I know the site is mostly populated by Brexiteer types with short arms and deep pockets...
But it's a really good site
Shall we make it a competition between Remainers and Brexiteers? That'll really pump up the donation totals.
I reckon we should recruit the Walking Captain to fund raise for OGH....
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It's a tiered structure, for up to 250k page views a month it is $689 per month.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
Edit - That's just via the vanilla forums, and not including via the main site.
FFS...Mike....I saw the threader head and the picture...I thought we were being told you were taking the leap to the great unknown....
Anyway I bunged you 50 notes....and think you should still put these ads on periodically....I know the site is mostly populated by Brexiteer types with short arms and deep pockets...
But it's a really good site
Shall we make it a competition between Remainers and Brexiteers? That'll really pump up the donation totals.
I reckon we should recruit the Walking Captain to fund raise for OGH....
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It's a tiered structure, for up to 250k page views a month it is $689 per month.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It's a tiered structure, for up to 250k page views a month it is $689 per month.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
Edit - That's just via the vanilla forums, and not including via the main site.
So if we access through the main site, does it not get charged for?
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
As a general rule, be greedy when others are fearful. Luxury goods like wine may suddenly become cheaper in the short term if no one is buying.
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It's a tiered structure, for up to 250k page views a month it is $689 per month.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
Edit - That's just via the vanilla forums, and not including via the main site.
So if we access through the main site, does it not get charged for?
We do, it's still a page view.
I just only have the stats for via the vanilla forums to hand.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It's a tiered structure, for up to 250k page views a month it is $689 per month.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
Half of those might be me. Sorry about that.
So would it help if we disciplined ourselves and looked less often?
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
Or you might be paid to drink it.
'He died as he lived, chugging as much claret as he could'
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
Or you might be paid to drink it.
I thought that was already part and parcel of being a travel writer?
FFS...Mike....I saw the threader head and the picture...I thought we were being told you were taking the leap to the great unknown....
Anyway I bunged you 50 notes....and think you should still put these ads on periodically....I know the site is mostly populated by Brexiteer types with short arms and deep pockets...
But it's a really good site
Shall we make it a competition between Remainers and Brexiteers? That'll really pump up the donation totals.
I reckon we should recruit the Walking Captain to fund raise for OGH....
OGH doing laps of his property on a unicycle?
With the entire LibDem parliamentary party balancing on his shoulders?
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
And apparently a trade agreement between China and Australia means Australian wines are displacing French wine sales.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Train as a nurse or doctor - there seems to be some demand for those.
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It's a tiered structure, for up to 250k page views a month it is $689 per month.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
Half of those might be me. Sorry about that.
So would it help if we disciplined ourselves and looked less often?
The other question is, does refreshing the page count as a new view? Or is it done on fresh hits?
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
It could be the first luxury product to be hammered. Outrageously pricey wine depends so much on discretionary spending by socially aspirant Asians. Not a great market to be reliant upon
I'm inclined to agree with you.
However, I expected my sales of rare books to tank.
They haven't.
In some areas, they've gone up. Lower priced (£50-350), very unusual books are still selling really well.
My main problem is fulfilment. I can't send the books I've had orders for because the institutions that have ordered them are closed.
I've donated in the past and am happy to do so this time. I'm told by my family I spend more time reading PB than I do with them (I'm not sure they think this is good...).
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM. I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It's a tiered structure, for up to 250k page views a month it is $689 per month.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
Half of those might be me. Sorry about that.
So would it help if we disciplined ourselves and looked less often?
The other question is, does refreshing the page count as a new view? Or is it done on fresh hits?
Yes, quite. I had no idea vanilla charged by page views. I will now feel guilty as I reload.
I presumed the more times I hit the site, the better it was for OGH
Don't feel guilty, the more you refreshed, it increased the ad revenues for PB, which mitigates the cost of the servers and vanilla a little bit.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
It could be the first luxury product to be hammered. Outrageously pricey wine depends so much on discretionary spending by socially aspirant Asians. Not a great market to be reliant upon
I'm inclined to agree with you.
However, I expected my sales of rare books to tank.
They haven't.
In some areas, they've gone up. Lower priced (£50-350), very unusual books are still selling really well.
My main problem is fulfilment. I can't send the books I've had orders for because the institutions that have ordered them are closed.
The collectibles/valuables markets - stamps, watches etc - are seeing some odd patterns, I've been told. Some parts roaring along - well above usual numbers
I have to admit I've made some decisions for the future.
I'm unlikely to go overseas for the near future, airplanes, even in first class, they seem like ideal vectors to spread something like Covid-19.
If Covid-19 or something similar comes back in the future then I really don't want to be trapped overseas as the planes stop and get stuck in an overwhelmed health system like America or Italy.
How many regulars are there here? Not just the regular posters, but lurkers as well. I've been reading this site since before Gordon Brown became PM, probably hours a day, but have only posted 75 times. So lack of posts doesnt correlate with number of page views.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
It could be the first luxury product to be hammered. Outrageously pricey wine depends so much on discretionary spending by socially aspirant Asians. Not a great market to be reliant upon
I'm inclined to agree with you.
However, I expected my sales of rare books to tank.
They haven't.
In some areas, they've gone up. Lower priced (£50-350), very unusual books are still selling really well.
My main problem is fulfilment. I can't send the books I've had orders for because the institutions that have ordered them are closed.
The collectibles/valuables markets - stamps, watches etc - are seeing some odd patterns, I've been told. Some parts roaring along - well above usual numbers
Whereas the classic car market is on its arse, except for the very top eight-figure cars.
I have to admit I've made some decisions for the future.
I'm unlikely to go overseas for the near future, airplanes, even in first class, they seem like ideal vectors to spread something like Covid-19.
If Covid-19 or something similar comes back in the future then I really don't want to be trapped overseas as the planes stop and get stuck in an overwhelmed health system like America or Italy.
I was supposed to be on US, Japan and Australia this year. Unless i accidentally become a plague survivor, there is absolutely no chance i am getting on a load of long haul flights.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
It could be the first luxury product to be hammered. Outrageously pricey wine depends so much on discretionary spending by socially aspirant Asians. Not a great market to be reliant upon
I'm inclined to agree with you.
However, I expected my sales of rare books to tank.
They haven't.
In some areas, they've gone up. Lower priced (£50-350), very unusual books are still selling really well.
My main problem is fulfilment. I can't send the books I've had orders for because the institutions that have ordered them are closed.
The collectibles/valuables markets - stamps, watches etc - are seeing some odd patterns, I've been told. Some parts roaring along - well above usual numbers
Yes, I've heard the same.
I suspect its partly because much of the trade is incestuous, within the trade. Because new sources (auctions, house clearances, private sales) have dried up, supply is limiting and prices are finding a new level.
Plus, lots of the customers are on fixed incomes...
Out of interest, I still see adverts at the top, so I presume they are paying less because fewer companies are buying digital ads?
Youtube ads are down about 50% by revenue in the last couple of months. Lots of companies are just not interested in advertising at the moment, for obvious reasons.
Out of interest, I still see adverts at the top, so I presume they are paying less because fewer companies are buying digital ads?
I keep getting some very weird people who can help me to get a knighthood or OBE. And, no, this is not targetted to my personal browsing habits as far as I can see.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
I've at least four years worth of outgoings in the bank and a fairly secure job, even though I've been told there will be no bonuses this year, about a quarter of my income.
And I have stopped spending. I don't mean, I've stopped spending on going out, that's taken as a given. I mean, I have looked at all the large discretionary purchases I was planning on making this year, from a new gaming rig, a refurbished bathroom, to another snazzy new watch, and said OK, that will have to wait. The jeweller has already phoned me desperate to know if I want to skip the wait list. But no. Apparently everyone else has had the same idea.
Unless it's absolutely essential or breaks, the money stays in my pocket.
And I am quite well off. I can only imagine what people who were living hand to mouth before all this are feeling.
The economy is in dire shape, it will get worse from here, I think only discount brands selling essential products have a chance of doing well or even surviving this.
This is a health crisis, but an economic catastrophe.
How many regulars are there here? Not just the regular posters, but lurkers as well. I've been reading this site since before Gordon Brown became PM, probably hours a day, but have only posted 75 times. So lack of posts doesnt correlate with number of page views.
Oh and I donated.
75 times since it switched to Vanilla. Don’t forget it was previously Disqus (left when they started nesting threads) and before something incredibly weird that was alternately blue and white.
I have to admit I've made some decisions for the future.
I'm unlikely to go overseas for the near future, airplanes, even in first class, they seem like ideal vectors to spread something like Covid-19.
If Covid-19 or something similar comes back in the future then I really don't want to be trapped overseas as the planes stop and get stuck in an overwhelmed health system like America or Italy.
Truly gloomy. The second wave will likely be worse.
This is with us for a year, or more, and we are only in the foothills.
I did, is the view of experts in this field my father knows.
They think what will happen is once the lockdown is over people will go back to normal, or ignore social distancing, and the second wave will be much worse.
Let's be honest, we're all making plans to see friends and family once this all over, it'll be a collection of large parties at home and we're all buggered.
Out of interest, I still see adverts at the top, so I presume they are paying less because fewer companies are buying digital ads?
I keep getting some very weird people who can help me to get a knighthood or OBE. And, no, this is not targetted to my personal browsing habits as far as I can see.
Who was it who complained that he was getting adverts to a load of inappropriate websites, not apparently realising that it was drawn from his Google search patterns?
I have to admit I've made some decisions for the future.
I'm unlikely to go overseas for the near future, airplanes, even in first class, they seem like ideal vectors to spread something like Covid-19.
If Covid-19 or something similar comes back in the future then I really don't want to be trapped overseas as the planes stop and get stuck in an overwhelmed health system like America or Italy.
I was supposed to be on US, Japan and Australia this year. Unless i accidentally become a plague survivor, there is absolutely no chance i am getting on a load of long haul flights.
Have to admit I'm not keen on using trains, which might be an issue as I'm a daily train user.
I have to admit I've made some decisions for the future.
I'm unlikely to go overseas for the near future, airplanes, even in first class, they seem like ideal vectors to spread something like Covid-19.
If Covid-19 or something similar comes back in the future then I really don't want to be trapped overseas as the planes stop and get stuck in an overwhelmed health system like America or Italy.
Yep, not travelling for probably the rest of the year now.
Work can be done from home via the various remote tools available, now that people being forced to adopt WFH are realising we can be nearly as productive for a lot less cost of travel and office space.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
Wine growers of France start panicking now!
It’s not calamitous. Yet. But I’ve gone from daily drinking wines in the £20-£40 bracket to the £10-£20 range.
Indeed I reckon absurdly expensive French wine is going to take a big hit in this crisis. It is wildly overpriced. The Chinese are staring at their first recession in 50 years. And they are huge buyers of hideously expensive claret.
Coming soon to a Lidl near you, Haut Brion for a fiver
If it follows oil, bottles may be more expensive than the contents....
It could be the first luxury product to be hammered. Outrageously pricey wine depends so much on discretionary spending by socially aspirant Asians. Not a great market to be reliant upon
I'm inclined to agree with you.
However, I expected my sales of rare books to tank.
They haven't.
In some areas, they've gone up. Lower priced (£50-350), very unusual books are still selling really well.
My main problem is fulfilment. I can't send the books I've had orders for because the institutions that have ordered them are closed.
The collectibles/valuables markets - stamps, watches etc - are seeing some odd patterns, I've been told. Some parts roaring along - well above usual numbers
Rolex Daytonas (the epitome of an overpriced asset) down about 25% on the secondary market in the last week.
Presumably because the ADs can't give them away at a third of the price right now.
Out of interest, I still see adverts at the top, so I presume they are paying less because fewer companies are buying digital ads?
I keep getting some very weird people who can help me to get a knighthood or OBE. And, no, this is not targetted to my personal browsing habits as far as I can see.
Who was it who complained that he was getting adverts to a load of inappropriate websites, not apparently realising that it was drawn from his Google search patterns?
Teenage Ukrainian brides, I think it was. Can't remember the poster - he may have re self identified after that episode.
Out of interest, I still see adverts at the top, so I presume they are paying less because fewer companies are buying digital ads?
I keep getting some very weird people who can help me to get a knighthood or OBE. And, no, this is not targetted to my personal browsing habits as far as I can see.
That's probably my fault and my attempts to get a Royal Dukedom or a GCMG.
For the first time in a long while, I am worried about money. And I have a decent amount, by the standards of most people.
But what will my future income be? I simply don’t know. And I am the breadwinner for three people. They all depend on me. If I got this bug and croaked they’d be screwed.
I find myself pondering the price of a bottle of really nice wine, and thinking, hmm, maybe not. Dial it down
If that is happening to me it must be happening to 99.9% of humanity. Consumer demand is going to nosedive
I've at least four years worth of outgoings in the bank and a fairly secure job, even though I've been told there will be no bonuses this year, about a quarter of my income.
And I have stopped spending. I don't mean, I've stopped spending on going out, that's taken as a given. I mean, I have looked at all the large discretionary purchases I was planning on making this year, from a new gaming rig, a refurbished bathroom, to another snazzy new watch, and said OK, that will have to wait. The jeweller has already phoned me desperate to know if I want to skip the wait list. But no. Apparently everyone else has had the same idea.
Unless it's absolutely essential or breaks, the money stays in my pocket.
And I am quite well off. I can only imagine what people who were living hand to mouth before all this are feeling.
The economy is in dire shape, it will get worse from here, I think only discount brands selling essential products have a chance of doing well or even surviving this.
This is a health crisis, but an economic catastrophe.
Yes. Same here. And I have a guaranteed healthy income for the next couple years. The money goes on my kids, food, ok-ish wine, that’s it. I don’t need any clothes, champagne or absurd electronics.
It’s just too frightening right now.
On the upside, before all this happened my accountant told me: ‘to feel secure you need a year with basically spending nothing. Then you will catch up with the taxman’
Well, my retirement has come at a titanic moment. We have three discrete sets of sources of income and all three are looking a little shaky at present. But we’d budgeted on the basis that markets might crash 30% when we pressed the button, so we should be ok.
We’re cutting down our expenditure now because there’s nothing much to spend money on. However, that’s only temporary.
I’m planning later in the year to see what pride of possession purchases might be out there. I doubt I can persuade the household FD that we need a sports car but works of art might get budgetary approval.
Have done so before and happy to bung a mite or so at the end of the week (pension arrives). It occurs to me as Mike and "co conspirators" don't get anything out of this, might not PB be turned into charitable status.. so getting HMRC top-ups to taxpayer contributors, as well as other possible tax breaks? We seem to have enough eminent lawyers on hand to advise.
Funnily enough although an important community resource right now I'm not so sure the quality of the debate is at its best. A bunch of people selectively quoting whichever epidemiologist most closely agrees with their point of view.
While most also, with a few notable exceptions, giving the government a free pass on whatever on the hoof policy seems most expedient at any particular time.
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Damn, Richard III
£50 on the way, OGH
I hope you’re not harbouring inappropriate thoughts about your nieces...
https://twitter.com/ProfTimBale/status/1252264843488440327
Anyway I bunged you 50 notes....and think you should still put these ads on periodically....I know the site is mostly populated by Brexiteer types with short arms and deep pockets...
But it's a really good site
That’s so kinky even SeanT would blink at it.
What I'm curious about is what the running cost of the site is. Does vanilla charge based on traffic or posts or storage? And what's the typical monthly cost and how much does it increase at times when there are high volumes of posts. I guess this might be commercially sensitive so perhaps not something to be posted but I'd welcome a DM.
I'm curious because I like to have a feel for these things, not because I'm going to set up something similar...
It was a fully paid up, out and out fury of jealousy.
Spend it on oil. Negative oil prices...? What the hell has happened to the world.
Thanks Mike and team, for all the work behind the scenes.
Above that it goes up a lot.
Currently we're on nearly a million page views in the last month.
Edit - That's just via the vanilla forums, and not including via the main site.
So we've more than doubled since January.
I just only have the stats for via the vanilla forums to hand.
Range at 30-tonne payload: 4,500 km (2,450 nmi)
Range at 20-tonne payload: 6,400 km (3,450 nmi)
The distance to Turkey is 2800Km. Given that the PPE is low density, the issue may also be volume.
However, I expected my sales of rare books to tank.
They haven't.
In some areas, they've gone up. Lower priced (£50-350), very unusual books are still selling really well.
My main problem is fulfilment. I can't send the books I've had orders for because the institutions that have ordered them are closed.
I'm unlikely to go overseas for the near future, airplanes, even in first class, they seem like ideal vectors to spread something like Covid-19.
If Covid-19 or something similar comes back in the future then I really don't want to be trapped overseas as the planes stop and get stuck in an overwhelmed health system like America or Italy.
Oh and I donated.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/11438821/how-to-see-starlink-elon-musk-spacex-satelite-uk/
I suspect its partly because much of the trade is incestuous, within the trade. Because new sources (auctions, house clearances, private sales) have dried up, supply is limiting and prices are finding a new level.
Plus, lots of the customers are on fixed incomes...
And I have stopped spending. I don't mean, I've stopped spending on going out, that's taken as a given. I mean, I have looked at all the large discretionary purchases I was planning on making this year, from a new gaming rig, a refurbished bathroom, to another snazzy new watch, and said OK, that will have to wait. The jeweller has already phoned me desperate to know if I want to skip the wait list. But no. Apparently everyone else has had the same idea.
Unless it's absolutely essential or breaks, the money stays in my pocket.
And I am quite well off. I can only imagine what people who were living hand to mouth before all this are feeling.
The economy is in dire shape, it will get worse from here, I think only discount brands selling essential products have a chance of doing well or even surviving this.
This is a health crisis, but an economic catastrophe.
They think what will happen is once the lockdown is over people will go back to normal, or ignore social distancing, and the second wave will be much worse.
Let's be honest, we're all making plans to see friends and family once this all over, it'll be a collection of large parties at home and we're all buggered.
Work can be done from home via the various remote tools available, now that people being forced to adopt WFH are realising we can be nearly as productive for a lot less cost of travel and office space.
Presumably because the ADs can't give them away at a third of the price right now.
'Tis but a small fraction of my winnings from good tips over the years, though I did miss out on one famous 50/1 tip some years ago...
But more than the financial return, it has given me great pleasure arguing and punning over the years.
We’re cutting down our expenditure now because there’s nothing much to spend money on. However, that’s only temporary.
I’m planning later in the year to see what pride of possession purchases might be out there. I doubt I can persuade the household FD that we need a sports car but works of art might get budgetary approval.
It occurs to me as Mike and "co conspirators" don't get anything out of this, might not PB be turned into charitable status.. so getting HMRC top-ups to taxpayer contributors, as well as other possible tax breaks? We seem to have enough eminent lawyers on hand to advise.
Funnily enough although an important community resource right now I'm not so sure the quality of the debate is at its best. A bunch of people selectively quoting whichever epidemiologist most closely agrees with their point of view.
While most also, with a few notable exceptions, giving the government a free pass on whatever on the hoof policy seems most expedient at any particular time.
And donated, obvs.