What you have to understand is that the oil market is very different from any other.
The replies under that thread, from people who clearly know nothing about oil, are terribly amusing.
No, it doesn’t arrive in single barrels worth more than the contents. Yes, storage needs planning permission and needs to be in regulated vessels. No, the price doesn’t include delivery, you have to pick it up yourself. No, you can’t ‘buy’ it at a negative price then just pour it away.
I mentioned down thread, the occasion that some traders at one oil company screwed over some bankers who thought they could raid the oil market. They got cheap oil, all right. Then found out that the only available storage was owned by the company the traders they had dealt with, worked for.....
How much does an oil tanker cost? In for a penny, in for a pound.
Ed Thorpe, who invented and popularised card-counting to win at Blackjack, once part-owned an oil tanker bought when storage was cheap but hedged by its scrap value, or something like that.
You can buy rust buckets for pennies. Providing you are OK with killing some of the crew now and then.
And you have the financial structure that Rob Lowe's character in the West Wing setup - ship is owned by a company which has no assets apart from the ship. The company is then controlled via a stack of shell companies via offshore.
So when the ship sinks and fucks up half the coastline of a country, the 1st company declares bankruptcy and you walk away untouched.
Bit concerned inspector poriot of twitter, might be more inspectator gadget, as he is currently asking twitter who the head of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee is.
This is by far the bigger news. If this is true then.... most western nations have made an historic error based on weird Chinese behaviour and a health system break down in Lombardy
Is there any reason to believe that the Cushing situation won't also play out like this in late May? Late June? Because it is hard to see how the tanks in Cushing are going to be drained in coming weeks.
Likely to be volatile, because the oil futures market amplifies price fluctuations. But yes, the big picture is that the oil price has collapsed and ain't gonna recover much anytime soon.
This is by far the bigger news. If this is true then.... most western nations have made an historic error based on weird Chinese behaviour and a health system break down in Lombardy
What you have to understand is that the oil market is very different from any other.
The replies under that thread, from people who clearly know nothing about oil, are terribly amusing.
No, it doesn’t arrive in single barrels worth more than the contents. Yes, storage needs planning permission and needs to be in regulated vessels. No, the price doesn’t include delivery, you have to pick it up yourself. No, you can’t ‘buy’ it at a negative price then just pour it away.
I mentioned down thread, the occasion that some traders at one oil company screwed over some bankers who thought they could raid the oil market. They got cheap oil, all right. Then found out that the only available storage was owned by the company the traders they had dealt with, worked for.....
How much does an oil tanker cost? In for a penny, in for a pound.
Ed Thorpe, who invented and popularised card-counting to win at Blackjack, once part-owned an oil tanker bought when storage was cheap but hedged by its scrap value, or something like that.
You can buy rust buckets for pennies. Providing you are OK with killing some of the crew now and then.
And you have the financial structure that Rob Lowe's character in the West Wing setup - ship is owned by a company which has no assets apart from the ship. The company is then controlled via a stack of shell companies via offshore.
So when the ship sinks and fucks up half the coastline of a country, the 1st company declares bankruptcy and you walk away untouched.
Sam the Seaborne expert iirc
Yup - in a later episode he gets upset when a whistleblower uses a legal dodge to protect himself by implicating Sam and others. Given that Sam apparently is a genius at the scam deals above, I thought the whistleblower was just being sensible, given who he was dealing with.
On spending for as long as I'm getting a full salary my plan is to spend as normally as possible - I'm conscious others depend on it.
This does not extend to South Western Railway.
So how does that read across to property buying. I put an offer in on a house in Manchester in November at the asking price. I'm buying from the builder and they have been very slow so we haven't exchanged yet. Should I be holding the price, or looking for a discount as cash is probably worth more to them now and prices will be falling soon if not already?
I had never heard of Cushing, until a comment down thread.
"Cushing, Oklahoma, 70 miles northeast of Oklahoma City, is a sleepy town with a population just under 8,000. It’s also the intense focus of every major player in the American oil market right now.
North American crude oil is pouring into Cushing, where dozens of steel storage tanks fan out from the outskirts of town, tank farms that march on for miles and connect to every major oil patch in North America through an maze of pipelines. Cushing’s nickname is “The Pipeline Crossroads of the World.”
It’s one of the largest crude oil storage hubs on Earth, and in the U.S. arguably the most important. Delivery for West Texas Intermediate crude is taken here, priced for Nymex contracts and stored before it’s shipped to refineries."
This is by far the bigger news. If this is true then.... most western nations have made an historic error based on weird Chinese behaviour and a health system break down in Lombardy
I don't understand this false dichotomy between systems. Sweden is 75% less travel, the UK 85% and Italy and Spain deployed the Caribineiri. It's all a scale.
Yes, it's also not necessarily the case that the Swedish approach is better for the economy.
Sweden also has a degree of freedom we don't. If you're 25 and, knowing your chances of dying of this (if you get it) are, at the absolute worst, about 0.25% (and probably a good deal less), and you fancy going out for a pint with your mates, you can.
I have a decent amount of assets, enough to last me a decade or so before I really start to sweat it.
I'd give them all up in a heartbeat to relive a single summer of my youth.
Life is precious, but perhaps not in the way the coronavirus pearl clutchers would have us believe.
No lockdown sweden also banned gatherings of over 500 people whilst British experts were saying it would have no effect and extended that to ban meetings of over 50 people at the end of march.
This is by far the bigger news. If this is true then.... most western nations have made an historic error based on weird Chinese behaviour and a health system break down in Lombardy
Reading this board is like watching someone’s bipolar play out. So is this the end of the world or a massive overreaction? Depends on the time of day.
Yes, it does.
We locked down too early. We also locked down too late, too much, too little, too long, too short, too up, too down. too blue. Also grey with mauve patches.
If you look long enough into the Abyss of Numbers, Piers Corbyn will look back at you....
I had never heard of Cushing, until a comment down thread.
"Cushing, Oklahoma, 70 miles northeast of Oklahoma City, is a sleepy town with a population just under 8,000. It’s also the intense focus of every major player in the American oil market right now.
North American crude oil is pouring into Cushing, where dozens of steel storage tanks fan out from the outskirts of town, tank farms that march on for miles and connect to every major oil patch in North America through an maze of pipelines. Cushing’s nickname is “The Pipeline Crossroads of the World.”
It’s one of the largest crude oil storage hubs on Earth, and in the U.S. arguably the most important. Delivery for West Texas Intermediate crude is taken here, priced for Nymex contracts and stored before it’s shipped to refineries."
Bit concerned inspector poriot of twitter, might be more inspectator gadget, as he is currently asking twitter who the head of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee is.
His timeline reads more like a mad conspiracy theorist pushing an agenda, as opposed to a data scientist. The “fake nurse” profile looks like a comedy spoof, and he’s not showing the output from what he claims is now a deleted account.
- a lot of money is being dropped into the economy; - there is some pent up demand waiting for lockdown to end; - supply disruption means some things are in short supply (cf. fruit and veg prices); - companies desperately need to recover their balance sheets (cf. 2021 cruise prices); - we may be at peak globalisation, and stuff made cheaply in China may need to be produced again in the west; - inflation is by far the least worst political resolution of the impending debt crisis.
I'm struggling with some of this:
- Apart from the money spent immediately fighting the virus, the furlough money is, I suppose, in lieu of direct welfare and will be withdrawn at some point down the line. - Agree about the demand but until people feel safe and confident, will that demand be fully released? - Are the shortages of labour or of distribution? My home delivered fruit and veg from New Covent Garden all seems fine and well priced. - Well, yes, but I'd have thought luring people back with discounts would be the first step. - I don't see how we can match China's prices and how much do we get from India or Bangladesh? Could help Africa I suppose.
I agree I'd rather work an hour for 30 inflated pounds than 5 deflated pounds but I'm still not convinced we will see a big spike in inflation.
You’re right that predicting inflation feels somewhat brave; in 2008 everyone expected QE to lead to inflation, whereas what actually happened was that asset prices inflated but the feared retail and wage rate inflation never materialised. Hence what was expected to hit savers actually rewarded those with assets with the losers being those without, primcipally the young.
This time however the printed money is dropping straight into the economy, on top of the money saved by consumers not spending on discretionary stuff. Whereas my meals out and drinks down the pub used to pay someone’s wages, now the government is paying those wages but I still have my meals out money in the bank.
Supply shortages will arise from a combination of disruption to production and to transport. Basic stuff like not having people able to pick fruit and veg.
We can’t match China’s prices. But in the new economy globalised free trade may, for the first time, start to wane.
Providing France and Spain permit entry and the FCO hasn't banned it we will drive to Spain in August as planned. Mrs RP needs to see her dad, the kids need to see their Abuelo. Yes of course it's holiday. But always the same town where the family live. As El Campello is a seaside town for Madrid natives and resident expats it won't be knackered by the forced closure of hotels as it only has a few.
Suspect that package holidays to the costas won't be a big thing this year...
No lockdown sweden also banned gatherings of over 500 people whilst British experts were saying it would have no effect and extended that to ban meetings of over 50 people at the end of march.
The big thing i really really didnt understand the UK government banning asap was concerts. 1000s of people all rammed together in a hot sweaty environment, bashing into one another for several hours on end.
I had tickets during that time and there was absolutely no way i was going to them.
This is by far the bigger news. If this is true then.... most western nations have made an historic error based on weird Chinese behaviour and a health system break down in Lombardy
Sweden has a much higher death rate than Norway and Germany and Taiwan and South Korea though, which shows it maybe mass testing that makes the difference more than lockdown
On spending for as long as I'm getting a full salary my plan is to spend as normally as possible - I'm conscious others depend on it.
This does not extend to South Western Railway.
So how does that read across to property buying. I put an offer in on a house in Manchester in November at the asking price. I'm buying from the builder and they have been very slow so we haven't exchanged yet. Should I be holding the price, or looking for a discount as cash is probably worth more to them now and prices will be falling soon if not already?
You should be backing out of the deal, unless you fancy being in negative equity soon.
We were already in a bubble, now we're in a depression. Plus, we've no idea what the new normal is yet. House prices down about 35% over the next couple of years, I reckon. Maybe I'm wrong, but the downside is much greater than the upside at the moment.
The Guardian is relentlessly pushing an angle, but most in Sweden are happy not to be in lockdown misery. (My theory is that the Guardian's target eyeballs are mopey people happy to be at home with their cats.)
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
medical guy on Newsnight saying he has never had a MD shift in 20 years that was so quiet.
People have lost faith in general medicine, hospital appointments etc etc.
Anecdote: the gate to the surgery by the fish and chip shop was blown shut, causing patients to think the practice was closed for the duration. Well, at least two patients until yours truly intervened.
ETA a friend would not go into a pharmacy because "that's where the Covid-19 patients go to collect their medicine".
This is by far the bigger news. If this is true then.... most western nations have made an historic error based on weird Chinese behaviour and a health system break down in Lombardy
Reading this board is like watching someone’s bipolar play out. So is this the end of the world or a massive overreaction? Depends on the time of day.
Yes, it does.
We locked down too early. We also locked down too late, too much, too little, too long, too short, too up, too down. too blue. Also grey with mauve patches.
If you look long enough into the Abyss of Numbers, Piers Corbyn will look back at you....
No lockdown sweden also banned gatherings of over 500 people whilst British experts were saying it would have no effect and extended that to ban meetings of over 50 people at the end of march.
The big thing i really really didnt understand the UK government banning asap was concerts. 1000s of people all rammed together in a hot sweaty environment, bashing into one another for several hours on end.
I had tickets during that time and there was absolutely no way i was going to them.
I went to one on the 21st February, and did a half marathon on the 8th March. About as late as seemed sensible for those types of events.
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I have been saying this for weeks
Yes, and I have agreed. In part it is fear from patients, but there are also infrastructure issues. With our main operating theatres now overflow ICU and our anaesthetic machines being used as ventilators, with the anaesthetists running the place and supervising proning teams of orthopedic juniors, it isn't really surprising that hip replacements are not being done, is it?
You cannot simultaneously use the Canberra as a Falklands hospital ship, and sell tickets for a South Atlantic Cruise to pensioners!
Sweden is not doing much better economically - but it is doing better socially, whereas the rest of us have hosed the low-income workers in hospitality while clever professionals get to WFH.
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
He should be kicked off the force for being terminally fucking stupid.
What sort of imbecile promises to lie, claiming that he will be believed, while being filmed?
Before we crucify the officer, I’d like to see the full context of the video. Just how provocative were those kids being?
I am well aware the police can be arseholes. I’ve seen it myself. But right now I’d err on the side of caution before condemning.
I just wish they’d stop these absurd virtue signaling videos of dancing and clapping.
However provocative they were being, there is no way a police officer can threaten to commit perjury as part of an incident. None. Nada. Zero. Zilch.
But doing it on camera - that’s utterly cretinous.
Ffs he’s a human. He didn’t punch or kick anyone. In America he would have shot someone and then got away with it.
His mouth was bigger than his brain. It’s not good. Demote him. Whatever. But a career should not end over a stupid statement, and we do need to see the bigger video if we can.
A school friend of mine got chucked out of the force for crashing a party while drunk. Mind you he did smash the front door off its hinges to do so.
He was a a bit Constable Savage so no one was too surprised.
Without being too virtuous - I hope - we are entering an epoch when we all need to be a bit more understanding of each other, and the perils of the human condition.
The absurd snitching and cancel culture of social media needs to end. People are going to say mad things from all ends of politics. We need to cut some slack for the Labour activist nurse who fibs about PPE just as we tolerate the cop who gets a bit mouthy in Cumbria.
We don’t have time for this shit. Let people say sorry and let them keep their jobs.
Before Twitter and other social media it felt as if the general level of bossiness and self-righteousness in society was always going down throughout the 80s, 90s and noughties. Twitter's big "achievement" has been to bring them back and it isn't a positive development IMO.
Bit concerned inspector poriot of twitter, might be more inspectator gadget, as he is currently asking twitter who the head of Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee is.
His timeline reads more like a mad conspiracy theorist pushing an agenda, as opposed to a data scientist. The “fake nurse” profile looks like a comedy spoof, and he’s not showing the output from what he claims is now a deleted account.
I expect Guido will be onto it eventually but if this is the government, heads should roll. Oh, hold on, what am I saying? This is CCHQ's GE2019 redux.
This is by far the bigger news. If this is true then.... most western nations have made an historic error based on weird Chinese behaviour and a health system break down in Lombardy
Reading this board is like watching someone’s bipolar play out. So is this the end of the world or a massive overreaction? Depends on the time of day.
Yes, it does.
We locked down too early. We also locked down too late, too much, too little, too long, too short, too up, too down. too blue. Also grey with mauve patches.
If you look long enough into the Abyss of Numbers, Piers Corbyn will look back at you....
As long as its not Piers Morgan.
The other Piers is worse for your sanity. Colour Out Of Space is a quiet, amusing tale by comparison....
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
"An insider close to Downing Street" is a hack in an Uber on Whitehall, filing what the press would love to hear but never will, because everyone in Govt. has stopped talking to them because they are behaving like twats...
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
Sure, you do get the odd idiot, but frankly they don't take much time. If the triage nurse gets those sort of conditions she will send the patient away, and if not the ECP will despatch them in a few minutes.
"An insider close to Downing Street" is a hack in an Uber on Whitehall, filing what the press would love to hear but never will, because everyone in Govt. has stopped talking to them because they are behaving like twats...
An Albanian cab driver told me that he 'ad that Keith Starmer in the back of the cab....
On a comic note, I am taking an elderly relative to a West London hospital tomorrow for a checkup. So I shall see what is actually happening in non-COVID medicine...
"An insider close to Downing Street" is a hack in an Uber on Whitehall, filing what the press would love to hear but never will, because everyone in Govt. has stopped talking to them because they are behaving like twats...
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
I agree. 111 should not be directing people with cough and fever to self isolste. They should be booked to a drive in swab centre. Too many late presentations, IMO.
"An insider close to Downing Street" is a hack in an Uber on Whitehall, filing what the press would love to hear but never will, because everyone in Govt. has stopped talking to them because they are behaving like twats...
Not the Chief SpAd then?
It could be - but given several stories (such as the Chancellor ruling out any economic help, hours before he rolled out...) - the above analysis could well be true.
In easier times, I would suggest having some fun with planting bullshit stories to test the hypothesis.
As the good professor says on the UnHerd video - come back to me in a year.
Stick to the German model, currently 56 deaths per million to 156 deaths per million in Sweden. Having mass testing, Germany now reopening small shops https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
Sure, you do get the odd idiot, but frankly they don't take much time. If the triage nurse gets those sort of conditions she will send the patient away, and if not the ECP will despatch them in a few minutes....
"An insider close to Downing Street" is a hack in an Uber on Whitehall, filing what the press would love to hear but never will, because everyone in Govt. has stopped talking to them because they are behaving like twats...
Not the Chief SpAd then?
It could be - but given several stories (such as the Chancellor ruling out any economic help, hours before he rolled out...) - the above analysis could well be true.
In easier times, I would suggest having some fun with planting bullshit stories to test the hypothesis.
Quite possibly. Look earlier in the thread for both sides accused of fake NHS propaganda.
A very long time lurker here, tempted out of cover by Mike's post above.
Very happy indeed to make a small contribution for the many years of reading pleasure, and (more often than not) genuine insight this site and comments have given me. I stumbled across PB and read avidly in the run up to the 2008 Presidential. It feels a lifetime ago, but most things do these days.
I suppose my way of saying that while I even feel a little guilty at not contributing to discussion here, that discussion is appreciated by more than you might expect, so, thank you.
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
I agree. 111 should not be directing people with cough and fever to self isolste. They should be booked to a drive in swab centre. Too many late presentations, IMO.
That’s one of the theories about Germany’s apparently low death rate. They actively seek to get Covid patients into hospital asap.
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
Sure, you do get the odd idiot, but frankly they don't take much time. If the triage nurse gets those sort of conditions she will send the patient away, and if not the ECP will despatch them in a few minutes....
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
Sure, you do get the odd idiot, but frankly they don't take much time. If the triage nurse gets those sort of conditions she will send the patient away, and if not the ECP will despatch them in a few minutes....
As the good professor says on the UnHerd video - come back to me in a year.
Stick to the German model, currently 56 deaths per million to 156 deaths per million in Sweden. Having mass testing, Germany now reopening small shops https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Difficult to stick to it, since we have yet to practice it. But I agree it is one to be followed.
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
Sure, you do get the odd idiot, but frankly they don't take much time. If the triage nurse gets those sort of conditions she will send the patient away, and if not the ECP will despatch them in a few minutes....
As the good professor says on the UnHerd video - come back to me in a year.
Stick to the German model, currently 56 deaths per million to 156 deaths per million in Sweden. Having mass testing, Germany now reopening small shops https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Possibly. But for whatever reasons, we can't do mass testing in this country as we don't have the kit/chemicals/swabs/gloves/whatever today's excuse is
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I posted a video of a A&E doctor who does vlogs and he said while not seeing the usual time wasters and those that should be going to GPs, always seeing people with things like chest pains who have waited days and only gone when they have gone downhill.
This is what drives me up the wall about doctors. How are patients expected to know if their symptoms are trivial or serious? If you ask patients to triage themselves, expect mistakes.
The examples he gave was people came straight from a flight complaining ear feeling funny and another who brought their kid saying their hair didn't seem to be growing very quickly.
Sure, you do get the odd idiot, but frankly they don't take much time. If the triage nurse gets those sort of conditions she will send the patient away, and if not the ECP will despatch them in a few minutes....
Bit drastic, surely ?
Harsh but fair...
Results oriented ?
Got to make that 4hr target!
Good to know that best practice is so deeply embedded.
Newsnight: two medical experts saying it's very concerning that people don't seem to be using GPs and hospitals for conditions other than coronavirus.
I should hope no one would be surprised at that reaction. People don't remember nuance, but they remember the very clear central messaging and that would definitely see that happen.
A very long time lurker here, tempted out of cover by Mike's post above.
Very happy indeed to make a small contribution for the many years of reading pleasure, and (more often than not) genuine insight this site and comments have given me. I stumbled across PB and read avidly in the run up to the 2008 Presidential. It feels a lifetime ago, but most things do these days.
I suppose my way of saying that while I even feel a little guilty at not contributing to discussion here, that discussion is appreciated by more than you might expect, so, thank you.
Good to hear from you, after all these years. Welcome to the front line.
Doesn't seem like scientists in places with stringent lockdowns are being convinced to change course as a result of Sweden. If the latter are right, most places are doubling down before they find that out.
This is one of my personal fears that I seem to know many who have convinced themselves they had the thing back in February or earlier. Wandering round with that degree of assuredness post-lockdown, without testing, is a real risk for the many family reunions we'll be seeing not long after.
Unfortunately, in the absence of testing, it's hard to persuade them otherwise.
As the good professor says on the UnHerd video - come back to me in a year.
Stick to the German model, currently 56 deaths per million to 156 deaths per million in Sweden. Having mass testing, Germany now reopening small shops https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Possibly. But for whatever reasons, we can't do mass testing in this country as we don't have the kit/chemicals/swabs/gloves/whatever today's excuse is
It has not escaped British eyes that Germany seems to be efficient at these things:
Interesting comment from Ofcom that Eamonn Holmes' remarks were 'ambiguous'. I'd contest that, his remarks were pretty clear in their meaning, he simply sought to make them more ambiguous afterwards.
Interesting comment from Ofcom that Eamonn Holmes' remarks were 'ambiguous'. I'd contest that, his remarks were pretty clear in their meaning, he simply sought to make them more ambiguous afterwards.
Ah, shucks, no 4th GE in 15 months after all - coalition deal in Israel. And this part makes it sound very good for Netanyahu's longer term prospects, subject to his legal woes.
Mr Gantz, our correspondent adds, has ditched half of the political alliance he built over three elections - it had fractured under the strain of Mr Netanyahu's manoeuvres, with the coronavirus emergency providing a backdrop of urgency.
Doesn't seem like scientists in places with stringent lockdowns are being convinced to change course as a result of Sweden. If the latter are right, most places are doubling down before they find that out.
Though it does look as if the Swedes are not quite so convinced either. The grass is always greener:
Interesting comment from Ofcom that Eamonn Holmes' remarks were 'ambiguous'. I'd contest that, his remarks were pretty clear in their meaning, he simply sought to make them more ambiguous afterwards.
Interesting comment from Ofcom that Eamonn Holmes' remarks were 'ambiguous'. I'd contest that, his remarks were pretty clear in their meaning, he simply sought to make them more ambiguous afterwards.
Just to be clear, don't fancy being sued by London Live owner, I was talking about the YouTube Channel that the interview was from. Why London Live was running that interview I don't know, do they usually show content from London Real? Because if they are, that is a very "interesting" decision.
London Real is a very very strange YouTube channel. It appears to have long form interviews with plenty of mainstream normal folk, then has an equal number of shall we say fringe individuals.
It doesn't sound that different to Germany. Small shops to open in a few weeks, but nothing big like sports, concerts, etc until the Autumn. And continued WFH for people throughout summer (I don't know what Germany's approach on this is).
Bit worrying that they say it is spreading quickly in hospitals. Care homes are very difficult, but hospitals appear on the surface to have planned, separated out CV from non-CV, etc.
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We seem to know very little about Covid.
Could he be liable for a charge of misconduct in a public office?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2019/nov/23/glyndebourne-opera-director-sacked-for-inappropriate-text&ved=2ahUKEwjm0qjG_vfoAhWSZxUIHdrXBuEQFjAHegQIBRAC&usg=AOvVaw3791JUx6vIAjIztxivPlne&cf=1
So no plane loads of JFK plague carriers arriving there for the last month.
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2019/nov/23/glyndebourne-opera-director-sacked-for-inappropriate-text
I have a decent amount of assets, enough to last me a decade or so before I really start to sweat it.
I'd give them all up in a heartbeat to relive a single summer of my youth.
Life is precious, but perhaps not in the way the coronavirus pearl clutchers would have us believe.
If you look long enough into the Abyss of Numbers, Piers Corbyn will look back at you....
People have lost faith in general medicine, hospital appointments etc etc.
This time however the printed money is dropping straight into the economy, on top of the money saved by consumers not spending on discretionary stuff. Whereas my meals out and drinks down the pub used to pay someone’s wages, now the government is paying those wages but I still have my meals out money in the bank.
Supply shortages will arise from a combination of disruption to production and to transport. Basic stuff like not having people able to pick fruit and veg.
We can’t match China’s prices. But in the new economy globalised free trade may, for the first time, start to wane.
Suspect that package holidays to the costas won't be a big thing this year...
https://twitter.com/alfonslopeztena/status/1251990234453114881?s=21
https://twitter.com/foxinsoxuk/status/1252355901765238784?s=09
I had tickets during that time and there was absolutely no way i was going to them.
We were already in a bubble, now we're in a depression. Plus, we've no idea what the new normal is yet. House prices down about 35% over the next couple of years, I reckon. Maybe I'm wrong, but the downside is much greater than the upside at the moment.
ETA a friend would not go into a pharmacy because "that's where the Covid-19 patients go to collect their medicine".
You cannot simultaneously use the Canberra as a Falklands hospital ship, and sell tickets for a South Atlantic Cruise to pensioners!
https://twitter.com/PopulismUpdates/status/1251967623304146944?s=19
Time and again.
Lockdown scientists seem to be driving things tonight.
This is NYC, but I suspect a similar story here:
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/massive-spike-in-nyc-cardiac-arrest-deaths-seen-as-sign-of-covid-19-undercounting/2368678/
In part it could be Covid-19 myocarditis, or it could be those who should have pitched up in ED with their chest pain, but didn't.
On a comic note, I am taking an elderly relative to a West London hospital tomorrow for a checkup. So I shall see what is actually happening in non-COVID medicine...
In easier times, I would suggest having some fun with planting bullshit stories to test the hypothesis.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Prof H reckons the peak occurred before lockdown and that hand washing and social distancing is the key factor.
Very happy indeed to make a small contribution for the many years of reading pleasure, and (more often than not) genuine insight this site and comments have given me. I stumbled across PB and read avidly in the run up to the 2008 Presidential. It feels a lifetime ago, but most things do these days.
I suppose my way of saying that while I even feel a little guilty at not contributing to discussion here, that discussion is appreciated by more than you might expect, so, thank you.
But I agree it is one to be followed.
Unfortunately, in the absence of testing, it's hard to persuade them otherwise.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-rolls-out-pilot-test-of-digital-currency-11587385339
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1252249517208018944?s=09
And there is that old polling favourite showing no change:
https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1252276937864679424?s=19
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-52358920
Mr Gantz, our correspondent adds, has ditched half of the political alliance he built over three elections - it had fractured under the strain of Mr Netanyahu's manoeuvres, with the coronavirus emergency providing a backdrop of urgency.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-52358479
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1252236927161364482?s=19
Domestic killings up by 250% in lockdown. Horrific statistic which pushes me a long way towards the Swedish approach.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/tvandradio/10785953/London-Live-broadcast-to-zero-viewers-on-eight-occasions.html
London Real is a very very strange YouTube channel. It appears to have long form interviews with plenty of mainstream normal folk, then has an equal number of shall we say fringe individuals.
https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1252344136968974338?s=20
https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1252361232415207433?s=20
Bit worrying that they say it is spreading quickly in hospitals. Care homes are very difficult, but hospitals appear on the surface to have planned, separated out CV from non-CV, etc.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1252309414037663745
https://twitter.com/TheRealRoseRose/status/1252327849802919937