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Given the circumstances we can overlook that I think. Someone has to be.Anabobazina said:
Is Hancock a Newcastle supporter?williamglenn said:0 -
Bloody queue jumper...williamglenn said:twitter.com/matthancock/status/1243522325397622784?s=21
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Does that include the US ... ?MaxPB said:
As I've said previously, I think until we either achieve herd immunity or get a vaccine developed we might have to close the border to the developing world.Nigelb said:
I doubt it.Luckyguy1983 said:
Air conditioning.Nigelb said:It appears to spread in the tropics, too.
https://twitter.com/JPSpinetto/status/1243216960537726988
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Luckily Hancock doesn't sound bad at all.1
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The remarkable thing about Boris’s test is not that he got one, but that he claims to have been tested yesterday evening and got the result at midnight. Clearly it can be done quickly if needs must.0
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13 field hospitals being built.
Oh and the one in London is opening with 500 and not 2000 beds0 -
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Tbh, yes.Nigelb said:
Does that include the US ... ?MaxPB said:
As I've said previously, I think until we either achieve herd immunity or get a vaccine developed we might have to close the border to the developing world.Nigelb said:
I doubt it.Luckyguy1983 said:
Air conditioning.Nigelb said:It appears to spread in the tropics, too.
https://twitter.com/JPSpinetto/status/1243216960537726988
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It has to be a high probability that one of Witty, Vallance et al. have it.0
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Hancock too now.....0
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I would think about signing up, but we know how shoddy the work from that 2nd rate institution is....Nigelb said:twitter.com/UniofOxford/status/1243508875225108480
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I am fairly certain that is what they said from the beginning. Open with 500, then expand to 2000 and if required could go up to a total capacity of 4000.bigjohnowls said:13 field hospitals being built.
Oh and the one in London is opening with 500 and not 2000 beds0 -
That was fast. Wonder whether this is phase 2 or 3.Nigelb said:0 -
I'm pretty sure something will emerge from the dank fens sooner or later.FrancisUrquhart said:
I would think about signing up, but we know how shoddy the work from that 2nd rate institution is....Nigelb said:twitter.com/UniofOxford/status/1243508875225108480
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BBC just shown a clip of him on Wednesday walking right next to someone and wiping his runny nose on the back of his hand.Floater said:Hancock too now.....
Lets hope he hasnt spread it to many.0 -
If Oxford beat Cambridge to this, they will never let it lie will they.Nigelb said:
I'm pretty sure something will emerge from the dank fens sooner or later.FrancisUrquhart said:
I would think about signing up, but we know how shoddy the work from that 2nd rate institution is....Nigelb said:twitter.com/UniofOxford/status/1243508875225108480
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Modularity - sounds like a 500 bet unit is the module size. Build the first one to get the process sorted and then you can parallelise efforts on the next three modules etc...FrancisUrquhart said:
I am fairly certain that is what they said from the beginning. Open with 500, then expand to 2000 and if required could go up to a total capacity of 4000.bigjohnowls said:13 field hospitals being built.
Oh and the one in London is opening with 500 and not 2000 beds
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Good for his reputation assuming he shrugs it off. He will be like the Defence Secretary who has seen action.Mysticrose said:Jeez Matt Hancock too.
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We duck and cover :-)HYUFD said:
If the call comes...kle4 said:
Hyufd for me. Persistent, consistent and supremely confident, qualities I do not have enough of even if it's possible to have too muchfelix said:I wonder which PB posters we'd choose as dopplegangers - to take over should we be virus incapacitated.....
For me t'wouls have to be the one of many SeanTs
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oh bloody hell......bigjohnowls said:
BBC just shown a clip of him on Wednesday walking right next to someone and wiping his runny nose on the back of his hand.Floater said:Hancock too now.....
Lets hope he hasnt spread it to many.0 -
Silly. People still have flu in the tropics too, but that doesn't mean its transmissibility doesn't vary with the season. Particularly in the absence of immunity, no one ever suggested the coronavirus would be incapable of spreading in warm weather. Only that it might spread more slowly.Nigelb said:It appears to spread in the tropics, too.
https://twitter.com/JPSpinetto/status/12432169605377269880 -
Looks like the Westminster cliche are testing this herd immunity strategy.0
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First i have heard that we are having 13 field hospitals Had i missed that or is it new?Malmesbury said:
Modularity - sounds like a 500 bet unit is the module size. Build the first one to get the process sorted and then you can parallelise efforts on the next three modules etc...FrancisUrquhart said:
I am fairly certain that is what they said from the beginning. Open with 500, then expand to 2000 and if required could go up to a total capacity of 4000.bigjohnowls said:13 field hospitals being built.
Oh and the one in London is opening with 500 and not 2000 beds0 -
I think I had Prince Charles so I must be in with a shot at least.matthiasfromhamburg said:
I hope it's not too soon to ask this question, but it's a betting site, after all, so, who has the inside track in the 2020 @Dura_Ace sweepstakes?Dura_Ace said:This is going to be like the last days of Chernenko. We'll be counting the days between his appearances and trying to work out how much makeup he's wearing.
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I can't remember the total planned - but you are right it was going to open with some capacity and then expandFrancisUrquhart said:
I am fairly certain that is what they said from the beginning. Open with 500, then expand to 2000 and if required could go up to a total capacity of 4000.bigjohnowls said:13 field hospitals being built.
Oh and the one in London is opening with 500 and not 2000 beds0 -
Do you mean the Westminster clique?FrancisUrquhart said:Looks like the Westminster cliche are testing this herd immunity strategy.
If so, that is a truly awesome typo.0 -
They have briefed over the past few days 3 other sites, NEC, G-Mex and a place in Scotland, and that they were looking for more.bigjohnowls said:
First i have heard that we are having 13 field hospitals Had i missed that or is it new?Malmesbury said:
Modularity - sounds like a 500 bet unit is the module size. Build the first one to get the process sorted and then you can parallelise efforts on the next three modules etc...FrancisUrquhart said:
I am fairly certain that is what they said from the beginning. Open with 500, then expand to 2000 and if required could go up to a total capacity of 4000.bigjohnowls said:13 field hospitals being built.
Oh and the one in London is opening with 500 and not 2000 beds
Matt Hancock does appear to be working around the clock on so many different things. Hopefully he isn't too knackered to fight CV off.0 -
Well, we want leaders who lead.....FrancisUrquhart said:Looks like the Westminster cliche are testing this herd immunity strategy.
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It's a marathon, not a sprint.FrancisUrquhart said:
If Oxford beat Cambridge to this, they will never let it lie will they.Nigelb said:
I'm pretty sure something will emerge from the dank fens sooner or later.FrancisUrquhart said:
I would think about signing up, but we know how shoddy the work from that 2nd rate institution is....Nigelb said:twitter.com/UniofOxford/status/1243508875225108480
The Cambridge effort (or one of them) mentioned here is probably somewhere around the same stage:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/27/inside-the-race-to-develop-a-coronavirus-vaccine-covid-19
The real point is to be able to demonstrate safety (and some signs of activity) now, and to be able then to get it out into trials at scale before the next surge happens.
Recruiting many subjects who you know have not already been infected is going to be difficult/impossible until the large scale antibody test is available.0 -
It was a typo, rather than a brilliant attempt at something.ydoethur said:
Do you mean the Westminster clique?FrancisUrquhart said:Looks like the Westminster cliche are testing this herd immunity strategy.
If so, that is a truly awesome typo.0 -
@Paristonda (Johnson) or @pulpstar (Weinstein) I would say.matthiasfromhamburg said:
I hope it's not too soon to ask this question, but it's a betting site, after all, so, who has the inside track in the 2020 @Dura_Ace sweepstakes?Dura_Ace said:This is going to be like the last days of Chernenko. We'll be counting the days between his appearances and trying to work out how much makeup he's wearing.
Fat as fuck fanny rats leading the pack at the moment.0 -
Some very odd comments below Corbyn's and Watson's tweets on Boris having CV19. I hope they are from bots, but if not there are some quite warped twitter users.0
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Bloody hell.....
A short while ago, Associated Press filed this troubling report from Tehran, the Iranian capital where people are drinking toxic methanol in the mistaken belief it will combat the coronavirus.
Standing over the still body of an intubated 5-year-old boy wearing nothing but a plastic diaper, an Iranian health care worker in a hazmat suit and mask begged the public for just one thing: Stop drinking industrial alcohol over fears about the new coronavirus.
The boy, now blind after his parents gave him toxic methanol in the mistaken belief it protects against the virus, is just one of hundreds of victims of an epidemic inside the pandemic now gripping Iran.
Iranian media reports nearly 300 people have been killed and more than 1,000 sickened so far by ingesting methanol across the Islamic Republic, where drinking alcohol is banned and where those who do rely on bootleggers. It comes as fake remedies spread across social media in Iran, where people remain deeply suspicious of the government after it downplayed the crisis for days before it overwhelmed the country.
“The virus is spreading and people are just dying off, and I think they are even less aware of the fact that there are other dangers around,” said Dr. Knut Erik Hovda, a clinical toxicologist in Oslo who studies methanol poisoning and fears Iran’s outbreak could be even worse than reported. “When they keep drinking this, there’s going to be more people poisoned.”0 -
Considering Weinstein argued he was too sick to stand trial and supposedly had so many comorbidities he seems to be taking this in his stride.Dura_Ace said:
@Paristonda (Johnson) or @pulpstar (Weinstein) I would say.matthiasfromhamburg said:
I hope it's not too soon to ask this question, but it's a betting site, after all, so, who has the inside track in the 2020 @Dura_Ace sweepstakes?Dura_Ace said:This is going to be like the last days of Chernenko. We'll be counting the days between his appearances and trying to work out how much makeup he's wearing.
Fat as fuck fanny rats leading the pack at the moment.0 -
At this rate there isn't going to be of Iran left.Floater said:Bloody hell.....
A short while ago, Associated Press filed this troubling report from Tehran, the Iranian capital where people are drinking toxic methanol in the mistaken belief it will combat the coronavirus.
Standing over the still body of an intubated 5-year-old boy wearing nothing but a plastic diaper, an Iranian health care worker in a hazmat suit and mask begged the public for just one thing: Stop drinking industrial alcohol over fears about the new coronavirus.
The boy, now blind after his parents gave him toxic methanol in the mistaken belief it protects against the virus, is just one of hundreds of victims of an epidemic inside the pandemic now gripping Iran.
Iranian media reports nearly 300 people have been killed and more than 1,000 sickened so far by ingesting methanol across the Islamic Republic, where drinking alcohol is banned and where those who do rely on bootleggers. It comes as fake remedies spread across social media in Iran, where people remain deeply suspicious of the government after it downplayed the crisis for days before it overwhelmed the country.
“The virus is spreading and people are just dying off, and I think they are even less aware of the fact that there are other dangers around,” said Dr. Knut Erik Hovda, a clinical toxicologist in Oslo who studies methanol poisoning and fears Iran’s outbreak could be even worse than reported. “When they keep drinking this, there’s going to be more people poisoned.”0 -
In other sobering news
Talks have been held about setting up a temporary mortuary at Birmingham Airport with space for up to 12,000 bodies in a worst-case scenario amid the coronavirus outbreak.
The airport is next to Birmingham's National Exhibition Centre, which has already been mooted as a possible location for a temporary field hospital.
It is understood that any airport facility could initially have space for 2,500 bodies, increasing to up to 12,000, if needed.0 -
Hancocks been standing too close to people for ages
https://twitter.com/FormulaWin/status/12046978960646184960 -
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https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/1243509541683302401?s=20
Inappropriate, but funny. Get well soon Bozza.3 -
Hence why each new account has so easily been uncovered.Luckyguy1983 said:
It is very hard to maintain two (or how many are we up to now?) personas with different views, let alone different writing styles (which Sean doesn't - they all have his typical rhetorical flourishes, ticks, and vocab). Hence Mysticrose's late conversion to Borisism I suppose.TGOHF666 said:
I would hope that if Sean created his own Titania McGrath type spoof then they would be 90% obnoxiously woke - not 80% like Mysticrose.eadric said:
YOU believe this as well??TOPPING said:
The only person you seem to be tormenting is yourself.eadric said:
No. I shall now interact with mysticrose much more, so as to torment youLuckyguy1983 said:
Desist.eadric said:
Is there some PB delusion that I am mysticrose???Luckyguy1983 said:
Stop.eadric said:
Mysticrose is right.
That’s genuinely hilarious. You guys are bonkers.
Lol!
Also Mystic posts early in the morning which rules Sean out.
We are not supposed to talk about this, so I will stop, and frankly I'm not bothered - we all post with varying degrees of anonymity here, there's no reason Sean should not have the same entitlement. Between him posting with MPD and not posting at all I would still prefer the former.
Our bigjohn and BigG are putting our C-list authors to shame on how to master differential characterisation.0 -
Well, it made me chuckle...does that make me an arsehole?Jonathan said:twitter.com/tompeck/status/1243509541683302401?s=20
Inappropriate, but funny. Get well soon Bozza.0 -
Nothing so hateful as the souls of people who declaim that they are the truly compassionate ones.dr_spyn said:Some very odd comments below Corbyn's and Watson's tweets on Boris having CV19. I hope they are from bots, but if not there are some quite warped twitter users.
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Joe Biden has already blown it
https://unherd.com/2020/03/the-democrats-have-blown-it/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=30 -
One bright note for the US Economy
Mexico has not only agreed to pay for the Wall but help build the f***ker quick2 -
Dom is starting to look like E. Gadd from Luigi's Mansion.Scott_xP said:0 -
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Workers can carry over annual leave:
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/rules-on-carrying-over-annual-leave-to-be-relaxed-to-support-key-industries-during-covid-191 -
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So had Bill Clinton, but that didn't stop him.IanB2 said:Joe Biden has already blown it
https://unherd.com/2020/03/the-democrats-have-blown-it/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=30 -
Or they close their borders to us.MaxPB said:
As I've said previously, I think until we either achieve herd immunity or get a vaccine developed we might have to close the border to the developing world.Nigelb said:
I doubt it.Luckyguy1983 said:
Air conditioning.Nigelb said:It appears to spread in the tropics, too.
https://twitter.com/JPSpinetto/status/1243216960537726988
https://twitter.com/cap1024/status/12435146196180459590 -
NEW THREAD
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In terms of cases per capita, every one of the top 20 countries is in Europe, except Montserrat (if you count that as a country). The common factor is frequent connections to Italy, and no doubt lots of testing compared to many other countries. It would be nice if it doesn't spread as easily in the warm weather, but I don't think there is the evidence for that yet.Nigelb said:
There are other factors, of course.HYUFD said:
At the moment not 1 of the top 10 countries with Covid 19 is in Africa or Latin America, that may change but for now it is most prominent in colder countries just coming out of winterNigelb said:
I doubt it.Luckyguy1983 said:
Air conditioning.Nigelb said:It appears to spread in the tropics, too.
https://twitter.com/JPSpinetto/status/1243216960537726988
https://twitter.com/cap1024/status/1243514619618045959
Availability of testing; amount of international air travel etc.
Most scientists looking at this say you can't draw any significant conclusions about climate for now.
New Orleans has 1000 cases and is quite warm: 24-29 degrees C today.0 -
The Democrats seem to have given up completely on 2020, and hoping that someone will emerge for 2024.IanB2 said:Joe Biden has already blown it
https://unherd.com/2020/03/the-democrats-have-blown-it/?tl_inbound=1&tl_groups[0]=18743&tl_period_type=3
The old Dem Nom Betfair market, that I'd not been looking at for a while, has gone completely mad now, with ten layable candidates. (four of whom can be laid below 40, and seven below 500). Andrew Cuomo is the man on the move, he's now 32-36.
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/politics/event/28009878/multi-market?marketIds=1.1281611110 -
According to my friends in lockdown in Varese in Northern Italy it is bloody cold and snowing there at the momentkamski said:
In terms of cases per capita, every one of the top 20 countries is in Europe, except Montserrat (if you count that as a country). The common factor is frequent connections to Italy, and no doubt lots of testing compared to many other countries. It would be nice if it doesn't spread as easily in the warm weather, but I don't think there is the evidence for that yet.Nigelb said:
There are other factors, of course.HYUFD said:
At the moment not 1 of the top 10 countries with Covid 19 is in Africa or Latin America, that may change but for now it is most prominent in colder countries just coming out of winterNigelb said:
I doubt it.Luckyguy1983 said:
Air conditioning.Nigelb said:It appears to spread in the tropics, too.
https://twitter.com/JPSpinetto/status/1243216960537726988
https://twitter.com/cap1024/status/1243514619618045959
Availability of testing; amount of international air travel etc.
Most scientists looking at this say you can't draw any significant conclusions about climate for now.
New Orleans has 1000 cases and is quite warm: 24-29 degrees C today.
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her mother in law passed away yesterday. i suspect its grief speakingGabs3 said:How is a parliamentary candidate this gornlessly stupid?
https://twitter.com/abcpoppins/status/12435062330275430421 -
Didn't the Black Death cause a massive jump in labourer wages and precipitate the end of feudalism?Andy_JS said:Interesting article IMO:
"Coronavirus will change nothing
The Black Death shows that after a pandemic, life goes on as before
By Ben Gummer"
https://unherd.com/2020/03/coronavirus-will-change-nothing
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Whelp that sounds like the more than Cold not quite Flu I had in mid-Feb which finished after a couple of days of lungs full of crud when the fever suddenly went. I coughed up crud for a week afterward. Interestingly I had a couple of incidences of diarrhea which a couple of sites list as an uncommon symptom which I couldn't pin to either food, IBS or medication side effect.GIN1138 said:
From what I've heard generally most cases start off quite "mild".
The first day or so all you have is a dry cough and possibly a sore throat. Around days 2-3 the fever kicks in with general "flu-like symptoms - aches, chills etc.
Around day 5 onwards is when it gets to the lungs and things can rapidly deteriorate from there... Most who need mechanical intervention do so from around day 8)
Particularly concerning as I tick 3 of the high-risk boxes and came down with it the week following visits to both my dentist & the health center to have my annual bloods taken.
I do wonder how much of the country has actually had it already.
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If only the Democrats had not shot their bolt seeking impeachment because Trump was trying to find out if their candidate was corrupt or just terminally stupid.williamglenn said:Trump gave this interview overnight.
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One of our best friends has been in bed for 5 days with diarrhea - no other symptoms as far as I know. Who knows - maybe that was a mild Covid-19?megalomaniacs4u said:
Whelp that sounds like the more than Cold not quite Flu I had in mid-Feb which finished after a couple of days of lungs full of crud when the fever suddenly went. I coughed up crud for a week afterward. Interestingly I had a couple of incidences of diarrhea which a couple of sites list as an uncommon symptom which I couldn't pin to either food, IBS or medication side effect.GIN1138 said:
From what I've heard generally most cases start off quite "mild".
The first day or so all you have is a dry cough and possibly a sore throat. Around days 2-3 the fever kicks in with general "flu-like symptoms - aches, chills etc.
Around day 5 onwards is when it gets to the lungs and things can rapidly deteriorate from there... Most who need mechanical intervention do so from around day 8)
Particularly concerning as I tick 3 of the high-risk boxes and came down with it the week following visits to both my dentist & the health center to have my annual bloods taken.
I do wonder how much of the country has actually had it already.0
