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Stark_Dawning said:

Scott_xP said:

Where is Priti...

https://twitter.com/BenKentish/status/1242112493532655618

I think Priti's 'points-based system' will be stone dead after this - when it's revealed how many wouldn't have been on the frontline had it been in place now.

I'm sure the low skilled Food and Retail workers will welcome more wage suppressing Immigration.

No_Offence_Alan said:

bigjohnowls said:

DWP site 10 mins ago

You will need to:

designate affected employees as ‘furloughed workers,’ and notify your employees of this change - changing the status of employees remains subject to existing employment law and, depending on the employment contract, may be subject to negotiation
submit information to HMRC about the employees that have been furloughed and their earnings through a new online portal (HMRC will set out further details on the information required)
HMRC will reimburse 80% of furloughed workers wage costs, up to a cap of £2,500 per month. HMRC are working urgently to set up a system for reimbursement. Existing systems are not set up to facilitate payments to employers.

Is there a betting market for "word of the year 2020"? I am plumping for "furlough".

I'll go for "coronavirus".

RobD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1242149118807588864

Looks as if they anticipate a worldwide grounding of flights

That's mostly happened already.

You do wonder just how long US planes will be allowed to fly out of the US on international routes

Big_G_NorthWales said:

RobD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1242149118807588864

Looks as if they anticipate a worldwide grounding of flights

That's mostly happened already.

You do wonder just how long US planes will be allowed to fly out of the US on international routes

Within is now the bigger problem IMO

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1242149118807588864

Looks as if they anticipate a worldwide grounding of flights

Germany will unexpectedly hit its 2020 emission targets and BoJo might yet deliver net immigration in the tens of thousands!!

FrancisUrquhart said:

1000 new cases over last 24hrs on ~6000 tests....Time for Boris to pull that big emergency break lever.

While I am wholly aware of the gravity of the situation we are in and would not wish to downplay it...this take is so hot you could build an igloo on the Sun by comparison

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Which season do you think they should cancel?

The right thing is to do nothing until it becomes clear when football might resume.

LOL

https://twitter.com/Edwina_Currie/status/1242146490941923340

IanB2 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

RobD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

https://twitter.com/nickeardleybbc/status/1242149118807588864

Looks as if they anticipate a worldwide grounding of flights

That's mostly happened already.

You do wonder just how long US planes will be allowed to fly out of the US on international routes

Within is now the bigger problem IMO

It is both really. The US looks as if it is becoming a nightmare

https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1242120694034575362?s=20

So which journalist is going to stand up and say Mr Prime Minster, don't you think your measures are going too far, they are borderline authoritarian and racist...they discriminate against the poor and the disabled.

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1242130716793671681?s=20
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1242137669615919110?s=20

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Far different types of event, particularly behind closed doors. Not to say it won't be entirely called off, but one major event being off doesn't automatically rule out carefully controlled other events.

No_Offence_Alan said:

DougSeal said:

Does this verdict change much? People make their own minds up as to guilt or innocence and a verdict won’t change their minds. See OJ Simpson where the reaction to the verdict was split on racial lines. In this case I would imagine that reaction will be similarly polarised according to your own view of the individual.

The presence of the "not proven" verdict option in Scotland ought to give more weight to a "not guilty" verdict. In other jurisdictions, "not proven" and "not guilty" get lumped together under "not guilty".

It is NOT GUILTY and sticks in unionists craws

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

It is relatively straightforward to play out the remainder of the season behind closed doors on short if the situation improves. The logistical nightmare of cancelling the Olympics late in the day is of a degree of magnitude more serious.

Word(s) of the year should definitely be Toilettenpapierrolle Hamsterkauf !!!

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1242130716793671681?s=20
https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1242137669615919110?s=20

Seems like the time is right, now that the country is begging for it.

tlg86 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Which season do you think they should cancel?

The right thing is to do nothing until it becomes clear when football might resume.

The current season in all competitions thereby providing space for next season

And give Liverpool the de facto title

NerysHughes said:

Foxy said:

NerysHughes said:

BannedinnParis said:

Floater said:

Boris Johnson will address the nation this evening and announce a new, stricter lockdown policy for the UK, the Telegraph understands.

Mr Johnson will chair a meeting of the Government's emergency Cobra committee at 5pm today, then update the country on the latest social distancing measures Downing Street will impose.

The address, which is expected at around 7pm this evening, will likely include the closure of all shops except supermarkets, food stores and pharmacies.

The new measures come as the NHS announced 46 more people have died from Covid-19 in England in the last 24 hours, bringing the total number of UK deaths to 335

281 (Sunday's total) + 54 = 335

So 54 = 46 (Eng.) + 8 (other parts of UK)

would be my interpretation of that.

Its key to remember again that is deaths with Covid 19, not necessarily because of Covid 19

I would be cautious. Until we get testing up to speed and enough reagents to test more patients, we may be significantly under measuring too.

I will just post this graph again from the ONS

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/birthsdeathsandmarriages/deaths/articles/highestnumberofexcesswinterdeathssince19992000/2015-11-25

2014/15 Excess Winter deaths due to flu were 44000, thats between 400-500 extra deaths each day. It didn't even make the news.

Did 19 Doctors in one developed country die from flu in 2014/15? In one month?
That is one reason why this disease is so much worse than flu.

HYUFD said:

https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/1242120694034575362?s=20

Of course, he would have said that after a guilty verdict, too.

CarlottaVance said:

In private, much of the Scottish political and media class already had him hanged, drawn and quartered and so this verdict is being met with a mixture of shock, horror and contempt. But the law is the law and the law says he didn’t do it. The consequences of this are far-reaching. Salmond is not a man who parts with grudges readily. The reckoning that is about to hit will make the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs look like a pebble dropped in a puddle.....

Whatever his opponents inside and outside the SNP may think of him, he has a compelling story to tell. He has cleared his name of serious charges. His assertion that he was a victim of a political conspiracy now appears to carry the imprimatur of a High Court jury. Alex Salmond is back from the dead and he will have his revenge.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/get-ready-for-the-salmond-reckoning

Will be a good few ruing the day right enough.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

tlg86 said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Which season do you think they should cancel?

The right thing is to do nothing until it becomes clear when football might resume.

The current season in all competitions thereby providing space for next season

And give Liverpool the de facto title

I think that is a really bad idea. Imagine we did that, and next season starts in August. And then in November the virus numbers start going back up. What happens then? We lose another season.

The sensible thing to do is to sit tight until we know when football can come back. Personally I would finish this season and run a truncated 2020-21 season. That leaves plenty of room for further interruptions.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

Jesus, this report on the BBC Six O'Clock from Madrid is shocking.

So is the Salmond acquittal good or bad news for Sturgeon?

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

"Boris has said..." Well that's alright then, bound to be over by June!

Luckyguy1983 said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/GrayInGlasgow/status/1242143912652922881?s=20

Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.

The SNP has a policy of not accepting peerages.

Paristonda said:

So is the Salmond acquittal good or bad news for Sturgeon?

To be honest it won't matter, she like a lot of politicians, will only be judged on her response to Covid-19.

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it

Luckyguy1983 said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/GrayInGlasgow/status/1242143912652922881?s=20

Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.

Nicola has been excellent in this crisis

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.

They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.

So, I've run my ruler over the Italy numbers, and there's one big bit of good news, one bit of OK news, and one bit of bad news.

Firstly, the good news is that the number of new cases, at 3,780, is the lowest since last Tuesday. In Lombardy, yesterday's good number was beaten, with 1,555 cases (down from 1,691). In Veneto, the drop was even bigger to 383 from 505.

The OK news is that this in the context of a test positive percentage of 22%, the same as yesterday, and well down on the 33% reached six days ago.

The bad news is that there is almost certainly a weekend effect in there. The number of tests, which had been running in the mid-20,000s range dropped to 17,000. This means that a lot of the drop off is probably due to fewer tests. (However, it is still worth remembering that the last time there were 17,000 tests - last Weds - they got more than 5,000 positive results. So, there is still clearly an improvement.)

Basically, one would expect to see the number of tests rise again tomorrow towards the mid 20,000s. This will almost certainly result in a higher number of positive results - I wouldn't be surprised to see it come out in the 4-4,500 range. However, this will likely be in the context of a positive rate that drops below 20% for the first time in weeks.

nichomar said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

You are behind the curve on this I’m not sure what boris has to do with it

No big events have yet been postponed beyond June and that applies globally as well as the UK

RobD said:

Luckyguy1983 said:

CarlottaVance said:

https://twitter.com/GrayInGlasgow/status/1242143912652922881?s=20

Nicola is coming over very well in this crisis. Not sure if she would want it, but a peerage at the end of this wouldn't be entirely unwarranted. She clearly wants an escape route.

SNP types don't take peerages, and I doubt she would be the first to break that tradition.

You never know. With our departure from the EU, that source of second career has been closed off (heart of stone etc.). Salmond's acquittal is a stay of execution, but probably only temporary.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

Get real.

Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada

If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer

We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provided the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible from then, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter

Big_G_NorthWales said:

RobD said:

malcolmg said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

DougSeal said:

Does this verdict change much? People make their own minds up as to guilt or innocence and a verdict won’t change their minds. See OJ Simpson where the reaction to the verdict was split on racial lines. In this case I would imagine that reaction will be similarly polarised according to your own view of the individual.

The presence of the "not proven" verdict option in Scotland ought to give more weight to a "not guilty" verdict. In other jurisdictions, "not proven" and "not guilty" get lumped together under "not guilty".

It is NOT GUILTY and sticks in unionists craws

But there was one where it was not proven, wasn't there?

Malc. This is an internal civil war in the SNP

This unionist is confident that with covid 19 and the SNP tearing itself apart independence is disappearing over the horizon

I would not put money on that G, delayed but will be top of the agenda as soon as the Virus is beaten.

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.

They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.

Perhaps we could replace it with a real life Battle Royale remake. Send the idiots that were seen in Tenerife causing trouble, along with dickheads from all the other nations. You get caught breaking the lockdown rules, you are going to be new Olympics...

RobD said:

malcolmg said:

No_Offence_Alan said:

DougSeal said:

Does this verdict change much? People make their own minds up as to guilt or innocence and a verdict won’t change their minds. See OJ Simpson where the reaction to the verdict was split on racial lines. In this case I would imagine that reaction will be similarly polarised according to your own view of the individual.

The presence of the "not proven" verdict option in Scotland ought to give more weight to a "not guilty" verdict. In other jurisdictions, "not proven" and "not guilty" get lumped together under "not guilty".

It is NOT GUILTY and sticks in unionists craws

But there was one where it was not proven, wasn't there?

In Scotland that is exactly the same as Innocent.

Sandpit said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.

They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.

A lot of sports have also had their national and international qualifying tournaments cancelled, so who should even turn up in the first place?

Quite.

Perhaps the athletes should have a vote on who should represent Team GB at the Olympics.

Perhaps conduct it under AV, the fairest voting system in the world.

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.

They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.

For a smaller scale Olympics they can, everyone will be in the same boat anyway

RobD said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

Get real.

Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada

If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer

We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter

Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.

Not sure that's the case.

There's a fundamental difference between halving the area under a curve vs picking the maximum point and splitting it that way.

RobD said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

Get real.

Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada

If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer

We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter

Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.

There will be further peaks to come but we cannot realistically see the whole world go into solitary confinement for up to 2 years or longer if a vaccine is not found, certainly beyond the peak periods of Covid 19.

If the death rate was 95% maybe but it is 5%

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.

They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.

For a smaller scale Olympics they can, everyone will be in the same boat anyway

No they won't.

Different countries have different rates of infection and are further/lower down the curve.

Plus a lot of Team GB athletes go overseas for warm weather/altitude training, something they cannot do, and gives an advantage to countries with warmer weather/higher altitudes.

BannedinnParis said:

RobD said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

Get real.

Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada

If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer

We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter

Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.

Not sure that's the case.

There's a fundamental difference between halving the area under a curve vs picking the maximum point and splitting it that way.

Most of the projections looks roughly symmetric. So if you are near the peak you are probably quite close to 50% of the total area.

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.

They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.

For a smaller scale Olympics they can, everyone will be in the same boat anyway

Maybe they can do a mini-olympics in their own homes. Press-ups, star jumps, burpees that sort of thing?

HYUFD said:

TheScreamingEagles said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

But the athletes have a training schedule between now and July that they cannot adhere to.

They can't turn up to the Olympics with just a month's training.

For a smaller scale Olympics they can, everyone will be in the same boat anyway

That’s not going to be much of a race, is it?

FrancisUrquhart said:

A number of French fashion houses have announced they will be producing coronavirus masks

Design houses Yves Saint Laurent and Balenciaga will shift their attentions from high fashion to producing surgical face masks to aid the global coronavirus assault, their parent company Kering said.

Ooh.

RobD said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

HYUFD said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Olympics off does raise the question why football is messing around and not cancelling the season

Indeed it may be late autumn before any football can be played if even then

Olympics is not yet confirmed to be off, Boris has said he wants the peak over by the end of June, the Olympics does not begin until the end of July

Get real.

Boris saying he wants peak in three months does not make it happen and countries are already withdrawing from the olympics including Canada

If you think we will be back to normal by mid summer you are a fiction writer

We cannot cancel everything for the rest of the year, provide the peak is over by June normal service should resume as much as possible, certainly until the next likely peak next Winter

Remember, at the peak of the outbreak only half of those that will eventually be infected have got it.

That rather assumes the curve will look like a normal distribution.

RobD said:

Also, based on that poll 90% of people are following government advice in one way or another.

Of course they are.

The only ones I've seen out and about who haven't been are young men. Anyone over about 45 years old takes it very seriously.