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Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.0 -
He didn’t run because his kid died.Philip_Thompson said:
Lets not overblow it. Even five years ago Biden was awful, that's why he didn't run when he had the incumbency of being Veep.BluestBlue said:
Joe Biden as President = Patrick Stewart playing Picard.Mysticrose said:
Okay that was rather goodPhilip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
An awesome idea - five years ago...
And Obama talked him out of it (reportedly)0 -
What happens if all 4 on the ticket go down ?rcs1000 said:
Surely - given Covid-19 - the real question is whether the Presidential election is Sanders' VP vs Pence or Biden's VP vs Pence.Barnesian said:Using the average of latest swing state polls I estimate that Biden beats Trump 293 EV to 245.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mMD5cZIBf7k8YoZcEjxMhmUm489cCPa0u9jgjULa1f0/edit?usp=sharing
On the other hand, Trump beats Sanders 282 EV to 256.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iGvzqbNJxTpJ6A_I6mdOrc7uirdbKSqANnFb7dEN23Y/edit?usp=sharing
If Sanders is nominee, Trump is a bet.
If Biden is nominee, Trump is a lay.0 -
Sympathies for the kid but that's not all there is.Nigelb said:
He didn’t run because his kid died.Philip_Thompson said:
Lets not overblow it. Even five years ago Biden was awful, that's why he didn't run when he had the incumbency of being Veep.BluestBlue said:
Joe Biden as President = Patrick Stewart playing Picard.Mysticrose said:
Okay that was rather goodPhilip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
An awesome idea - five years ago...
And Obama talked him out of it (reportedly)
I wonder why Obama talked him out of it?
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Just fine.Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
He’ll spout nonsense back at Trump’s nonsense.
Difference is that Biden will have moments of lucidity. And a VP who doesn’t give you the creeps.0 -
Good to see you back Scott.Scott_xP said:
Regarding the tweet, the DJ is unsurprisingly over-reacting upwards... the fundemantal negative impact of coronavirus on the global economy is not going to go away imo.0 -
The Republic falls and HMQ takes her rightful role as ruler of the colonies.another_richard said:
What happens if all 4 on the ticket go down ?rcs1000 said:
Surely - given Covid-19 - the real question is whether the Presidential election is Sanders' VP vs Pence or Biden's VP vs Pence.Barnesian said:Using the average of latest swing state polls I estimate that Biden beats Trump 293 EV to 245.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mMD5cZIBf7k8YoZcEjxMhmUm489cCPa0u9jgjULa1f0/edit?usp=sharing
On the other hand, Trump beats Sanders 282 EV to 256.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iGvzqbNJxTpJ6A_I6mdOrc7uirdbKSqANnFb7dEN23Y/edit?usp=sharing
If Sanders is nominee, Trump is a bet.
If Biden is nominee, Trump is a lay.3 -
President Pelosi.another_richard said:
What happens if all 4 on the ticket go down ?rcs1000 said:
Surely - given Covid-19 - the real question is whether the Presidential election is Sanders' VP vs Pence or Biden's VP vs Pence.Barnesian said:Using the average of latest swing state polls I estimate that Biden beats Trump 293 EV to 245.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mMD5cZIBf7k8YoZcEjxMhmUm489cCPa0u9jgjULa1f0/edit?usp=sharing
On the other hand, Trump beats Sanders 282 EV to 256.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iGvzqbNJxTpJ6A_I6mdOrc7uirdbKSqANnFb7dEN23Y/edit?usp=sharing
If Sanders is nominee, Trump is a bet.
If Biden is nominee, Trump is a lay.0 -
Sticking by Sanders for now0
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Way to go! Sense breaking out in the Dems.
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Trump spouts nonsense but bluffs his way through it. Biden is just sad.Nigelb said:
Just fine.Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
He’ll spout nonsense back at Trump’s nonsense.
Difference is that Biden will have moments of lucidity. And a VP who doesn’t give you the creeps.
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Trump fears Biden.
That is all that should matter now.1 -
I doubt if Klobuchar dropping out makes much difference, other than ensuring Sanders wins Minnesota0
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And the alternative is?Philip_Thompson said:
Trump spouts nonsense but bluffs his way through it. Biden is just sad.Nigelb said:
Just fine.Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
He’ll spout nonsense back at Trump’s nonsense.
Difference is that Biden will have moments of lucidity. And a VP who doesn’t give you the creeps.
The best candidate was Buttigieg but he couldn't get traction with the Dem base.0 -
I believe dead heat rules apply...another_richard said:
What happens if all 4 on the ticket go down ?rcs1000 said:
Surely - given Covid-19 - the real question is whether the Presidential election is Sanders' VP vs Pence or Biden's VP vs Pence.Barnesian said:Using the average of latest swing state polls I estimate that Biden beats Trump 293 EV to 245.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mMD5cZIBf7k8YoZcEjxMhmUm489cCPa0u9jgjULa1f0/edit?usp=sharing
On the other hand, Trump beats Sanders 282 EV to 256.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iGvzqbNJxTpJ6A_I6mdOrc7uirdbKSqANnFb7dEN23Y/edit?usp=sharing
If Sanders is nominee, Trump is a bet.
If Biden is nominee, Trump is a lay.0 -
According to today’s Gazzetta del Mezzogiorno, at yesterday’s football match in Lecce, Puglia (4 cases in the region so far) the ambulance service tested 1,200 spectators, all tested negative.
That’s right - the Italians at one stadium in one provincial town tested twice as many people at a single football match than the whole of the USA has managed since the crisis began.0 -
Trump's nonsense and bluster is often entertaining and amusing, or would be were he not president at any rate. I've not seen as many of Biden's moments, but they don't seem to be as energetically bonkers. Here's hoping Biden can keep it together enough to win.Philip_Thompson said:
Trump spouts nonsense but bluffs his way through it. Biden is just sad.Nigelb said:
Just fine.Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
He’ll spout nonsense back at Trump’s nonsense.
Difference is that Biden will have moments of lucidity. And a VP who doesn’t give you the creeps.0 -
So by the end of Super Tuesday if Sanders is still ahead does that mean he can't lose? I know next to nothing about how it works.0
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Pulpstar said:
Bibi the comeback kid
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If he's ahead in exit polls he's a mile ahead in the real vote. Didn't even realise they were having an election tbh.
I don't think the comeback kid is a relevant metaphor for Bibi...more like Alien...just when you think you've nuked the motherfucker up he pops....
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The trouble is that while the sort of measures the central banks will be floating tomorrow do very little for the real economy, they do wonders for asset prices including stock markets. Which is why the Dow is going up.Benpointer said:
Good to see you back Scott.Scott_xP said:
Regarding the tweet, the DJ is unsurprisingly over-reacting upwards... the fundemantal negative impact of coronavirus on the global economy is not going to go away imo.0 -
It’s basically Ed Biden Milliband against Bernie Corbyn.
Good trading Market though.0 -
She knows her way around the White House.....Philip_Thompson said:
It bothered a lot then. Mainly from the blue corner.rpjs said:
Didn't seem to bother folks much in 2000 and 2004.another_richard said:
I'll add that the "After Hilary it will be Michelle followed by Chelsea then the Obama girls" talk in 2016 would certainly have boosted Trump.another_richard said:
Michelle Obama isn't a politician and people have been asking that question for months.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Really. The US are in a mess thenanother_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Why doesn't Michelle Obama or someone sensible stand
Presidential candidates were once regularly state governors but now they are decrepit Washington politicians.
I suspect many voters don't think the Presidency is something which should be passed around members of the same family.
At least Dubya had been a state Governor. People touting Michelle is nonsense, what state has she been Governor of? What qualifications has she got?0 -
It depends on how much he is ahead by.CorrectHorseBattery said:So by the end of Super Tuesday if Sanders is still ahead does that mean he can't lose? I know next to nothing about how it works.
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Yes, Netanyahu's coalition narrowly ahead on exit polls as he survives againtyson said:Pulpstar said:Bibi the comeback kid
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If he's ahead in exit polls he's a mile ahead in the real vote. Didn't even realise they were having an election tbh.
I don't think the comeback kid is a relevant metaphor for Bibi...more like Alien...just when you think you've nuked the motherfucker up he pops....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-517096990 -
Not sure this volatility bodes well for the next few months.IanB2 said:
Yes, a late closing recovery that doesn’t appear justified by the emerging US virus news.humbugger said:Wall Street very excitable in the last hour or so.
The Dow rose 12% on October 30th 1929 but that didn't stop it sprialling downwards for the next few weeks.0 -
He's a young man too, only 70.kle4 said:
3rd in 11 months, you can be forgiven for being surprised. May they form a government this time at least.Pulpstar said:Bibi the comeback kid
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If he's ahead in exit polls he's a mile ahead in the real vote. Didn't even realise they were having an election tbh.0 -
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Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.0 -
No, I think that was a good deal of it. He was extremely close to his son Beau, whom he saw as his political successor (and who by all accounts was pretty talented).Philip_Thompson said:
Sympathies for the kid but that's not all there is.Nigelb said:
He didn’t run because his kid died.Philip_Thompson said:
Lets not overblow it. Even five years ago Biden was awful, that's why he didn't run when he had the incumbency of being Veep.BluestBlue said:
Joe Biden as President = Patrick Stewart playing Picard.Mysticrose said:
Okay that was rather goodPhilip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
An awesome idea - five years ago...
And Obama talked him out of it (reportedly)
I wonder why Obama talked him out of it?
Though you’re right it’s not as simple as that.
The story of the 2016 nomination (or one account of it) is here:
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/04/bidens-20202-announcement-brought-praise-obama/587989/
I’m not sure he’d have beaten Clinton, who is probably the better machine politician, to the nomination. But I’m pretty sure if he had, he’d have beaten Trump.
This time round ? Who knows at this point...0 -
Endorsing Biden. Bugger me.
I could find more compelling candidates in my local care home.0 -
Does Biden (‘s team) have a solution to healthcare, if that’s the issue on which the election can be won?rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.0 -
A bit like the mighty Action Jackson (Apollo Creed)...he takes a lickin but keeps on tickin....HYUFD said:
Yes, Netanyahu's coalition narrowly ahead on exit polls as he survives againtyson said:Pulpstar said:Bibi the comeback kid
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If he's ahead in exit polls he's a mile ahead in the real vote. Didn't even realise they were having an election tbh.
I don't think the comeback kid is a relevant metaphor for Bibi...more like Alien...just when you think you've nuked the motherfucker up he pops....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-51709699
One of those elections that isn't what the world quite needs right now...just more fuckwittery
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Young cardinals; old popes...Casino_Royale said:Endorsing Biden. Bugger me.
I could find more compelling candidates in my local care home.0 -
Not for long...Casino_Royale said:Endorsing Biden. Bugger me.
I could find more compelling candidates in my local care home.1 -
My wallet is daring to breath tonight.
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Which is an indictment on the USA as a whole.IanB2 said:According to today’s Gazzetta del Mezzogiorno, at yesterday’s football match in Lecce, Puglia (4 cases in the region so far) the ambulance service tested 1,200 spectators, all tested negative.
That’s right - the Italians at one stadium in one provincial town tested twice as many people at a single football match than the whole of the USA has managed since the crisis began.
Now given that the main outbreak in the USA is in Washington state and that Washington state has had Democrat governors continuously since 1984 ...0 -
No, against you, Donald.HYUFD said:0 -
One amusing part about Biden's rise is that he could potentially push Bloomberg below viability in California, though Buttigieg and Klob pulling out make this less likely.
Sanders faces the same danger with Warren in Texas.0 -
Ouch.Chameleon said:
Not for long...Casino_Royale said:Endorsing Biden. Bugger me.
I could find more compelling candidates in my local care home.0 -
the state of US politics is just fucking depressing....rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.
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How many debates are left in the Dem calendar?0
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Couldn’t they recall any for Biden... ?HYUFD said:0 -
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Pulpstar said:
One amusing part about Biden's rise is that he could potentially push Bloomberg below viability in California, though Buttigieg and Klob pulling out make this less likely.
Sanders faces the same danger with Warren in Texas.
I don't know- but is there a any kind of pathway for Warren??...she is by far their best candidate....
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If you read Michelle Obama's autobiography it's pretty clear she's never going to be a candidate. She hates politics.MarqueeMark said:
She knows her way around the White House.....Philip_Thompson said:
It bothered a lot then. Mainly from the blue corner.rpjs said:
Didn't seem to bother folks much in 2000 and 2004.another_richard said:
I'll add that the "After Hilary it will be Michelle followed by Chelsea then the Obama girls" talk in 2016 would certainly have boosted Trump.another_richard said:
Michelle Obama isn't a politician and people have been asking that question for months.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Really. The US are in a mess thenanother_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Why doesn't Michelle Obama or someone sensible stand
Presidential candidates were once regularly state governors but now they are decrepit Washington politicians.
I suspect many voters don't think the Presidency is something which should be passed around members of the same family.
At least Dubya had been a state Governor. People touting Michelle is nonsense, what state has she been Governor of? What qualifications has she got?0 -
Wishful thinking on both counts, sadly. Trump will just blame it all on the Dems and the MSM.Henrietta2 said:
One big promise on the cvirus that goes tits up and Trump is finished. He might be finished anyway.rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.
Could the Republicans remove him?0 -
You have to be a particular type of sociopath to be a political leader....Michelle doesn't quite fit that bill....Benpointer said:
If you read Michelle Obama's autobiography it's pretty clear she's never going to be a candidate. She hates politics.MarqueeMark said:
She knows her way around the White House.....Philip_Thompson said:
It bothered a lot then. Mainly from the blue corner.rpjs said:
Didn't seem to bother folks much in 2000 and 2004.another_richard said:
I'll add that the "After Hilary it will be Michelle followed by Chelsea then the Obama girls" talk in 2016 would certainly have boosted Trump.another_richard said:
Michelle Obama isn't a politician and people have been asking that question for months.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Really. The US are in a mess thenanother_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Why doesn't Michelle Obama or someone sensible stand
Presidential candidates were once regularly state governors but now they are decrepit Washington politicians.
I suspect many voters don't think the Presidency is something which should be passed around members of the same family.
At least Dubya had been a state Governor. People touting Michelle is nonsense, what state has she been Governor of? What qualifications has she got?
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Wouldn't you if you'd experienced it from the inside ?Benpointer said:
If you read Michelle Obama's autobiography it's pretty clear she's never going to be a candidate. She hates politics.MarqueeMark said:
She knows her way around the White House.....Philip_Thompson said:
It bothered a lot then. Mainly from the blue corner.rpjs said:
Didn't seem to bother folks much in 2000 and 2004.another_richard said:
I'll add that the "After Hilary it will be Michelle followed by Chelsea then the Obama girls" talk in 2016 would certainly have boosted Trump.another_richard said:
Michelle Obama isn't a politician and people have been asking that question for months.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Really. The US are in a mess thenanother_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Why doesn't Michelle Obama or someone sensible stand
Presidential candidates were once regularly state governors but now they are decrepit Washington politicians.
I suspect many voters don't think the Presidency is something which should be passed around members of the same family.
At least Dubya had been a state Governor. People touting Michelle is nonsense, what state has she been Governor of? What qualifications has she got?1 -
Beau, his son, died aged 45 of brain cancer in 2015. He had been severely injured as a young child in the car smash that killed Biden's wife and young daughter many years ago.Philip_Thompson said:
Sympathies for the kid but that's not all there is.Nigelb said:
He didn’t run because his kid died.Philip_Thompson said:
Lets not overblow it. Even five years ago Biden was awful, that's why he didn't run when he had the incumbency of being Veep.BluestBlue said:
Joe Biden as President = Patrick Stewart playing Picard.Mysticrose said:
Okay that was rather goodPhilip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
An awesome idea - five years ago...
And Obama talked him out of it (reportedly)
I wonder why Obama talked him out of it?
When Beau died, I remember how shell-shocked Biden was. He could hardly function. I wasn't surprised that he decided not to run.2 -
Warren has one path - Here it is:tyson said:Pulpstar said:One amusing part about Biden's rise is that he could potentially push Bloomberg below viability in California, though Buttigieg and Klob pulling out make this less likely.
Sanders faces the same danger with Warren in Texas.
I don't know- but is there a any kind of pathway for Warren??...she is by far their best candidate....
Sanders just short, Sanders offers VP to Warren for her delegates. Sanders has a massive heart attack or catches Covid19 - either too ill to carry on or dies.0 -
I rather suspect sadly that we have not seen the worst.tyson said:
the state of US politics is just fucking depressing....rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.0 -
One on the 15th, I think.TheScreamingEagles said:How many debates are left in the Dem calendar?
Fewer names on stage for Biden to remember by then.0 -
And ours so uplifting ?tyson said:
the state of US politics is just fucking depressing....rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.
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Biden win then.HYUFD said:0 -
Cheers.Nigelb said:
One on the 15th, I think.TheScreamingEagles said:How many debates are left in the Dem calendar?
Fewer names on stage for Biden to remember by then.0 -
If anyone still believes the Chinese figures then today might be the first day when deaths outside China exceed deaths inside. Seems to be 35:36.0
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Pulpstar said:
Warren has one path - Here it is:tyson said:Pulpstar said:One amusing part about Biden's rise is that he could potentially push Bloomberg below viability in California, though Buttigieg and Klob pulling out make this less likely.
Sanders faces the same danger with Warren in Texas.
I don't know- but is there a any kind of pathway for Warren??...she is by far their best candidate....
Sanders just short, Sanders offers VP to Warren for her delegates. Sanders has a massive heart attack or catches Covid19 - either too ill to carry on or dies.
I think I'm going to put 30 notes on that path now....not beyond the realms, and I was going to get a takeaway tonight0 -
But can you find more compelling ones in the Democratic Primaries?Casino_Royale said:Endorsing Biden. Bugger me.
I could find more compelling candidates in my local care home.
What a bizarre thing to say. I know why, and he's trying to get Bernie fans riled up, but it's still bizarre.HYUFD said:0 -
I've put a couple of quid on Biden for Maine at 6.1
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No, but sometimes it seems like american politics exists to make ours (mostly) look better.Nigelb said:
And ours so uplifting ?tyson said:
the state of US politics is just fucking depressing....rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.0 -
I just put a few quid on Warren...it just seems like she's the only adult in the roomrottenborough said:I've put a couple of quid on Biden for Maine at 6.
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That’s a pretty old poll.HYUFD said:
Since then Sanders has had his Cuba kerfuffle, and 9f course Buttigieg and Klobuchar have pulled out.0 -
He's had his instructions from Moscow.kle4 said:
But can you find more compelling ones in the Democratic Primaries?Casino_Royale said:Endorsing Biden. Bugger me.
I could find more compelling candidates in my local care home.
What a bizarre thing to say. I know why, and he's trying to get Bernie fans riled up, but it's still bizarre.HYUFD said:0 -
Shouldn’t that cheer us up, then ?kle4 said:
No, but sometimes it seems like american politics exists to make ours (mostly) look better.Nigelb said:
And ours so uplifting ?tyson said:
the state of US politics is just fucking depressing....rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.0 -
Warren as POTUS is 110 at moment. I've put a pint on that.tyson said:
I just put a few quid on Warren...it just seems like she's the only adult in the roomrottenborough said:I've put a couple of quid on Biden for Maine at 6.
Don't ask me how we get from here to there
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Our politics is better. It's not just the leaders and parties, which I think are better, it's things like the neutrality of government departments, independent judiciary, a press that is on the whole more willing to challenge the executive, and our parties seem to be broader. I think we also do a lot better with things like elections, seat boundaries, and voter registration.kle4 said:No, but sometimes it seems like american politics exists to make ours (mostly) look better.
We're not perfect, but I really can't think of any aspect of US politics that we should copy.
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So the moderates are left with a candidate who has been round this loop repeatedly and confuses everyone including himself. It’s Bidenception.0
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Ground joe day.AlastairMeeks said:So the moderates are left with a candidate who has been round this loop repeatedly and confuses everyone including himself. It’s Bidenception.
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Biden > Corbyntyson said:
the state of US politics is just fucking depressing....rcs1000 said:
Hard to disagree...Philip_Thompson said:
Not come November. How is Biden going to fare in the debates when he can't even finish a sentence?not_on_fire said:
Being not Trump is definitely enoughPhilip_Thompson said:
We can all see his mental faculties are failing.dodrade said:
How has it come to this that the Democratic establishment are rallying behind a man whose mental faculties are visibly failing?Philip_Thompson said:
That was 30 years ago.another_richard said:
Neil Kinnock.Big_G_NorthWales said:Can someome help me here
I know Sanders is compared to Corbyn but who does Biden compare with
I have a poor knowledge of the candidates but I do want Trump out but not to Sanders
Now he's comparable to Neil Kinnock with early signs of dementia.
Say that to Biden supporters and they don't even deny it, they're just like "at least its not Trump or Sanders" as if that makes everything great.
Between this election and not testing for COVID America is fucked.
Biden is a spectacularly poor candidate with obvious signs of mental degradation, who is going to end up head-to-head with Trump because... well, probably because Mike Bloomberg stopped the field properly consolidating post Iowa and New Hampshire.
That being said, the US public health response to Covid-19 has been utterly appalling. It's possible tens of thousands of people will end up dying unnecessarily from it. In that circumstance, I don't think it matters who the nominee is. Trump will be hammered.
and Labour put him forward twice.
The UK left have no comfort blanket.0 -
You need a "we're alright" moment from Biden.rottenborough said:
Warren as POTUS is 110 at moment. I've put a pint on that.tyson said:
I just put a few quid on Warren...it just seems like she's the only adult in the roomrottenborough said:I've put a couple of quid on Biden for Maine at 6.
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I’ve put a couple of quid on Abrams and Harris for president along similar lines.tyson said:
I think I'm going to put 30 notes on that path now....not beyond the realms, and I was going to get a takeaway tonightPulpstar said:
Warren has one path - Here it is:tyson said:Pulpstar said:One amusing part about Biden's rise is that he could potentially push Bloomberg below viability in California, though Buttigieg and Klob pulling out make this less likely.
Sanders faces the same danger with Warren in Texas.
I don't know- but is there a any kind of pathway for Warren??...she is by far their best candidate....
Sanders just short, Sanders offers VP to Warren for her delegates. Sanders has a massive heart attack or catches Covid19 - either too ill to carry on or dies.
One of them is probably Biden’s VP.0 -
Howard Dean?williamglenn said:
You need a "we're alright" moment from Biden.rottenborough said:
Warren as POTUS is 110 at moment. I've put a pint on that.tyson said:
I just put a few quid on Warren...it just seems like she's the only adult in the roomrottenborough said:I've put a couple of quid on Biden for Maine at 6.
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Certainly not their campaign finance.glw said:
Our politics is better. It's not just the leaders and parties, which I think are better, it's things like the neutrality of government departments, independent judiciary, a press that is on the whole more willing to challenge the executive, and our parties seem to be broader. I think we also do a lot better with things like elections, seat boundaries, and voter registration.kle4 said:No, but sometimes it seems like american politics exists to make ours (mostly) look better.
We're not perfect, but I really can't think of any aspect of US politics that we should copy.0 -
you need to get a lifeMysticrose said:I think we're right on the edge of a cliff-fall moment in the US
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Yes I should have mentioned that. US politics is facinating, but it's certainly not a good example of how things should be done.Nigelb said:
Certainly not their campaign finance.glw said:
Our politics is better. It's not just the leaders and parties, which I think are better, it's things like the neutrality of government departments, independent judiciary, a press that is on the whole more willing to challenge the executive, and our parties seem to be broader. I think we also do a lot better with things like elections, seat boundaries, and voter registration.kle4 said:No, but sometimes it seems like american politics exists to make ours (mostly) look better.
We're not perfect, but I really can't think of any aspect of US politics that we should copy.0 -
Nina Turner could be Sanders VP if you want to complete the likely set so to speak.Nigelb said:
I’ve put a couple of quid on Abrams and Harris for president along similar lines.tyson said:
I think I'm going to put 30 notes on that path now....not beyond the realms, and I was going to get a takeaway tonightPulpstar said:
Warren has one path - Here it is:tyson said:Pulpstar said:One amusing part about Biden's rise is that he could potentially push Bloomberg below viability in California, though Buttigieg and Klob pulling out make this less likely.
Sanders faces the same danger with Warren in Texas.
I don't know- but is there a any kind of pathway for Warren??...she is by far their best candidate....
Sanders just short, Sanders offers VP to Warren for her delegates. Sanders has a massive heart attack or catches Covid19 - either too ill to carry on or dies.
One of them is probably Biden’s VP.0 -
Long may it continue, I managed to get 12K back today.IanB2 said:
The trouble is that while the sort of measures the central banks will be floating tomorrow do very little for the real economy, they do wonders for asset prices including stock markets. Which is why the Dow is going up.Benpointer said:
Good to see you back Scott.Scott_xP said:
Regarding the tweet, the DJ is unsurprisingly over-reacting upwards... the fundemantal negative impact of coronavirus on the global economy is not going to go away imo.0 -
At grass roots there’s a folksy localness about it, which seems at odds with how big money it is at the top. And in many communities people are willing to show their support with lawn posters (without apparent fear of vandalism or theft).glw said:
Our politics is better. It's not just the leaders and parties, which I think are better, it's things like the neutrality of government departments, independent judiciary, a press that is on the whole more willing to challenge the executive, and our parties seem to be broader. I think we also do a lot better with things like elections, seat boundaries, and voter registration.kle4 said:No, but sometimes it seems like american politics exists to make ours (mostly) look better.
We're not perfect, but I really can't think of any aspect of US politics that we should copy.
Otherwise, you are right, it’s mostly appalling.0 -
It does look as if China may well have cracked it, and be producing accurate figures. Closedowns work.rottenborough said:
https://twitter.com/kakape/status/1234603592407044096?s=190 -
Will Trump be able to scream fake news when voters are seeing hazard-suited paramedics in their hoods?eadric said:
Yes. Trump's disgraceful mishandling of this endangers the world. America is a f*cking shitshow.DavidL said:I tentatively suggested, with my usual lack of expertise not holding me back, that anyone whose death rate was more than 2% of their infected rate had a problem because there were almost certainly "unfound" victims spreading the virus unchecked in the community. The reckless Iran with all the tongue licking of Islamic statues is currently sitting at 4.4%. Tonight the USA is over 6%.
It goes beyond neglect. They tried to impeach Trump because he wanted to find out a bit about Biden's possible corruption. He should be impeached for this and his cuts in the CDC budget. He is a disgrace.
https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/1233354415077281794?s=20
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Perhaps, but not tempted.Pulpstar said:
Nina Turner could be Sanders VP if you want to complete the likely set so to speak.Nigelb said:
I’ve put a couple of quid on Abrams and Harris for president along similar lines.tyson said:
I think I'm going to put 30 notes on that path now....not beyond the realms, and I was going to get a takeaway tonightPulpstar said:
Warren has one path - Here it is:tyson said:Pulpstar said:One amusing part about Biden's rise is that he could potentially push Bloomberg below viability in California, though Buttigieg and Klob pulling out make this less likely.
Sanders faces the same danger with Warren in Texas.
I don't know- but is there a any kind of pathway for Warren??...she is by far their best candidate....
Sanders just short, Sanders offers VP to Warren for her delegates. Sanders has a massive heart attack or catches Covid19 - either too ill to carry on or dies.
One of them is probably Biden’s VP.
Abrams might be a pretty smart pick for Sanders, anyway.0 -
The surprise of the night could be Warren beating Bloomberg...0
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I don't want to boast but I put £10 on Biden at 15/1 a few days ago. That figure was ridiculous IMO.0
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Feel free to have a crack at setting out what Biden would do as President. Other than nap and suck Werthers OriginalsAlastairMeeks said:So the moderates are left with a candidate who has been round this loop repeatedly and confuses everyone including himself. It’s Bidenception.
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First person account of an Italian Covid sufferer.
59 year old with a history of pneumonia, she pulled through with what sounds like minimal treatment:
https://slate.com/technology/2020/03/i-had-the-coronavirus-worst-part-stigma.html
... They took some X-rays, and they confirmed that I had pneumonia. There were no rooms in isolation, though, so they put me on a stretcher in an unused office that lacked even a bathroom. Every two hours they would come to check my vitals. They gave me the swab, and the results came back a day later: positive for COVID-19.
When they told me about it, I wasn’t afraid for myself. I had figured I had it, and I was actually doing better—it was like having a bad flu. I was afraid for everyone else. I thought back to whom I had seen, whom I had come in contact with, and I hoped with all of myself that no one had contracted the virus. I had to call my friends, family, and co-workers and explain the whole story.
They transferred me to the infectious diseases department at a bigger hospital in Bergamo. There, they were more prepared to handle this emergency. I was in isolation; no one could visit me. Since there is no cure, they could only give me Tylenol...0 -
The First Amendmentglw said:
Our politics is better. It's not just the leaders and parties, which I think are better, it's things like the neutrality of government departments, independent judiciary, a press that is on the whole more willing to challenge the executive, and our parties seem to be broader. I think we also do a lot better with things like elections, seat boundaries, and voter registration.kle4 said:No, but sometimes it seems like american politics exists to make ours (mostly) look better.
We're not perfect, but I really can't think of any aspect of US politics that we should copy.0
