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It’s another big night in the fight for he WH2010 Democratic nomination with the caucuses in Nevada. We should start getting results at about 0300 GMT.
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First like France.0
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You are not possibly suggesting that boxing judges could be bent? Nearly as bad as GGG vs Canelo 1st fight, where GGG definitely won but one judge had it Canelo by 8 rounds.Sandpit said:
Even marking that last round as 10-7 doesn’t get you Tom a draw, Fury was way ahead on every commentator’s scorecard.FrancisUrquhart said:
Like the way they managed to get the first fight as a draw, despite Fury outboxing Wilder for a good 9 rounds.MaxPB said:
Nah, dodgy American judges. One might give it to Wilder anyway.tyson said:Sandpit said:
So what do you reckon, Wilder or Fury tonight? Betfair have them 2.04 and 2.12 respectively, too close to call.Casino_Royale said:I see this has turned into Coronaviruschat.com again
It's either Wilder on a knockout or Fury on unanimous- I cannot see any other outcome.....
Let’s hope this is just as epic a fight as the last one.1 -
Blimey TSE, a new thread to get away from my zinging retort is a bit excessive!TheScreamingEagles said:First like France.
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Cheating your way to first like France?TheScreamingEagles said:First like France.
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I am, well five of us are chipping in a fiver each and we're watching it on my mate's new 65" TV.TheScreamingEagles said:How many of you are actually paying £25 for the Fury v Wilder match?
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I think it means he is going on strike.FrancisUrquhart said:
Cheating your way to first like France?TheScreamingEagles said:First like France.
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Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.1 -
Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.1 -
Nah, the French were awesome today, we needed a match like that after the turdfest Scotland and Italy produced earlier.FrancisUrquhart said:
Cheating your way to first like France?TheScreamingEagles said:First like France.
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Jesus Christ, the fight costs $85 in the US.0
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The fight is way past my bedtime.MaxPB said:
I am, well five of us are chipping in a fiver each and we're watching it on my mate's new 65" TV.TheScreamingEagles said:How many of you are actually paying £25 for the Fury v Wilder match?
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On topic, this market is still under-round, although less so than it has been. The back prices of the ten layable candidates add to 96.1%.0
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And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?0 -
And they’re expecting two million subscriptions.FrancisUrquhart said:Jesus Christ, the fight costs $85 in the US.
Although to be fair, it’s not on at 5 in the morning in the US.0 -
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?0 -
The thing I find most annoying about boxing PPV vs UFC, is UFC stack their big PPV cards with lots of really top quality fights. Boxing it seems most of the time like the undercard is whoever is cheapest to fill the slots.Sandpit said:
And they’re expecting two million subscriptions.FrancisUrquhart said:Jesus Christ, the fight costs $85 in the US.
Although to be fair, it’s not on at 5 in the morning in the US.
e.g. the 2nd fight from the top on the bill is basically two heavyweight nobodies, one of which AJ put away in 2 rounds. The 3rd fight includes a boxer doesn't even have a wikipedia page.0 -
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.0 -
If Leicester win this, and Liverpool win their next four matches, then they'll win the title at Goodison.
It can't happen can it?1 -
Minor trinkets compared to the Webb Ellis Trophy.ydoethur said:
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.0 -
I had to open my gob didn't I?0
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Winning a Grand Slam and beating England at the Millennium Stadium is worth all the world cups in the universe.TheScreamingEagles said:
Minor trinkets compared to the Webb Ellis Trophy.ydoethur said:
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.1 -
Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html0 -
I've bought it....with a 4.00 alarm call....MaxPB said:
I am, well five of us are chipping in a fiver each and we're watching it on my mate's new 65" TV.TheScreamingEagles said:How many of you are actually paying £25 for the Fury v Wilder match?
It's not on 5 live
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Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.0 -
I don’t really watch UFC but that’s a fair point. They’ll put three or four big title fights on the same bill.FrancisUrquhart said:
The thing I find most annoying about boxing PPV vs UFC, is UFC stack their big PPV cards with lots of really top quality fights. Boxing it seems most of the time like the undercard is whoever is cheapest to fill the slots.Sandpit said:
And they’re expecting two million subscriptions.FrancisUrquhart said:Jesus Christ, the fight costs $85 in the US.
Although to be fair, it’s not on at 5 in the morning in the US.
e.g. the 2nd fight from the top on the bill is basically two heavyweight nobodies, one of which AJ put away in 2 rounds. The 3rd fight includes a boxer doesn't even have a wikipedia page.
I guess the more disjointed way that boxing is governed and promoted (and all the massive egos involved) makes it more difficult to organise everyone around the same event.0 -
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.ydoethur said:
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
Not that I am bitter.0 -
They mean clusters that can’t be traced back to a source, as was done with the British/French cluster and that guy from the ski chalet.RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
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I've backed the away team for every match this weekend.TheScreamingEagles said:First like France.
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The source is untraceable not the victimsRobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.0 -
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.Mexicanpete said:
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.ydoethur said:
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
Not that I am bitter.0 -
I've chickened out a exited the Fury Wilder market even though clearly Wilder will win.0
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So when I get shouted at for swearing between 3pm and 5pm tomorrow I can blame you?Alistair said:
I've backed the away team for every match this weekend.TheScreamingEagles said:First like France.
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Tip tackle? From what I saw through the rose tinted spectacles issued to the whole of Wales on that Saturday Clerc barely left the floor.Alistair said:
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.Mexicanpete said:
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.ydoethur said:
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
Not that I am bitter.0 -
The commentator on the night called it one of the most controversial decisions in the history of the World Cup. Even today the Italian only got a yellow for a similar offence.Alistair said:
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.Mexicanpete said:
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.ydoethur said:
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
Not that I am bitter.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yLpptT_nCp01 -
Shocking from VAR in the first half, can't comprehend how Leicester didn't get any penalties.TheScreamingEagles said:If Leicester win this, and Liverpool win their next four matches, then they'll win the title at Goodison.
It can't happen can it?
Now we *urgh* rely upon Manchester United winning at Old Trafford in order to get the title at Goodison. Urgh.0 -
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.0 -
The key point from the Mail story is that apparently only about half the Brits from the ship were on the flight destined for ‘Butlins Wirral’ with the remainder, variously, having:nichomar said:
The source is untraceable not the victimsRobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
- decided to stay on the ship
- got fed up waiting for the UK rescue and gone on the flights to other countries, presumably then to make their own way home
- refused the UK flight and quarantine as they wished to travel home themselves and be with family
which doesn’t bode well if, as happened in with the US and Japanese passengers off the same ship, a bunch of them subsequently become ill0 -
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.3 -
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.0 -
People who wish to travel between China and Iran.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
What mad kind of question is that?2 -
People with Coronavirus, apparently.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.7 -
7 airlines fly direct from China to Iran.0
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Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
Also, both countries are on the old Silk Road, lots of trade between them.1 -
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.Sandpit said:
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom0 -
A planeload of people every day from Guangzhou, several planes a week from shanghai, one weekly from Beijing, and a few each month from Urumqi, Shenzhen and Chengdu, apparently, plus any others willing to change plans at Doha.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.0 -
HMG surely have the passenger manifest. They know who they are looking for.IanB2 said:
The key point from the Mail story is that apparently only about half the Brits from the ship were on the flight destined for ‘Butlins Wirral’ with the remainder, variously, having:nichomar said:
The source is untraceable not the victimsRobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
- decided to stay on the ship
- got fed up waiting for the UK rescue and gone on the flights to other countries, presumably then to make their own way home
- refused the UK flight and quarantine as they wished to travel home themselves and be with family
which doesn’t bode well if, as happened in with the US and Japanese passengers off the same ship, a bunch of them subsequently become ill0 -
Like so many countries, lovely people but terrible leaders. There’s lots of places to visit in Iran - when there isn’t a war going on.Luckyguy1983 said:
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.Sandpit said:
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom0 -
The IRB had censured refs for failing to red card players for tip tackling all tournament. Every player who tip tackled during the tournament got a multi week ban.Sandpit said:
The commentator on the night called it one of the most controversial decisions in the history of the World Cup. Even today the Italian only got a yellow for a similar offence.Alistair said:
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.Mexicanpete said:
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.ydoethur said:
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.TheScreamingEagles said:
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.ydoethur said:
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*TheScreamingEagles said:
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.ydoethur said:
Why? Because we keep winning?TheScreamingEagles said:
I was cheering for France.squareroot2 said:Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
Not that I am bitter.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yLpptT_nCp0
There was a massive ref meeting prior to the semi finals where the IRB pointed out tip tackles where auto reds.0 -
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Tip tackle? From what I saw through the rose tinted spectacles issued to the whole of Wales on that Saturday Clerc barely left the floor.
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Nevertheless perhaps a more credible theory than that the Iranians had been sitting on a top secret load of test tubes containing Coronavirus and used the unrelated outbreak in China to release it by infecting a bunch of their own people?Luckyguy1983 said:
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.Sandpit said:
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom1 -
Only a tiny bit more credible.IanB2 said:
Nevertheless perhaps a more credible theory than that the Iranians had been sitting on a top secret load of test tubes containing Coronavirus and used the unrelated outbreak in China to release it by infecting a bunch of their own people?Luckyguy1983 said:
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.Sandpit said:
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom0 -
He's definitely the favourite now!speedy2 said:Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.0 -
Now the 2015 world cup was a world cup where the refereeing was perfect on every occasion.Alistair said:
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.0 -
First up against the wall when the revolution comes.TheScreamingEagles said:
Now the 2015 world cup was a world cup where refereeing was perfect on every occasion.Alistair said:
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
We'd have totally beaten Arg too given the rank performance they put in against Aus.0 -
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I'm hoping Craig Joubert backs Yes in any future Indyref, No would win a landslide.Alistair said:
First up against the wall when the revolution comes.TheScreamingEagles said:
Now the 2015 world cup was a world cup where refereeing was perfect on every occasion.Alistair said:
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
We'd have totally beaten Arg too given the rank performance they put in against Aus.0 -
It doesn't quite say that. Some people live abroad so I'm not sure why they would want to be airlifted to the UK. Others elected to stay with (presumably non-British) family members.IanB2 said:
The key point from the Mail story is that apparently only about half the Brits from the ship were on the flight destined for ‘Butlins Wirral’ with the remainder, variously, having:nichomar said:
The source is untraceable not the victimsRobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
- decided to stay on the ship
- got fed up waiting for the UK rescue and gone on the flights to other countries, presumably then to make their own way home
- refused the UK flight and quarantine as they wished to travel home themselves and be with family
which doesn’t bode well if, as happened in with the US and Japanese passengers off the same ship, a bunch of them subsequently become ill0 -
The thing that grates about Joubert's absolute and total howler is that it overshadowed what an absolute and totally biased performance Joubert put in over the 80. A ref who never willing witnessed the lower ranked team beat the higher rank team.TheScreamingEagles said:
I'm hoping Craig Joubert backs Yes in any future Indyref, No would win a landslide.Alistair said:
First up against the wall when the revolution comes.TheScreamingEagles said:
Now the 2015 world cup was a world cup where refereeing was perfect on every occasion.Alistair said:
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
We'd have totally beaten Arg too given the rank performance they put in against Aus.0 -
I'm confused, if you're expecting Biden, Baemy and Buttigieg to drop out who do you expect to be left? Just Bloomberg? Seems unlikely to me.rcs1000 said:
He's definitely the favourite now!speedy2 said:Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.0 -
And even more hideously, you aren't getting the pay-day from it......eadric said:Riots in Iran over coronavirus quarantine
https://twitter.com/AlirezaNader/status/1231285543817924609?s=20
State of emergency in Italy
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1231271761758621697?s=20
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I know this is off topic but such beautiful and moving young voices
https://www.facebook.com/248910050965/posts/10156664992290966/?sfnsn=scwspwa&extid=F7JNfpqSkkEkHFw8&d=w&vh=e0 -
How long before Britain is sealed off "Children of Men" style?eadric said:Riots in Iran over coronavirus quarantine
https://twitter.com/AlirezaNader/status/1231285543817924609?s=20
State of emergency in Italy
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1231271761758621697?s=20
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I'd not have thought so either, but I know several people who've been - as you say they like the people and it's much more cosmopolitan in eheran than one might expect, while offering a feast of cultural history.Luckyguy1983 said:
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.
That said, I wouldn't set off there right now...0 -
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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It's kind of weird to see the current delegate leader, who got that way *before* his lane consolidated, rated at only 11%. I think the markets are taking Bloomberg way too seriously.rcs1000 said:
He's definitely the favourite now!speedy2 said:Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.
I think KLOBUCHAR drops out unless she has an unexpected SURGE, she just doesn't have the money to compete nationwide. Then Biden and Buttigieg need to make a deal. That's easy if Biden does well in SC, he can give Buttigieg the VP slot and promise not to hang on if his health fails, and if he bombs it's also easy as he can't really go into Super Tuesday after losing everything.The problem is if Biden beats Buttigieg in SC but is still kind of meh, it's not really obvious what he can be offered to persuade him not to roll the dice on Super Tuesday.0 -
FPT @Benpointer
Yes - that Peter Piot. That was a sensible discussion, reported well by the Mirror. None of the alarmist bullshit that Neil Ferguson is spouting on channel 4.
Peter accepts the inevitability of it spreading, notes that it seems more like H5N1 than SARS and worries about the ability of the NHS to cope with a pandemic.
Rational and reasonable in my viewBenpointer said:
Do you mean this Peter Piot?Charles said:
His personal interest is best served by becoming the media go to guy.Philip_Thompson said:
Almost as if panicking like a headless chicken attracts more attention than being calm and rational.Charles said:
Neil is not a “coronavirus expert”eadric said:
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PBPhilip_Thompson said:
Yes. Yes you are overreacting.eadric said:
“Potentially 400,000 deaths in the UK”Sandpit said:Coronavirus - Two Iranians tested positive in UAE.
https://www.thenational.ae/uae/health/uae-confirms-two-new-cases-of-coronavirus-bringing-total-to-13-1.982752
Now 13 confirmed cases in UAE, and 28 in Iran including five fatalities.
IMO this is now way out of control in Iran.
“Are we over-reacting?”
https://twitter.com/zachary31411891/status/1228548058713120768?s=21
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Leftovers_(TV_series)
He’s a theoretical epidemiologist. He’s been very active on Twitter since the beginning making silly statements and attracting attention
This is the person you should listen to (this particular statement is old but it was the first I pulled up with google). I’ll worry when he gets worried.
https://www.lshtm.ac.uk/newsevents/news/2020/coronavirus-comment-expert-reaction-peter-piot
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-become-pandemic-bigger-threat-214601080 -
Knowledge ??Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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A study posted on a Chinese website is not "China admits".eadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
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I was being polite but in view of his reply I do wonder how credible he is to be honestNigelb said:
Knowledge ??Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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What? You think none of us watch the news listen to the radio or read newspapers? It is not like it hasn't been in the headlines every single day.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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I'm guessing a Buttigieg/Klobuchar ticket is out of the question after the last debate?edmundintokyo said:
It's kind of weird to see the current delegate leader, who got that way *before* his lane consolidated, rated at only 11%. I think the markets are taking Bloomberg way too seriously.rcs1000 said:
He's definitely the favourite now!speedy2 said:Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.
I think KLOBUCHAR drops out unless she has an unexpected SURGE, she just doesn't have the money to compete nationwide. Then Biden and Buttigieg need to make a deal. That's easy if Biden does well in SC, he can give Buttigieg the VP slot and promise not to hang on if his health fails, and if he bombs it's also easy as he can't really go into Super Tuesday after losing everything.The problem is if Biden beats Buttigieg in SC but is still kind of meh, it's not really obvious what he can be offered to persuade him not to roll the dice on Super Tuesday.
Is Sanders really as certain to lose against Trump as the DNC fears?0 -
Sean always gets in a flap.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
I'm out in Malaysia at the moment. Fewer than 5% of people are wearing masks and the atmosphere is very chilled. Is that complacent? Not really.
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A glorious combination of egotism, hubris and supercilious sanctimonyeadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, .Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
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He’s always in a flap about something. Especially on a Saturday night.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I was being polite but in view of his reply I do wonder how credible he is to be honestNigelb said:
Knowledge ??Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoevereadric said:
Chillax dude.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
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Are the UK Labour Party organising these caucus or something?TGOHF666 said:twitter.com/cbsnews/status/1231302024005869569?s=21
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Yes, this highly engaged forum of politics geeks that follow the news will have not even HEARD of the number one news story of the last month had it not been for you.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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No it isn't. I'm in Malaysia right now and fewer than 5% are wearing masks. Probably fewer than 1%. Everyone is going about their daily lives. Plenty of suggestion that the virus requires cold conditions to multiply but even I've been surprised by the nonchalance out here in a country with a considerable Chinese population.eadric said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. .0 -
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https://youtu.be/09LTT0xwdfwBig_G_NorthWales said:I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
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Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoevereadric said:
Chillax dude.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard
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Bernie leads with moderate voters!
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My ears....my ears....are bleeding.kinabalu said:
youtu.be/09LTT0xwdfwBig_G_NorthWales said:I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
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You're just a nasty snivelling little troll aren't you?tyson said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoevereadric said:
Chillax dude.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard0 -
Trumpers for Sanders....nunu2 said:Bernie leads with moderate voters!
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It's the caucus system. It's so archaicBig_G_NorthWales said:
Is this collapsing into a farce handing Trump another win, surely the democrats are not that idiotic but then I do not know US politicsTGOHF666 said:0 -
China is 5he largest purchaser of Iranian oil.Luckyguy1983 said:
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?IanB2 said:
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?Luckyguy1983 said:
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?RobD said:
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?FrancisUrquhart said:Paging our local worrywart...
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
Unless it's an acronym.
And even if they weren’t, Chinese are present pretty well globally. Like we were a century or so back.0 -
Bernie is coming. Change is coming.nunu2 said:Bernie leads with moderate voters!
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1231313073039958023
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@Philip_Thompson
I am not a troll...I think that cruises represent the worst aspects of decadence...they are polluting hulks of metal where people consume vast quantities of resources...long haul trips to hunt wild animals are worse...but both appear top draw a certain type...0 -
The change being Trump's margin of victory in November?kinabalu said:
Bernie is coming. Change is coming.nunu2 said:Bernie leads with moderate voters!
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1231313073039958023
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So what do you do for your jollies, tyson ?tyson said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoevereadric said:
Chillax dude.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard0 -
Tyson. I could not care less about your insulting views and ignorancetyson said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoevereadric said:
Chillax dude.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Now that is just plain silly.eadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard0 -
Bernie as nominee ensures Trump doesn't just get a majority in the electoral college, he'll get a popular vote majority too.RobD said:
The change being Trump's margin of victory in November?kinabalu said:
Bernie is coming. Change is coming.nunu2 said:Bernie leads with moderate voters!
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1231313073039958023
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Indeed, you and I were discussing this on Jan 28th, and I think that it was mentioned before that.Mysticrose said:
A glorious combination of egotism, hubris and supercilious sanctimonyeadric said:
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, .Big_G_NorthWales said:
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a biteadric said:OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
https://www.globaltimes.cn/content/1180429.shtml0