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It’s another big night in the fight for he WH2010 Democratic nomination with the caucuses in Nevada. We should start getting results at about 0300 GMT.
I see this has turned into Coronaviruschat.com again
So what do you reckon, Wilder or Fury tonight? Betfair have them 2.04 and 2.12 respectively, too close to call.
It's either Wilder on a knockout or Fury on unanimous- I cannot see any other outcome.....
Nah, dodgy American judges. One might give it to Wilder anyway.
Like the way they managed to get the first fight as a draw, despite Fury outboxing Wilder for a good 9 rounds.
Even marking that last round as 10-7 doesn’t get you Tom a draw, Fury was way ahead on every commentator’s scorecard.
Let’s hope this is just as epic a fight as the last one.
You are not possibly suggesting that boxing judges could be bent? Nearly as bad as GGG vs Canelo 1st fight, where GGG definitely won but one judge had it Canelo by 8 rounds.
Although to be fair, it’s not on at 5 in the morning in the US.
The thing I find most annoying about boxing PPV vs UFC, is UFC stack their big PPV cards with lots of really top quality fights. Boxing it seems most of the time like the undercard is whoever is cheapest to fill the slots.
e.g. the 2nd fight from the top on the bill is basically two heavyweight nobodies, one of which AJ put away in 2 rounds. The 3rd fight includes a boxer doesn't even have a wikipedia page.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Although to be fair, it’s not on at 5 in the morning in the US.
The thing I find most annoying about boxing PPV vs UFC, is UFC stack their big PPV cards with lots of really top quality fights. Boxing it seems most of the time like the undercard is whoever is cheapest to fill the slots.
e.g. the 2nd fight from the top on the bill is basically two heavyweight nobodies, one of which AJ put away in 2 rounds. The 3rd fight includes a boxer doesn't even have a wikipedia page.
I don’t really watch UFC but that’s a fair point. They’ll put three or four big title fights on the same bill.
I guess the more disjointed way that boxing is governed and promoted (and all the massive egos involved) makes it more difficult to organise everyone around the same event.
Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
I was cheering for France.
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Why? Because we keep winning?
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
I was cheering for France.
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Why? Because we keep winning?
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.
Not that I am bitter.
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
I was cheering for France.
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Why? Because we keep winning?
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.
Not that I am bitter.
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
Tip tackle? From what I saw through the rose tinted spectacles issued to the whole of Wales on that Saturday Clerc barely left the floor.
Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
I was cheering for France.
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Why? Because we keep winning?
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.
Not that I am bitter.
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
The commentator on the night called it one of the most controversial decisions in the history of the World Cup. Even today the Italian only got a yellow for a similar offence. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yLpptT_nCp0
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
The source is untraceable not the victims
The key point from the Mail story is that apparently only about half the Brits from the ship were on the flight destined for ‘Butlins Wirral’ with the remainder, variously, having:
- decided to stay on the ship - got fed up waiting for the UK rescue and gone on the flights to other countries, presumably then to make their own way home - refused the UK flight and quarantine as they wished to travel home themselves and be with family
which doesn’t bode well if, as happened in with the US and Japanese passengers off the same ship, a bunch of them subsequently become ill
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
Also, both countries are on the old Silk Road, lots of trade between them.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?
A planeload of people every day from Guangzhou, several planes a week from shanghai, one weekly from Beijing, and a few each month from Urumqi, Shenzhen and Chengdu, apparently, plus any others willing to change plans at Doha.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
The source is untraceable not the victims
The key point from the Mail story is that apparently only about half the Brits from the ship were on the flight destined for ‘Butlins Wirral’ with the remainder, variously, having:
- decided to stay on the ship - got fed up waiting for the UK rescue and gone on the flights to other countries, presumably then to make their own way home - refused the UK flight and quarantine as they wished to travel home themselves and be with family
which doesn’t bode well if, as happened in with the US and Japanese passengers off the same ship, a bunch of them subsequently become ill
HMG surely have the passenger manifest. They know who they are looking for.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.
Like so many countries, lovely people but terrible leaders. There’s lots of places to visit in Iran - when there isn’t a war going on.
Oh dear, a not very important region of the UK loses and its a bit of handbags...
I was cheering for France.
Welsh Rugby Union fans are the pineapple topping on the wonderful pizza that is Rugby Union.
They've become increasingly bitter since 2003.
Why? Because we keep winning?
Since that glorious night in 2003 when we became world champions.
And how much have you won since? *innocent face*
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
We've been to two world cup finals since 2003, we were cheated by an incompetent TMO in 2007.
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
None. We’re not at our best in world cups.
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
2011 was to be our year. However, someone with a quintessentially Irish name, Alain was selected to referee against France. It was not that he was biased but Sam Warburton was red carded in the 19th minute when anyone who didn't have a quintessentially Irish name like Monsieur Alain Roland would have shown yellow. Yes it was a very careless off the ground tackle and Warburton should have seen ten minutes in the bin. Eventually a very poor France proceeded to the next round.
Not that I am bitter.
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
The commentator on the night called it one of the most controversial decisions in the history of the World Cup. Even today the Italian only got a yellow for a similar offence. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yLpptT_nCp0
The IRB had censured refs for failing to red card players for tip tackling all tournament. Every player who tip tackled during the tournament got a multi week ban.
There was a massive ref meeting prior to the semi finals where the IRB pointed out tip tackles where auto reds.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.
Nevertheless perhaps a more credible theory than that the Iranians had been sitting on a top secret load of test tubes containing Coronavirus and used the unrelated outbreak in China to release it by infecting a bunch of their own people?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?
Religious tourists possibly. The city of Qom in Iran, where the first deaths occurred, is a Shia Muslim shrine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.
Nevertheless perhaps a more credible theory than that the Iranians had been sitting on a top secret load of test tubes containing Coronavirus and used the unrelated outbreak in China to release it by infecting a bunch of their own people?
Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
He's definitely the favourite now!
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
The source is untraceable not the victims
The key point from the Mail story is that apparently only about half the Brits from the ship were on the flight destined for ‘Butlins Wirral’ with the remainder, variously, having:
- decided to stay on the ship - got fed up waiting for the UK rescue and gone on the flights to other countries, presumably then to make their own way home - refused the UK flight and quarantine as they wished to travel home themselves and be with family
which doesn’t bode well if, as happened in with the US and Japanese passengers off the same ship, a bunch of them subsequently become ill
It doesn't quite say that. Some people live abroad so I'm not sure why they would want to be airlifted to the UK. Others elected to stay with (presumably non-British) family members.
It was a text book red. Complaing about it isnlike being an England fan complaining about Cueto correctly being called in touch.
Now the 2015 world cup was a world cup where refereeing was perfect on every occasion.
First up against the wall when the revolution comes.
We'd have totally beaten Arg too given the rank performance they put in against Aus.
I'm hoping Craig Joubert backs Yes in any future Indyref, No would win a landslide.
The thing that grates about Joubert's absolute and total howler is that it overshadowed what an absolute and totally biased performance Joubert put in over the 80. A ref who never willing witnessed the lower ranked team beat the higher rank team.
Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
He's definitely the favourite now!
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.
I'm confused, if you're expecting Biden, Baemy and Buttigieg to drop out who do you expect to be left? Just Bloomberg? Seems unlikely to me.
I see. Well you learn something new each day. It's a wonderful country to visit apparently, the people are delightful and hospitable. Just not on the tourist trail I wouldn't have thought.
I'd not have thought so either, but I know several people who've been - as you say they like the people and it's much more cosmopolitan in eheran than one might expect, while offering a feast of cultural history.
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
He's definitely the favourite now!
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.
It's kind of weird to see the current delegate leader, who got that way *before* his lane consolidated, rated at only 11%. I think the markets are taking Bloomberg way too seriously.
I think KLOBUCHAR drops out unless she has an unexpected SURGE, she just doesn't have the money to compete nationwide. Then Biden and Buttigieg need to make a deal. That's easy if Biden does well in SC, he can give Buttigieg the VP slot and promise not to hang on if his health fails, and if he bombs it's also easy as he can't really go into Super Tuesday after losing everything.The problem is if Biden beats Buttigieg in SC but is still kind of meh, it's not really obvious what he can be offered to persuade him not to roll the dice on Super Tuesday.
Yes - that Peter Piot. That was a sensible discussion, reported well by the Mirror. None of the alarmist bullshit that Neil Ferguson is spouting on channel 4.
Peter accepts the inevitability of it spreading, notes that it seems more like H5N1 than SARS and worries about the ability of the NHS to cope with a pandemic.
Lol. Then I am happy to be in the same category as Dr Neil Ferguson, coronavirus expert at Imperial College London, as against the care home wage analysts of PB
Incidentally, if it does kill 1-2% of humanity, that means the virus is exactly following the plot of US drama series The Leftovers, where 1 in 50 people suddenly and inexplicably vanish. The series documents the strange and profound effects this might have on those that remain. It’s quite good.
He’s a theoretical epidemiologist. He’s been very active on Twitter since the beginning making silly statements and attracting attention
Almost as if panicking like a headless chicken attracts more attention than being calm and rational.
His personal interest is best served by becoming the media go to guy.
This is the person you should listen to (this particular statement is old but it was the first I pulled up with google). I’ll worry when he gets worried.
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
Well if Sanders wins Nevada tonight it will be the first state that he will win that he didn't last time.
That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
He's definitely the favourite now!
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.
It's kind of weird to see the current delegate leader, who got that way *before* his lane consolidated, rated at only 11%. I think the markets are taking Bloomberg way too seriously.
I think KLOBUCHAR drops out unless she has an unexpected SURGE, she just doesn't have the money to compete nationwide. Then Biden and Buttigieg need to make a deal. That's easy if Biden does well in SC, he can give Buttigieg the VP slot and promise not to hang on if his health fails, and if he bombs it's also easy as he can't really go into Super Tuesday after losing everything.The problem is if Biden beats Buttigieg in SC but is still kind of meh, it's not really obvious what he can be offered to persuade him not to roll the dice on Super Tuesday.
I'm guessing a Buttigieg/Klobuchar ticket is out of the question after the last debate?
Is Sanders really as certain to lose against Trump as the DNC fears?
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
Sean always gets in a flap.
I'm out in Malaysia at the moment. Fewer than 5% of people are wearing masks and the atmosphere is very chilled. Is that complacent? Not really.
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
Chillax dude.
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoever
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Yes, this highly engaged forum of politics geeks that follow the news will have not even HEARD of the number one news story of the last month had it not been for you.
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. .
No it isn't. I'm in Malaysia right now and fewer than 5% are wearing masks. Probably fewer than 1%. Everyone is going about their daily lives. Plenty of suggestion that the virus requires cold conditions to multiply but even I've been surprised by the nonchalance out here in a country with a considerable Chinese population.
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
Chillax dude.
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoever
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
Chillax dude.
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoever
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard
You're just a nasty snivelling little troll aren't you?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
Erm, how do they know they are there if they are "UNTRACEABLE"?
Unless it's an acronym.
That isn't what I take from it. What I take from it is how the heck does the disease pop up somewhere like that? Assuming it can't teleport. It's a conspiracy that needs a theory. Were the Iranians experimenting with the corona? Do they really have it or are they just using a fake outbreak to control society more and crack down on dissent? Is it an American bio weapon they are trying out on their enemies (in which case look out for it to hit Russia soon)?
Or just maybe it is possible to travel from China to Iran?
Who on earth travels from China to Iran?
China is 5he largest purchaser of Iranian oil.
And even if they weren’t, Chinese are present pretty well globally. Like we were a century or so back.
I am not a troll...I think that cruises represent the worst aspects of decadence...they are polluting hulks of metal where people consume vast quantities of resources...long haul trips to hunt wild animals are worse...but both appear top draw a certain type...
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
Chillax dude.
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoever
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
I really respect your knowledge and interest in this issue but maybe time to dial the panic down a bit
If it weren't for me, none of you would have even HEARD of this virus, and you'd still be talking about wage levels in care homes.
Now that is just plain silly.
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
Chillax dude.
I have perspective. See my earlier post today.
I reckon our best bet is just to accept this is going to happen, and tell people with the bug to stay home and take their chances. That way we do not savage the economy or crash the NHS.
In the end it will be the inevitable choice, if this does become a massive pandemic. And we will survive just fine.
In the meantime, this is the biggest news story in the world. Not commenting on remarkable developments is a bit daft, on a political betting website.
I hope you and Mrs Big G remain fit and well and go cruising for decades to come!
And now I have some grim domestic shit to deal with. Later.
Thank you but we have sailed our last cruise having been on many across the world and apart from visiting our eldest son and his wife in Vancouver in May, our international travel days are over and we have no regrets whatsoever
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard
Tyson. I could not care less about your insulting views and ignorance
OMG look, in news no-one expected, China now admits the virus did NOT start in Wuhan seafood market, which is just 200m from a laboratory investigating viruses in bats.
My God, where did this virus, which came from bats, actually originate?
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That will definitely break the log jam and make him the favourite.
Or at least, since the extraordinary talent that was Johnny Wilkinson who kicked you through the semi final and final retired?
Although to be fair, it’s not on at 5 in the morning in the US.
How many finals have the Welsh been to since 2003? Or indeed since 1987?
e.g. the 2nd fight from the top on the bill is basically two heavyweight nobodies, one of which AJ put away in 2 rounds. The 3rd fight includes a boxer doesn't even have a wikipedia page.
However, five Six Nations trophies to England’s three and four Grand Slams to England’s zero wave hello.
It can't happen can it?
Dramatic surge in UNTRACEABLE clusters of coronavirus cases around the world sparks dire warnings from disease experts that 'containment methods are not going to work'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8032385/Coronavirus-experts-say-NOT-rising-numbers-infections-fear.html
It's not on 5 live
Unless it's an acronym.
I guess the more disjointed way that boxing is governed and promoted (and all the massive egos involved) makes it more difficult to organise everyone around the same event.
Not that I am bitter.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yLpptT_nCp0
Now we *urgh* rely upon Manchester United winning at Old Trafford in order to get the title at Goodison. Urgh.
- decided to stay on the ship
- got fed up waiting for the UK rescue and gone on the flights to other countries, presumably then to make their own way home
- refused the UK flight and quarantine as they wished to travel home themselves and be with family
which doesn’t bode well if, as happened in with the US and Japanese passengers off the same ship, a bunch of them subsequently become ill
What mad kind of question is that?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qom
Also, both countries are on the old Silk Road, lots of trade between them.
There was a massive ref meeting prior to the semi finals where the IRB pointed out tip tackles where auto reds.
My current view is that unless you see at least one, and possibly two, of Biden, Bloomberg, Buttigieg and Baemy drop out before Super Tuesday, then Sanders is the nominee.
Indeed, even if one drops out, I think he remains favourite.
That being said, I think the internal pressure on the four moderates to come to some kind of arrangement is going to be absolutely enormous. Buttigieg, for example, will probably be offered DNC support for a competitive Senate seat in 2020.
So, I'm going to go out on a limb and forecast that neither Baemy not Biden contests the Super Tuesday states.
We'd have totally beaten Arg too given the rank performance they put in against Aus.
https://www.facebook.com/248910050965/posts/10156664992290966/?sfnsn=scwspwa&extid=F7JNfpqSkkEkHFw8&d=w&vh=e
That said, I wouldn't set off there right now...
I think KLOBUCHAR drops out unless she has an unexpected SURGE, she just doesn't have the money to compete nationwide. Then Biden and Buttigieg need to make a deal. That's easy if Biden does well in SC, he can give Buttigieg the VP slot and promise not to hang on if his health fails, and if he bombs it's also easy as he can't really go into Super Tuesday after losing everything.The problem is if Biden beats Buttigieg in SC but is still kind of meh, it's not really obvious what he can be offered to persuade him not to roll the dice on Super Tuesday.
Yes - that Peter Piot. That was a sensible discussion, reported well by the Mirror. None of the alarmist bullshit that Neil Ferguson is spouting on channel 4.
Peter accepts the inevitability of it spreading, notes that it seems more like H5N1 than SARS and worries about the ability of the NHS to cope with a pandemic.
Rational and reasonable in my view
Diamond Princess at the heart of the issue is a ship my wife and I have spent 33 days on between Canada and China in the last five years and we have followed the crisis on board daily
Furthermore your comment insults the intelligence of posters on this forum
You need to get a sense of perspective or lose creditabilty
Is Sanders really as certain to lose against Trump as the DNC fears?
I'm out in Malaysia at the moment. Fewer than 5% of people are wearing masks and the atmosphere is very chilled. Is that complacent? Not really.
Indeed there is nowhere left we want to visit to be fair
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I really do believe that cruises are quite disgusting...and if any good comes out of the Conavirus it is to hit this sickening business that caters for geriatric Tories hard
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/1231313073039958023
And even if they weren’t, Chinese are present pretty well globally. Like we were a century or so back.
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I am not a troll...I think that cruises represent the worst aspects of decadence...they are polluting hulks of metal where people consume vast quantities of resources...long haul trips to hunt wild animals are worse...but both appear top draw a certain type...