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He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.0
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Thankskle4 said:
It'll be on the main gov.uk site like so.TOPPING said:
Thanks is there a govt website or crown one whereon it's listed?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tonight apparently.TOPPING said:
When is it all announced?TheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-20190 -
It's the other way around. A few really good / excellent lawyers. A reasonable number of competent - if unimaginative - ones.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes but in my defence there are so few bad lawyers in the world. Ahem.Cyclefree said:ydoethur said:
There is no space-time continuum that would be improved by having Richard Burgon in government.TheScreamingEagles said:
What we need is more lawyers in government.Cyclefree said:You can still get 33/1 on him on Ladbrokes.
Whenever I’ve heard him he has not particularly impressed me. A bit of an automaton in the way he speaks. And, groan, another ex-GS alumni. Bad enough having an ex-DB banker as Chancellor. The amount of damage those two firms have caused ........
I think @TheScreamingEagles meant to say that we need more good lawyers in government.
Lots of plodding ones and some absolute shockers.
The Venn diagram of intelligent lawyers and lawyers with common-sense has a surprisingly small intersection.0 -
Congrats on the newborn isam.isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
Condolences to all those on the list who had sad news this year.0 -
You sound like one of my tutors.Cyclefree said:
It's the other way around. A few really good / excellent lawyers. A reasonable number of competent - if unimaginative - ones.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes but in my defence there are so few bad lawyers in the world. Ahem.Cyclefree said:ydoethur said:
There is no space-time continuum that would be improved by having Richard Burgon in government.TheScreamingEagles said:
What we need is more lawyers in government.Cyclefree said:You can still get 33/1 on him on Ladbrokes.
Whenever I’ve heard him he has not particularly impressed me. A bit of an automaton in the way he speaks. And, groan, another ex-GS alumni. Bad enough having an ex-DB banker as Chancellor. The amount of damage those two firms have caused ........
I think @TheScreamingEagles meant to say that we need more good lawyers in government.
Lots of plodding ones and some absolute shockers.
The Venn diagram of intelligent lawyers and lawyers with common-sense has a surprisingly small intersection.
'The law and justice are not the same thing.'0 -
Sir Alastair Cook!kle4 said:
It'll be on the main gov.uk site like so.TOPPING said:
Thanks is there a govt website or crown one whereon it's listed?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tonight apparently.TOPPING said:
When is it all announced?TheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-2019
Sir John Redwood MP0 -
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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That was last year?Sandpit said:
Sir Alastair Cook!kle4 said:
It'll be on the main gov.uk site like so.TOPPING said:
Thanks is there a govt website or crown one whereon it's listed?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tonight apparently.TOPPING said:
When is it all announced?TheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-20190 -
HYUFD said:
Solo has a 70% rating, which tells you how bad the Cats film is to get just 17%ydoethur said:
Blimey. It must be very nearly as bad as Solo then.HYUFD said:
It currently has a 17% favourable rating on Rotten Tomatoesydoethur said:
Wouldn’t know, haven’t seen cats. Well, other than my two, obviously.HYUFD said:
I think you mean Cats rather than The Last Jediydoethur said:
That’s an extremely generous interpretation of their position.TheScreamingEagles said:
He did, which is a shame as Cambridge is well known and well honoured for producing alumni who fight against fascism.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Didn't Nick Griffin go to Cambridge?TheScreamingEagles said:
I’ve actually got an explanation for how Richard Burgon was accepted into St John’s.ydoethur said:
There is no space-time continuum that would be improved by having Richard Burgon in government.TheScreamingEagles said:
What we need is more lawyers in government.Cyclefree said:You can still get 33/1 on him on Ladbrokes.
Whenever I’ve heard him he has not particularly impressed me. A bit of an automaton in the way he speaks. And, groan, another ex-GS alumni. Bad enough having an ex-DB banker as Chancellor. The amount of damage those two firms have caused ........
My friend’s brother was also at St John’s at the same time as Burgon and that Burgon was very good at English literature but he was a proper lefty (his uncle was a Labour MP) and that Burgon engaged in some shocking logic defying positions to support a left wing agenda, which has become worse with age.
He may have done it to impress a lady as well but he ended up as Chairman of CULC.
So the issue isn’t Cambridge letting in a duffer but the law firms that hired Burgon.
https://nyti.ms/2Q0slra
Almost as generous as a review that gives The Last Jedi one star out of five rather than a minus number.
"Solo" is decent enough but ended up bearing the brunt of "The Last Jedi" backlash by being released just five months later.0 -
The Room (Tommy Wiseau version) has a 30% rating.ydoethur said:
Blimey. It must be very nearly as bad as Solo then.HYUFD said:
It currently has a 17% favourable rating on Rotten Tomatoesydoethur said:
Wouldn’t know, haven’t seen cats. Well, other than my two, obviously.HYUFD said:
I think you mean Cats rather than The Last Jediydoethur said:
That’s an extremely generous interpretation of their position.TheScreamingEagles said:
He did, which is a shame as Cambridge is well known and well honoured for producing alumni who fight against fascism.Sunil_Prasannan said:
Didn't Nick Griffin go to Cambridge?TheScreamingEagles said:
I’ve actually got an explanation for how Richard Burgon was accepted into St John’s.ydoethur said:
There is no space-time continuum that would be improved by having Richard Burgon in government.TheScreamingEagles said:
What we need is more lawyers in government.Cyclefree said:You can still get 33/1 on him on Ladbrokes.
Whenever I’ve heard him he has not particularly impressed me. A bit of an automaton in the way he speaks. And, groan, another ex-GS alumni. Bad enough having an ex-DB banker as Chancellor. The amount of damage those two firms have caused ........
My friend’s brother was also at St John’s at the same time as Burgon and that Burgon was very good at English literature but he was a proper lefty (his uncle was a Labour MP) and that Burgon engaged in some shocking logic defying positions to support a left wing agenda, which has become worse with age.
He may have done it to impress a lady as well but he ended up as Chairman of CULC.
So the issue isn’t Cambridge letting in a duffer but the law firms that hired Burgon.
https://nyti.ms/2Q0slra
Almost as generous as a review that gives The Last Jedi one star out of five rather than a minus number.0 -
Good.TheScreamingEagles said:So that Guardian front page does confirm a knighthood for IDS.
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So Boris Johnson can find the time to award Iain Duncan Smith a knighthood but not Ken Clarke a peerage nor a knighthood.1
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Damn. That link is to last year’s bloody honours list!TheScreamingEagles said:
That was last year?Sandpit said:
Sir Alastair Cook!kle4 said:
It'll be on the main gov.uk site like so.TOPPING said:
Thanks is there a govt website or crown one whereon it's listed?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tonight apparently.TOPPING said:
When is it all announced?TheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-20190 -
So why did Watson not have the balls to defect with the others?TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
Because he prized his position in the hierarchy above his integrity or even apparently his personal safety.
What a chump.2 -
I'm amazed he restrained himself from awarding himself a knighthood.TheScreamingEagles said:So Boris Johnson can find the time to award Iain Duncan Smith a knighthood but not Ken Clarke a peerage nor a knighthood.
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Well no. Boris has not worked in the City. I doubt he does anything by spreadsheet and he does have a way of communicating with people outside his inner circle which Sunak has shown precious little evidence of. So far.TOPPING said:
All of which more or less you could have said, and many did, about Boris. We've moved on from there I think.Cyclefree said:
A filthy rich ex-GS banker will have such an understanding of the issues for people living in towns like Millom and Workington and Barrow, won’t he?Nigelb said:
Doesn’t harm that he’s filthy rich, though.Cyclefree said:You can still get 33/1 on him on Ladbrokes.
Whenever I’ve heard him he has not particularly impressed me. A bit of an automaton in the way he speaks. And, groan, another ex-GS alumni. Bad enough having an ex-DB banker as Chancellor. The amount of damage those two firms have caused ........
You can’t make sensible public policy just by looking at a spreadsheet.
Whatever makes Boris special - and I am largely immune to his charms but am not his target audience - we should not assume that it will transfer itself to other Tories.
I have a long shot (very long shot) idea of who might be worth looking at. But you will need to wait for my next header or one after to find out.
Brain working v slowly atm inbetween sleeps and dosage. Hence non-appearance of headers.0 -
I read an article that stated that if Watson had left to join the TIG's 80 other Labour MPs would have gone as well.ydoethur said:
So why did Watson not have the balls to defect with the others?TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
Because he prized his position in the hierarchy above his integrity or even apparently his personal safety.
What a chump.0 -
Dame TwiggySandpit said:
Sir Alastair Cook!kle4 said:
It'll be on the main gov.uk site like so.TOPPING said:
Thanks is there a govt website or crown one whereon it's listed?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tonight apparently.TOPPING said:
When is it all announced?TheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-2019
Sir John Redwood MP
There are 1,150 of them!0 -
In which case we might have been looking at a genuine realignment.ralphmalph said:
I read an article that stated that if Watson had left to join the TIG's 80 other Labour MPs would have gone as well.ydoethur said:
So why did Watson not have the balls to defect with the others?TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
Because he prized his position in the hierarchy above his integrity or even apparently his personal safety.
What a chump.
Although you take such claims with a pinch of salt, of course,0 -
Oh what lovely news! Many congratulations!isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
Condolences to all those on the list who had sad news this year.1 -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513607/How-Tom-Watson-pressured-Met-pursue-false-rape-allegations-against-Leon-Brittan.htmlydoethur said:
So why did Watson not have the balls to defect with the others?TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
Because he prized his position in the hierarchy above his integrity or even apparently his personal safety.
What a chump.
The damning Leon Brittan files: After the former Home Secretary was hounded by police on his death bed, we reveal how Tom Watson pressured the Met to pursue false rape allegations - despite his accuser being a known liar and Labour activist.0 -
Indeed there were. Last year.Barnesian said:
Dame TwiggySandpit said:
Sir Alastair Cook!kle4 said:
It'll be on the main gov.uk site like so.TOPPING said:
Thanks is there a govt website or crown one whereon it's listed?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tonight apparently.TOPPING said:
When is it all announced?TheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-2019
Sir John Redwood MP
There are 1,150 of them!0 -
RightSandpit said:
Indeed there were. Last year.Barnesian said:
Dame TwiggySandpit said:
Sir Alastair Cook!kle4 said:
It'll be on the main gov.uk site like so.TOPPING said:
Thanks is there a govt website or crown one whereon it's listed?TheScreamingEagles said:
Tonight apparently.TOPPING said:
When is it all announced?TheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-years-honours-list-2019
Sir John Redwood MP
There are 1,150 of them!0 -
I don’t blame him for giving up, but rather for clinging on for so long for no benefit whatsoever.TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
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There were several comments to that effect. He’s the one person who, if they’d gone, would have split the Parliamentary party in half. He could have been LotO if he’d got 120 MPs to join with him.ralphmalph said:
I read an article that stated that if Watson had left to join the TIG's 80 other Labour MPs would have gone as well.ydoethur said:
So why did Watson not have the balls to defect with the others?TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
Because he prized his position in the hierarchy above his integrity or even apparently his personal safety.
What a chump.1 -
Ken Clarke would now be more likely to be a LD peer than a Tory peerTheScreamingEagles said:So Boris Johnson can find the time to award Iain Duncan Smith a knighthood but not Ken Clarke a peerage nor a knighthood.
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He believed in the brand more than anything else. So long as he can admit that, fine, but it's not much use saying how dreadful it was when he gave up the fight, but conveniently only after convincing others to keep going in the fight.Sandpit said:
There were several comments to that effect. He’s the one person who, if they’d gone, would have split the Parliamentary party in half. He could have been LotO if he’d got 120 MPs to join with him.ralphmalph said:
I read an article that stated that if Watson had left to join the TIG's 80 other Labour MPs would have gone as well.ydoethur said:
So why did Watson not have the balls to defect with the others?TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
Because he prized his position in the hierarchy above his integrity or even apparently his personal safety.
What a chump.0 -
I am quite sure I could teach you a thing or two ........TheScreamingEagles said:
You sound like one of my tutors.Cyclefree said:
It's the other way around. A few really good / excellent lawyers. A reasonable number of competent - if unimaginative - ones.TheScreamingEagles said:
Yes but in my defence there are so few bad lawyers in the world. Ahem.Cyclefree said:ydoethur said:
There is no space-time continuum that would be improved by having Richard Burgon in government.TheScreamingEagles said:
What we need is more lawyers in government.Cyclefree said:You can still get 33/1 on him on Ladbrokes.
Whenever I’ve heard him he has not particularly impressed me. A bit of an automaton in the way he speaks. And, groan, another ex-GS alumni. Bad enough having an ex-DB banker as Chancellor. The amount of damage those two firms have caused ........
I think @TheScreamingEagles meant to say that we need more good lawyers in government.
Lots of plodding ones and some absolute shockers.
The Venn diagram of intelligent lawyers and lawyers with common-sense has a surprisingly small intersection.
'The law and justice are not the same thing.'
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This. That he was staying to fight made sense, even if many outside Labour felt he should not. But he just worked to prevent a deeper split then buggered off, so what was even the point?Nigelb said:
I don’t blame him for giving up, but rather for clinging on for so long for no benefit whatsoever.TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
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Despite several goes, Boris never had the political problem of a father in law numbered among the world’s richest men...TOPPING said:
All of which more or less you could have said, and many did, about Boris. We've moved on from there I think.Cyclefree said:
A filthy rich ex-GS banker will have such an understanding of the issues for people living in towns like Millom and Workington and Barrow, won’t he?Nigelb said:
Doesn’t harm that he’s filthy rich, though.Cyclefree said:You can still get 33/1 on him on Ladbrokes.
Whenever I’ve heard him he has not particularly impressed me. A bit of an automaton in the way he speaks. And, groan, another ex-GS alumni. Bad enough having an ex-DB banker as Chancellor. The amount of damage those two firms have caused ........
You can’t make sensible public policy just by looking at a spreadsheet.
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'his social justice campaigns'MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
There's an outside chance HYUFD may be the deepest of deep cover ironists.0 -
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Congratulations isam !1
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Political knighthoods are often reserved for complete duffers, so I can’t get much worked up about it.Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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I assume the official honours list will be published tonight on the Cabinet Office site. https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/cabinet-office
Obviously the newspapers have already seen embargoed copies.0 -
If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.0 -
My understanding is that the issues with UC were not due to the system itself, but the fact that Osborne chose to coincide it with big cuts to welfare.Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?0 -
Harsh, but fair.TheScreamingEagles said:3 -
I fear the extent your naughtiness has been such that even intervention from me will be fruitless.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?0 -
Bugger.JohnO said:
I fear the extent your naughtiness has been such that even intervention from me will be fruitless.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?
Never mind, I shall treat you to lunch in the new year though.1 -
The road to rehabilitation and restitution begins here. Nothing is too good for the working classes....and their representatives.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bugger.JohnO said:
I fear the extent your naughtiness has been such that even intervention from me will be fruitless.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?
Never mind, I shall treat you to lunch in the new year though.0 -
Nothing a few grovelling paeans to Boris during the next TSE editorship could not solve. Damn integrity thoughJohnO said:
I fear the extent your naughtiness has been such that even intervention from me will be fruitless.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?0 -
I have to spend four whole days in London for work in March, I'm sure I can find a suitable eatery that meets our exacting standards.JohnO said:
The road to rehabilitation and restitution begins here. Nothing is too good for the working classes....and their representatives.TheScreamingEagles said:
Bugger.JohnO said:
I fear the extent your naughtiness has been such that even intervention from me will be fruitless.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?
Never mind, I shall treat you to lunch in the new year though.0 -
There's a piece that's about 40% written that compares a Boris Johnson Premiership to getting a prostate exam from a leper who walks away with four fingers.kle4 said:
Nothing a few grovelling paeans to Boris during the next TSE editorship could not solve. Damn integrity thoughJohnO said:
I fear the extent your naughtiness has been such that even intervention from me will be fruitless.TheScreamingEagles said:
Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?0 -
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Sir John Major has not been an MP for more than 18 years.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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You really are nothing more than a party mouthpiece these days.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Wolves 3 Man City 2 89 mins1
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Hurrah for Wolves...0
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Squeaky bum time for those who followed you in.JBriskinindyref2 said:Wolves 3 Man City 2 89 mins
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I wasn t the star tipsterDecrepiterJohnL said:
Squeaky bum time for those who followed you in.JBriskinindyref2 said:Wolves 3 Man City 2 89 mins
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I correctly predicted Boris would be Tory leader and I correctly predicted Boris would win a Tory majority, if that makes me a party mouthpiece so be itNigelb said:
You really are nothing more than a party mouthpiece these days.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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He is still a former Conservative PM criticising the current oneydoethur said:
Sir John Major has not been an MP for more than 18 years.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Full time - I ve forgot who tipped at 75/1 but well done sir2
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PMs are supposed to be immune from party criticism?HYUFD said:
He is still a former Conservative PM criticising the current oneydoethur said:
Sir John Major has not been an MP for more than 18 years.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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It's possible to be one without the other.HYUFD said:
I correctly predicted Boris would be Tory leader and I correctly predicted Boris would win a Tory majority, if that makes me a party mouthpiece so be itNigelb said:
You really are nothing more than a party mouthpiece these days.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Twas I.JBriskinindyref2 said:Full time - I ve forgot who tipped at 75/1 but well done sir
£10 at 75/1. Also had a fiver on Wolves to win at 8.2. Tipped them both up here. Hope others backed it.
My longest-priced winner ever.3 -
Labour continue to surprise on the downside
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/27/tom-watson-reveals-quit-labour-due-brutality-hostility-within/0 -
One of the questions at my Admiralty Board in 1988 was "Where do you think the next major conflict will start?". I answered at random, "the Spratly Islands" because I'd read about them the week before in the Times and it was the first thing that came into my head. Perhaps, I'll eventually be right!Morris_Dancer said:Seems quite relevant, though an old tweet:
https://twitter.com/simongerman600/status/1097468280669917184
If I had answered 'Kuwait' or 'Yugoslavia' (the two most accurate answers) they would have probably told me to fuck off.0 -
Form their predecessors from their own party in public yes, John Major had respected that principle until nowkle4 said:
PMs are supposed to be immune from party criticism?HYUFD said:
He is still a former Conservative PM criticising the current oneydoethur said:
Sir John Major has not been an MP for more than 18 years.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Well done - I had a fiver on Man City ftrStocky said:
Twas I.JBriskinindyref2 said:Full time - I ve forgot who tipped at 75/1 but well done sir
£10 at 75/1. Also had a fiver on Wolves to win at 8.2. Tipped them both up here. Hope others backed it.
My longest-priced winner ever.
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Why would you want a God Calls Me God?TheScreamingEagles said:
Hope you put in a good word for my GCMG.JohnO said:If Ken Clarke gets a peerage, it will be via the Dissolution Honours.
Like my Dukedom.
But if Dave didn't give me a GCMG I've got no hope from Boris Johnson have I?0 -
HYUFD is a worthy commenter, with much insight, who is seldom as rude to his detractors, as they are to him.
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or Tom Watson, tried to hand on to all the power he could, but left when he realised his own seat was going to go to the conservatives he quit, to claim and decided it would look better to claim it was a principled position, not just that he had run out of track?Floater said:Labour continue to surprise on the downside
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/27/tom-watson-reveals-quit-labour-due-brutality-hostility-within/1 -
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7513607/How-Tom-Watson-pressured-Met-pursue-false-rape-allegations-against-Leon-Brittan.htmlBigRich said:
or Tom Watson, tried to hand on to all the power he could, but left when he realised his own seat was going to go to the conservatives he quit, to claim and decided it would look better to claim it was a principled position, not just that he had run out of track?Floater said:Labour continue to surprise on the downside
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/27/tom-watson-reveals-quit-labour-due-brutality-hostility-within/
The damning Leon Brittan files: After the former Home Secretary was hounded by police on his death bed, we reveal how Tom Watson pressured the Met to pursue false rape allegations - despite his accuser being a known liar and Labour activist.2 -
Jolyon going global ... featured on BBC World Service News bulletin.0
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The problems created by osbourne removing the funding IDS said was and is requiredCyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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OT Tee hee: The Mayor Pete campaign is trying to come up with ways to get people to send them smaller donations
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4agdwg/pete-buttigieg-would-really-like-you-to-forget-about-that-wine-cave?__twitter_impression=true0 -
Amusing to see James Chapman referenced earlier today.
I remember when he was the flavour of the week on PB from:
http://www2.politicalbetting.com/index.php/archives/2017/08/10/meet-the-ex-chief-of-staff-to-the-brexsec-now-the-de-facto-brexit-opposition-leader/
to
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OK. So Osborne is also to blame.eek said:
The problems created by osbourne removing the funding IDS said was and is requiredCyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
So you design a system which only works if £X amount is spent. You are not given £X but a smaller sum which will cause problems for some of the poorest in the country?
You can either carry on implementing a system with inadequate money while knowing of the problems. Or you can resign.
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I much admire Tom W for his work in the online openness space, but I am not really sure about the polo neck.ydoethur said:
In which case we might have been looking at a genuine realignment.ralphmalph said:
I read an article that stated that if Watson had left to join the TIG's 80 other Labour MPs would have gone as well.ydoethur said:
So why did Watson not have the balls to defect with the others?TheScreamingEagles said:He [Tom Watson] said at one point police told him that a Labour supporter had been arrested for making a death threat via the party that Labour officials did not inform him about.
Because he prized his position in the hierarchy above his integrity or even apparently his personal safety.
What a chump.
Although you take such claims with a pinch of salt, of course,
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/2019/dec/27/tom-watson-i-quit-because-of-labour-brutality
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For services to killing poor people?TheScreamingEagles said:So that Guardian front page does confirm a knighthood for IDS.
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The UC system is fucked by design. If you get paid early in a month (say for instance December) the UC system sees that as an increase in your pay and so automatically cuts your UC payment for that month.Luckyguy1983 said:
My understanding is that the issues with UC were not due to the system itself, but the fact that Osborne chose to coincide it with big cuts to welfare.Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
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Is this one of these new "constitutional principles" which has been invented JR-M style?HYUFD said:
Form their predecessors from their own party in public yes, John Major had respected that principle until nowkle4 said:
PMs are supposed to be immune from party criticism?HYUFD said:
He is still a former Conservative PM criticising the current oneydoethur said:
Sir John Major has not been an MP for more than 18 years.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
Have you forgotten Heath criticising Mrs T?
Or even MacMillan doing so very publicly in the House of Lords?
Or Mrs T criticising the policies of her predecessors?
And letting her criticisms of John Major be known?
Yes - it appears you have.0 -
Hurrah for Wolves...
Surely these baubles have been so degraded now that only the most debased still crave their precious?Alistair said:
For services to killing poor people?TheScreamingEagles said:So that Guardian front page does confirm a knighthood for IDS.
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They have. No-one would care, were it not for the fact that in some cases it gives these debased boobies the right to legislate for us.Foxy said:Hurrah for Wolves...
Surely these baubles have been so degraded now that only the most debased still crave their precious?Alistair said:
For services to killing poor people?TheScreamingEagles said:So that Guardian front page does confirm a knighthood for IDS.
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Congratulations, @isam, happy news! Please tell me you called him @himsam ....isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
Condolences to all those on the list who had sad news this year.0 -
HYUFD and I have had many disagreements, despite both being members of the conservative party, but I agree totally with these sentimentsStocky said:
Well said - though I would have substituted "seldom" with "never".Byronic said:HYUFD is a worthy commenter, with much insight, who is seldom as rude to his detractors, as they are to him.
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There are quite a few on this forum in that category to be fairAlistair said:
Civility is an overrated virtue when you are speaking to someone who will never, ever admit to be wrong on even the smallest point of fact.Byronic said:HYUFD is a worthy commenter, with much insight, who is seldom as rude to his detractors, as they are to him.
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No, that is not what makes you a mouthpiece. You are often a commenter of some insight, which is why I bother tweaking your tail from time to time.HYUFD said:
I correctly predicted Boris would be Tory leader and I correctly predicted Boris would win a Tory majority, if that makes me a party mouthpiece so be itNigelb said:
You really are nothing more than a party mouthpiece these days.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
It is your slavish and incessant regurgitation of whatever the current party line of the day happens to be that bothers me.1 -
My significant event in 2019, if you`re interested, was a spinal cord injury (skiing) in Feb which left me in Grenoble hospital for a week and then having to wear a top-of-head-to-chest neck brace for two months. Was looking at disablement for a while - a dark time - I couldn`t lift either hand above my head. Couldn`t dress or shower myself.viewcode said:
Congratulations, @isam, happy news! Please tell me you called him @himsam ....isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
Condolences to all those on the list who had sad news this year.
With physio help (not NHS - they were shit) my recovery has been remarkable.
Mobility fully regained, in gym twice a week and I went skiing again last week.
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First post for a whileHYUFD said:
I correctly predicted Boris would be Tory leader and I correctly predicted Boris would win a Tory majority, if that makes me a party mouthpiece so be itNigelb said:
You really are nothing more than a party mouthpiece these days.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
I'm confused by that response HYUFD. What has predicting a result got to do with who you support? How did your response have anything to do with the point being made?
Does that mean that when you predict an opponent winning you will change sides? Unless it does the post does not make any logical sense.
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My main event, if it counts, is that my mum won Redbridge in Bloom for her front garden.viewcode said:
Congratulations, @isam, happy news! Please tell me you called him @himsam ....isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
Condolences to all those on the list who had sad news this year.3 -
Fox Jr is now earning, and off my hands financially this year. Mixed feelings at the end of an era...Sunil_Prasannan said:
My main event, if it counts, is that my mum won Redbridge in Bloom for her front garden.viewcode said:
Congratulations, @isam, happy news! Please tell me you called him @himsam ....isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
Condolences to all those on the list who had sad news this year.0 -
So civility is to be abandoned in the face of -Big_G_NorthWales said:
There are quite a few on this forum in that category to be fairAlistair said:
Civility is an overrated virtue when you are speaking to someone who will never, ever admit to be wrong on even the smallest point of fact.Byronic said:HYUFD is a worthy commenter, with much insight, who is seldom as rude to his detractors, as they are to him.
1) Religion
2) Nationalism
3) Personal fundamental convictions
When exactly *should* we apply civility?
I would suggest that the more rigid the beliefs, the more civility is required.0 -
Hope everyone has had a good Christmas, I've been off the site primarily playing lego and jigsaws with my children. Spent Christmas evening building my 3 year old's Lego Toy Story 4 sets only to wake up Boxing Day morning to find she'd taken it apart back to its pieces. Feels rather akin actually to arguing politics online
Nice to see my tip was value and has been followed and surprised and honoured to log on tonight to see OGH mentioning it like this.
Oh and great to see Wolves beat City. 14 points and a game in hand - wow!1 -
It was a good call. Are you inclined to take profits ?Philip_Thompson said:Hope everyone has had a good Christmas, I've been off the site primarily playing lego and jigsaws with my children. Spent Christmas evening building my 3 year old's Lego Toy Story 4 sets only to wake up Boxing Day morning to find she'd taken it apart back to its pieces. Feels rather akin actually to arguing politics online
Nice to see my tip was value and has been followed and surprised and honoured to log on tonight to see OGH mentioning it like this.
Oh and great to see Wolves beat City. 14 points and a game in hand - wow!0 -
I’ve been playing lego on my own. Great Wall of China from my beloved. Sadly she’s out forPhilip_Thompson said:Hope everyone has had a good Christmas, I've been off the site primarily playing lego and jigsaws with my children. Spent Christmas evening building my 3 year old's Lego Toy Story 4 sets only to wake up Boxing Day morning to find she'd taken it apart back to its pieces. Feels rather akin actually to arguing politics online
Nice to see my tip was value and has been followed and surprised and honoured to log on tonight to see OGH mentioning it like this.
Oh and great to see Wolves beat City. 14 points and a game in hand - wow!
the count with the norovirus, which took me out on Christmas Eve.0 -
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If the day he was born had been the day we left the EU, as promised, I had floated ‘Independence’ as a middle name 🤓viewcode said:
Congratulations, @isam, happy news! Please tell me you called him @himsam ....isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
Condolences to all those on the list who had sad news this year.
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Indy Isam and the PB of Doom...isam said:.
If the day he was born had been the day we left the EU, as promised, I had floated ‘Independence’ as a middle name...viewcode said:
Congratulations, @isam, happy news! Please tell me you called him @himsam ....isam said:I see @viewcode is compiling a list of things that happened to people who comment on here in 2019. Well, my first child, a son, was born on November 1st. Leading up to the big day I had thought it would be a happy coincidence if we left the EU at 11pm on October 31st, as the government had said we would, making him one of the first British children to be born a non EU citizen for forty odd years... but it wasn't to be.
It's not that detail that keeps me up at night though!
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I believe you, but I also understand it has replaced around 20 (?) other benefits. Therefore I think it is more likely that governments will work to fix UC than to go back to the system as it was.Alistair said:
The UC system is fucked by design. If you get paid early in a month (say for instance December) the UC system sees that as an increase in your pay and so automatically cuts your UC payment for that month.Luckyguy1983 said:
My understanding is that the issues with UC were not due to the system itself, but the fact that Osborne chose to coincide it with big cuts to welfare.Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
There was a good programme I happened to listen to on Radio 4 about this.0 -
(A) very low chance and I’d imagine many will have their hands dipped in blood anyway.rcs1000 said:
(a) Boris is rapid failure, and is ejected by his party in the next five years. Chance: very small. Result: a current senior Cabinet Minister is next PM.Charles said:The biggest advantage he has is time
If Boris is a success he has 5-10 years as PM, by which time Rishi will be a senior Cabinet minister while the Javids and Patels of the world will be long in the tooth
If Boris is a failure then you are likely not getting a Tory next PM anyway
(b) Boris is a slightly less rapid failure and is dumped by the electorate in 2024. Chance: a bit higher. Result: a non-Conservative is next PM.
(c) Boris is a relative success and hands over in the next Parliament. Chance: reasonable. Result: someone who is not currently a senior Cabinet Minister becomes PM.
Personally, I'd simply sell the favourites right now.
(B) agreed
(C) that’s where Rishi is in the sweet spot I think. In 7 years he will be seasoned but not jaded. Even most of the people on this site don’t know who he is!0 -
RT ticker - one million Irish passports issued in 2019 amid Brexit concerns0
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It s all about prediction this site - the more you re right the more kudoskjh said:
First post for a whileHYUFD said:
I correctly predicted Boris would be Tory leader and I correctly predicted Boris would win a Tory majority, if that makes me a party mouthpiece so be itNigelb said:
You really are nothing more than a party mouthpiece these days.HYUFD said:
John Major has been disloyal to Boris and in retrospect IDS was right to oppose Maastricht and also the lack of proper funding for universal credit from Cameron and Osborne, even so unemployment is half the level Labour left in 2010Cyclefree said:
@HYUFD conveniently forgets IDS's serial disloyalty to two Prime Ministers and the problems with Universal Credit.MightyAlex said:
You really are a lickspittle.HYUFD said:
Fair reward for his leadership of the party, his social justice campaigns and holding Chingford and Woodford Green against the Momentum onslaught. Well done Sir IainTheScreamingEagles said:According to Twitter (so caveat emptor) Iain Duncan Smith is being awarded a knighthood.
I'm confused by that response HYUFD. What has predicting a result got to do with who you support? How did your response have anything to do with the point being made?
Does that mean that when you predict an opponent winning you will change sides? Unless it does the post does not make any logical sense.
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Travolta to get a Damehood...TheScreamingEagles said:Ahem.
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