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Wansbeck swing required over 12%0
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If it’s right that this is more about Corbyn than Brexit, we can expect to see differential swing against Corbynistas.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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Excellent news.Pulpstar said:Alliance 1000 ahead on North Down
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Geordie landPulpstar said:
Where is Wansbecktlg86 said:
Oh dear, I'm in big trouble at work...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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Well the Conservatives have promised to close down the station.Philip_Thompson said:
Are they in mourning?ozymandias said:Just switched on Channel 4. What a state.
Gentler politics personified.0 -
Oh they’re positively venomous. In tears. It’s funny. Leftie comedians in outrage.Philip_Thompson said:
Are they in mourning?ozymandias said:Just switched on Channel 4. What a state.
Gentler politics personified.
Pouring myself a drink and watching. Best fun in ages.0 -
This was Corbyn's election. He was leader. He wrote the manifesto. He set strategy. This is his result. He needs to take responsibility, go and take the bubble with him.Winstanley said:
I find this bizarre, having sat on a polling station all day where people kept wanting to talk about Brexit, how they'd already voted for Brexit, etc. Nobody is turning up going 'what we want is PFI and less public ownership'. It isn't an accident that the Tory campaign can be reduced to the word 'Brexit'.Jonathan said:
He was 'neutral' on Brexit. That is a fence fully inserted.Winstanley said:
He didn't sit on the fence. He campaigned (well imo) for Remain in the referendum. According to the Ashcroft poll 64% of Labour supporters voted Remain, compared to 68% of LDs it ain't bad. Especially considering polls under Miliband had 50% of Labour voters in favour of Brexit (at the time Tom Watson was campaigning forvan EU ref let's remember). The data to pin it on Corbyn isn't there, he just tried to get the party to accept the referendum was lost after it was lost.Jonathan said:
* Corbyn sat on the fence on Brexit at the key moment, tried to triangulate the issue, confused and annoyed everyone and could not lay a finger on the Tories.Winstanley said:
What's the difference between now and 2017? Labour commitment to a second referendum.Jonathan said:The SNP is the answer to the idea that it was Brexit alone that caused Labour to lose.
This is all about Corbyn, Milne and their cult.
* The total catastrophic mishandling of antisemitism in the party .
* Much of the 2019 manifesto lacked credibility, whereas the 2017 manifesto borrowed heavily from 1997.
Antisemitism scandal was arguably worse in 2017, with Ken and the mural etc. For all the talk, Labour has beefed up it's disciplinary response.
Some of 2019 was easily ridiculed, sure. But the main thrust, of patching up disintegrating public realm through taxation of the wealthy, public ownership of key utilities etc., the things that Corbyn is keen on and which wouldn't have been there under any other potential leader, are popular.
It'll never be settled obviously. Brexit is the defining fact of probably the next few decades so there's no use imagining what the Corbyn moment could have been without such a relentless focus on it.
You really need to wake up. Corbyn was utterly toxic and tone deaf beyond his core vote. He screwed up by inflating a massive bubble and inviting you all to live in it.
Imo the real bubble is those who let the shock of 2016 wear off, started seeing a regretful former Brexiteer in every corner, and wanted tongamvle the house on a second referendum.0 -
The first one seems more accurate. Perhaps because that is when postal votes went in.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is the one with the 28 seat majority.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
I am tempted to load in the first one.0 -
He's a crook. Get gone.HaroldO said:
One of the few people in the HoC I dislike more than Chote.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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I'm going to bed....
To be honest....gulp...not a terrible result. BJ no longer being held to ransom by the loons. And there will be a blood letting in Labour which hopefully will get rid of Corbyn and his acolytes.....2 -
Who requested it?Big_G_NorthWales said:Ian Lavery in recount !!!
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Northern Ireland Update
Breaking News!
Stephen Farry Has Won North Down By 2000 Votes approx.
Colum Eastwood expected to win Foyle.0 -
“Corbynism has been tested to destruction”Black_Rook said:The left-leaning contributor on BBC is now blaming everything on Corbyn. The Labour Civil War gets underway...
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Murdo Fraser, Con MSP, blaming SCon losses on wrong distribution of votes. They have been putting on votes in the Central Belt where they are largely useless.
Expect *lots* of SCon second places. This might be the big strategic change from UK GE 2019: it’ll be all SNP vs CON from now on.1 -
Is it that bad?ozymandias said:Just switched on Channel 4. What a state.
Gentler politics personified.0 -
Which parties?TheGreenMachine said:Northern Ireland Update
Breaking News!
Stephen Farry Has Won North Down By 2000 Votes approx.
Colum Eastwood expected to win Foyle.0 -
So, a colleague recently moved to London from there. Was very keen on the Lib Dems so I suggested registering in SE London and voting for them as, even if they probably wouldn't win, they might be in range next time. Anyway, that was three weeks ago and it turned out that he dislikes the Tories a lot more than liking the Lib Dems.Pulpstar said:
Where is Wansbecktlg86 said:
Oh dear, I'm in big trouble at work...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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There was a chart in the report that showed a massive dip on the day they did the MRP for the Tories. It probably was photo-gate. I think they lost like 20 seats from the previous day's prediction.Foxy said:
The first one seems more accurate. Perhaps because that is when postal votes went in.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is the one with the 28 seat majority.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
I am tempted to load in the first one.0 -
Well Boris’s dad is on it. Audience screaming. 🤣🤣🤣HaroldO said:
Is it that bad?ozymandias said:Just switched on Channel 4. What a state.
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Yeah to be fair this might be less useful once there have been more than a handful of seats in!!FrancisUrquhart said:
Oh god, errhh, hmmm, I don't know...MyBurningEars said:
FPTFrancisUrquhart said:
And I noted when I popped out last night, its Christmas Party season...It was heaving with people and clearly they will have voted in the morning (if they voted).IanB2 said:
It was always blindingly obvious that people prefer to walk to the polling station in daylight.FrancisUrquhart said:
BUT BUT BUT...all those tweets about massive queues...rcs1000 said:Turnout is currently running -2.7% against 2017.
Can I be COMPLETELY BLOODY CHEEKY and suggest that when a result gets filled in on the WonderSheet, then the Est Time column gets overwritten by actual time? Or that a spare column gets used as a binary flag, set to 1 when a result come in? Since the est times are well off in some cases, it would be nice to be able to sort the sheet to see the actual declarations at a glance at the top, rather than have to scroll well down to see the ones that came in early.
Love the sheet btw, many thanks for it!
I will see...we are expecting a load of results soon and I need to check things don't blow up.
Running this live thing is more stressful than waiting for the exit poll !!!!
A way you could do this in the sheet without (I presume) needing to change your Python script would be
U1: "Declaration"
U2: =if(G2="","Pending","In")
With U2 selected, double click the handle at the bottom right of the cell to autofill it down column U.
Viewers can go to column U and click "Sort A-Z"
Then confirmed results appear at the top of the sheet, with the rest staying in expected declaration order. Works on my copy of your sheet anyway!
Totally understood if you can't be arsed, you've done more than enough already!0 -
PB Tories will forever be in your debt if the Tories take it by a vote.tlg86 said:
So, a colleague recently moved to London from there. Was very keen on the Lib Dems so I suggested registering in SE London and voting for them as, even if they probably wouldn't win, they might be in range next time. Anyway, that was three weeks ago and it turned out that he dislikes the Tories a lot more than liking the Lib Dems.Pulpstar said:
Where is Wansbecktlg86 said:
Oh dear, I'm in big trouble at work...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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Looks like Lavery's battlebus tour of the North East might not have been that successful.0
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Yeah, but will they hold BRS so I don't lose £100?!StuartDickson said:Murdo Fraser, Con MSP, blaming SCon losses on wrong distribution of votes. They have been putting on votes in the Central Belt where they are largely useless.
Expect *lots* of SCon second places. This might be the big strategic change from UK GE 2019: it’ll be all SNP vs CON from now on.0 -
Looks like there is only one Unionist party now.StuartDickson said:Murdo Fraser, Con MSP, blaming SCon losses on wrong distribution of votes. They have been putting on votes in the Central Belt where they are largely useless.
Expect *lots* of SCon second places. This might be the big strategic change from UK GE 2019: it’ll be all SNP vs CON from now on.0 -
Labour concede Bishop Auckland.0
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Yes pleaseTheScreamingEagles said:
Tipped at 200/1 by me.WhisperingOracle said:Might see the return of Ed Miliband.
#LegendaryModestyKlaxon
Ed Miliband 350.55 £31.00 £10,836.00
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Yup. Looked good.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Labour concede Bishop Auckland.
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Rather depends on your point of view....humbugger said:Looks like Lavery's battlebus tour of the North East might not have been that successful.
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Rumours of a looming recount for Lavery in Wansbeck0
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Murdo Fraser, Con MSP: SLab vote has collapsed. Some has come to the Conservatives, but a lot has gone to the SNP.”0
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I mean, I did ask him what he cared about more, but I did also point out that if Wansbeck fell it would be a Tory landslide anyway. What I hadn't anticipated was the Lib Dem collapse in most of London.RobD said:
PB Tories will forever be in your debt if the Tories take it by a vote.tlg86 said:
So, a colleague recently moved to London from there. Was very keen on the Lib Dems so I suggested registering in SE London and voting for them as, even if they probably wouldn't win, they might be in range next time. Anyway, that was three weeks ago and it turned out that he dislikes the Tories a lot more than liking the Lib Dems.Pulpstar said:
Where is Wansbecktlg86 said:
Oh dear, I'm in big trouble at work...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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I would just like to say how much I enjoyed your gifs during your hourly breakdowns but the feeling is good now.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is the one with the 28 seat majority.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
#LaveryOut
Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
I am tempted to load in the first one.
The problem for YouGov is they did the MRP at the height of "photo-gate" and it showed a massive drop in Tory %. But we saw by the time GE, that polling showed no dip in Tory %. If they had taken the MRP 2 days before they would have had a much bigger majority for the Tories.
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appeals to few not the many.Fleet_of_Worlds said:
“Corbynism has been tested to destruction”Black_Rook said:The left-leaning contributor on BBC is now blaming everything on Corbyn. The Labour Civil War gets underway...
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The Miliband AwakensWhisperingOracle said:Might see the return of Ed Miliband.
The Last Miliband
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So.
How many interviews is A Neil going to get in the next 5 years with the government then?
Career over?0 -
Did you see his last zen one? Very appropriate.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would just like to say how much I enjoyed your gifs during your hourly breakdowns but the feeling is good now.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is the one with the 28 seat majority.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
#LaveryOut
Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
I am tempted to load in the first one.
The problem for YouGov is they did the MRP at the height of "photo-gate" and it showed a massive drop in Tory %. But we saw by the time GE, that polling showed no dip in Tory %. If they had taken the MRP 2 days before they would have had a much bigger majority for the Tories.
Do you have any happy ones ?
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The remainers trying to throw Corbyn under the bus already.0
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In five years' time, Labour have to fight those Midland and Northern leave-y seats *without BXP to split the eurosceptic vote*0
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Getting tired, going to bed for a few hours.
Ideally I would like to see some more Tory gains, to see whether or not the swing to the Tories lines up with the exit poll. The victory may not be as dramatic as currently projected (although we must also factor in the possibility that the SCons aren't as badly beaten as the scanty Scottish data suggests.) Anyway, whether I'm awake or asleep things will be the same in the morning, and I have work tomorrow!0 -
Both need to be thrown under the busbeentheredonethat said:The remainers trying to throw Corbyn under the bus already.
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I remember that something like 80% of recounts are usually to do with candidates trying to save their deposit.0
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I have to be up at half six...but I need to see this.ozymandias said:
Well Boris’s dad is on it. Audience screaming. 🤣🤣🤣HaroldO said:
Is it that bad?ozymandias said:Just switched on Channel 4. What a state.
Gentler politics personified.0 -
What's the working definition of "landslide"? If this ends up like the exit poll is it a "landslide" victory?0
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56% of Wansbeck voters voted Leave in 2016... we'll see swings broadly correlated with the 2016 vote imo, not which faction a candidate is from. Only the very geeky like you'll find on this site know or care.ThomasNashe said:
If it’s right that this is more about Corbyn than Brexit, we can expect to see differential swing against Corbynistas.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
#LaveryOut
Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
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Wansbeck is target 143 for the Tories......0
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Stephen Farry is from the Alliance Party.Foxy said:
Which parties?TheGreenMachine said:Northern Ireland Update
Breaking News!
Stephen Farry Has Won North Down By 2000 Votes approx.
Colum Eastwood expected to win Foyle.
Colum Eastwood is the leader of the SDLP.0 -
Corbyn threw himself and the party under the bus.beentheredonethat said:The remainers trying to throw Corbyn under the bus already.
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Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would just like to say how much I enjoyed your gifs during your hourly breakdowns but the feeling is good now.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is the one with the 28 seat majority.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
#LaveryOut
Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
I am tempted to load in the first one.
The problem for YouGov is they did the MRP at the height of "photo-gate" and it showed a massive drop in Tory %. But we saw by the time GE, that polling showed no dip in Tory %. If they had taken the MRP 2 days before they would have had a much bigger majority for the Tories.
Do you have any happy ones ?
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Not sureNeilVW said:
Who requested it?Big_G_NorthWales said:Ian Lavery in recount !!!
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100 plus sized majorityPhilip_Thompson said:What's the working definition of "landslide"? If this ends up like the exit poll is it a "landslide" victory?
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Redcar gone to the Tories.0
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Will any pundit tonight talk about the West-East divide?0
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Ian lavery is good at getting redundancy pay offs if the opportunity arises1
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Curtice advises that some results are showing slightly smaller Lab to Con swings than the exit poll suggested so the Tory majority may be smaller than 86.0
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Correct. And it’s the wrong one! Only Labour could have saved the Union, and they are well and truly stuffed.Foxy said:
Looks like there is only one Unionist party now.StuartDickson said:Murdo Fraser, Con MSP, blaming SCon losses on wrong distribution of votes. They have been putting on votes in the Central Belt where they are largely useless.
Expect *lots* of SCon second places. This might be the big strategic change from UK GE 2019: it’ll be all SNP vs CON from now on.
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I think its a bit late for it to make a difference, and in five years no one will remember.FrancisUrquhart said:Lansmann on ITV is just losing Labour even more votes !!!! Some rich southern bloke basically telling those that didn't vote Labour they were wrong.
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Do you have numbers on the latter?tlg86 said:
I mean, I did ask him what he cared about more, but I did also point out that if Wansbeck fell it would be a Tory landslide anyway. What I hadn't anticipated was the Lib Dem collapse in most of London.RobD said:
PB Tories will forever be in your debt if the Tories take it by a vote.tlg86 said:
So, a colleague recently moved to London from there. Was very keen on the Lib Dems so I suggested registering in SE London and voting for them as, even if they probably wouldn't win, they might be in range next time. Anyway, that was three weeks ago and it turned out that he dislikes the Tories a lot more than liking the Lib Dems.Pulpstar said:
Where is Wansbecktlg86 said:
Oh dear, I'm in big trouble at work...AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
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Wow,. That was target 136 on their list.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Redcar gone to the Tories.
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Thanks!TheGreenMachine said:
Stephen Farry is from the Alliance Party.Foxy said:
Which parties?TheGreenMachine said:Northern Ireland Update
Breaking News!
Stephen Farry Has Won North Down By 2000 Votes approx.
Colum Eastwood expected to win Foyle.
Colum Eastwood is the leader of the SDLP.
Nice to see Mps from both of these.1 -
9,500 majority overturned.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Redcar gone to the Tories.
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if so, that could be good for Plaid in 2024, as (some) labour and libdems vote plaid to stop the tories.YBarddCwsc said:
It looks as though you were right!llef said:
hooray - i think ben lake is a good mp for ceredigionAramintaMoonbeamQC said:
Adam Price had a great campaign.AlastairMeeks said:
The LibDems have slipped to 4th in Ceredigion, with the Tories second.0 -
First Scottish declaration imminent: Rutherglen. (SLab defence)1
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NoRobD said:
Did you see his last zen one? Very appropriate.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would just like to say how much I enjoyed your gifs during your hourly breakdowns but the feeling is good now.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is the one with the 28 seat majority.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
#LaveryOut
Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
I am tempted to load in the first one.
The problem for YouGov is they did the MRP at the height of "photo-gate" and it showed a massive drop in Tory %. But we saw by the time GE, that polling showed no dip in Tory %. If they had taken the MRP 2 days before they would have had a much bigger majority for the Tories.
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First test of Midlands in Nuneaton.0
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Nuneaton up!0
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Blame game is Corbyn Vs Remainbeentheredonethat said:The remainers trying to throw Corbyn under the bus already.
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Isn't Owen jones on the telly by now usually?0
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LOL! at Nuneaton.0
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Yes and no. Could be another Farage vehicle aimed at that vote.Drutt said:In five years' time, Labour have to fight those Midland and Northern leave-y seats *without BXP to split the eurosceptic vote*
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SNP success blows Remain argument out of the water.Pulpstar said:
Blame game is Corbyn Vs Remainbeentheredonethat said:The remainers trying to throw Corbyn under the bus already.
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Top marks - thank youFrancisUrquhart said:Big_G_NorthWales said:
I would just like to say how much I enjoyed your gifs during your hourly breakdowns but the feeling is good now.FrancisUrquhart said:
It is the one with the 28 seat majority.Philip_Thompson said:
35/46 on the MRP !!AramintaMoonbeamQC said:FULL RECOUNT IN WANSBECK
#LaveryOut
Is the MRP in @FrancisUrquhart 's spreadsheet the original MRP or the final one? Seems like YouGov s**t the bed with this one.
I am tempted to load in the first one.
The problem for YouGov is they did the MRP at the height of "photo-gate" and it showed a massive drop in Tory %. But we saw by the time GE, that polling showed no dip in Tory %. If they had taken the MRP 2 days before they would have had a much bigger majority for the Tories.
Do you have any happy ones ?0 -
Nuneaton poor result for LAB 8% swing????0
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Boris Johnson is now going to have a plethora of seats representing ex-industrial and deprived constituencies. Unless he can offer these new places concrete things fairly quickly, his new populist coalition won't last.0
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Labour conceding Redcar!0
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Looks like the Alliance have taken North Down.0
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Nuneaton Swing 9.4%0
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LOL +9.4% Nuneaton looking dodgy for LAB in Coventry0
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This is a victory for Johnson more than anything....
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There has been a lot of shade thrown at Cummings.Time_to_Leave said:The third book in the Tim Shipman trilogy is going to be a belter.
Has Cummings blogged yet?
His 30,000 word response is going to be bottle-of-wine hilarious.1 -
Wow. One bet iIve won!RobD said:
9,500 majority overturned.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Redcar gone to the Tories.
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The BBC is looking slow once again0
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A mere 10k majority. Bloody hell.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Redcar gone to the Tories.
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I think the Kiwi Shitsters rate is probably going to go up 10x.0
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Please, please make it soScrapheap_as_was said:Isn't Owen jones on the telly by now usually?
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Not really, Scotland has another referendum comingJonathan said:
SNP success blows Remain argument out of the water.Pulpstar said:
Blame game is Corbyn Vs Remainbeentheredonethat said:The remainers trying to throw Corbyn under the bus already.
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So many stand ups on Channel 4, I have no idea why.0
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2017 and 2019 were Corbyn's elections. The big difference between them being, as I said, a commitment to a second referendum. The prospect of having to go through another referendum is a put off for all but those few who have never got over 2016.Jonathan said:
This was Corbyn's election. He was leader. He wrote the manifesto. He set strategy. This is his result. He needs to take responsibility, go and take the bubble with him.Winstanley said:
I find this bizarre, having sat on a polling station all day where people kept wanting to talk about Brexit, how they'd already voted for Brexit, etc. Nobody is turning up going 'what we want is PFI and less public ownership'. It isn't an accident that the Tory campaign can be reduced to the word 'Brexit'.Jonathan said:
He was 'neutral' on Brexit. That is a fence fully inserted.Winstanley said:
He didn't sit on the fence. He campaigned (well imo) for Remain in the referendum. According to the Ashcroft poll 64% of Labour supporters voted Remain, compared to 68% of LDs it ain't bad. Especially considering polls under Miliband had 50% of Labour voters in favour of Brexit (at the time Tom Watson was campaigning forvan EU ref let's remember). The data to pin it on Corbyn isn't there, he just tried to get the party to accept the referendum was lost afterJonathan said:
* Corbyn sat on the fence on Brexit at the key moment, tried to triangulate the issue, confused and annoyed everyone and could not lay a finger on the Tories.Winstanley said:
What's the difference between now and 2017? Labour commitment to a second referendum.Jonathan said:The SNP is the answer to the idea that it was Brexit alone that caused Labour to lose.
This is all about Corbyn, Milne and their cult.
* The total catastrophic mishandling of antisemitism in the party .
* Much of the 2019 manifesto lacked credibility, whereas the 2017 manifesto borrowed heavily from 1997.
SNIP FOR SPACEt.
You really need to wake up. Corbyn was utterly toxic and tone deaf beyond his core vote. He screwed up by inflating a massive bubble and inviting you all to live in it.
Imo the real bubble is those who let the shock of 2016 wear off, started seeing a regretful former Brexiteer in every corner, and wanted tongamvle the house on a second referendum.0 -
Well this election has certainly changed me.
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Swing 9.4%Slackbladder said:Nuneaton up!
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That Foyle result is important: it increases by one the number of MPs needed for a majorityTheGreenMachine said:Northern Ireland Update
Breaking News!
Stephen Farry Has Won North Down By 2000 Votes approx.
Colum Eastwood expected to win Foyle.1 -
Disappointingly he did call Bury South for Labour hold - contrary to both iterations of the MRP. But what I expected.Black_Rook said:
Jeremy Vine's infographic suggested that Walsall South was the safest Labour seat that would fall tonight, based on the exit poll.RobD said:Wow, how far down the list are the Tories going?!
Bury N staying Labour too.0 -
Thank god...I might explode otherwise trying to keep up :-)IanB2 said:The BBC is looking slow once again
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9.4% swing in Nuneaton!0
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Bucket head Vs Binface0
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