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SandyRentool said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

By 44% to 27% the public say that the Chief Rabbi of the UK was right to speak out regarding his criticism of Labour’s record on dealing with anti-Semitism. 68% of Tory voters are of this opinion compared to only 26% of Labour voters https://t.co/bXeFtriFX9 https://t.co/D5grX0u6yX

And the numbers for the statement from the Muslim Council of Britain?

Deflection tactics. Why not accept labour has a problem

And I do not selective quote. If yougov has a poll then please let me know

On topic, Newcastle-under-Lyme is a good example of a seat that has consistently been trending Tory. In 1992, it was 26 points more Labour than the nation. By 2010, this was reduced to 11 points more Labour than the nation and in 2017 became 2 points more Labour than the nation.

If the demographic rate of change (1 point more Tory per year) continues then it should now be an even seat (so Lab would have to beat the Tory vote share nationally to hang on).

On current polls, Aaron could expect a 5-6k majority and have a good shot at a long career as a Tory MP.

Richard_Nabavi said:

timmo said:

On another note most people have been surprised by the levels of lib dem literature they have already received. There are words going around both Labour and Connservative central offices that the LDs are in serious breach of their spending limits. Centrally posted and distributed stuff now counts against an individual constituency when it turns up.
What may happen?

A lot of their leaflets were sent before the campaign limits kicked in - they were ahead of the game on that.

Codswallop...we have recieved 7 leaflets since expenses kicked in

My current waters are telling me that we will end up with about a 4% nationwide swing lab to con but this will be north, Midlands, wales focused so maybe up to 10% in leave seats here and standing still in the south etc. Labour might pick up the odd gain (and I know its Midlands but watch broxtowe) the Tories should shoot through 50 or so up north and end up on a 40ish majority
The LDs are going to monster parts of London but do f all anywhere else

I see that the problems of Dominic Raab are growing ever greater;
I had already noted the exclusion of Harry Dunn's parents from the East Molesey hustings, enforced by his heavies. Now that story is being widely covered in both national and local media, with the Dunn's labelling him a coward. And he really should not have shouted at them as he fled after the meeting.
His predecessor as Tory MP for Esher (Ian Taylor) has come out and called for the voters to back the LDs.
Last night he was heckled and laughed at in Cobham when he called for the audience to support Brexit.
And all of this after the Independent (whose views I usually discount) wrote "This has been quite the week for Dominic Raab. He’s managed to turn the Conservative Central Office “biggest a****hole in the cabinet” stakes from a competitive betting heat into a potential walkover."

Perhaps we are in for a Balls or Portillo moment.

alb1on said:

I see that the problems of Dominic Raab are growing ever greater;
I had already noted the exclusion of Harry Dunn's parents from the East Molesey hustings, enforced by his heavies. Now that story is being widely covered in both national and local media, with the Dunn's labelling him a coward. And he really should not have shouted at them as he fled after the meeting.
His predecessor as Tory MP for Esher (Ian Taylor) has come out and called for the voters to back the LDs.
Last night he was heckled and laughed at in Cobham when he called for the audience to support Brexit.
And all of this after the Independent (whose views I usually discount) wrote "This has been quite the week for Dominic Raab. He’s managed to turn the Conservative Central Office “biggest a****hole in the cabinet” stakes from a competitive betting heat into a potential walkover."

Perhaps we are in for a Balls or Portillo moment.

Maybe

alb1on said:

I see that the problems of Dominic Raab are growing ever greater;
I had already noted the exclusion of Harry Dunn's parents from the East Molesey hustings, enforced by his heavies. Now that story is being widely covered in both national and local media, with the Dunn's labelling him a coward. And he really should not have shouted at them as he fled after the meeting.
His predecessor as Tory MP for Esher (Ian Taylor) has come out and called for the voters to back the LDs.
Last night he was heckled and laughed at in Cobham when he called for the audience to support Brexit.
And all of this after the Independent (whose views I usually discount) wrote "This has been quite the week for Dominic Raab. He’s managed to turn the Conservative Central Office “biggest a****hole in the cabinet” stakes from a competitive betting heat into a potential walkover."

Perhaps we are in for a Balls or Portillo moment.

Until Lord JohnO tells us he's in trouble I won't take the prospect seriously.

alb1on said:

I see that the problems of Dominic Raab are growing ever greater;
I had already noted the exclusion of Harry Dunn's parents from the East Molesey hustings, enforced by his heavies. Now that story is being widely covered in both national and local media, with the Dunn's labelling him a coward. And he really should not have shouted at them as he fled after the meeting.
His predecessor as Tory MP for Esher (Ian Taylor) has come out and called for the voters to back the LDs.
Last night he was heckled and laughed at in Cobham when he called for the audience to support Brexit.
And all of this after the Independent (whose views I usually discount) wrote "This has been quite the week for Dominic Raab. He’s managed to turn the Conservative Central Office “biggest a****hole in the cabinet” stakes from a competitive betting heat into a potential walkover."

Perhaps we are in for a Balls or Portillo moment.

Within (my) living memory we've had a Foreign Secretary speaking from the Lords.

Richard_Nabavi said:

Where on earth did the nonsense that 'Incidents of Islamophobia went up 375% after Boris wrote his article on the burqa' come from?

Google is your friend:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-burqa-islamphobia-rise-a9088476.html

Chris said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Where on earth did the nonsense that 'Incidents of Islamophobia went up 375% after Boris wrote his article on the burqa' come from?

Google is your friend:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-burqa-islamphobia-rise-a9088476.html

No wonder they used the percentage increase!

timmo said:

On another note most people have been surprised by the levels of lib dem literature they have already received. There are words going around both Labour and Connservative central offices that the LDs are in serious breach of their spending limits. Centrally posted and distributed stuff now counts against an individual constituency when it turns up.
What may happen?

You mean that two parties with £20,000,000 each from some pretty dodgy downers are trying to attack a smaller party with a few millions donated by ordinary people?

TudorRose said:

alb1on said:

I see that the problems of Dominic Raab are growing ever greater;
I had already noted the exclusion of Harry Dunn's parents from the East Molesey hustings, enforced by his heavies. Now that story is being widely covered in both national and local media, with the Dunn's labelling him a coward. And he really should not have shouted at them as he fled after the meeting.
His predecessor as Tory MP for Esher (Ian Taylor) has come out and called for the voters to back the LDs.
Last night he was heckled and laughed at in Cobham when he called for the audience to support Brexit.
And all of this after the Independent (whose views I usually discount) wrote "This has been quite the week for Dominic Raab. He’s managed to turn the Conservative Central Office “biggest a****hole in the cabinet” stakes from a competitive betting heat into a potential walkover."

Perhaps we are in for a Balls or Portillo moment.

Within (my) living memory we've had a Foreign Secretary speaking from the Lords.

Indeed, he was the Foreign Secretary when I joined the FCO

Chris said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

Where on earth did the nonsense that 'Incidents of Islamophobia went up 375% after Boris wrote his article on the burqa' come from?

Google is your friend:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/boris-johnson-muslim-women-letterboxes-burqa-islamphobia-rise-a9088476.html

An increase from 2 per day to 7 per day. Fora week. Then back down to 2.
Or have I misinterpreted the chart?

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Time_to_Leave said:

Is this new?

https://www.costofcorbyn.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAt_PuBRDcARIsAMNlBdrjzzB1jFx_zz9gDvUv981Wuemv4eOprj-SQGECzvK6qOuYOY3sHVIaAj49EALw_wcB#

I was just having a look at manifestos and it seems that this is starting to be triggered off certain key words like “labour policies”. Heh.

That is better.

The conservatives use of social media is greatly improved and who knows how the effectiveness will pay off

Everything is compared to “X policemen” or “X times the cost of running the NHS for a year”. I wonder if they can be beaten on the “priorities” game?

TOPPING said:

Give us a precis or let me guess. Corbyn's not a filthy anti-semite?

He doesn't get a mention. The article manages to discuss things such as zionism and jewish identity through a lens other than whether Jeremy Corbyn is an anitsemite or just antisemitic.
I know!

Tabman said:

wooliedyed said:

The LDs are going to monster parts of London but do f all anywhere else

Can we draw a line from the Wash to the Bristol Channel and put a hard border along it?

Those to the south would die of thirst,

TudorRose said:

alb1on said:

I see that the problems of Dominic Raab are growing ever greater;
I had already noted the exclusion of Harry Dunn's parents from the East Molesey hustings, enforced by his heavies. Now that story is being widely covered in both national and local media, with the Dunn's labelling him a coward. And he really should not have shouted at them as he fled after the meeting.
His predecessor as Tory MP for Esher (Ian Taylor) has come out and called for the voters to back the LDs.
Last night he was heckled and laughed at in Cobham when he called for the audience to support Brexit.
And all of this after the Independent (whose views I usually discount) wrote "This has been quite the week for Dominic Raab. He’s managed to turn the Conservative Central Office “biggest a****hole in the cabinet” stakes from a competitive betting heat into a potential walkover."

Perhaps we are in for a Balls or Portillo moment.

Within (my) living memory we've had a Foreign Secretary speaking from the Lords.

Carrington?

Chris said:

LostPassword said:

Chris said:

PeterC said:

Time_to_Leave said:

Have we stablished what is driving the movement in these polls? Is it firming up of don’t knows towards Labour?

Has there been any real 'movement'? Kantar, having previously produced an outlier towards the Tories, has reverted to mean; ICM, having given Labour better ratings than other pollsters, has perhaps produced an outlier in Labour's direction. There really isn't that much to go on so far. By the end of the week we will know more.

Well, of course it's difficult to tell what's an outlier and what isn't before we know the election result. :-)

I just think people need to acknowledge that there is less certainty about the outcome of this election than many are assuming.

No, you can tell what is an outlier by comparing it to other polls. What you can't tell is whether all the polls as a whole are systematically wrong.

Hmm. Well, I suppose it depends how you define an outlier. If you mean it just differs significantly from the other polls, I suppose you are right. On the other hand, when people talk about outliers I think there's an implicit assumption that sampling isn't biased. In that case, an outlier might be the result of bias. With your definition, an outlier might be the one accurate poll in a collection of otherwise biased ones!

I'm using the meaning of outlier as defined for statistics and so, yes, it is possible for a statistical outlier in the fortuitously correct direction to cancel out a systematic bias - this is one reason why the polling beauty parade against the election result is a bit harsh on individual pollsters.

My point is that, statistically, you will expect to see outliers, in both directions, but they still give us useful information. For example, we now have 41 polls with fieldwork at least partially in November. You'd expect these to span 97.5% of the distribution of sample means, at least, and the range for the Tory lead over Labour is 6-19pp. With, say, another 30 polls left in the campaign the chance of a new poll falling outside of this range purely by chance starts to decline. It becomes now likely that it's an outlier and a shift in the population mean at the same time.

Yeah, looking at the Chancellor’s speech today Mr Cummings has come out to play:

“Instead of spending £150 million on two more referendums....“

Richard_Nabavi said:

timmo said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

timmo said:

On another note most people have been surprised by the levels of lib dem literature they have already received. There are words going around both Labour and Connservative central offices that the LDs are in serious breach of their spending limits. Centrally posted and distributed stuff now counts against an individual constituency when it turns up.
What may happen?

A lot of their leaflets were sent before the campaign limits kicked in - they were ahead of the game on that.

Codswallop...we have recieved 7 leaflets since expenses kicked in

Which bit of 'A lot of their leaflets were sent before the campaign limits kicked in' did you fail to understand?

None

Alistair said:

NorthCadboll said:

Good afternoon fellow PBers. It is well seeing that Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross is seen as one of the key marginals in Scotland. I have just had the 6th and 7th pieces of literature from/on behalf of Jamie Stone with barcharts everywhere. Liberals must be throwing a fortune at this seat, possibly because their canvas returns are showing the unionist vote swinging solidly behind the SCons.

Is this statement based on information or wish fulfillment?

Do you have an update on your model with the latest Scottish poll?

Richard_Nabavi said:

timmo said:

On another note most people have been surprised by the levels of lib dem literature they have already received. There are words going around both Labour and Connservative central offices that the LDs are in serious breach of their spending limits. Centrally posted and distributed stuff now counts against an individual constituency when it turns up.
What may happen?

A lot of their leaflets were sent before the campaign limits kicked in - they were ahead of the game on that.

And they print a lot of their own. Paper and ink are relatively inexpensive.

Thanks for finding time out of the election campaign to post this informative piece Aaron.

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Johnson versus Corbyn
#ge2019

Source: Savanta-ComRes https://t.co/vQ917eNuW2

I wonder if they have VI numbers? We should be getting a new ComRes tomorrow, and perhaps a YouGov today (if they are on a weekly schedule)

Big_G_NorthWales said:

Johnson versus Corbyn
#ge2019

Source: Savanta-ComRes https://t.co/vQ917eNuW2

Boris wins over Corbyn on "trustworthy".

It's a done deal......

Morris_Dancer said:

Mr. kinabalu, he's quoting Stormzy lyrics, for context.

Yes, I know. It's a Mikey Gee v Stormzy thang.

IanB2 said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

timmo said:

On another note most people have been surprised by the levels of lib dem literature they have already received. There are words going around both Labour and Connservative central offices that the LDs are in serious breach of their spending limits. Centrally posted and distributed stuff now counts against an individual constituency when it turns up.
What may happen?

A lot of their leaflets were sent before the campaign limits kicked in - they were ahead of the game on that.

And they print a lot of their own. Paper and ink are relatively inexpensive.

It's the number of bits that are coming with the post that make this not stand up

MikeSmithson said:

One way the LDs keep costs down is that in many seats they do all their own printing - so the costs are just paper and ink plus hire of the printing machine.

And what did they print? "Meet Prime Minister Jo Swinson".

And 1 in 4 of their voters went walkabout.

I really need to get 2005 data into my model to make it more accurate but I haven't had the time.

NorthCadboll said:

Good afternoon fellow PBers. It is well seeing that Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross is seen as one of the key marginals in Scotland. I have just had the 6th and 7th pieces of literature from/on behalf of Jamie Stone with barcharts everywhere. Liberals must be throwing a fortune at this seat, possibly because their canvas returns are showing the unionist vote swinging solidly behind the SCons.

They are t allowed to throw a fortune at it...they are going to be seriously stuffed

humbugger said:

This WASPI thing gets more interesting. Apparently Emma Thompson, Kate Bush, Dawn French and Sarah Ferguson will be amongst the beneficiaries. I'm not sure a Labour Government should be adding to the nation's already mighty borrowing to compensate such ladies.

Tuition fees - middle class bung. Free broadband - middle class bung. WASPI bribe - middle class bung.

I'm detecting a pattern here.

Oliver Kamm on CAPX is giving labour's WASPI policy a roasting. 'Regressive'

Worth a read.

timmo said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

timmo said:

On another note most people have been surprised by the levels of lib dem literature they have already received. There are words going around both Labour and Connservative central offices that the LDs are in serious breach of their spending limits. Centrally posted and distributed stuff now counts against an individual constituency when it turns up.
What may happen?

A lot of their leaflets were sent before the campaign limits kicked in - they were ahead of the game on that.

Codswallop...we have recieved 7 leaflets since expenses kicked in

Only 7.....You are been left off lightly....No sign of a let up on the Lib Dem propaganda being sent to Chez Urquhart.

humbugger said:

This WASPI thing gets more interesting. Apparently Emma Thompson, Kate Bush, Dawn French and Sarah Ferguson will be amongst the beneficiaries. I'm not sure a Labour Government should be adding to the nation's already mighty borrowing to compensate such ladies.

Natalia Ayesha Grosvenor, Duchess of Westminster

Why Labour's inheritance tax reforms would cost you £140,000 more
https://t.co/INvLGytACx

Make the wasps buzz a different tune

timmo said:

Richard_Nabavi said:

timmo said:

On another note most people have been surprised by the levels of lib dem literature they have already received. There are words going around both Labour and Connservative central offices that the LDs are in serious breach of their spending limits. Centrally posted and distributed stuff now counts against an individual constituency when it turns up.
What may happen?

A lot of their leaflets were sent before the campaign limits kicked in - they were ahead of the game on that.

Codswallop...we have recieved 7 leaflets since expenses kicked in

Expenses need not necessarily have kicked in until 14 November. They have been going some if you have had seven leaflets since then?

SandyRentool said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

SandyRentool said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

By 44% to 27% the public say that the Chief Rabbi of the UK was right to speak out regarding his criticism of Labour’s record on dealing with anti-Semitism. 68% of Tory voters are of this opinion compared to only 26% of Labour voters https://t.co/bXeFtriFX9 https://t.co/D5grX0u6yX

And the numbers for the statement from the Muslim Council of Britain?

Deflection tactics. Why not accept labour has a problem

And I do not selective quote. If yougov has a poll then please let me know

Regrettably there are racists in my party. I want them kicked out. Entryists and nut-jobs who have no place in Labour.

They are outnumbered by the racists in your party. I'm sure you want them kicked out too.

There are issues in both parties but labour are the one under investigation by EHRC

Sajid Javid has confirmed this afternoon the conservsative party are to conduct an investigation into Islamophobia in the party

Byronic said:

Barnesian said:

My 25 LD seats in England (plus five in Scotland and one in Wales) making 31.
Bath
Bermondsey and Old Southwark
Cambridge
Carshalton and Wallington
Cheadle
Cheltenham
Eastbourne
Hazel Grove
Kingston and Surbiton
Leeds North West
Lewes
North Cornwall
North Devon
North Norfolk
Oxford West and Abingdon
Richmond Park
Sheffield, Hallam
Southport
St Albans
St Ives
Sutton and Cheam
Twickenham
Wells
Westmorland and Lonsdale
Winchester

If you were asked for a list of the 25 nicest places to live in England, it wouldn’t look very different to that

Sutton and Cheam?...dont think so this time

Barnesian said:

My 25 LD seats in England (plus five in Scotland and one in Wales) making 31.
Bath
Bermondsey and Old Southwark
Cambridge
Carshalton and Wallington
Cheadle
Cheltenham
Eastbourne
Hazel Grove
Kingston and Surbiton
Leeds North West
Lewes
North Cornwall
North Devon
North Norfolk
Oxford West and Abingdon
Richmond Park
Sheffield, Hallam
Southport
St Albans
St Ives
Sutton and Cheam
Twickenham
Wells
Westmorland and Lonsdale
Winchester

I see the home counties seats of Guildford and Wimbledon as more likely that N Devon and N Cornwall (and possibly easier within that area than Sutton). So much depends on how the Labour vote behaves in London. A meltdown in key seats accompanied by tactical voting could deliver Hampstead, Finchley, City of London, Vauxhall and Kensington. But if they hold together the Tories will hold Wimbledon and Sutton.

MarqueeMark said:

MikeSmithson said:

One way the LDs keep costs down is that in many seats they do all their own printing - so the costs are just paper and ink plus hire of the printing machine.

And what did they print? "Meet Prime Minister Jo Swinson".

And 1 in 4 of their voters went walkabout.

Pretty hard to criticise Boris Johnson on trust or come across as a serious alternative when you are using phrases like Prime Minister Jo Swinson.

The Lib Dems had a great opportunity. All they needed to do is unequivocally say they want a second referendum while backing Remain. They could even have been cheeky - acknowledge that they are not going to win a majority but then suggest neither is Jeremy Corbyn and a vote for the Liberal Democrats would provide seats for them to moderate and restrain the worst excesses of the larger parties. That could have sounded like a sane alternative . . . instead she went for 'I will be Prime Minister and revoke without a referendum'.

Alistair said:

RobD said:

Alistair said:

RobD said:

Alistair said:

NorthCadboll said:

Good afternoon fellow PBers. It is well seeing that Caithness, Sutherland and Easter Ross is seen as one of the key marginals in Scotland. I have just had the 6th and 7th pieces of literature from/on behalf of Jamie Stone with barcharts everywhere. Liberals must be throwing a fortune at this seat, possibly because their canvas returns are showing the unionist vote swinging solidly behind the SCons.

Is this statement based on information or wish fulfillment?

Do you have an update on your model with the latest Scottish poll?

Yeah, I posted it a little bit back, the seat ranges are (depending on turnout)

Con = 11-12
Lab = 1-3
LD = 4
SNP = 41-43

My apologies for not catching it earlier!

It's a very unexciting forecast. Its pretty much exactly what you would expect. The only surprise is LD don't take NE Fife under any turnout level.

The results start getting interesting as the LD number Goes up just a bit and the Con vote goes down a bit. Con suddenly lose a pile of seats. They are effectively a good distance away from a very precipitous cliff edge.

I should probably setup some monte carlo testing based on polling Margin of Error to see what the "true" seat ranges of my model are.

Monte Carlo? Now you've got me excited. Would be interesting to see the distribution of seat numbers for each party from those draws.

rottenborough said:

RobD said:

humbugger said:

This WASPI thing gets more interesting. Apparently Emma Thompson, Kate Bush, Dawn French and Sarah Ferguson will be amongst the beneficiaries. I'm not sure a Labour Government should be adding to the nation's already mighty borrowing to compensate such ladies.

Tuition fees - middle class bung. Free broadband - middle class bung. WASPI bribe - middle class bung.

I'm detecting a pattern here.

Why is WASPI a middle class bung?

Those on benefits would lose the bung as it would be deducted from the benefits if I understand it correctly.

MarqueeMark said:

SandyRentool said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

SandyRentool said:

Big_G_NorthWales said:

By 44% to 27% the public say that the Chief Rabbi of the UK was right to speak out regarding his criticism of Labour’s record on dealing with anti-Semitism. 68% of Tory voters are of this opinion compared to only 26% of Labour voters https://t.co/bXeFtriFX9 https://t.co/D5grX0u6yX

And the numbers for the statement from the Muslim Council of Britain?

Deflection tactics. Why not accept labour has a problem

And I do not selective quote. If yougov has a poll then please let me know

Regrettably there are racists in my party. I want them kicked out. Entryists and nut-jobs who have no place in Labour.

They are outnumbered by the racists in your party. I'm sure you want them kicked out too.

The evidence suggest otherwise.

The racists in our party get shown the door pronto. Labour's? They never seem to quite get around to discovering where the door is.....

Your party made one of the racists its current leader.

The blues have an opening to attack labour on trust/corruption. Shadow home and foreign secretaries to trouser a waspi bung and tax increases set for earners just above the level of MPs. Enriching themselves. Powerful attack line.

rottenborough said:

RobD said:

humbugger said:

This WASPI thing gets more interesting. Apparently Emma Thompson, Kate Bush, Dawn French and Sarah Ferguson will be amongst the beneficiaries. I'm not sure a Labour Government should be adding to the nation's already mighty borrowing to compensate such ladies.

Tuition fees - middle class bung. Free broadband - middle class bung. WASPI bribe - middle class bung.

I'm detecting a pattern here.

Why is WASPI a middle class bung?

It is not means tested in any way. So it will be given to anyone in the right age group, regardless of means, and the more a person has worked the more they will get. So higher earners or those working for longer will likely get more money. It is not just middle class women who will get it but an awful lot of those who will get it are in no sense financially badly off.

alb1on said:

I see that the problems of Dominic Raab are growing ever greater;
I had already noted the exclusion of Harry Dunn's parents from the East Molesey hustings, enforced by his heavies. Now that story is being widely covered in both national and local media, with the Dunn's labelling him a coward. And he really should not have shouted at them as he fled after the meeting.
His predecessor as Tory MP for Esher (Ian Taylor) has come out and called for the voters to back the LDs.
Last night he was heckled and laughed at in Cobham when he called for the audience to support Brexit.
And all of this after the Independent (whose views I usually discount) wrote "This has been quite the week for Dominic Raab. He’s managed to turn the Conservative Central Office “biggest a****hole in the cabinet” stakes from a competitive betting heat into a potential walkover."

Does Raab rhyme with B’Stard ?

If it is of any interest - expect more constituency polls soon. I've just been called by IQR market research, and a large proportion of the questions focused on candidates. Possibly internal party polling not for public domain mind, and if so, I'd guess the Cons rather than Labour (e.g. who's most likely to get Brexit done, who is biggest risk, trust, best on economy, NHS, education).

May I nominate Adam Price of Plaid Cymru for the Manspreader of the Year Award? His intervew with Jo Coburn of the BBC shouldn't be missed. He sat with his feet a yard apart, toes pointed in opposite directions, and kept bouncing on his seat aiming his crotch in Jo's direction. Top work!