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It has not mellowed!kinabalu said:
Is the mood in Totnes still "ferociously unforgiving"?MarqueeMark said:Just done three and a half hours canvassing in Totnes constituency.
We had to give up as it was getting dark - and the gangs of trick or treat kids said they couldn't compete in the horror stakes with a bunch of Tories knocking on doors!
BTW, Dr. Sarah Wollaston's name is mud out there...... Even those who are LibDems raise their eyebrows heavenwards.1 -
Johnson selling off the NHS could kill his plans to win a majority.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .0 -
Benpointer said:
What's a reputable pollster doing prompting for a party 50% of the time?TheScreamingEagles said:
Testing whether it makes any difference.0 -
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Most firms, including ladbrokes, have 37.5 as the lib dem over/under seats line. But Ladbrokes also have a 3-way market with under 50 seats at 10/11, a bigger price than the under 37.5. You could back the over 37.5 at 5/6 and the under 50 at 10/11 to give a good sweet spot where both could come in.
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Not talking about people such as yourself Nick, but this very much fits your party leader. The type you are describing are not really socialists, but generally social democrats, which is a philosophy that I have a lot of sympathy with. The nutty language that Corbyn has been coming out with neatly fits my description of socialism; a nasty jealous creed that does nothing for the poor, but make them poorer.NickPalmer said:
That's the same sort of generalisation as "Tories are evil city financiers and their mates". Socialists in most Western countries tend to be successful middle-class people who feel it would be prudent/desirable/nice (the motive varies) to avoid extremes of wealth, and who accept higher taxes for themselves if they are part of an overall programme. They might be unwise, but I don't think I've actually ever met anyone who fits your description.Nigel_Foremain said:
It is a complex thing that most socialists will never understand because socialists are fundamentally lazy. Socialists want others to work hard so they can have benefits of the tax that those innovative folk generate. A socialists doesn't say "how can I be cleverer or work harder to get those things or services", he says "why does that person have them and I do not - let's tax them"0 -
Those policies don’t have to be produced in exactly the same way after that . The backtrack on the schools one has already started .MarqueeMark said:
Conference policy, mate. Conference policy....nico67 said:
That policy and the public schools one will bite the dust or will be rehashed into a more voter friendly version unless that is Labour want to finish third .blueblue said:
Just wait until the Tories inform those voters of the open-door immigration policy decided at Labour conferenceRoger said:Apparently Corbyn's launch went well. They think dumping on the rich will go down very well with the same people who were seduced by Leave. The focus groups think this left wing populism though divisive is definitely Corbyn's best bet.
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I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.0 -
I think the darkness is a big thing in relation to Tories targeting Labour held seats. Unless volunteers are local and familiar with an area. You would not want to be out in the dark in a deprived area with a Blue rosette!MarqueeMark said:Just done three and a half hours canvassing in Totnes constituency.
We had to give up as it was getting dark - and the gangs of trick or treat kids said they couldn't compete in the horror stakes with a bunch of Tories knocking on doors!
BTW, Dr. Sarah Wollaston's name is mud out there...... Even those who are LibDems raise their eyebrows heavenwards.
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Excuse me if I don't explain that degree of subtlety on the doorsteps. I'll just give a general thank you for providing me with the weaponry....nico67 said:
Those policies don’t have to be produced in exactly the same way after that . The backtrack on the schools one has already started .MarqueeMark said:
Conference policy, mate. Conference policy....nico67 said:
That policy and the public schools one will bite the dust or will be rehashed into a more voter friendly version unless that is Labour want to finish third .blueblue said:
Just wait until the Tories inform those voters of the open-door immigration policy decided at Labour conferenceRoger said:Apparently Corbyn's launch went well. They think dumping on the rich will go down very well with the same people who were seduced by Leave. The focus groups think this left wing populism though divisive is definitely Corbyn's best bet.
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I suppose the people you have mentioned hang on in there on the same basis as those in the Tory Party that think Brexit is for nutters. Yes there are still quite a few in parliament that have not been purged by Cummings!Big_G_NorthWales said:Corbyn's musings today are so far left it is off the scale
How can the Starmer, Benn, Cooper and others stand for election on this class war nonsense
Others have suggested he knows he will not win and I agree. He is road testing Venezeula part 2 to destruction but risks destroying the labour party in the process
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Nonsense.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked
The super rich don’t make people poor. In your envy-ridden, green eyed little world maybe. But not in the real world.
They pay more tax every year already than most of us will earn in a lifetime. Without them paying the tax they are legally obliged to pay you’ll find all the little free owls we’re so enamoured with just won’t be there.
When they are their companies flee who’s going to pay for you then? Who’ll be next? The rich evil middle classes I presume?
Socialism is a paralysing, stultifying creed. It’s parasitic.0 -
"Stop Brexit for a brighter future". A bit vague by the Lib Dems. I think I'd go a little more DFS.
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS!!!!
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It is almost the time of day for the latest round of mother anecdotes.blueblue said:
That's so desperate it's almost endearing...kinabalu said:Anyway, good news. I have been out and about today and was struck by something wholly positive. Not a single person - not one - came bounding up to me to say they were planning to vote Conservative on Dec 12th to get Brexit done (or indeed for any other reason). "Oh, but I bet you just popped to the corner store," I hear people protesting. Well no, actually. I was out for almost two hours and I went to a number of places. So. Game on.
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This campaign really is going to be unbearable.....TheScreamingEagles said:0 -
I think it would have to be the '£70 billion Stop Brexit bonus'! Otherwise it might backfire...Roger said:"Stop Brexit for a brighter future". A bit vague by the Lib Dems. I think I'd go a little more DFS.
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!0 -
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You then may be interested in the 4/6 available from Ladbrokes that Plaid end up with 4 seats (as now) or less. I have put something on that and it's still available.YBarddCwsc said:Even in a drubbing, parties always take one or two seats against the tide.
My prediction for a Labour gain is .....
.... Arfon.
It is highly marginal. Only Plaid Cymru or Labour are going to win this seat.
And Plaid Cymru could easily end up having a worse election than Labour.
Essentially, that's a bet that Plaid will EITHER fail to pick up Ynys Mon from Labour in a 3 way contest with the Conservatives OR lose at least one of their 4 seats.
I think it's more likely than not that the LDs will take back Ceredigion. I can't see Labour picking up Arfon though.
Ynys Mon seems a tall order for Plaid as a Remain party. 51% voted Leave there and the remain vote could be fairly evenly divided between Lab and Plaid, so there is potential for the Tories to come through from a starting position equal with Plaid. 19% of 2017 Plaid voters are switching to the Tories, according to the last YouGov.1 -
If Trump were Machiavellian, and wanted Johnson to win, he should spend all the time emphasising how similar Corbyn is to himself.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .
That way Labour would be struggling to finish fourth.0 -
Good thinking Holmes.....Richard_Nabavi said:
I think it would have to be the '£70 billion Stop Brexit bonus'! Otherwise it might backfire...Roger said:"Stop Brexit for a brighter future". A bit vague by the Lib Dems. I think I'd go a little more DFS.
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!0 -
His parents were well off enough to live in a manor house and send him to a private prep school.ydoethur said:
I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.1 -
They hadn't heard Corbyn Venezeula part 2 speech today. Mad as a box of frogskinabalu said:Anyway, good news. I have been out and about today and was struck by something wholly positive. Not a single person - not one - came bounding up to me to say they were planning to vote Conservative on Dec 12th to get Brexit done (or indeed for any other reason). "Oh, but I bet you just popped to the corner store," I hear people protesting. Well no, actually. I was out for almost two hours and I went to a number of places. So. Game on.
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Welsh language issues resonate in Anglesey more than elsewhere. Makes the Tory task much more difficult.Wulfrun_Phil said:
You then may be interested in the 4/6 available from Ladbrokes that Plaid end up with 4 seats (as now) or less. I have put something on that and it's still available.YBarddCwsc said:Even in a drubbing, parties always take one or two seats against the tide.
My prediction for a Labour gain is .....
.... Arfon.
It is highly marginal. Only Plaid Cymru or Labour are going to win this seat.
And Plaid Cymru could easily end up having a worse election than Labour.
Essentially, that's a bet that Plaid will EITHER fail to pick up Ynys Mon from Labour in a 3 way contest with the Conservatives OR lose at least one of their 4 seats.
I think it's more likely than not that the LDs will take back Ceredigion. I can't see Labour picking up Arfon though.
Ynys Mon seems a tall order for Plaid as a Remain party. 51% voted Leave there and the remain vote could be fairly evenly divided between Lab and Plaid, so there is potential for the Tories to come through from a starting position equal with Plaid. 19% of 2017 Plaid voters are switching to the Tories, according to the last YouGov.0 -
IanB2 said:
Stocky said: Burgon is puzzling - according to Wiki he went to Cambridge and trained as a solicitor.
"Perhaps in his younger days he could row a boat or kick a ball?"
Maybe, though he doesn`t appear capable of rowing a boat or kicking a ball.0 -
Who's gonna buy the NHS? Might be worth starting over with 21st century modelrottenborough said:
Johnson selling off the NHS could kill his plans to win a majority.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .0 -
The super rich do however push up prices for things in limited supply like houses and commodities. And they divert the productive resources of the economy towards supporting their consumerist desires rather than the needs of the many.ozymandias said:
Nonsense.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked
The super rich don’t make people poor. In your envy-ridden, green eyed little world maybe. But not in the real world.
They pay more tax every year already than most of us will earn in a lifetime. Without them paying the tax they are legally obliged to pay you’ll find all the little free owls we’re so enamoured with just won’t be there.
When they are their companies flee who’s going to pay for you then? Who’ll be next? The rich evil middle classes I presume?
Socialism is a paralysing, stultifying creed. It’s parasitic.
The correct approach is mixed market social democracy. A progressive enough taxation system to get as much as you can from the rich without scaring them off. Which is a much higher level than most conservatives pretend.0 -
One things for sure Corbyn won’t be a lapdog for Trump .1
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It is amazing the ages of the top politicians in US. Most of them are ready to drop , struggle to remember who they are/where they are etc, unbelievable.Philip_Thompson said:Pelosi is choking in a news conference, it is cringeworthy. She keeps tripping over her words and saying the wrong words.
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The simple fact is that anyone who stands to be elected as a Labour MP is campaigning to make Jeremy Corbyn prime minister. There is no way round this – no pretence, as in 2017, that Labour can’t win so there’s no chance of him becoming PM. You are either with Labour – and all that means – or against it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/31/labour-party-has-become-even-rotten-ideologically-extreme-since/0 -
They are useless losersYBarddCwsc said:
The point is that the SNP **were** a small party once. They grew under FPTP to take almost every seat in Scotland.Tabman said:
Nonsense. We have an electoral system that favours parties with geographically-concentrated support.Philip_Thompson said:
Nonsense. Does the electoral system discriminate against the SNP?OllyT said:
Your hatred of the Lib Dems borders on the pathological. You are entitled to your views but tyou are so obsessed it renders your comments worthless.YBarddCwsc said:
The LibDems prefer elections when there is only one candidate name on the ballot.contrarian said:
Dunno I have read (I think on here? ) that a number of MPs are going to get a free run off the lib dems, including some labour. Nothing certain yet?? guess talks are ongoing.Benpointer said:FPT:
Surely this is just a special case supporting Dominic Grieve?contrarian said:
The lib dems have to be careful here. Don't stand down against too many labour MPs, just because they are strong remainers.AramintaMoonbeamQC said:Lib Dems not contesting Beaconsfield.
Wonder how much of this we will see?
Wouldn't want to frighten the horses in the leafy enclaves they are trying to take off the tories.
We have an electoral system that unfairly discriminates against any party other than Labour and the Tories. The minor parties are therefore driven to do what they can to mitigate that bias. If you honestly can't see that then I should give up if I were you.
The electoral system rewards success and penalises favour. It has no regard to which party is which.
They didn't grow by asking every other party to stand down, so they get a clear run.
They grew by having a reasonably clear vision and persuading voters in their droves to vote for it.
Why can't the LibDems do this? Why are they always the Dick Dastardly of politics with some cunning ruse that blows up in their face?0 -
How is MS funded?ydoethur said:
I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.0 -
My guess is yes. The Labour MP for Gower is exceptionally unplesant.timmo said:
Will Gower turn Blue again?Fysics_Teacher said:
I’m not doubting your prediction, but did the Tories really take any seats off anyone in ‘97?YBarddCwsc said:Even in a drubbing, parties always take one or two seats against the tide.
My prediction for a Labour gain is .....
.... Arfon.
It is highly marginal. Only Plaid Cymru or Labour are going to win this seat.
And Plaid Cymru could easily end up having a worse election than Labour.
Just for clarity I am not expecting a result like 1997 this time for either side.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-43797547
I know more about the story behind this shabby episode.
I am very unlikely to vote in the forthcoming election, and have been railing against people voting negatively ! But, in the Gower, I'd have no compunction about voting to oust the sitting MP.
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Corbyn is certainly doing a great job at giving the impression that the most right wing lunatic fringe government this country has ever seen is closer to the sensible middle than he is. Well done Jeremy. Perhaps we should give you an honorary E Grade A level in Government and Politics.0
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That's four things wrong with it then. Are Tories on the back foot much?ozymandias said:
Nonsense.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked
The super rich don’t make people poor. In your envy-ridden, green eyed little world maybe. But not in the real world.
They pay more tax every year already than most of us will earn in a lifetime. Without them paying the tax they are legally obliged to pay you’ll find all the little free owls we’re so enamoured with just won’t be there.
When they are their companies flee who’s going to pay for you then? Who’ll be next? The rich evil middle classes I presume?
Socialism is a paralysing, stultifying creed. It’s parasitic.
Just for fun, I composed the converse of your final sentence: "Capitalism is an invigorating, enthusiasm-generating, non-prescriptive philosophy which enhances the lives of those who aren't signed up to it".
Bring on the head-to-head debate, Johnson versus Corbyn. Lots of Tories in the audience too, please, with cameras ready to catch their interventions.0 -
£70 Billion is over ten years, so it should be £7 Billion.Roger said:"Stop Brexit for a brighter future". A bit vague by the Lib Dems. I think I'd go a little more DFS.
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS!!!!
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That's a problem though. Voters not paying attention to the actual plans of Labour, rather than the occasional FB advert about foodbanks.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They hadn't heard Corbyn Venezeula part 2 speech today. Mad as a box of frogskinabalu said:Anyway, good news. I have been out and about today and was struck by something wholly positive. Not a single person - not one - came bounding up to me to say they were planning to vote Conservative on Dec 12th to get Brexit done (or indeed for any other reason). "Oh, but I bet you just popped to the corner store," I hear people protesting. Well no, actually. I was out for almost two hours and I went to a number of places. So. Game on.
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Symptomatic of a generation who do not want to relinquish control. It’s very pronounced in the US, I think.malcolmg said:
It is amazing the ages of the top politicians in US. Most of them are ready to drop , struggle to remember who they are/where they are etc, unbelievable.Philip_Thompson said:Pelosi is choking in a news conference, it is cringeworthy. She keeps tripping over her words and saying the wrong words.
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Well it is said that Trump is Putin's, how shall I put it, favoured western politician, and one rarely hears Corbyn criticise Vlad, so maybe there is something complex going on here!ydoethur said:
If Trump were Machiavellian, and wanted Johnson to win, he should spend all the time emphasising how similar Corbyn is to himself.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .
That way Labour would be struggling to finish fourth.0 -
May I gently remind you, BigG, that Chavez won four presidential elections on exactly that prospectus in a country with good levels of education. And while Corbyn has said - probably unintentionally- that he intends to abolish elections, he hasn’t yet to my knowledge attempted a military coup. So his task of persuading people he can be trusted to take power lawfully should theoretically be easier.Big_G_NorthWales said:
They hadn't heard Corbyn Venezeula part 2 speech today. Mad as a box of frogskinabalu said:Anyway, good news. I have been out and about today and was struck by something wholly positive. Not a single person - not one - came bounding up to me to say they were planning to vote Conservative on Dec 12th to get Brexit done (or indeed for any other reason). "Oh, but I bet you just popped to the corner store," I hear people protesting. Well no, actually. I was out for almost two hours and I went to a number of places. So. Game on.
The problem is people do like the idea of something for nothing. They like the idea that if they can’t have what they want, it’s somebody else’s fault. After years of stagnant incomes, they like the idea of higher wages and shorter hours.
Yes, you know it’s uncosted bollocks that would lead to catastrophe. I know that. Probably even Nick Palmer, in his heart of hearts, knows that. But others won’t do that level of detail.
That’s precisely why people like Corbyn - populist, unprincipled and completely unscrupulous - are so very dangerous.0 -
People who think Corbyn is fit to be PM #1
https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/11899025625661317120 -
What would it do for Trump?ydoethur said:
If Trump were Machiavellian, and wanted Johnson to win, he should spend all the time emphasising how similar Corbyn is to himself.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .
That way Labour would be struggling to finish fourth.0 -
If the lib dems give a few of labour's deepest remainers a free run to facilitate a revoke, are they campaigning to make JC PM?rottenborough said:The simple fact is that anyone who stands to be elected as a Labour MP is campaigning to make Jeremy Corbyn prime minister. There is no way round this – no pretence, as in 2017, that Labour can’t win so there’s no chance of him becoming PM. You are either with Labour – and all that means – or against it.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/10/31/labour-party-has-become-even-rotten-ideologically-extreme-since/0 -
Most of the public wouldn’t even know who they are . The more Trump slags off Corbyn the better for Labour .nunu2 said:
No, just Hezbollah and Hamasnico67 said:One things for sure Corbyn won’t be a lapdog for Trump .
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I think it's mainly bequests from their dwindling readership as they die off.ReggieCide said:
How is MS funded?ydoethur said:
I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.0 -
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:3 -
Do we think Starmer will vote tactically for the libdems?rottenborough said:People who think Corbyn is fit to be PM #1
https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/11899025625661317122 -
Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than everozymandias said:
Nonsense.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked
The super rich don’t make people poor. In your envy-ridden, green eyed little world maybe. But not in the real world.
They pay more tax every year already than most of us will earn in a lifetime. Without them paying the tax they are legally obliged to pay you’ll find all the little free owls we’re so enamoured with just won’t be there.
When they are their companies flee who’s going to pay for you then? Who’ll be next? The rich evil middle classes I presume?
Socialism is a paralysing, stultifying creed. It’s parasitic.
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer0 -
Well, Corbyn’s a millionaire. Maybe he could slip him fifty big ones?ReggieCide said:
What would it do for Trump?ydoethur said:
If Trump were Machiavellian, and wanted Johnson to win, he should spend all the time emphasising how similar Corbyn is to himself.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .
That way Labour would be struggling to finish fourth.0 -
They had to do a fundraiser to stay afloat a few years ago, I remember that.ReggieCide said:
How is MS funded?ydoethur said:
I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.
Good to see that the editor is salt of the earth working class:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Chacko0 -
But you are quite the Boris fan now, aren't you?, having held him in something close to contempt just a few short months ago. You have been on a 'journey' as they say. Which is always attractive if genuine. For example, on reality TV shows the winner tends to be the one who appears to the viewers to have gone on the biggest journey. Conclusion? If PB was a reality TV show you would be a strong in-running favourite to scoop the prize. Unfortunately it isn't. Yet.Big_G_NorthWales said:They hadn't heard Corbyn Venezeula part 2 speech today. Mad as a box of frogs
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Back in the eighties the Soviet Union subscibed to most of the print run. I remember being in Moscow in ‘86 trying to find out who had won the F1 Championship and Morning Star was the only English Language paper available. Their motorsports coverage was rubbish.ReggieCide said:
How is MS funded?ydoethur said:
I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.
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you do maths too!!!Fysics_Teacher said:
£70 Billion is over ten years, so it should be £7 Billion.Roger said:"Stop Brexit for a brighter future". A bit vague by the Lib Dems. I think I'd go a little more DFS.
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
THE £70 BILLION BREXIT BONUS!!!
EVERY YEAR FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS!!!!0 -
Easy. Just say "Boris?"The_Taxman said:
I think the darkness is a big thing in relation to Tories targeting Labour held seats. Unless volunteers are local and familiar with an area. You would not want to be out in the dark in a deprived area with a Blue rosette!MarqueeMark said:Just done three and a half hours canvassing in Totnes constituency.
We had to give up as it was getting dark - and the gangs of trick or treat kids said they couldn't compete in the horror stakes with a bunch of Tories knocking on doors!
BTW, Dr. Sarah Wollaston's name is mud out there...... Even those who are LibDems raise their eyebrows heavenwards.
The chance of getting glassed by one his ex's there is slight.....0 -
All the dodgers have already gone or at least their cash has, London is not Laundry central for nothing.HYUFD said:
Plus I am sure the US, India, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Macron's France etc will be happy to welcome our billionaires and their tax revenues if we don't want themHYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/11898576381602938880 -
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.0 -
The whole paper has always been a car crash.Fysics_Teacher said:
Back in the eighties the Soviet Union subscibed to most of the print run. I remember being in Moscow in ‘86 trying to find out who had won the F1 Championship and Morning Star was the only English Language paper available. Their motorsports coverage was rubbish.ReggieCide said:
How is MS funded?ydoethur said:
I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.0 -
No way could firms afford it and people could not take a 20% pay cut. Nice thought but would be a disaster.Anabobazina said:What do we all think of a four day week? So much time is wasted on pointless meetings it could be an idea whose time has come.
Get on with the job!0 -
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.1 -
He'll be last off the sinking ship in his own crewed lifeboatnunu2 said:
Do we think Starmer will vote tactically for the libdems?rottenborough said:People who think Corbyn is fit to be PM #1
https://twitter.com/Keir_Starmer/status/11899025625661317121 -
£10 minimum wage for 16 year old is a policy that will create huge youth employment
Most businesses will give youth a chance to learn and develop but if at the same minimum wage as a mature worker they will not get that chance0 -
50 million???ydoethur said:
Well, Corbyn’s a millionaire. Maybe he could slip him fifty big ones?ReggieCide said:
What would it do for Trump?ydoethur said:
If Trump were Machiavellian, and wanted Johnson to win, he should spend all the time emphasising how similar Corbyn is to himself.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .
That way Labour would be struggling to finish fourth.0 -
The same was said in 1997.Big_G_NorthWales said:£10 minimum wage for 16 year old is a policy that will create huge youth employment
Most businesses will give youth a chance to learn and develop but if at the same minimum wage as a mature worker they will not get that chance0 -
Hey, TSE, glad you’re on. You’re a Cambridge educated lawyer. How could Richard Burgon have got a law degree from the place? Is there any explanation that doesn’t include fellatio, bribery or a changeling?TheScreamingEagles said:
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.1 -
seems well suitedAramintaMoonbeamQC said:
They had to do a fundraiser to stay afloat a few years ago, I remember that.ReggieCide said:
How is MS funded?ydoethur said:
I believe it was mostly inherited, although I could be wrong.MarqueeMark said:
What I hear from Corbyn: "Not everyone can be rich - like me."Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
Just how DID you get that wealth, Jeremy?
Worth remembering that although he’s from a wealthy background and had a well-paid job, he got into financial difficulties at one point and had to default on his mortgage. So he can’t have been saving up from way back.
If therefore he didn’t inherit the money, the Morning Star must be paying columnists out of all proportion to a paper with the circulation of a fair-sized nunnery.
Good to see that the editor is salt of the earth working class:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Chacko0 -
I was thinking thousands, but maybe after Macdonnell starts printing money...ReggieCide said:
50 million???ydoethur said:
Well, Corbyn’s a millionaire. Maybe he could slip him fifty big ones?ReggieCide said:
What would it do for Trump?ydoethur said:
If Trump were Machiavellian, and wanted Johnson to win, he should spend all the time emphasising how similar Corbyn is to himself.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .
That way Labour would be struggling to finish fourth.0 -
Mr. Eagles, but there are different levels of pay for younger workers.
Currently an employer weighs up greater experience of older workers versus the lower cost of younger ones. The only advantage younger workers has over those with more experience gets removed with this.0 -
He didn't read Law, he read English Literature at St John's, he must have gotten in as chorister.ydoethur said:
Hey, TSE, glad you’re on. You’re a Cambridge educated lawyer. How could Richard Burgon have got a law degree from the place? Is there any explanation that doesn’t include fellatio, bribery or a changeling?TheScreamingEagles said:
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.1 -
Tbf he himself didn’t say anything about horsesydoethur said:
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.0 -
Tell that to the homelessTheScreamingEagles said:
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.
A good kick in the Arse is the kind of gratitude yo were expecting i assume
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It's a very clean citymalcolmg said:
All the dodgers have already gone or at least their cash has, London is not Laundry central for nothing.HYUFD said:
Plus I am sure the US, India, Hong Kong, Switzerland, Macron's France etc will be happy to welcome our billionaires and their tax revenues if we don't want themHYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
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I am a very genuine person as anyone who knows me will tell youkinabalu said:
But you are quite the Boris fan now, aren't you?, having held him in something close to contempt just a few short months ago. You have been on a 'journey' as they say. Which is always attractive if genuine. For example, on reality TV shows the winner tends to be the one who appears to the viewers to have gone on the biggest journey. Conclusion? If PB was a reality TV show you would be a strong in-running favourite to scoop the prize. Unfortunately it isn't. Yet.Big_G_NorthWales said:They hadn't heard Corbyn Venezeula part 2 speech today. Mad as a box of frogs
But Corbyn today went full on Venezeula today and is not fit to lead our Country0 -
Is Jessica Rebekah's sister...ydoethur said:
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.0 -
A chorister?TheScreamingEagles said:
He didn't read Law, he read English Literature at St John's, he must have gotten in as chorister.ydoethur said:
Hey, TSE, glad you’re on. You’re a Cambridge educated lawyer. How could Richard Burgon have got a law degree from the place? Is there any explanation that doesn’t include fellatio, bribery or a changeling?TheScreamingEagles said:
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.
He can sing?
I would have sworn he had no vocal training whatsoever given the roughness of his diction.
That really is surprising.0 -
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Is that her name? Ooops.Foxy said:
Is Jessica Rebekah's sister...ydoethur said:
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.
Tbf, I have more interesting things to do than follow sleb bitch-slapping. I blame the girls in my form group for such knowledge as I have.0 -
Outside the train station there were a group of people dressed in Halloween costumes handing out People's Vote leaflets, (complete with Halloween sound effects):
https://ibb.co/M8m7bqf
https://ibb.co/nbym85t0 -
It is nonsense for 16 year olds and would close thousands of sme'sTheScreamingEagles said:
The same was said in 1997.Big_G_NorthWales said:£10 minimum wage for 16 year old is a policy that will create huge youth employment
Most businesses will give youth a chance to learn and develop but if at the same minimum wage as a mature worker they will not get that chance0 -
does Nigel Farage have to give up the radio show during the general election?0
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Burgon isn't even halfway to being a half-wit......ydoethur said:
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.0 -
ExactlyMorris_Dancer said:Mr. Eagles, but there are different levels of pay for younger workers.
Currently an employer weighs up greater experience of older workers versus the lower cost of younger ones. The only advantage younger workers has over those with more experience gets removed with this.0 -
Loving the BBC getting their knickers in a twist over Trump. Of course, what Obama did was totally okay.
(Trump's intervention is about as helpful to Boris as Obama's intervention was for Remain).0 -
that's nearly cruelMarqueeMark said:
Burgon isn't even halfway to being a half-wit......ydoethur said:
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.
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Do you recognise the possibility that there must be some stage at which your argument becomes absurd? The differential between CEO and average Joe pay in the US is now 20x what it was in 1965. Is this because CEOs are 20x as productive as they were in the 60s, or were underpaid by a factor of 20 in the 60s, or are we looking at some sort of cartel in which they pay themselves more because they can? If you are happy with the situation now, is there no multiplier - say 200x or 20,000x - at which you will start thinking there may be something fishy going on? If there is something fishy going on, don't you think it would be more owl-productive to stop it altogether, because 100% of a fuck of a lot of money buys more owls than the tax on the same fuck of a lot of money?ozymandias said:
Nonsense.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked
The super rich don’t make people poor. In your envy-ridden, green eyed little world maybe. But not in the real world.
They pay more tax every year already than most of us will earn in a lifetime. Without them paying the tax they are legally obliged to pay you’ll find all the little free owls we’re so enamoured with just won’t be there.
When they are their companies flee who’s going to pay for you then? Who’ll be next? The rich evil middle classes I presume?
Socialism is a paralysing, stultifying creed. It’s parasitic.2 -
I have no idea, I'm speculating.ydoethur said:
A chorister?TheScreamingEagles said:
He didn't read Law, he read English Literature at St John's, he must have gotten in as chorister.ydoethur said:
Hey, TSE, glad you’re on. You’re a Cambridge educated lawyer. How could Richard Burgon have got a law degree from the place? Is there any explanation that doesn’t include fellatio, bribery or a changeling?TheScreamingEagles said:
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.
He can sing?
I would have sworn he had no vocal training whatsoever given the roughness of his diction.
That really is surprising.0 -
It is hard to have sympathy when these rich barstewards are not happy having more money than they could ever spend and still avoid tax, cheat lies steal etc. People are quite happy that people are rich , it the cheating tax etc that gets them.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked0 -
Indeedtlg86 said:Loving the BBC getting their knickers in a twist over Trump. Of course, what Obama did was totally okay.
(Trump's intervention is about as helpful to Boris as Obama's intervention was for Remain).0 -
how can the truth be cruel?ReggieCide said:
that's nearly cruelMarqueeMark said:
Burgon isn't even halfway to being a half-wit......ydoethur said:
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.0 -
Making the rich poorer doesn't help poor.bigjohnowls said:
Tell that to the homelessTheScreamingEagles said:
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.
A good kick in the Arse is the kind of gratitude yo were expecting i assume0 -
You need to get out in the world.spudgfsh said:
how can the truth be cruel?ReggieCide said:
that's nearly cruelMarqueeMark said:
Burgon isn't even halfway to being a half-wit......ydoethur said:
Those goals were more open than Jessica Vardy’s Instagram account.malcolmg said:
How dire can you be for Burley to outwit youCarlottaVance said:
Burgon really is a bit dim, isn’t he? The one about Brown was poor, but the one about horses...just unbelievable. He’s made Diane Abbott look competent.0 -
Are the Tories going to spend the entire election referencing Brexit sound bites or are they actually going to focus on Labour policies (and in a forensic way that will actually be effective). At the moment (although haven’t been paying much attention) I’m getting
“Corbyn says X, Johnson says he delayed Brexit, Corbyn said Y, Johnson says he can’t get Brexit done, Corbyn announces slaughter of the first born, Johnson “but Brexit”...”0 -
You have got it in one there, Malcmalcolmg said:
It is hard to have sympathy when these rich barstewards are not happy having more money than they could ever spend and still avoid tax, cheat lies steal etc. People are quite happy that people are rich , it the cheating tax etc that gets them.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked0 -
Corbyn has such bad ratings, and so obviously prefers being on campaign than any other aspect of the job, that one might almost think he intentionally sees the poll share drop, just so he demonstrate how good he can be at raising it during that crucial 6 weeks. Damn risky.0
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Shame that Corbyn sees nothing wrong with, say, Ian Lavery’s interesting financial arrangements.malcolmg said:
It is hard to have sympathy when these rich barstewards are not happy having more money than they could ever spend and still avoid tax, cheat lies steal etc. People are quite happy that people are rich , it the cheating tax etc that gets them.bigjohnowls said:
So u make the rich super rich and they still use tax avoidance schemes so you have to make the poorest even poorer.ozymandias said:
You don’t make poor people rich by making rich people poor. Easy response.blueblue said:
Are you joking? When Corbyn says "Not everyone can be rich", I hear "I will leave you poor"!Pierrot said:
Corbyn tripped up on a word - "millionaire" instead of "billionaire" - probably accidentally, but to judge from his opponents' response the next time he trips it will be on purpose.HYUFD said:
https://twitter.com/KevinJones26/status/1189887336059998216?s=20rottenborough said:Everyone will be "very wealthy" under Labour says leading Corbynista:
https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888
"Not everyone can be rich." What a great line for winning an election.
And how long will it take for Tory strategists to realise the term "Corbynista" doesn't play well? Labour seems very focused, with the Tories all over the place.
How many people do you think actually want this far-left garbage?
Capitalism is fooked0 -
Do Or Die!!!!!!rottenborough said:
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Having arrived home, Mrs Foxy very impressed by Jezza's campaign launch. Normally she has a low opinion of him.
Having just looked at the highlights, I agree. Jezza in in his element campaigning and working a crowd. The climate crisis might be this elections ace in the hole with the youngsters and a fair number of more senior voters, comparable to tuition fees in 2017.
If he lays into the Tories and not Lib Dems he will get a lot of tactical votes0 -
So are we back to fellatio again?TheScreamingEagles said:
I have no idea, I'm speculating.ydoethur said:
A chorister?TheScreamingEagles said:
He didn't read Law, he read English Literature at St John's, he must have gotten in as chorister.ydoethur said:
Hey, TSE, glad you’re on. You’re a Cambridge educated lawyer. How could Richard Burgon have got a law degree from the place? Is there any explanation that doesn’t include fellatio, bribery or a changeling?TheScreamingEagles said:
Trickle down economics works.bigjohnowls said:Why are the poorest getting poorer and the top 1% richer than ever
Capitalism isnt working for them is it?
Your having a Laffer
The plebs should be grateful.
He can sing?
I would have sworn he had no vocal training whatsoever given the roughness of his diction.
That really is surprising.
Umm, that is, as a possible explanation for his matriculation.0 -
Him saying they would take Scottish NHS under Westminster control will have delighted the Tories in Scotland. That will help them on doorsteps.rottenborough said:
Johnson selling off the NHS could kill his plans to win a majority.nico67 said:
If I was Johnson I’d tell Trump to stay quiet . Labours main message will be to tie Bozo to him in terms of the NHS,The_Taxman said:Trump backs BJ for UK election. Boost for Boris or drag? Trump was on LBC radio according to sky.
The more Trump supports Johnson the more harm it will do him .0
