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Cowards unless they say it publiclyScott_P said:1 -
That’s the one.Noo said:
Do you mean the guy with the glasses? He comes out of it pretty well I think.ydoethur said:
It does always exasperate me though that the one person who had done the job properly and considered the evidence carefully is shown as a stubborn holdout rather than as the exemplar.Noo said:
Great shout. A film worth watching several times.solarflare said:
12 Angry Men?TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...0 -
Old newsScott_P said:0 -
DUP voting against on this first vote apparently.0
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Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.0 -
Intriguing. Thanksralphmalph said:
French Film Special ForcesTOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...0 -
Good evening all. Exciting is it not?0
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Agreed.DougSeal said:
They stand for getting rid of the Tories at the first available opportunity. However, the opportunity is not currently available. Why risk giving the Tories another 5 years when for the sake of a few months or even a couple of years they might win? Why should they give battle at a time of their opponent’s choosing when they know they will be humiliated? Better to wait until a time they have the possibility of victory or, at least, there is at least a marginal uptick in the polls. That day may never come before 2022 - but no one Should fight a battle they know they will lose. Wait for the opportunity. The “coward” line is just Tory baiting.Philip_Thompson said:
Politicians aren't turkeys though. They do need to speak. And Labour aren't acting in isolation. The SNP and LDs will look at the polls and think "game on we will gain seats". If Labour are cowards they would be humiliated not just by the Tories but by the SNP and Lib Dems.DougSeal said:
Turkeys don’t need an excuse not to vote for Christmas. Neither do they worry about looking scared. No rational person would, looking at the polls, call an election when they are doing so badly. The turkeys will hope that something comes up in the future. If you’re going to get cooked anyway why not postpone the inevitable.Philip_Thompson said:
What are the opposition going to say if there is no "no deal" excuse anymore?Danny565 said:
I'm just amazed people seem to have forgotten what happened literally SIX WEEKS AGO, the last time the government tried to "go for an election".Gallowgate said:
A GE is not in the government’s gift.SunnyJim said:There has to be a point where remainer MPs realise they've given overturning the result a good go but the game's up.
If the government pulls the bill and we have a GE then in my view it is very unlikely the composition of the next parliament is going to be as favourable to remainers as this one.
They could vote the deal through and go in to an election on a domestic agenda that actually matters.
If Labour don't stand for having an election to get rid of the Tories then what do they stand for?
I am sure the Tories would want an early election , if behind in the polls.0 -
That's a pretty comfortable majority.0
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329-299.0
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Ayes 329
Noes 299
Government wins, MPs vote for 2nd reading of Withdrawal Agreement0 -
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Looks like all the unknowns went for the deal, and more Lab leavers than expected.0
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Second reading through by thirty. Boris breaks his duck. I think HMG will lose the programme motion by three though.0
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Good Bye Lenin!TOPPING said:
Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.
Comedy about how a son contrives to hide the fall of the Berlin Wall from his communist mother.0 -
Huge vote for the deal. No chance that we won't leave with this deal now.0
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Passed by 30Andrew said:0 -
Might I suggest The Hunt for Red October?0
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DUP abstaining on programme motion. They're sticking in their seats. Government will win that one too.0
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Looks like DUP abstaining on program motion, which means it should pass0
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DUP abstaining here?0
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On the list. ThanksWulfrun_Phil said:
Good Bye Lenin!TOPPING said:
Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.
Comedy about how a son contrives to hide the fall of the Berlin Wall from his communist mother.0 -
Larger win than I expected, but seems a but soon to count chickens for later votes - but I'll change my tune there if the programme motion passes.Scott_P said:0 -
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https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1186708541652066306
And how the hell do they think that is going to work out on the doorstep?
Bonkers
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Well done, Boris Johnson, delivering a deal inferior to May’s on the EU’s terms and somehow fooling people into voting for it.OblitusSumMe said:Huge vote for the deal. No chance that we won't leave with this deal now.
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Thank fvck for thatrottenborough said:0 -
There is a hat tip to Local Hero in my film script.....TOPPING said:
Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.1 -
They have now voted againstrottenborough said:0 -
Riding?Scott_P said:
Wouldn't surprise me, given everything else bonkers that has happened in last two years.0 -
It works fine.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1186708541652066306
And how the hell do they think that is going to work out on the doorstep?
Bonkers
Second reading - agree it's worth looking at the detail.
Third reading - the issues became obvious so I voted against..0 -
Well, if as PM you are FINALLY going to win a vote in Parliament, then getting a majority for a Brexit deal you've negoatiated is a pretty good way to get off the mark....0
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Yes. It's over. But let's make sure he misses 31 Oct by a distance. And no election until the public start to see through him.OblitusSumMe said:Huge vote for the deal. No chance that we won't leave with this deal now.
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They just got up and voted according to Sky News.rottenborough said:0 -
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Ha, classic trolling from the DUP, well played. Gave the government a few seconds of additional hope.Scott_P said:1 -
DUP definitely voting against the programme motion — Sky News.0
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presumably even if all this gets through the Commons in 2.5 days the Lords will have to pass it as well before the MV can take place?0
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I assume the DUP abstained on the first vote. That means 10 MPs who voted in favour on the first vote would have to switch, people like Lisa Nandy.0
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It’s taken four years for them to see through Corbyn and Johnson was more popular to start with. I don’t think we can wait more than four years.kinabalu said:
Yes. It's over. But let's make sure he misses 31 Oct by a distance. And no election until the public start to see through him.OblitusSumMe said:Huge vote for the deal. No chance that we won't leave with this deal now.
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My prediction: government to lose this by 5 to 10 votes.0
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Quite. Nandy has been an infuriating figure in the Brexit debate, but she knows what she is doing.eek said:
It works fine.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1186708541652066306
And how the hell do they think that is going to work out on the doorstep?
Bonkers
Second reading - agree it's worth looking at the detail.
Third reading - the issues became obvious so I voted against..0 -
Bill pulled and VoNC by the SNP it is then.
Letwin has blown both his feet off lol.0 -
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Good luck to Nandy with that. 99.5% of voters do not know what a 2nd reading is.kle4 said:
Quite. Nandy has been an infuriating figure in the Brexit debate, but she knows what she is doing.eek said:
It works fine.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1186708541652066306
And how the hell do they think that is going to work out on the doorstep?
Bonkers
Second reading - agree it's worth looking at the detail.
Third reading - the issues became obvious so I voted against..0 -
"That Sinking Feeling". Before he went all Hollywood.TOPPING said:
Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.0 -
The Death Star cannon is counting down the launch procedure......Scott_P said:
Meanwhile, the Rabble Alliance pop champagne corks on the planet of Alderaan.0 -
Govt tellers on the right1
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I'd agree with the first half of that sentence, but disagree with the secondkle4 said:
Quite. Nandy has been an infuriating figure in the Brexit debate, but she knows what she is doing.eek said:
It works fine.rottenborough said:https://twitter.com/DPJHodges/status/1186708541652066306
And how the hell do they think that is going to work out on the doorstep?
Bonkers
Second reading - agree it's worth looking at the detail.
Third reading - the issues became obvious so I voted against..0 -
Labour whip on wrong side of table to have won...0
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Thanks. Seen itMarqueeMark said:0 -
Spoiler alertOblitusSumMe said:Labour whip on wrong side of table to have won...
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Excellent. Will we ever see that?MarqueeMark said:
There is a hat tip to Local Hero in my film script.....TOPPING said:
Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.1 -
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Government loses is the word on Twitter0
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they swapped at the last minute0
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UH OH0
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They would have lost even if the DUP did abstain.0
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Brexit Bill timetable vote
Government loses this though
Ayes 308
Noes 322
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Looking like it....TOPPING said:
Excellent. Will we ever see that?MarqueeMark said:
There is a hat tip to Local Hero in my film script.....TOPPING said:
Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.0 -
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Election tiiiime0
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Should have shielded the exhaust port...MarqueeMark said:The Death Star cannon is counting down the launch procedure......
Meanwhile, the Rabble Alliance pop champagne corks on the planet of Alderaan.0 -
LolRobD said:0 -
Calling Labour to the slaughterhouse.0
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They voted against. If they'd voted in favour the government would have won.williamglenn said:They would have lost even if the DUP did abstain.
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Ha. Whose right?! From the speaker angle or from behind?ralphmalph said:Govt tellers on the right
I assume that's a loss. Time to see if Boris throws the toys out.
The EU would be within right to offer a short extension on the basis the parliament has approved the principle, but thankfully I don't think they've got the stones for that.0 -
Alderaan is the election planet......Scott_P said:
Should have shielded the exhaust port...MarqueeMark said:The Death Star cannon is counting down the launch procedure......
Meanwhile, the Rabble Alliance pop champagne corks on the planet of Alderaan.0 -
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Fantastic.MarqueeMark said:
Looking like it....TOPPING said:
Excellent. Will we ever see that?MarqueeMark said:
There is a hat tip to Local Hero in my film script.....TOPPING said:
Ha! I have seen it and it's of course marvellous. ThanksRichard_Tyndall said:
Get in touch with your inner Scot.TOPPING said:Ok team 10 minutes to suggest a good film for me to watch tonight. Minus points for anyone who suggests BBC Parliament.
Edit: have I ever said one of my favourite films is Four Lions...
Local Hero.0 -
That was Yavin!Scott_P said:
Should have shielded the exhaust port...MarqueeMark said:The Death Star cannon is counting down the launch procedure......
Meanwhile, the Rabble Alliance pop champagne corks on the planet of Alderaan.0 -
Our national broadcaster says:
"MPs have voted to approve the government's timetable for the remaining stages of the Withdrawal Agreement Bill that they have just backed."0 -
And back to silly buggery....Lets just have a f##king election otherwise this will still be going on in 2119.0
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Just ask for 2 weeks. Then if they vote that down ask for 3 weeks - make it clear whether they are actually seeking time to scrutinise or just don't want to accept any time.williamglenn said:0 -
Ain’t would have been boring if it had been straightforward.0
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Brexit: making people's heads hurt since 2016.0
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BoZo chickens out of pulling the bill0
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So much for ‘die in a ditch’.0
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Boris says he will accelerate preparations for No Deal and discuss with the EU tgeir response to the extension request of Parliament, glad the House has voted for the Withdrawal Agreement Bill but will pause debate on it due to losing the timetable programme vote0
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So Bozo saying no deal is on the table then in the next says one way or another the country will leave with this deal !0
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I can' help thinking it is a huge tactical mistake to allow Boris to go to the country with a deal that the House has voted to approve. If it had all been voted down, he could have been painted as a 100% loser....0
