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Excl: Expelled Tory rebels plotting to oust Boris Johnson as an MP by running a candidate against him in his Uxbridge marginal seathttps://t.co/inaQ9St31N
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First, like the woman in Donny in a battle of wits with Bozo.1
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Boris doing a chicken run.......beyond parody does not quite cover it.....0
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Those intent on playground politics will not fare well in the coming election. It's going to be about clearing them out.1
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Great pic to choose of Farage... that'll be the 2 mins hate poster for the refusetoaccepttheylost-niksCarlottaVance said:In other news.....
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BFC!CarlottaVance said:Boris doing a chicken run.......beyond parody does not quite cover it.....
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I am not convinced pacts, standing down for people and decapitation strategies actually work.. I think this oversimplifies peoples reasons for voting for a particular party and also galvanises the party you are trying to oust and its supporters..
I think it just doesn't look like fair play to the average voter and so it just doesn't wash well.. Its for this reason I oppose a brexit party/tory pact..0 -
Tbh, I don't think this is huge deal, all it does is split the remainer vote even further.0
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Good.....looks like they’ve learned from Gatwick.....
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But if the Tories DID do a deal with BXP would that poison BXP for ex-Labour “will never vote Tory” voters?
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Cry me a river....CarlottaVance said:0 -
Bad idea for Rory to be the one. We need him in Penrith and Border where he is highly regarded and should win against all comers. Goodness knows who will win in Uxbridge but it won't be the 'one nation Tory but not Boris' candidate. A Boris decapitation strategy requires a focus on both Brexit taking votes off Boris, and a Lib/Lab cabal, with an agreement as to which of them is the front runner, doing the same. Only a Lib/Lab candidate can win.1
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Sad.CarlottaVance said:0 -
Carole Codswollap throwing her toys out of the pram?MarqueeMark said:
Cry me a river....CarlottaVance said:
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If Boris did chicken run then Beaconsfield is next door and currently available. Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner is also available.0
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This video has apparently been "demonetised" by YouTube, which means they don't approve of it. It's a couple of British comedians interviewing Andy Ngo about Antifa.
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Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.0
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All very Remainy thought? (question mark deliberate, I haven't checked)GarethoftheVale2 said:If Boris did chicken run then Beaconsfield is next door and currently available. Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner is also available.
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CarlottaVance said:
But if the Tories DID do a deal with BXP would that poison BXP for ex-Labour “will never vote Tory” voters?
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1172526658110328835?s=20
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Mr. JS, an awful lot of stuff gets demonetised on Youtube. Can be videogames (not advertiser-friendly) and I understand even the family-friendly stuff has recently been thrown into the Pit of the Algorithm.0
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F1: Williams will have Mercedes engines until the end of 2025.0
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Yep I've seen that. I quite like triggernometry. This sort of things needs to be engaged with by liberals not ridiculed.AndyJS said:O/T
This video has apparently been "demonetised" by YouTube, which means they don't approve of it. It's a couple of British comedians interviewing Andy Ngo about Antifa.
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fpt for Southam
My sympathies for your courageous sister. She's got the right stuff, that's for sure
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Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
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Another good effort by Archer.dixiedean said:
Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
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Yep - she is unbelievable. She's also been battling cancer for the last two years (successfully it is currently looking like, touch wood). I am in constant awe of her.Byronic said:fpt for Southam
My sympathies for your courageous sister. She's got the right stuff, that's for sure0 -
OT. And these are the same people who until the GE is called consider that they are still deserving of the Conservative whip?0
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Excellent. I'll try harder next time.dixiedean said:
Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
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My guess is that Johnson's vote could go down, but that his majority will go up. The LibDem will take quite a few votes from the Labour candidate, who is Momentum approved and comes with the usual history of anti-Semitic behaviour.algarkirk said:Bad idea for Rory to be the one. We need him in Penrith and Border where he is highly regarded and should win against all comers. Goodness knows who will win in Uxbridge but it won't be the 'one nation Tory but not Boris' candidate. A Boris decapitation strategy requires a focus on both Brexit taking votes off Boris, and a Lib/Lab cabal, with an agreement as to which of them is the front runner, doing the same. Only a Lib/Lab candidate can win.
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Electoral Calculus estimate as follows:Anabobazina said:
All very Remainy thought? (question mark deliberate, I haven't checked)GarethoftheVale2 said:If Boris did chicken run then Beaconsfield is next door and currently available. Ruislip, Northwood and Pinner is also available.
Beaconsfield - 49% leave
Ruslip Northwood - 47% leave
Uxbridge is estimated at 58% leave so much more Brexitty, although a smaller majority0 -
Very strong day for Sterling. With ECB rates going even more negative and the US likely to cut again Sterling does have a bit going for it at the moment.0
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Smith dropped. You're getting closerAnabobazina said:
Excellent. I'll try harder next time.dixiedean said:
Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
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You honestly begin to wonder if Root is going to survive as captain. He needs to get focused on his batting and fielding.dixiedean said:
Smith dropped. You're getting closerAnabobazina said:
Excellent. I'll try harder next time.dixiedean said:
Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
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This is where there is a question about Lib Dem's desire to bring about Remain. They are way third in the seat. If they just do not put up a candidate and so does the Greens, Johnson is in big trouble.SouthamObserver said:
My guess is that Johnson's vote could go down, but that his majority will go up. The LibDem will take quite a few votes from the Labour candidate, who is Momentum approved and comes with the usual history of anti-Semitic behaviour.algarkirk said:Bad idea for Rory to be the one. We need him in Penrith and Border where he is highly regarded and should win against all comers. Goodness knows who will win in Uxbridge but it won't be the 'one nation Tory but not Boris' candidate. A Boris decapitation strategy requires a focus on both Brexit taking votes off Boris, and a Lib/Lab cabal, with an agreement as to which of them is the front runner, doing the same. Only a Lib/Lab candidate can win.
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No offence but is it all really relevant? By your own admission it's due to factors elsewhere.DavidL said:Very strong day for Sterling. With ECB rates going even more negative and the US likely to cut again Sterling does have a bit going for it at the moment.
There hasn't been too much of a shift lately, perhaps hard brexit is factored in? Or maybe markets still don't believe it/are convinced it will be stopped.0 -
Tbf that would have been an excellent catch.DavidL said:
You honestly begin to wonder if Root is going to survive as captain. He needs to get focused on his batting and fielding.dixiedean said:
Smith dropped. You're getting closerAnabobazina said:
Excellent. I'll try harder next time.dixiedean said:
Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
Heard a stat that no England captain had lost 2 Ashes series and kept the job for over 100 years. Need to stop giving the job to our best batsman.0 -
So Boris has encountered two hostile people and that's evidence that everyone in the north hates him?Scott_P said:1 -
The only time Smith has looked anywhere near vulnerable in this series is when Archer is bowling at him at up near 90.0
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He will run, run, run away.SouthamObserver said:
My guess is that Johnson's vote could go down, but that his majority will go up. The LibDem will take quite a few votes from the Labour candidate, who is Momentum approved and comes with the usual history of anti-Semitic behaviour.algarkirk said:Bad idea for Rory to be the one. We need him in Penrith and Border where he is highly regarded and should win against all comers. Goodness knows who will win in Uxbridge but it won't be the 'one nation Tory but not Boris' candidate. A Boris decapitation strategy requires a focus on both Brexit taking votes off Boris, and a Lib/Lab cabal, with an agreement as to which of them is the front runner, doing the same. Only a Lib/Lab candidate can win.
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Not a half chance, though. A genuine drop.dixiedean said:
Tbf that would have been an excellent catch.DavidL said:
You honestly begin to wonder if Root is going to survive as captain. He needs to get focused on his batting and fielding.dixiedean said:
Smith dropped. You're getting closerAnabobazina said:
Excellent. I'll try harder next time.dixiedean said:
Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
Heard a stat that no England captain had lost 2 Ashes series and kept the job for over 100 years. Need to stop giving the job to our best batsman.
Not only being captain, but also playing more cricket than just about anyone else over the last twelve months, has left him looking more than a bit jaded.
Which, for someone who normally looks about eighteen, is a strange look.0 -
I think the latter actually which is why it is relevant. And, as we agree, there is a lot going on elsewhere which is pretty uniformly negative.FrankBooth said:
No offence but is it all really relevant? By your own admission it's due to factors elsewhere.DavidL said:Very strong day for Sterling. With ECB rates going even more negative and the US likely to cut again Sterling does have a bit going for it at the moment.
There hasn't been too much of a shift lately, perhaps hard brexit is factored in? Or maybe markets still don't believe it/are convinced it will be stopped.0 -
If it was me I would be tempted to put it down to rhetoric/rioja/the internet but it wasn't me. It was you and if you as the recipient feel, as you have every right to, that it was not appropriate then he should absolutely apologise.Noo said:0 -
Bring back Brearley. Or Fletcher.dixiedean said:
Tbf that would have been an excellent catch.DavidL said:
You honestly begin to wonder if Root is going to survive as captain. He needs to get focused on his batting and fielding.dixiedean said:
Smith dropped. You're getting closerAnabobazina said:
Excellent. I'll try harder next time.dixiedean said:
Half a success. Wicket. Not Smith. Good effort though.Anabobazina said:Flicked over to the golf in the hope it will bring a Smith wicket at the Oval.
Heard a stat that no England captain had lost 2 Ashes series and kept the job for over 100 years. Need to stop giving the job to our best batsman.
Yes, I know, I know. TBH Can't think of a really captain-ish captain at the moment.0 -
Fine. We've all been there but then apologise.GIN1138 said:0 -
We're only a revoke of Article 50 away from a lovely strong currency again.DavidL said:Very strong day for Sterling. With ECB rates going even more negative and the US likely to cut again Sterling does have a bit going for it at the moment.
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Still getting wickets at the wrong end.
My only other option seems to be boring myself senseless with the Monaco GP highlights on Sky Sports F1.
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Another interpretation of that YouGov table is that, for every 10 Leave voters who voted Labour in 2017, Labour would only have a net lead of 2 were the same voters to vote again now. Overall that is excellent news for the Tories. The equivalent table in Opinium leads to the same conclusion, although the Conservatives have a slightly higher share of Labour Leave voters there and the Brexit Party a lower share.CarlottaVance said:But if the Tories DID do a deal with BXP would that poison BXP for ex-Labour “will never vote Tory” voters?
https://twitter.com/GoodwinMJ/status/1172526658110328835?s=20
The answer to your question is no. Opinium find that with a 4 way choice including Farage, 23% of 2017 Labour Leave voters would prefer Corbyn and 24% Johnson as best PM. When it's reduced to a 2 way choice, the figure is 36% for Johnson and 24% for Corbyn. So overwhelmingly, those who prefer Farage will as a second choice go for Johnson rather than Corbyn.
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Seeing the Cricket and that Australia really are not that good a team except that Steve Smith has scored 33% of their runs, really does make me think of the Tories really not being very good but hoping desperately that Boris, through charisma and campaigning, will cover up for their deficiencies and see them to victory.1
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I think I read somewhere that the Tories outpolled Labour by about 2 to 1 in the wards in Boris's seat in the 2018 Hillingdon council elections, (while it was the other way round in John McDonnell's seat, also in Hillingdon)
I really don't think there is any danger of Boris losing at all. I recall the same arguments being made about Michael Howard supposedly being at risk in 2005 and he won by a country mile.0 -
Probably. And the markets seem to have a feeling it is getting closer.Gallowgate said:
We're only a revoke of Article 50 away from a lovely strong currency again.DavidL said:Very strong day for Sterling. With ECB rates going even more negative and the US likely to cut again Sterling does have a bit going for it at the moment.
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2 in 2 for England.0
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Curran on a hat trick0
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So the plan is to just keep bowling at the other end. Seems to have more potential than most ideas to date.0
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You really are hitting this hard, that people come and say mean things to a politician and that apparntly this is surprising when we know for a fact the country is very very divided. I hope he doesn't win a majority but it is possible and won't all these hilarious sketches seem very silly then.Scott_P said:0 -
As someone who has read this site since the mid 2000s (and who sometimes comments too): I don’t think there’s much to be gained by being censorious about Sean.TOPPING said:
Fine. We've all been there but then apologise.GIN1138 said:
He’s something of a fantasist: I really do doubt he’s living the life he claims to - it’s probably a lot more humble. I hesitate to use other terms.
Adopting his new “Byronic” persona is one thing, but combined with asking the site owners to expunge his previous contributions shows that despite regularly abusing people on this site, he’s probably the most needy contributor. He feels a compulsion to post here.
Is he entertaining? Yes.
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That's exactly my reading of him too.Stonch said:
As someone who has read this site since the mid 2000s (and who sometimes comments too): I don’t think there’s much to be gained by being censorious about Sean.TOPPING said:
Fine. We've all been there but then apologise.GIN1138 said:
He’s something of a fantasist: I really do doubt he’s living the life he claims to - it’s probably a lot more humble. I hesitate to use other terms.
Adopting his new “Byronic” persona is one thing, but combined with asking the site owners to expunge his previous contributions shows that despite regularly abusing people on this site, he’s probably the most needy contributor. He feels a compulsion to post here.
Is he entertaining? Yes.0 -
Hardly a threat if they don't care about winning themselves and just about wrecking someone else's chances.MarqueeMark said:Those intent on playground politics will not fare well in the coming election. It's going to be about clearing them out.
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Have to say he sounds like he could not beat a carpet, just put it down to drink and move on. Be different if he knocked on your door.TOPPING said:
If it was me I would be tempted to put it down to rhetoric/rioja/the internet but it wasn't me. It was you and if you as the recipient feel, as you have every right to, that it was not appropriate then he should absolutely apologise.Noo said:0 -
I think it's 50/50 that he wins a majority. But the DUP will probably help him out again if he falls just short.kle4 said:
You really are hitting this hard, that people come and say mean things to a politician and that apparntly this is surprising when we know for a fact the country is very very divided. I hope he doesn't win a majority but it is possible and won't all these hilarious sketches seem very silly then.Scott_P said:0 -
Boris's campaigning in these Northern seats is spot on. Coming across a few gobshites on the rounds is just what happens and the sympathies of the voters he is after will be with Boris.
These personal engagements provide a very good contrast with Corbyn ranting away at rallies decked with union banners and red flags.1 -
Notwithstanding the legal possibilities of being PM not in the Commons, if the Tories won a majority thanks to BoJo but he lost his own seat, who might be entrusted to take up the baton as the senior Borisite candidate until the man himself got back in somehow?0
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All true but his actions last night were bullying and perhaps illegal. Sean is Sean doesn't cut it.Stonch said:
As someone who has read this site since the mid 2000s (and who sometimes comments too): I don’t think there’s much to be gained by being censorious about Sean.TOPPING said:
Fine. We've all been there but then apologise.GIN1138 said:
He’s something of a fantasist: I really do doubt he’s living the life he claims to - it’s probably a lot more humble. I hesitate to use other terms.
Adopting his new “Byronic” persona is one thing, but combined with asking the site owners to expunge his previous contributions shows that despite regularly abusing people on this site, he’s probably the most needy contributor. He feels a compulsion to post here.
Is he entertaining? Yes.
All he has to do is realise he has upset someone and before he gets stuck into the rioja again apologise.0 -
When, and whose, is the ball to be sandpapered?kle4 said:Seeing the Cricket and that Australia really are not that good a team except that Steve Smith has scored 33% of their runs, really does make me think of the Tories really not being very good but hoping desperately that Boris, through charisma and campaigning, will cover up for their deficiencies and see them to victory.
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Agree Malc but it seems that @Noo is upset and it would be a shame to lose either of them.malcolmg said:
Have to say he sounds like he could not beat a carpet, just put it down to drink and move on. Be different if he knocked on your door.TOPPING said:
If it was me I would be tempted to put it down to rhetoric/rioja/the internet but it wasn't me. It was you and if you as the recipient feel, as you have every right to, that it was not appropriate then he should absolutely apologise.Noo said:0 -
@HYUFD wrote this on a previous thread - “We are in a domestic civil war with diehard Remainers, there is no more room for appeasement as there was not in 1940 either”.
Equating people who want to Remain in the EU with Nazis is, frankly, a disgraceful statement for him to make.
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Not sure what Carrie would feel about that.OldKingCole said:
When, and whose, is the ball to be sandpapered?kle4 said:Seeing the Cricket and that Australia really are not that good a team except that Steve Smith has scored 33% of their runs, really does make me think of the Tories really not being very good but hoping desperately that Boris, through charisma and campaigning, will cover up for their deficiencies and see them to victory.
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Ask Carole Cadwalladr.OldKingCole said:
When, and whose, is the ball to be sandpapered?kle4 said:Seeing the Cricket and that Australia really are not that good a team except that Steve Smith has scored 33% of their runs, really does make me think of the Tories really not being very good but hoping desperately that Boris, through charisma and campaigning, will cover up for their deficiencies and see them to victory.
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If he posted a bit less often he’d be amusing but as it stands HYUFD is making the site less readable. He’s bonkers and also malign. If I was a Smithson I’d ban him.Cyclefree said:@HYUFD wrote this on a previous thread - “We are in a domestic civil war with diehard Remainers, there is no more room for appeasement as there was not in 1940 either”.
Equating people who want to Remain in the EU with Nazis is, frankly, a disgraceful statement for him to make.
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He's just processing the fact that he supports the Labour Party. He's lashing out.Cyclefree said:@HYUFD wrote this on a previous thread - “We are in a domestic civil war with diehard Remainers, there is no more room for appeasement as there was not in 1940 either”.
Equating people who want to Remain in the EU with Nazis is, frankly, a disgraceful statement for him to make.0 -
It's exactly how the first game of the series went as well. The better team has retained the Ashes, but neither are world beaters (though Australia have 2 in their side).DavidL said:So the plan is to just keep bowling at the other end. Seems to have more potential than most ideas to date.
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I was wondering where Sean Fear had goneStonch said:
As someone who has read this site since the mid 2000s (and who sometimes comments too): I don’t think there’s much to be gained by being censorious about Sean.TOPPING said:
Fine. We've all been there but then apologise.GIN1138 said:
He’s something of a fantasist: I really do doubt he’s living the life he claims to - it’s probably a lot more humble. I hesitate to use other terms.
Adopting his new “Byronic” persona is one thing, but combined with asking the site owners to expunge his previous contributions shows that despite regularly abusing people on this site, he’s probably the most needy contributor. He feels a compulsion to post here.
Is he entertaining? Yes.0 -
Been re reading the Scottish Court opinion.
You still favour the SC over ruling it however a few things jumped out which I missed earlier .
The court took particular issue with when the order to prorogue was called . That being whilst the house wasn’t sitting during the summer recess so stopped MPs from passing legislation to restrict it.
The court reasoned that even though a normal recess was due for the conferences MPs vote on that and may have chosen to not have them or shorten the length .
Bizarrely not a single avernment was made , that being a statement of the clear reasons behind the suspension.
It seems as if the government was overly confident that the court would simply rule the matter was not justiciable and simply fought the appeal on that .
This of course blew up in their faces .0 -
Anyone watch the Democratic debate last night?0
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All news articles are tomorrows' chip paper.kle4 said:You really are hitting this hard, that people come and say mean things to a politician and that apparntly this is surprising when we know for a fact the country is very very divided. I hope he doesn't win a majority but it is possible and won't all these hilarious sketches seem very silly then.
Given that BoZo's electoral strategy as far as it can be discerned is predicated on winning Northern seats from Labour, these interactions might inform those wishing to bet on the likely outcomes.0 -
If I was a Smithson, yubby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dibby dum.Stonch said:
If he posted a bit less often he’d be amusing but as it stands HYUFD is making the site less readable. He’s bonkers and also malign. If I was a Smithson I’d ban him.Cyclefree said:@HYUFD wrote this on a previous thread - “We are in a domestic civil war with diehard Remainers, there is no more room for appeasement as there was not in 1940 either”.
Equating people who want to Remain in the EU with Nazis is, frankly, a disgraceful statement for him to make.
In the old days, when tim the election reverse indicator was spamming the site, quoting polling non stop to see off anyone's personal opinion was seen as a good thing
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Describing the woman in Doncaster as a gobshite is ridiculous and insulting.Burgessian said:Boris's campaigning in these Northern seats is spot on. Coming across a few gobshites on the rounds is just what happens and the sympathies of the voters he is after will be with Boris.
These personal engagements provide a very good contrast with Corbyn ranting away at rallies decked with union banners and red flags.
That description could be better applied to the chap she was debating with.1 -
So he was sentenced to transportation for theft.dyedwoolie said:Warner has confirmed he nicked it this morning
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The lack of a signed statement from the Government as to their intentions was a key factor.nico67 said:Bizarrely not a single avernment was made , that being a statement of the clear reasons behind the suspension.
It seems as if the government was overly confident that the court would simply rule the matter was not justiciable and simply fought the appeal on that .
This of course blew up in their faces .
As noted earlier, the Government could potentially influence the outcome of the SC hearing by providing sworn statements now.
No such statement has apparently been provided, from much will be inferred.0 -
Very true Topping , however it is impossible to be on the internet and not have someone giving you a hard time of it. Noo should certainly not stop posting because of it for sure.TOPPING said:
Agree Malc but it seems that @Noo is upset and it would be a shame to lose either of them.malcolmg said:
Have to say he sounds like he could not beat a carpet, just put it down to drink and move on. Be different if he knocked on your door.TOPPING said:
If it was me I would be tempted to put it down to rhetoric/rioja/the internet but it wasn't me. It was you and if you as the recipient feel, as you have every right to, that it was not appropriate then he should absolutely apologise.Noo said:0 -
You must remember the smiling Gordons?Stonch said:
As someone who has read this site since the mid 2000s (and who sometimes comments too): I don’t think there’s much to be gained by being censorious about Sean.TOPPING said:
Fine. We've all been there but then apologise.GIN1138 said:
He’s something of a fantasist: I really do doubt he’s living the life he claims to - it’s probably a lot more humble. I hesitate to use other terms.
Adopting his new “Byronic” persona is one thing, but combined with asking the site owners to expunge his previous contributions shows that despite regularly abusing people on this site, he’s probably the most needy contributor. He feels a compulsion to post here.
Is he entertaining? Yes.
Those were simpler times.0 -
No, he is being exhibited in the national history museum as 'most owned bitch ever on a cricket pitch' his average this series is hilariousSandyRentool said:
So he was sentenced to transportation for theft.dyedwoolie said:Warner has confirmed he nicked it this morning
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He was always a bit eccentric and obsessed with polls and his interpretations of them. But lately, he has gone really ………..Cyclefree said:@HYUFD wrote this on a previous thread - “We are in a domestic civil war with diehard Remainers, there is no more room for appeasement as there was not in 1940 either”.
Equating people who want to Remain in the EU with Nazis is, frankly, a disgraceful statement for him to make.
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But HE is still there.AndyJS said:2 in 2 for England.
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It's the first sign of acceptance of the impending accession of Prime Minister Swinson. Bringer of Liberalism. Breaker of chains.surbiton19 said:
He was always a bit eccentric and obsessed with polls and his interpretations of them. But lately, he has gone really ………..Cyclefree said:@HYUFD wrote this on a previous thread - “We are in a domestic civil war with diehard Remainers, there is no more room for appeasement as there was not in 1940 either”.
Equating people who want to Remain in the EU with Nazis is, frankly, a disgraceful statement for him to make.0 -
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Well with Gove refusing to release documents , messages related to the suspension that’s not a good look . All messages, emails in this context are public record .Scott_P said:
The lack of a signed statement from the Government as to their intentions was a key factor.nico67 said:Bizarrely not a single avernment was made , that being a statement of the clear reasons behind the suspension.
It seems as if the government was overly confident that the court would simply rule the matter was not justiciable and simply fought the appeal on that .
This of course blew up in their faces .
As noted earlier, the Government could potentially influence the outcome of the SC hearing by providing sworn statements now.
No such statement has apparently been provided, from much will be inferred.
The problem is who will sign something if they worry there’s loads of contradictory info out there .
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I'm hoping Australia last a bit longer because I've got a ticket for the final day. The way things are going this could be another 4 day match.surbiton19 said:
But HE is still there.AndyJS said:2 in 2 for England.
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No one wants to sign a sworn affidavit. It tells you everything.nico67 said:
Well with Gove refusing to release documents , messages related to the suspension that’s not a good look . All messages, emails in this context are public record .Scott_P said:
The lack of a signed statement from the Government as to their intentions was a key factor.nico67 said:Bizarrely not a single avernment was made , that being a statement of the clear reasons behind the suspension.
It seems as if the government was overly confident that the court would simply rule the matter was not justiciable and simply fought the appeal on that .
This of course blew up in their faces .
As noted earlier, the Government could potentially influence the outcome of the SC hearing by providing sworn statements now.
No such statement has apparently been provided, from much will be inferred.
The problem is who will sign something if they worry there’s loads of contradictory info out there .0 -
He has a very worrying monomania/idee fixe regarding “diehard remainers”. It comes across as a bit mad.surbiton19 said:
He was always a bit eccentric and obsessed with polls and his interpretations of them. But lately, he has gone really ………..Cyclefree said:@HYUFD wrote this on a previous thread - “We are in a domestic civil war with diehard Remainers, there is no more room for appeasement as there was not in 1940 either”.
Equating people who want to Remain in the EU with Nazis is, frankly, a disgraceful statement for him to make.0
