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Isn’t that more or less an explicit exhortation to stockpile?Scott_P said:0 -
A member of they Irish government is called the Taint-se ?
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So on those figures then at the next general election Northern Ireland would still elect a majority of Unionist MPs (9 DUP and Lady Hermon), with 7 SF Nationalist MPs and 1 Alliance MPTheScreamingEagles said:
The pollster says that is bollocksCatMan said:Interesting if there is another hung parliament:
https://twitter.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1168248511063822336?s=20
https://twitter.com/LucidTalk/status/11682537911851008010 -
YesAlastairMeeks said:Isn’t that more or less an explicit exhortation to stockpile?
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Plague of locusts?Charles said:
I suspect his boss had a wordCasino_Royale said:
I was criticising him only a week ago for looking to convene a citizens assembly and dismissing anyone who favoured a No Deal Brexit, ruling it out entirely.Beibheirli_C said:
As a self-professed die-hard Remainer atheist, I would tell him that wearing a funny collar and clothes does not confer wisdom, nor is there a pipeline of eternal verities coming into his skull from on high.Theuniondivvie said:
Since I didn't post it previously, I don't think it's me who should be checking my drinking.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Yes, you posted it yesterday. Big drinker or something? Not that that's a criticism.Theuniondivvie said:Has this been done? If so I imagine there was a chorus of demands that the silly old fool keep his nose out of matters temporal.
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1168070013707636736?s=20
Maybe he should just stick to matters theological?0 -
Why - don't tell me Corbyn is now frit of an electionGallowgate said:
Depends if they give him an election or make him limp on, emasculated.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Does it matter.Gallowgate said:Well at least we know the majority will be gone this week.
https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1168259785906688000?s=21
Boris is goading the HOC to vonc and will fight on people v parliament, the elite, and the EU overturning their referendum
And if the polls are to be believed he is winning the argument0 -
Id imagine they have already ordered all the barbed wire and ordered the uniforms - and have a cheque from the EU to pay for it all.Big_G_NorthWales said:
It will be interesting what they do at the border in a no deal case.Scott_P said:
It appears the details are top secret so they must have a plan.
Why not just share it and do a deal
I note that the ROI will become a net contributor to the EU after Brexit - ouch.0 -
60/40 not too different to HYUFD’s estimateydoethur said:
So far it's 3-2 not counting HYUFD.Charles said:
Noydoethur said:
Given around a third of Anglicans live in the diocese of London and well over half the rest must live South of Birmingham, that figure surprises me.HYUFD said:
He is only representing his flock, 66% of Anglicans voted LeaveTheuniondivvie said:Has this been done? If so I imagine there was a chorus of demands that the silly old fool keep his nose out of matters temporal.
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1168070013707636736?s=20
Edit - come to think of it, aren't all the Anglicans in this forum Remainers?
(But then I am a Liberal High Anglican)0 -
I am sure you are but like so many you fight your cause without consideration that you may not be correct from time to timeGallowgate said:
I’m a decent person thank you.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.
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Point of order!ydoethur said:
Well, I had an indirect vote as a member of the Church of England. As did others, e.g. Foxy and El Capitano. So I would argue he is actually present due to a more democratic process than most members of the lords. Remember, around 90 of them are there basically because their ancestors spread their legs for the right Monarch.Beibheirli_C said:
So the people - ordinary people like you and me - voted him in to represent them?ydoethur said:
The House of Bishops and more than any other member of the Lords?Beibheirli_C said:
Which constituency did he stand in and how many votes did he get?ydoethur said:
Can I just check - people do know he's a member of Parliament?Casino_Royale said:
I was criticising him only a week ago for looking to convene a citizens assembly and dismissing anyone who favoured a No Deal Brexit, ruling it out entirely.Beibheirli_C said:
As a self-professed die-hard Remainer atheist, I would tell him that wearing a funny collar and clothes does not confer wisdom, nor is there a pipeline of eternal verities coming into his skull from on high.Theuniondivvie said:
Since I didn't post it previously, I don't think it's me who should be checking my drinking.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Yes, you posted it yesterday. Big drinker or something? Not that that's a criticism.Theuniondivvie said:Has this been done? If so I imagine there was a chorus of demands that the silly old fool keep his nose out of matters temporal.
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1168070013707636736?s=20
Maybe he should just stick to matters theological?
I do tolerate the Lords in general, mostly because they tend to act as a brake on some of the dafter legislation the Commons occasionally dreams up, but hereditary Lords and Bishops can go jump in the canal as far as I am concerned.
@Foxy is a Nonconformist, and not in the C of E.0 -
As we have seen many times before the intent of a message from the government and the meaning the public deduce from it are often at odds. But don't worry about it, Johnson and the puppetmaster have it all worked out.AlastairMeeks said:
Isn’t that more or less an explicit exhortation to stockpile?Scott_P said:0 -
It was quite funny when it was commented that while Gauke was on holiday floating on unicorn lilos Cummings was gaming every possibility 24/7 throughout the whole recessAndyJS said:Apparently Dominic Cummings has game-theoried every possible scenario for the next few days and weeks, so if it all goes wrong for the government we'll know how good at game theory he is.
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Let's hope it turns out to be of the Hornby variety.Scott_P said:
Yes, he has gamed a game of chicken against a freight trainAndyJS said:Apparently Dominic Cummings has game-theoried every possible scenario for the next few days and weeks, so if it all goes wrong for the government we'll know how good he is at game theory.
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Yes it isAlastairMeeks said:
Isn’t that more or less an explicit exhortation to stockpile?Scott_P said:0 -
There's nothing especially decent about declaring no one give a shit about burning the national flag.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am sure you are but like so many you fight your cause without consideration that you may not be correct from time to timeGallowgate said:
I’m a decent person thank you.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.0 -
Late to the party but I would also take this if offered now, despite wanting a referendum personally. My main motivation is stopping the Settled Ststus scheme, so I could never get behind the negotiated deal or see it as a compromise, but EEA would get us over the line and begin to take the heat out of the argument which is boiling over right now.Casino_Royale said:Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.
I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.
Is there still hope?
Then after a few years we could see whether we felt we had it right, we wanted to move further away, or felt that we'd made a mistake and look to rejoin.
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But that's 60/40 Remain, so the opposite of what HYUFD said. However, seems I was mistaken about one:Charles said:60/40 not too different to HYUFD’s estimate
So that makes it 50/50 with HYUFD swinging around more than a priest in a...let's not go there.Foxy said:Point of order!
@Foxy is a Nonconformist, and not in the C of E.0 -
Thanks. It is a very good article and underlines how difficult it is going to be for the rebels to prevent No Deal.Scott_P said:0 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeBy3_xqYtMLuckyguy1983 said:
Let's hope it turns out to be of the Hornby variety.Scott_P said:
Yes, he has gamed a game of chicken against a freight trainAndyJS said:Apparently Dominic Cummings has game-theoried every possible scenario for the next few days and weeks, so if it all goes wrong for the government we'll know how good he is at game theory.
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I agree, hence my commentsteve_garner said:
There's nothing especially decent about declaring no one give a shit about burning the national flag.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am sure you are but like so many you fight your cause without consideration that you may not be correct from time to timeGallowgate said:
I’m a decent person thank you.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.0 -
I do my upmost to not make any absolute statements of fact but rather suggest that maybe it’s not the whole story.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am sure you are but like so many you fight your cause without consideration that you may not be correct from time to timeGallowgate said:
I’m a decent person thank you.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.
Maybe in this case I should have started my comment with ‘many’.0 -
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Feel free to add me to the list of Anglican Leavers.ydoethur said:
But that's 60/40 Remain, so the opposite of what HYUFD said. However, seems I was mistaken about one:Charles said:60/40 not too different to HYUFD’s estimate
So that makes it 50/50 with HYUFD swinging around more than a priest in a...let's not go there.Foxy said:Point of order!
@Foxy is a Nonconformist, and not in the C of E.0 -
…..which has been refused. As everyone, including Boris, knew it would be.HYUFD said:No, as Boris still wants to pass the Withdrawal Agreement to move to a FTA while replacing the backstop with a technical solution ……...
He's not even trying for the WA, it was never even remotely a serious proposal from him.0 -
The threat to sack a bunch of Tory MPs seems somewhat cavalier for a PM with a majority of 1...0
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Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"0 -
Has Cummings gamed the possibility that No Deal will be an economic disaster?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It was quite funny when it was commented that while Gauke was on holiday floating on unicorn lilos Cummings was gaming every possibility 24/7 throughout the whole recessAndyJS said:Apparently Dominic Cummings has game-theoried every possible scenario for the next few days and weeks, so if it all goes wrong for the government we'll know how good at game theory he is.
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Maybe you shouldn’t be such a snowflake ❄️?steve_garner said:
There's nothing especially decent about declaring no one give a shit about burning the national flag.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am sure you are but like so many you fight your cause without consideration that you may not be correct from time to timeGallowgate said:
I’m a decent person thank you.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.0 -
I very much doubt he cares, sadlyBenpointer said:
Has Cummings gamed the possibility that No Deal will be an economic disaster?Big_G_NorthWales said:
It was quite funny when it was commented that while Gauke was on holiday floating on unicorn lilos Cummings was gaming every possibility 24/7 throughout the whole recessAndyJS said:Apparently Dominic Cummings has game-theoried every possible scenario for the next few days and weeks, so if it all goes wrong for the government we'll know how good at game theory he is.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSANTRnEBggsteve_garner said:
There's nothing especially decent about declaring no one give a shit about burning the national flag.Big_G_NorthWales said:
I am sure you are but like so many you fight your cause without consideration that you may not be correct from time to timeGallowgate said:
I’m a decent person thank you.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.0 -
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"0 -
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You cannot get away with that line for much longer. If he wanted any of those those things he’d be pushing for enough time to get them in place - something impossible to do before 31 October. You know there is no “technical solution” as well as anyone or you would have told us what it is by now. It’s just the same tired phrases that mean nothing “Diehard Remainers”, “points based”, “technical solutions”. There is no “technical solution”.HYUFD said:
No, as Boris still wants to pass the Withdrawal Agreement to move to a FTA while replacing the backstop with a technical solution so the whole UK leaves the single market and customs union and replaces free movement with a points system and can do its own trade deals and is free of control from European courtsDougSeal said:
Well, no. It’s respecting the first and last bullet points in this part of the Leave pitch that Johnson is betraying Leave voters by ignoring-HYUFD said:
Vote Leave campaigned for a points system to replace free movement and to do our own trade deals, if you voted Leave that was the official campaign platform for Leave you were voting for. It has to be tried first to respect the Leave vote, staying in the Single Market and Customs Union does not deliver itBenpointer said:
"...what Leave voters really voted for" Now there's a thing.HYUFD said:
In 10 years maybe but we have to deliver the Vote Leave campaign to replace free movement from the EU with a points system first as well as doing our own tradeCasino_Royale said:
That's probably the biggest blocker. But I think migration from the EU is decreasing in salience as an issue and an emergency brake would cover it.HYUFD said:
I woukd be willingCasino_Royale said:Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-
It's incredible the way some people are self-appointing themselves as the only true diviners of what 17m people voted for.
https://news.sky.com/story/technological-solution-to-irish-border-issue-could-be-a-decade-away-says-home-office-document-11696337
We already have a “points system” for non EEA nationals that is has failed completely and no proposals have been put forward for a new one that is.
https://capx.co/britains-immigration-isnt-fit-for-purpose/
It’s all empty phrases, all of it. It’s all you have. You can persuade huge numbers of people by telling them nice things they love to hear but you can’t deliver any of it.0 -
williamglenn said:
We can rule that out then.0 -
Not at all. Some of them are behaving like opposition MPs whilst retaining the Whip. It's time for them to choose and live with the consequences.Scott_P said:The threat to sack a bunch of Tory MPs seems somewhat cavalier for a PM with a majority of 1...
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I do think Boris would put an 11th hour offer from the EU of the WA sans-BStop to parliament.Andrew said:
…..which has been refused. As everyone, including Boris, knew it would be.HYUFD said:No, as Boris still wants to pass the Withdrawal Agreement to move to a FTA while replacing the backstop with a technical solution ……...
He's not even trying for the WA, it was never even remotely a serious proposal from him.
At the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious I think the likelihood of that is pretty remote.
That leaves no-deal or a GE...there are no other outs for Boris.0 -
It is a superb piece of political machinations.Scott_P said:The threat to sack a bunch of Tory MPs seems somewhat cavalier for a PM with a majority of 1...
Those Tory ultra-remainers were never going to be loyal Boris supporters whilst he was PM regardless of the outcome of Brexit.
He has given them the option of taking the knee or being politically neutered...and I think you will be surprised about how many choose the former.
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And Good Brie?Benpointer said:
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"0 -
I have been saying this for dayswilliamglenn said:
The whole strategy is so obvious and it is not just conservatives rebels who need to fear their deselection and a GE but a good number of independents and labour mps in leave areas will be bidding farewell to their careers1 -
By that measure Boris, Rees-Mogg et al should have the whip withdrawn as they voted against the WA...steve_garner said:
Not at all. Some of them are behaving like opposition MPs whilst retaining the Whip. It's time for them to choose and live with the consequences.Scott_P said:The threat to sack a bunch of Tory MPs seems somewhat cavalier for a PM with a majority of 1...
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If thy lose the whip, BoZo is the one that's politically neutered...CaptainBuzzkill said:He has given them the option of taking the knee or being politically neutered...and I think you will be surprised about how many choose the former.
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Ah well, there I have to disagree with you... Somerset brie is very good (at least the one they sell in Waitrose is).SandyRentool said:
And Good Brie?Benpointer said:
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"0 -
SandyRentool said:
And Good Brie?Benpointer said:
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"
It might be Good Brie to All That in 2 months time
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I bought 10l of olive oil today. Plus loo paper [ I think 4 x 16 ] and lots of water.Benpointer said:
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"
Just the start.
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His boss is the Supreme GovernorLuckyguy1983 said:
Plague of locusts?Charles said:
I suspect his boss had a wordCasino_Royale said:
I was criticising him only a week ago for looking to convene a citizens assembly and dismissing anyone who favoured a No Deal Brexit, ruling it out entirely.Beibheirli_C said:
As a self-professed die-hard Remainer atheist, I would tell him that wearing a funny collar and clothes does not confer wisdom, nor is there a pipeline of eternal verities coming into his skull from on high.Theuniondivvie said:
Since I didn't post it previously, I don't think it's me who should be checking my drinking.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Yes, you posted it yesterday. Big drinker or something? Not that that's a criticism.Theuniondivvie said:Has this been done? If so I imagine there was a chorus of demands that the silly old fool keep his nose out of matters temporal.
https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1168070013707636736?s=20
Maybe he should just stick to matters theological?0 -
Indeed, the No Deal Government advertising is conveniently times as well!Big_G_NorthWales said:
I have been saying this for dayswilliamglenn said:
The whole strategy is so obvious and it is not just conservatives rebels who need to fear their deselection and a GE but a good number of independents and labour mps in leave areas will be bidding farewell to their careers 0 -
Yes, I am sure you were all for applying the same standards to the ERG earlier in the year.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I do think Boris would put an 11th hour offer from the EU of the WA sans-BStop to parliament.Andrew said:
…..which has been refused. As everyone, including Boris, knew it would be.HYUFD said:No, as Boris still wants to pass the Withdrawal Agreement to move to a FTA while replacing the backstop with a technical solution ……...
He's not even trying for the WA, it was never even remotely a serious proposal from him.
At the risk of sounding like Captain Obvious I think the likelihood of that is pretty remote.
That leaves no-deal or a GE...there are no other outs for Boris.0 -
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Until last week I thought that we were fortunate enough to be living in a free society where burning the national flag would result in nothing more than a tut tut and a frown.
Now, with Bozo's Stasi tendencies, it will probably get you locked up like it does in numerous other dictatorships.1 -
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To be fair it is difficult because the 'rebels' don't know what they want (only what they don't), don't know who should lead them, don't know if they have the numbers, and don't know who should form the new government following VONC. Apart from that they are coherent and organised. And good at blaming the other side for using every tactic in the book, just like themselves.Benpointer said:
Thanks. It is a very good article and underlines how difficult it is going to be for the rebels to prevent No Deal.Scott_P said:
Oh yes, and they may also have forgotten that government policy is to get a deal, not no deal.
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I was the third C of E who said they were a leaverydoethur said:
But that's 60/40 Remain, so the opposite of what HYUFD said. However, seems I was mistaken about one:Charles said:60/40 not too different to HYUFD’s estimate
So that makes it 50/50 with HYUFD swinging around more than a priest in a...let's not go there.Foxy said:Point of order!
@Foxy is a Nonconformist, and not in the C of E.0 -
May did not make it an issue of confidence so your point is irrelevant.The_Taxman said:
By that measure Boris, Rees-Mogg et al should have the whip withdrawn as they voted against the WA...steve_garner said:
Not at all. Some of them are behaving like opposition MPs whilst retaining the Whip. It's time for them to choose and live with the consequences.Scott_P said:The threat to sack a bunch of Tory MPs seems somewhat cavalier for a PM with a majority of 1...
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Bloody hell - Rory Stewart. "I'm Sparticus!" Top marks that man!Scott_P said:
He's the only Tory I could vote for.1 -
Well say what you like, this is bringing it to a headGallowgate said:0 -
I think on Tuesday Boris loses his majority
https://twitter.com/RoryStewartUK/status/11682663437932216320 -
There are always a few idiots, but the plethora of Union Flags at #Peoplesvote marches amongst the other flags shows that there are plenty of patriotic Remainers.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.0 -
I'm a C of E Remainer, just saying.Charles said:
I was the third C of E who said they were a leaverydoethur said:
But that's 60/40 Remain, so the opposite of what HYUFD said. However, seems I was mistaken about one:Charles said:60/40 not too different to HYUFD’s estimate
So that makes it 50/50 with HYUFD swinging around more than a priest in a...let's not go there.Foxy said:Point of order!
@Foxy is a Nonconformist, and not in the C of E.0 -
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You can be patriotic but still not care about a few idiots burning a flag. Flag waving is just naff anyway.Foxy said:
There are always a few idiots, but the plethora of Union Flags at #Peoplesvote marches amongst the other flags shows that there are plenty of patriotic Remainers.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.0 -
In that case, cancel the revolution.Benpointer said:
Ah well, there I have to disagree with you... Somerset brie is very good (at least the one they sell in Waitrose is).SandyRentool said:
And Good Brie?Benpointer said:
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"
BTW I always refer to 'Good Brie' in homage to the Catherine Tate sketch.0 -
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Upto minus circa 20eek said:I think on Tuesday Boris loses his majority
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I’m prepared to drive to Penrith to campaign for him if it comes to that. An honest, intelligent, reasoned man who’s willing to actually listen apparently has no place in the Tory party.Benpointer said:
Bloody hell - Rory Stewart. "I'm Sparticus!" Top marks that man!Scott_P said:
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Ah - apols.SandyRentool said:
In that case, cancel the revolution.Benpointer said:
Ah well, there I have to disagree with you... Somerset brie is very good (at least the one they sell in Waitrose is).SandyRentool said:
And Good Brie?Benpointer said:
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"
BTW I always refer to 'Good Brie' in homage to the Catherine Tate sketch.
Even though I like the Catherine Tate sketches I have seen, I somehow missed most of her stuff, so I probably fell into that one.
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Tens of thousands do that daily in our country with the EU flag - so naff as well !!!!Gallowgate said:
You can be patriotic but still not care about a few idiots burning a flag. Flag waving is just naff anyway.Foxy said:
There are always a few idiots, but the plethora of Union Flags at #Peoplesvote marches amongst the other flags shows that there are plenty of patriotic Remainers.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
People don’t give a sh*t mate. It’s just a flag and incredibly unbritish to get your knickers in a twist over.0 -
In your dreams...basicbridge said:A GE which Johnson will win.....
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I don’t disagree.Big_G_NorthWales said:
Tens of thousands do that daily in our country with the EU flag - so naff as well !!!!Gallowgate said:
You can be patriotic but still not care about a few idiots burning a flag. Flag waving is just naff anyway.Foxy said:
There are always a few idiots, but the plethora of Union Flags at #Peoplesvote marches amongst the other flags shows that there are plenty of patriotic Remainers.CaptainBuzzkill said:
I have a feeling you're projecting your sense of right and wrong on to decent people.Gallowgate said:
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We have passed the point of relevancy for routine parliamentary business.Scott_P said:
If thy lose the whip, BoZo is the one that's politically neutered...CaptainBuzzkill said:He has given them the option of taking the knee or being politically neutered...and I think you will be surprised about how many choose the former.
This is coming to a head in the next week or so and those Tories not standing down at the next GE will be faced with the question about whether they support the EU or they support 17m+ of their own citizens.
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Will the back me or get the sack really crack the opposition?Scott_P said:
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Really - what evidence do you have for this?SandyRentool said:Until last week I thought that we were fortunate enough to be living in a free society where burning the national flag would result in nothing more than a tut tut and a frown.
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Rory will be an excellent addition to the Lib Dem's.Benpointer said:
Bloody hell - Rory Stewart. "I'm Sparticus!" Top marks that man!
He's the only Tory I could vote for.
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In your dreams...basicbridge said:A GE which Johnson will win.....
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Tories 6/4 to have an overall majority....0
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Ah - apols.SandyRentool said:
In that case, cancel the revolution.Benpointer said:
Ah well, there I have to disagree with you... Somerset brie is very good (at least the one they sell in Waitrose is).SandyRentool said:
And Good Brie?Benpointer said:
Anchovies and olive oil - neither of which can be home grown AFAIKAlistair said:
Which is why we have laid down a store of capers and other middle class luxuries. Our Brexit stockpile is extensive and deliciousFoxy said:
I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.JBriskinindyref2 said:
Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.RobD said:
What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.CatMan said:Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons
"However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"
BTW I always refer to 'Good Brie' in homage to the Catherine Tate sketch.
Even though I like the Catherine Tate sketches I have seen, I somehow missed most of her stuff, so I probably fell into that one.
Still, am I bovvered?
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They support 60m+ of their own citizens. That’s why they want to avoid ‘no deal’.CaptainBuzzkill said:
We have passed the point of relevancy for routine parliamentary business.Scott_P said:
If thy lose the whip, BoZo is the one that's politically neutered...CaptainBuzzkill said:He has given them the option of taking the knee or being politically neutered...and I think you will be surprised about how many choose the former.
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Hammond, Gauke and Grieve were finished anyway.Scott_P said:
Their refusal to accept the democratic will of 17m+ has left them diminished and tarnished such that they are electoral poison.0 -
Fill your boots.basicbridge said:Tories 6/4 to have an overall majority....
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I think he has a good chance especially if Farage agrees a pact with himScott_P said:
In your dreams...basicbridge said:A GE which Johnson will win.....
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