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Votes Cast, % Share, Change in votes and Seats : August 2019 Liberal Democrats 6,218 votes (33.94% +5.23% on last time) winning 5 seats (+1 seat on last time) Conservatives 5,362 votes (29.27% -2.66% on last time) winning 2 seats (-1 on last time) Labour 2,951 votes (16.11% -10.04% on last time) winning 0 seats (-1 on last time) Scottish National Party 1,582 votes (8.63% +2.88% on last time) winning 1 seat (unchanged on last time) Local Independents 824 votes (4.50%) winning 1 seat (+1 on last time) Green Party 779 votes (4.25% -0.05% on last time) winning 0 seats (unchanged on last time) Independent candidates 333 votes (1.82%) winning 0 seats (unchanged on last time) Brexit Party 163 votes (0.89%) winning 0 seats United Kingdom Independence Party 68 votes (0.53% -1.88% on last time) winning 0 seats (unchanged on last time) Other Parties 12 votes (0.07% -0.78% on last time) winning 0 seats (unchanged on last time) Liberal Democrat lead of 856 votes (4.67%) on a swing of 3.95% from Con to Lib Dem

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  • First like the LibDems
  • dixiedeandixiedean Posts: 29,414
    First?
  • Thanks for this, Mr. Hayfield.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    Governments win elections, they also have the power to lose them.

    Governments can spend their way to victory or mitigating defeat. They can cut taxes, increase spending or just advertise themselves to victory.

    In the 2010 General election and the period leading up to it there was a government advertising blitz that was within the rules but ethically speaking questionable. Should Government advertising be used in the run up to a General Election in a way to try and boost the incumbent’s possibility of electoral victory?

    The same dilemma approaches now as the Government, which has not been directed elected by the people embarks on an advertising blitz, which has the potential to coincide with the calling of a General Election. I think an unelected Government is plain wrong to promote No Deal at public expense when the real reason for doing so is a blatant attempt to boost the Governments polling.

    The media output of the Brexit supporting press has been producing stories on a daily basis to boost Boris Johnson and hence support the Tories. Indeed, the propaganda has gone into overdrive.

    I have come to the conclusion given the misuse of public funds by the Conservative party for blatant propaganda on No Deal that the only way to deal with the PM is to remove him from office rather than trying to change legislation.
  • FregglesFreggles Posts: 3,486
    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    At first I thought you had an extreme autocorrect malfunction
  • ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    Freggles said:

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    At first I thought you had an extreme autocorrect malfunction
    Well, I have been having problems. For some reason it has changed 'were' to 'we're' every time I've typed it.

    But the punning was just awesomeness.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
    Mr Eagles, there's always time for a good pun.

    As for delays on the way to Old Trafford, perhaps you could suggest they find a way to stop Cummins, Smith and Labushagne from getting to the ground so Australia have to play Marsh, Bancroft and Wade?
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    Daily Mail has an interesting Electoral machine article, which probably does not tell us anything we did not already know:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7413661/Tory-Labour-parties-recruitment-drive-campaign-staff-marginal-areas.html
  • Trebles all round if you got on yesterday's Brisky train. RIP Antonio
  • F1: Albon-Perez incident being investigated by the stewards.
  • Mr. Briskin, congrats.

    Worth noting the Mercedes had better pace, but difficult passing, and was kinder on its tyres. Rather close at the end.
  • Mr. Briskin, congrats.

    Worth noting the Mercedes had better pace, but difficult passing, and was kinder on its tyres. Rather close at the end.

    Thanks Morris, twas a nailbiter indeed
  • Labour 2,951 votes (16.11% -10.04% on last time) winning 0 seats (-1 on last time)

    Wow - quite the pincer movement in the shires.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,236
    edited September 2019

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
    And arrive three days late ?


    At the wrong address...
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,236
    I did warn you not to rely on Mercedes unreliability...
    But well done on the Hamilton tip - an excellent and probably otherwise unidentified bet.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,236
    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
    Mr Eagles, there's always time for a good pun.

    As for delays on the way to Old Trafford, perhaps you could suggest they find a way to stop Cummins, Smith and Labushagne from getting to the ground so Australia have to play Marsh, Bancroft and Wade?
    Might I suggest Yodel ?
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,060
    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
    Mr Eagles, there's always time for a good pun.

    As for delays on the way to Old Trafford, perhaps you could suggest they find a way to stop Cummins, Smith and Labushagne from getting to the ground so Australia have to play Marsh, Bancroft and Wade?
    Might I suggest Yodel ?
    Surely ER's preferred destination would rather be Yokel?
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065
    Afd in comfortable second place in both Brandenburg and Sachsen
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    FDP on 4,8 in both states, a nailbiting few hours for them.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    I take it those dashes are not minus signs?

    Because otherwise that's a hell of a confusing result.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979
    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    If a GE is called I think it a bit off that £100 million of public funds will be used promoting the No Deal message Boris Johnson and the Tories will be campaigning on for the whole of the GE campaign. :wink:
  • What’s Jeremy Hunt doing these days?
    Hunkering down in a Mexican exile?
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    edited September 2019
    Brandenburg

    SPD - 27.5
    AfD - 22.5
    CDU - 15.5
    Linke - 11
    Green -10
    Free Voters - 5

    FDP 4.8
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    eristdoof said:

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    FDP on 4,8 in both states, a nailbiting few hours for them.
    yes.

    but Merkel has managed to top poll in Saxony which was looking shaky two weeks ago

    Of course we await some actual counting, this is just guessing so far.!
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,236
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
    Mr Eagles, there's always time for a good pun.

    As for delays on the way to Old Trafford, perhaps you could suggest they find a way to stop Cummins, Smith and Labushagne from getting to the ground so Australia have to play Marsh, Bancroft and Wade?
    Might I suggest Yodel ?
    Surely ER's preferred destination would rather be Yokel?
    I realise Her Majesty is adept at adapting to the times, but that’s possibly a step too far.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    ydoethur said:

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    I take it those dashes are not minus signs?

    Because otherwise that's a hell of a confusing result.
    Schrodingers exit poll :-)
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065
    Just to make it clear the German state figuers are exit polls. However the exit polls are usually very accurate, beacause of the proportional nature of the "second vote", and it is the "second vote" results being quoted here.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,060
    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    I'm just thinking how many people who fit into that category voted Leave. I'm guessing more than 52%.
  • ydoethurydoethur Posts: 71,426
    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
    Mr Eagles, there's always time for a good pun.

    As for delays on the way to Old Trafford, perhaps you could suggest they find a way to stop Cummins, Smith and Labushagne from getting to the ground so Australia have to play Marsh, Bancroft and Wade?
    Might I suggest Yodel ?
    Surely ER's preferred destination would rather be Yokel?
    I realise Her Majesty is adept at adapting to the times, but that’s possibly a step too far.
    I don't know. She lives in Sandringham so one important qualification has already been attained.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    eristdoof said:

    Just to make it clear the German state figuers are exit polls. However the exit polls are usually very accurate, beacause of the proportional nature of the "second vote", and it is the "second vote" results being quoted here.

    Die Linke seem to have taken most of the hits.
  • RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
  • NigelbNigelb Posts: 71,236
    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    Nigelb said:

    ydoethur said:

    ydoethur said:

    That's intriguing. I make an awesome pun on Extinction Rebellion and TSE hurriedly puts up a new thread.

    This is no time for puns, if they delay me getting to the Old Trafford test I'm going postal.
    Mr Eagles, there's always time for a good pun.

    As for delays on the way to Old Trafford, perhaps you could suggest they find a way to stop Cummins, Smith and Labushagne from getting to the ground so Australia have to play Marsh, Bancroft and Wade?
    Might I suggest Yodel ?
    Surely ER's preferred destination would rather be Yokel?
    I realise Her Majesty is adept at adapting to the times, but that’s possibly a step too far.
    I don't know. She lives in Sandringham so one important qualification has already been attained.
    Point.

    Anyway, as ever, dinner calls, and I have cannelloni to stuff.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    This is the part when @HYUFD tells us how great it is that AFD are doing well and how this shows that Boris must be equivalent to the 2nd coming.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751
    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Provided you don't need to eat or take any medicines.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    This is the part when @HYUFD tells us how great it is that AFD are doing well and how this shows that Boris must be equivalent to the 2nd coming.
    The AfD vote has jumped +18% in Saxony and +10% in Brandenburg but they have no chance of going in to government. Both states will end up with traffic light coalitions.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,724

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    eristdoof said:

    Just to make it clear the German state figuers are exit polls. However the exit polls are usually very accurate, beacause of the proportional nature of the "second vote", and it is the "second vote" results being quoted here.

    Die Linke seem to have taken most of the hits.
    Yep, Die Linke are not the only party to lose votes but from 19% to 10.5% in Sachsen is really bad. CDU and SPD lost votes in both states as well.

    I think SPD can be moderately happy in BB as they managed to hold onto 1st place comfortably and probably just as important the national switch from SPD to Greens is minimal, infact I reckon most of the Greens' gains will have come from die Linke.
  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    edited September 2019
    eristdoof said:

    eristdoof said:

    Just to make it clear the German state figuers are exit polls. However the exit polls are usually very accurate, beacause of the proportional nature of the "second vote", and it is the "second vote" results being quoted here.

    Die Linke seem to have taken most of the hits.
    Yep, Die Linke are not the only party to lose votes but from 19% to 10.5% in Sachsen is really bad. CDU and SPD lost votes in both states as well.

    I think SPD can be moderately happy in BB as they managed to hold onto 1st place comfortably and probably just as important the national switch from SPD to Greens is minimal, infact I reckon most of the Greens' gains will have come from die Linke.
    yes the SPD sort of needed a break. Their performance nationally is dismal as the greens are taking their voters.

    However the result shows how much the East diverges from the West.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    This is the part when @HYUFD tells us how great it is that AFD are doing well and how this shows that Boris must be equivalent to the 2nd coming.
    The AfD vote has jumped +18% in Saxony and +10% in Brandenburg but they have no chance of going in to government. Both states will end up with traffic light coalitions.
    Traffic light coalition is impossible if the FDP don't get 5%,
    and in Sachsen the CDU wil surely be in the state government and have the Ministerpresident.
  • RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    That is dire for the"official" opposition
  • FloaterFloater Posts: 14,207
    Chris said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Provided you don't need to eat or take any medicines.
    Someone needs to do some growing up.

    No food, seriously?

  • AlanbrookeAlanbrooke Posts: 25,413
    eristdoof said:

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    This is the part when @HYUFD tells us how great it is that AFD are doing well and how this shows that Boris must be equivalent to the 2nd coming.
    The AfD vote has jumped +18% in Saxony and +10% in Brandenburg but they have no chance of going in to government. Both states will end up with traffic light coalitions.
    Traffic light coalition is impossible if the FDP don't get 5%,
    and in Sachsen the CDU wil surely be in the state government and have the Ministerpresident.
    Sorry meant mult-colour coalitions. SA will be CDU led, BB SPD led. BB looks the hardxest to get a coalition but probably SPD\CDU\Green
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751
    Floater said:

    Chris said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Provided you don't need to eat or take any medicines.
    Someone needs to do some growing up.

    No food, seriously?

    We'll see.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936
    Chris said:

    Floater said:

    Chris said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Provided you don't need to eat or take any medicines.
    Someone needs to do some growing up.

    No food, seriously?

    We'll see.
    Either farmers are going to go out of business because they can't export, or the supermarkets shelves are going to be empty.
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    Its good that "you wouldn't expect" food shortages. But forgive the rest of us if we don't stake our life on that.
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,060


    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs

    Drinking Carling is a far worse crime than voting Leave ;)
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065
    CatMan said:


    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs

    Drinking Carling is a far worse crime than voting Leave ;)
    After 24 hours you are free of the effects of drinking Carling.
  • RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
    It's brewed in the UK
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
    Add a dash of lime to make Carling palatable. ;)
  • ChrisChris Posts: 11,751
    RobD said:

    Chris said:

    Floater said:

    Chris said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Provided you don't need to eat or take any medicines.
    Someone needs to do some growing up.

    No food, seriously?

    We'll see.
    Either farmers are going to go out of business because they can't export, or the supermarkets shelves are going to be empty.
    And you really haven't a clue what's going to happen, have you?
  • RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Squirrel is apparently very nice, particularly cooked in madeira, and as they are classified as vermin, we should eat more of them
  • Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?
  • RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
    It's brewed in the UK
    Yeah I know - that's why I drink it

    #Carling4Tennents4indyref2

    But if all the continental beer drinkers have to make the switch there might be shortages and I might die
  • CatManCatMan Posts: 3,060

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    I'd be willing to accept it, and I too am a die hard ultra mega super Remainer.
  • Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    You’re willing to accept vassalage? What’s the point?
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065

    eristdoof said:

    Voting in Saxony exit poll %

    CDU -32
    AfD - 27.5
    Linke 10.5
    Green -9
    SPD 8

    non one else over 5%

    This is the part when @HYUFD tells us how great it is that AFD are doing well and how this shows that Boris must be equivalent to the 2nd coming.
    The AfD vote has jumped +18% in Saxony and +10% in Brandenburg but they have no chance of going in to government. Both states will end up with traffic light coalitions.
    Traffic light coalition is impossible if the FDP don't get 5%,
    and in Sachsen the CDU wil surely be in the state government and have the Ministerpresident.
    Sorry meant mult-colour coalitions. SA will be CDU led, BB SPD led. BB looks the hardxest to get a coalition but probably SPD\CDU\Green
    Ah OK. There's an opportunity to invent a silly name for a general 3+way coalition. I suggest Confetti-Coalition :-)

    Yep I agree with your prognosis, SPD/CDU/Linke would numerically be slightly stronger than SPD/CDU/Green in BB, but the CDU is not going to work with die Linke.

    The elephant in the room is, how long can the "established" parties last before a state allows a coalition with the AfD?
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    Is there still hope?

    No.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
    It's brewed in the UK
    Not sure there is much brewing involved.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468
    CatMan said:
    22%. And what? 30% of 18-24s voted Leave in the EU ref. here too.
  • The_TaxmanThe_Taxman Posts: 2,979

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    I think one has to realise that ship has sailed!

    BJ and Brexiteers have gone too far down the road of extremism to do a EEA-EFTA IMO. I would support that as it would at least be a sensible compromise. But the Brexit supporting media are never going to ware that nor will Farage and co.

    I still think being in the EU is better than being outside it or a 'vassal state' deal. I think Brexit is a bit like HS2, pointless and a waste of money...
  • Streeter said:

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    You’re willing to accept vassalage? What’s the point?
    I don't consider it as vassalage - it's only the rules to the extent required to maintain compliance with the single market - and we'd have forums to be consulted on any new economic rules, just as Norway do. This has been explored many times on here by Richard and Robert.

    It removes us from all the political aspects of the EU, including crime and justice, CAP and CFP and gives us an emergency brake on free movement.

    I suspect - at this stage - it might require ratification in a second referendum, however.
  • CatMan said:

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    I'd be willing to accept it, and I too am a die hard ultra mega super Remainer.
    Interesting. Thanks.
  • eristdooferistdoof Posts: 5,065
    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
    It's brewed in the UK
    Not sure there is much brewing involved.
    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.
  • Streeter said:

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    You’re willing to accept vassalage? What’s the point?
    I don't consider it as vassalage - it's only the rules to the extent required to maintain compliance with the single market - and we'd have forums to be consulted on any new economic rules, just as Norway do. This has been explored many times on here by Richard and Robert.

    It removes us from all the political aspects of the EU, including crime and justice, CAP and CFP and gives us an emergency brake on free movement.

    I suspect - at this stage - it might require ratification in a second referendum, however.
    It's called "Government by Fax", EU makes the rules and then faxes them to Norway
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362
    eristdoof said:

    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
    It's brewed in the UK
    Not sure there is much brewing involved.
    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.
    Having tasted it once I agree
  • Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...
  • eristdoof said:




    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.

    Whatever the pros and cons of Carling is - remember it's a Brisky Yoon campaign to stop the Scottish Groat in its tracks (Tennents being a very similar beverage but brewed in Glasgow)

    So remember Yoons

    #Carling4Tennents4indyref2

    And English comrades have their own hashtag with tennents being pretty much unavailable in England-

    #Whiskey4Whisky4indyref2.

  • eristdoof said:

    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
    It's brewed in the UK
    Not sure there is much brewing involved.
    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.
    I don't see why. That seems a reasonable timeframe to make beer.
  • GallowgateGallowgate Posts: 19,468

    Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...

    Keep it quiet but I’ve even drank Strongbow in the past.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,724

    Streeter said:

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    You’re willing to accept vassalage? What’s the point?
    I don't consider it as vassalage - it's only the rules to the extent required to maintain compliance with the single market - and we'd have forums to be consulted on any new economic rules, just as Norway do. This has been explored many times on here by Richard and Robert.

    It removes us from all the political aspects of the EU, including crime and justice, CAP and CFP and gives us an emergency brake on free movement.

    I suspect - at this stage - it might require ratification in a second referendum, however.
    If that had seriosly pursued after the referendum*, then it could have worked as a compromise. May and the Tories wouldn't have it though, insisted on their redlines and have got us entrenched in A war of attrition, so probably not viable.

    *Pretty much what Norman Lamb proposed after the referendum, and not very far from the Labour position of those like Starmer and co. Too late now.
  • Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...

    This is what happens when you let people who like pineapple on pizzas post on PB.
  • AndyJSAndyJS Posts: 29,395
    CatMan said:
    This is what you'd expect: they're the most likely to be disillusioned. The older voters at least have pensions.
  • Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...

    Keep it quiet but I’ve even drank Strongbow in the past.
    Diabetes in a can.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    eristdoof said:




    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.

    Whatever the pros and cons of Carling is - remember it's a Brisky Yoon campaign to stop the Scottish Groat in its tracks (Tennents being a very similar beverage but brewed in Glasgow)

    So remember Yoons

    #Carling4Tennents4indyref2

    And English comrades have their own hashtag with tennents being pretty much unavailable in England-

    #Whiskey4Whisky4indyref2.

    Tennants may be cooking lager but it is far and away better than Carling.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,724
    AndyJS said:

    CatMan said:
    This is what you'd expect: they're the most likely to be disillusioned. The older voters at least have pensions.
    It is notable that the German, French and other continental right wing populists get a much younger support than in England.
  • Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...

    Fear not - given my Epic Wins today I will soon be starting my birthday champers early.

    (beer before wine and I'll be fine?)
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    eristdoof said:

    malcolmg said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:

    Lol: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/passports-pets-gb-stickers-brexit-advice-issued-britons

    "However, the site shows that not everyone is affected by Brexit. British nationals who live and work in the UK, do not run a business and have no plans to travel abroad are told to simply sit back and relax: “Based on your responses, you do not need to take any action to prepare for the Brexit deadline of 31 October 2019.”"

    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    No doubt some joined up Government policy will combine animal culling with boosting the food supply. Anyone for roast badger or grey squirrel? I read somewhere that grey squirrels taste like chicken! Although I think for an average family; more than one squirrel will be required....
    Foxy said:

    RobD said:

    CatMan said:
    What should it be recommending? If you live and work in the UK, don't have a business, and have no plans to travel there isn't much for you to do.
    Stock up on canned goods. We've already started but I'm not sure if Heinz Ravioli has all the nutritional ingredients required.
    I wouldn't expect absolute shortages of food, more that certain foods become unavailable.
    I'm a bit more concerned about liquids - if I don't get my Carling I might get DTs
    It's brewed in the UK
    Not sure there is much brewing involved.
    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.
    I don't see why. That seems a reasonable timeframe to make beer.
    When it is just chemicals yes.
  • malcolmg said:

    eristdoof said:




    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.

    Whatever the pros and cons of Carling is - remember it's a Brisky Yoon campaign to stop the Scottish Groat in its tracks (Tennents being a very similar beverage but brewed in Glasgow)

    So remember Yoons

    #Carling4Tennents4indyref2

    And English comrades have their own hashtag with tennents being pretty much unavailable in England-

    #Whiskey4Whisky4indyref2.

    Tennants may be cooking lager but it is far and away better than Carling.
    I can barely taste the difference. Unfortunately my campaign might not be too well understood by my English Comrades, not knowing quite how ubiquitous the pint of tennents is in Scotland.
  • Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...

    Fear not - given my Epic Wins today I will soon be starting my birthday champers early.

    (beer before wine and I'll be fine?)
    Even after taking a massive pounding on the Ryder Cup last year I didn't resort to drinking Carling!
  • JonathanJonathan Posts: 21,675
    Got a leaflet from a LD PPC today.
  • Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...

    Fear not - given my Epic Wins today I will soon be starting my birthday champers early.

    (beer before wine and I'll be fine?)
    Even after taking a massive pounding on the Ryder Cup last year I didn't resort to drinking Carling!
    Fine fine, you've got your own hashtag anyway-

    #Whiskey4Whisky4indyref2
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    malcolmg said:

    eristdoof said:




    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.

    Whatever the pros and cons of Carling is - remember it's a Brisky Yoon campaign to stop the Scottish Groat in its tracks (Tennents being a very similar beverage but brewed in Glasgow)

    So remember Yoons

    #Carling4Tennents4indyref2

    And English comrades have their own hashtag with tennents being pretty much unavailable in England-

    #Whiskey4Whisky4indyref2.

    Tennants may be cooking lager but it is far and away better than Carling.
    I can barely taste the difference. Unfortunately my campaign might not be too well understood by my English Comrades, not knowing quite how ubiquitous the pint of tennents is in Scotland.
    I only drink Tennants if it is the only choice in a pub, I would go elsewhere rather than drink Carling personally.
  • malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    eristdoof said:




    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.

    Whatever the pros and cons of Carling is - remember it's a Brisky Yoon campaign to stop the Scottish Groat in its tracks (Tennents being a very similar beverage but brewed in Glasgow)

    So remember Yoons

    #Carling4Tennents4indyref2

    And English comrades have their own hashtag with tennents being pretty much unavailable in England-

    #Whiskey4Whisky4indyref2.

    Tennants may be cooking lager but it is far and away better than Carling.
    I can barely taste the difference. Unfortunately my campaign might not be too well understood by my English Comrades, not knowing quite how ubiquitous the pint of tennents is in Scotland.
    I only drink Tennants if it is the only choice in a pub, I would go elsewhere rather than drink Carling personally.
    Yes well that just about some's up the joyous civic nature of yourself and other Scotnats - Hense the campaign
  • Scott_P said:
    Didnt want to be interviewed when campaigning for leadership of the Tory party.
    Didnt want to debate with rival candidates
    Doesnt want parliamentary scrutiny so suspends parliament
    Doesnt want to deal with Gauke so pretends he doesnt have time

    Yet leavers still assume he is a great communicator who will run a fabulous campaign.

    A coward who hides is not leadership material and that will become apparent in any GE, as it was with May.
  • RobDRobD Posts: 59,936

    Carling drinkers...on PB....whatever next...

    This is what happens when you let people who like pineapple on pizzas post on PB.
    Even I am appalled.
  • FoxyFoxy Posts: 48,724

    Scott_P said:
    Didnt want to be interviewed when campaigning for leadership of the Tory party.
    Didnt want to debate with rival candidates
    Doesnt want parliamentary scrutiny so suspends parliament
    Doesnt want to deal with Gauke so pretends he doesnt have time

    Yet leavers still assume he is a great communicator who will run a fabulous campaign.

    A coward who hides is not leadership material and that will become apparent in any GE, as it was with May.
    When debate reared its ugly head,
    Sir Boris bravely turned and fled,
    Brave, Brave Brave Sir Boris...
  • rcs1000rcs1000 Posts: 57,236

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    No, there's no hope.

    We shall probably end up No Dealing. A US trade deal will turn out to be a chimera. And the imbalances in the UK economy will bite us hard.

    A difficult 2 to 3 years will either be followed by us accepting something that looks just like the Withdrawal Agreement (so, we had a nasty recession all for nothing), or a true socialist government is elected, as the all previous problems were due to lack of government intervention.
  • malcolmgmalcolmg Posts: 43,362

    malcolmg said:

    malcolmg said:

    eristdoof said:




    I remember hearing a PR man from Carling proudly boasting that they have a 7 day turnaround from hops and water to pouring the pint in the pub.

    I think that is something they should be ashamed of not proud of.

    Whatever the pros and cons of Carling is - remember it's a Brisky Yoon campaign to stop the Scottish Groat in its tracks (Tennents being a very similar beverage but brewed in Glasgow)

    So remember Yoons

    #Carling4Tennents4indyref2

    And English comrades have their own hashtag with tennents being pretty much unavailable in England-

    #Whiskey4Whisky4indyref2.

    Tennants may be cooking lager but it is far and away better than Carling.
    I can barely taste the difference. Unfortunately my campaign might not be too well understood by my English Comrades, not knowing quite how ubiquitous the pint of tennents is in Scotland.
    I only drink Tennants if it is the only choice in a pub, I would go elsewhere rather than drink Carling personally.
    Yes well that just about some's up the joyous civic nature of yourself and other Scotnats - Hense the campaign
    Unlike you joyless Carling drinking unionist whingers. Your autocorrect made a right balls of your spelling by the way.
  • rcs1000 said:

    Interesting to see on the previous thread that Beverley (a self-professed die hard Remainer) would accept EEA-EFTA.

    I would also be willing to accept this, now, as a compromise to settle the issue. Revisit if needs be in 10-15 years time to see how it's working.

    Is there still hope?

    No, there's no hope.

    We shall probably end up No Dealing. A US trade deal will turn out to be a chimera. And the imbalances in the UK economy will bite us hard.

    A difficult 2 to 3 years will either be followed by us accepting something that looks just like the Withdrawal Agreement (so, we had a nasty recession all for nothing), or a true socialist government is elected, as the all previous problems were due to lack of government intervention.
    The campaign both of you voted for made EEA-EFTA impossible, I mean have you forgotten all those campaign pledges to leave the Single Market?
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